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00:00 - Welcome to Hardware Unboxed
00:28 - Ad Spot
01:18 - Introducing Threadripper 7000
02:20 - Threadripper 7000 Pro Specs
04:29 - Memory Specifications
05:02 - 7970x + 7980x Specs
06:22 - Test System Specs
07:03 - Cinebench 2024 [Multi Core]
07:53 - Cinebench 2024 [Single-Core]
08:23 - Blender Open Data
08:44 - 7-Zip File Manager [Compression]
09:07 - 7-Zip File Manager [Decompression}
09:25 - Adobe After Effects 2023
09:48 - Adobe Photoshop 2024
10:09 - Adobe Premiere Pro 2023
10:25 - Browser Benchmark
10:40 - Baldur’s Gate 3
11:23 - Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty
12:22 - Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
12:54 - Assassin’s Creed: Mirage
13:22 - Watch Dogs: Legion
13:52 - Hitman 3
14:34 - Operating Temperatures [7970X]
15:00 - Operating Temperatures [7980X]
15:17 - Overclocking [PBO]
15:50 - Our Threadripper experience to date
22:13 - Future Concerns for Threadripper
24:00 - Final Thoughts
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7970X & 7980X Review
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@flintfrommother3gaming
@flintfrommother3gaming 6 месяцев назад
Congrats on that million.
@LEGnewTube
@LEGnewTube 6 месяцев назад
I’m going to be honest, for some reason I thought they were way over 1M subs…
@carldots
@carldots 6 месяцев назад
Same man, they definitely deserve more than they have
@shadowlemon69
@shadowlemon69 6 месяцев назад
​@@LEGnewTubebecause of their high quality content
@50H3i1
@50H3i1 6 месяцев назад
Steve definitely deserves it
@TechTusiast
@TechTusiast 6 месяцев назад
Considering how good thus channel is, I think it deserves more audience and thought it is bigger.
@Mateus01234
@Mateus01234 6 месяцев назад
7:45 crazy to compare the 7980x power consumption vs the 14900k
@lordpyron3934
@lordpyron3934 6 месяцев назад
Around 13% more power for 65.7% performance increase on a HEDT CPU is nuts.
@dsdfasefes1883
@dsdfasefes1883 6 месяцев назад
Just ran CB2024 benchmark on 14700KF (slightly overvolted) - 380W peak power, wattmeter readings. 24% less. Not surprised, honestly, since HW is shilling for AMD.
@ThunderingRoar
@ThunderingRoar 6 месяцев назад
​@@dsdfasefes1883So you believe that Steve, someone who's been reviewing hardware for 20 years, just randomly makes up numbers and puts them in a graph? That graph is total system usage, so different PSU, different motherboard (and all of them have different voltage and boosting profiles), different RAM and different GPU than those in your system.
@tomstech4390
@tomstech4390 6 месяцев назад
@@dsdfasefes1883 Tell me you know nothing about tech without telling me. How about you test his 14900k with his board and settings, oh you can't so what you say is worthless.
@sirab3ee198
@sirab3ee198 6 месяцев назад
​@@dsdfasefes1883who hurt you as a child?😢
@OnlyAnOpinion20
@OnlyAnOpinion20 6 месяцев назад
That 7970x was definitely the star here in my opinion, so close to the previous 64core flagship with half the cores, some might even say it’s good value 👀
@zntei2374
@zntei2374 6 месяцев назад
It's the best choice also because it boosts higher than its bigger brother
@SATISFISE
@SATISFISE 6 месяцев назад
not if you're gonna use it for it's intended use which is obviously multithreading
@Krogoth512
@Krogoth512 6 месяцев назад
64-core version is meant for workloads that are extremely parallel but you don't need or budget cannot afford the I/O connectivity or bandwidth of the WRX50 platform/Threadripper PRO
@chiefjudge8456
@chiefjudge8456 6 месяцев назад
The 7980X is definitely the star, but it is heavily memory bandwidth bottlenecked on TRX50 (only 1 channel per 16 cores).
@TigonIII
@TigonIII 6 месяцев назад
The 7980X runs cooler, whereas the 7970X runs hotter at the same TDP.
@DrearierSpider1
@DrearierSpider1 6 месяцев назад
As a mere PC gamer, Threadripper is way beyond anything need or even can afford. That said I love seeing how insane CPU's can get, and there's something to be said for massively expanded IO connectivity.
@FullNietzsche
@FullNietzsche 6 месяцев назад
For a gamer it is beaten soundly in games by a much cheaper i5.
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 6 месяцев назад
@@FullNietzsche. I think the point was that given their computing use case (“gamer”), and it does so much more than they could use it for (“beyond anything need”), or even within their justifiable budget (“even can afford”), they still enjoy this content (“I love seeing…”). The last part was the point of their comment, and at no point do they express how they felt about the gaming prowess or its usefulness in that field.
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter 6 месяцев назад
You think you won't need it? Try becomming an engineer and also having a home-server. You will have fun running web-services and simulations on such a compact thing. :)
@jepulis6674
@jepulis6674 6 месяцев назад
7800x3d is so cheap and efficient that it rarely makes any sense to look into anything else if you need high-end gaming systems. Can pretty much pick the crappiest vrm motherboard, throw in a 35$ peerless assassin and you are under the cost of 14900K alone before even considering the need of a 200W larger psu.
@TheHighborn
@TheHighborn 6 месяцев назад
and than, there are the dual socket epycs with an extra 3d cache for some spice. Truly insane.
@Sesami7814951
@Sesami7814951 6 месяцев назад
Surprising how the 7980X without PBO enabled use roughly the same amount of power as a 14900K given the amount of cores it has, sure it's not efficient as a gaming CPU but it was never made to be one anyway, but sure is efficient with the amount of cores it packed.
@chiefjudge8456
@chiefjudge8456 6 месяцев назад
Gaming is a GPU activity, but Threadripper is great for gaming/not a relevant difference. High clocks and a lot of native L3 cache, plus they overclock better. Threadripper is also MUCH faster at everything that actually matters (Video editing, compilation, general multi-tasking, VMs, generative AI, LLMs, encoding, game dev, streaming, etc).
@Ander01SE
@Ander01SE 6 месяцев назад
That's how far behind the 7800x3D Intel is. Forced to go all out to compete.
@user-wm3fc1sk1p
@user-wm3fc1sk1p 6 месяцев назад
@@chiefjudge8456 Threadripper doesnt "overclock better" Threadripper still has zen4 cores meaning that you might still be able to hit 5.4 in all cores witha decent liquid cooler. Zen4 cores are good for up to 5.7ghz on air depending on silicon lotery, but this is dealing with 6 core units, 64 cores make a bit more heat and as a ressult all core clocks must come down.
@mitchhezel1988
@mitchhezel1988 6 месяцев назад
Congrats on the million subs Steve, Tim, and the rest of the folks at HUB. A year ago I hardly knew anything about computers. I was overwhelmed with all the information out there while researching my first build, but luckily stumbled upon this gemstone of a channel. One video turned into 2, into a dozen, and soon I was watching videos purely for the entertainment and education. Fast forward to today I am obsessed with all things computer tech and have been loving every moment of it, and it's all thanks to you guys, your wisdom, and the passion you share with the community. Here's to the next million. Thanks for all you guys do ❤. Don't change a thing.
@tobytoxd
@tobytoxd 6 месяцев назад
Very well said! Happened to me, too :D
@Noobsaucer
@Noobsaucer 6 месяцев назад
I really like that you started highlighting the part you're talking about in a table by blurring out the rest. Makes it easier to focus and find the part :)
@OzTalksHW
@OzTalksHW 6 месяцев назад
that's insane that y'all got a motherboard that was never released because of low demand 😭
@NootNoot.
@NootNoot. 6 месяцев назад
This kinda makes sense now, considering MSI has skipped out TRX50 for this gen
@TrueThanny
@TrueThanny 6 месяцев назад
That's what MSI claims. And even if accurate, it's low demand for MSI TR boards. When I've shopped for TR boards in the past, MSI never had attractive options, so it's not surprising they'd have lower demand.
@vh9network
@vh9network 6 месяцев назад
​@@TrueThanny really? the MSI X399 MEG Creation was the best MB to get for X399 and the TRX40 Creator successor just as good. I think MSI sees AMD's HEDT for what it is, a big waste of a investment. AMD showed their true colors with how they handled TR4 and TRX40, only a fool full of cash would pour their money on something that support is on shaky grounds.
@ChrisM541
@ChrisM541 6 месяцев назад
@@vh9network Totally agree. AMD very deliberately killed off their entire non-pro HEDT userbase with that insane TRX40 early EOL - AFTER taking all those customers money. One eye-opening observation I've noticed is in comparing TRX40 vs TRX50 motherboards - TRX50 is SEVERELY cut down in IO and functionality compared to TRX40. The TRX40 Zenith II Extreme, or Gigabyte equivalent, are particular eye-openers. AMD didn't have the guts to mention TRX40 owners in light of TR 7000, and there's obviously going to be zero compensation for them. Hell mend AMD.
@LawrenceTimme
@LawrenceTimme 6 месяцев назад
​@@TrueThannyI had an MSI x399 carbon and it ran well with 1950x at 4.1ghz.
@pdamasco
@pdamasco 6 месяцев назад
Great content again! Very glad you shared your experience with the 5995WX and the MSI board that wasn't put into mass production. It's important information to have. Even as a system administrator, these parts are outside of my needs but they are super impressive for those that need this type of multi-threaded performance.
@anthonytech
@anthonytech 6 месяцев назад
Damn... Steve I just have to say I've watched HUB for YEARS, I can remember the old HUB spinning intro like it was yesterday. I remember watching 7th gen Intel reviews (I think that's about when I found the HUB channel) and man you do a bang up job
@ahreuwu
@ahreuwu 6 месяцев назад
congrats on the million guys, thanks for the quality content!
@Excalabur50
@Excalabur50 6 месяцев назад
Congrats on 1 million subs, very much deserved!
@terencea.2748
@terencea.2748 6 месяцев назад
Congrats on hitting gold! You've been so great for so long at delivering the absolute best graphs on YT! 1M is way too low for the quality of content you guys put out! Well deserved!
@chiefjudge8456
@chiefjudge8456 6 месяцев назад
Congrats! Threadripper 7000 is a MONSTER. Makes regular Ryzen and Intel Core look like cheap toys (and that's with the 7980X and 7970X being memory bandwidth bottlenecked in all of these tests).
@erikbritz8095
@erikbritz8095 6 месяцев назад
Congratz on 1 milli guys been here since 2018
@MarkHyde
@MarkHyde 6 месяцев назад
Grats on a million subs HUB!! :)
@wawaweewa9159
@wawaweewa9159 6 месяцев назад
You should do a engineering based simulation benchmark, theres these cool channels that test projectiles hittting armor and seeing how it reacts, very intensive calcualtion stuff
@cLickphotographySEA
@cLickphotographySEA 6 месяцев назад
Good To know that I wasn't the only one to experience 5000 series problems!
@rcavicchijr
@rcavicchijr 6 месяцев назад
Awesome, I wonder how much faster or more efficient the 96 core will be. It would be nice to see efficiency figures highlighted on more multi-threaded tests rather than just gaming. That cinebench result was pretty intriguing. GN did a good bit of that so it's good to be able to get slightly different information from all my favorite channels.
@earllemongrab7960
@earllemongrab7960 6 месяцев назад
The "Our Threadripper experience to date" part of the video was really insightful and enjoyable to listen to. The fact that "niche" but extremely expensive products have worse support than the mainstream commercial offerings. Makes sense but at the same time it's somewhat shocking to hear.
@Raivo_K
@Raivo_K 6 месяцев назад
I think Buildzoud has said the same about mainstream motherboards. Buying the Godlike, Apex or Xtreme boards could mean worse support compared to Tomahawk, Ace or Hero boards that are sold in much bigger numbers. I have a X570 Master board that was quite expensive in 2019 costing over 400 but since it was also relatively popular (for example Gamers Nexus used it as their board for AM4 reviews) it still receives BIOS updates to this day. the newest BIOS is from September this year. About 4 years after release.
@PainterVierax
@PainterVierax 6 месяцев назад
@@Raivo_K In the meantime, the budget boards used by most system builders aren't that well supported though, only the middle gets support. This is expected on the lower end but completely unacceptable on the higher end, especially on HEDT. I'm confident this lack of support doesn't happen in the professional segment with brands like Dell or Supermicro.
@coot33
@coot33 6 месяцев назад
Ya Threadripper not keeping board support was really problem for first time buyer. It's become such a different platform now from where it initially started. When they went up up as they said during zen2 they really killed the original threadripper project. AMD screwing themselves over again.
@TheOne2Know
@TheOne2Know 6 месяцев назад
Love that pic on the battery at 2:40 Its like an adult holding the threadripper out of reach of the kid..."nah nah nahhhh this is for grown ups little timmy" lol
@vigilant_1934
@vigilant_1934 2 месяца назад
Good eye. I'm watching on my phone and had to zoom in to see that.
@SlenderHime
@SlenderHime 6 месяцев назад
Congratulations for 1 million my dudes
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 6 месяцев назад
Can't wait for them to become affordable in 10 years
@user-ds8rj2vc4v
@user-ds8rj2vc4v 6 месяцев назад
In 10 years they'd be worthless though. These things are drawing as much wattage as an RTX 4090 and they're very very niche in usage - outdated beyond belief in 10 years time.
@rotmistrzjanm8776
@rotmistrzjanm8776 6 месяцев назад
​@@user-ds8rj2vc4vthat's the point bro. Plus are you sure? Even 2$ Xeons from Aliexpress are still somewhat competitive
@madgodzilla12465
@madgodzilla12465 6 месяцев назад
There'll be consumer CPU's that beat these in both single core and multi core in the next 3-5 years. These are commercial for who needs the performance NOW.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 6 месяцев назад
@@madgodzilla12465 yeah and cost 20x as much. I can get an X99 Xeon with 22 cores for 30$ that will not be far behind 5950X
@IndellableHatesHandles
@IndellableHatesHandles 6 месяцев назад
The motherboards will be the barrier to getting these, not the CPUs themselves. Authentic motherboards will be dying in 5-10 years, while unofficial ones from China will likely have the same issues as the older Xeon ones.
@CNC-Time-Lapse
@CNC-Time-Lapse 6 месяцев назад
I'm still rocking my Threadripper 2950X / ASUS MEG X399 CREATION... It's certainly paid for itself over the last 5 years as my primary work machine. It's just astounding to see what you can get these days.
@GeorgePerakis
@GeorgePerakis 5 месяцев назад
Your experience with Threadripper 5000 is definitely interesting to hear about. It definitely goes to highlight why I'm glad AMD seems to have changed its approach now with the 7000 series. The Pro and Enthusiast class Threadrippers can now share a platform, and they start at an actually somewhat reasonable pricepoint, closer to the way Threadripper 1000 and 2000 worked, and I really think those early hits were AMD's best effort, they were simply groundbreaking for their time. The broader the audience, the more the support, fewer problems in the long run. And these chips and boards hold their value pretty darn well in the used market. I like the pricing for the 32 core, 2500 is not bad for a chip like that, but it does have to be stated it's 500 more expensive than its 2990WX ancestor, with fewer PCI-E lanes. Inflation, I suppose, but I do feel like it would be much more appealing at 2 grand rather than 2.5. That 24 core, though, sheesh, with only 24 cores you're still basically competing with the 7950X in multicore performance, and that chip is only 600 dollars, without a bundle or a black friday sale. 1500 dollars for the entry level is rough. Entry level for HEDT threadripper used to be a measly 500 dollars. I really think AMD needs to rethink this. Drop that to a flat 1k and it will be within budget for a lot more people. Dropping over a grand on a CPU is just too hard a pill to swallow for too many people, especially when that was once the price of the original Threadripper flagship. It really goes to show how competition is good for consumers. AMD was much better about its pricing when they weren't dominating the server space and Intel actually had competing products in HEDT. As for the Pro sku pricing, yeah let's not even start with that, that's a whole different ball game, that's "take out a long term loan just to build a computer" level. 10 grand for the 96 core, yikes. Really only aimed at people who need insane performance for a truly insane workflow.
@undeny
@undeny 6 месяцев назад
Holy shit finally 1mil. I am so happy for you guys
@sSteppingStones
@sSteppingStones 6 месяцев назад
1 million subscribers goes hard 🔥🔥🔥
@Jaco_Schutte
@Jaco_Schutte 6 месяцев назад
Never in the history of mankind have so many W's, 9's, 5's, and X's been spoken in so little time by so few reviewers. Heroic effort.
@df3yt
@df3yt 6 месяцев назад
Made my day!
@hyperturbotechnomike
@hyperturbotechnomike 6 месяцев назад
Don't for get all the "Pro", "Premium" and "Plus"
@nathanddrews
@nathanddrews 6 месяцев назад
Add this to my list of "don't need it, would never fully utilize it, but damn I want it"!
@Lukas_Miglioranza
@Lukas_Miglioranza 5 месяцев назад
Wow, what a beauty. How beautiful. How beautiful. I would like the 32 cores. I don't need it at all. I have the 5950x looped at 4.8Gh and I can't get it above 60 degrees even in August. I also cool Ram (64 b-die J Skill), nvme and GPU in semi-parallel. But what a beauty. 32 cores on 4 channels. These are crazy, monstrous numbers, the integrity of every piece of data is checked. With a little hand it is almost certainly possible to make those video games run 2 at a time, and playable. Ram never ends. I have 64 Gb B-die which work very well and are very fresh but it is not so much. What beasts of machines. Thank you.
@rheumakai86
@rheumakai86 6 месяцев назад
Have you monitored the thread utilisation, temps and clock frequency during the times your rendering was several times longer than expected?
@Kurukx
@Kurukx 6 месяцев назад
Welcome back Antec :P
@RafitoOoO
@RafitoOoO 6 месяцев назад
HEDT motherboards look so cool. They literally mean business lol.
@807800
@807800 6 месяцев назад
Hearing about your issue, I guess that's why those Lenovo OEM type of stuff is actually not bad.
@guarand6329
@guarand6329 6 месяцев назад
At 6:30 the page lists windows 11 21h2 but you say its the latest windows, so would be 23h2. just a minor typo Appreciate the hard work in all of the testing and all of that troubleshooting mess with the 5995. This is the kind of thing we need to know when considering these platforms.
@chooka003
@chooka003 6 месяцев назад
@HardwareUnboxed - got any EYPC data to compare these processor to? That would be interesting. Thank you and keep up the great work guys.
@jporter504
@jporter504 6 месяцев назад
Nice review.
@noahdoerfler1865
@noahdoerfler1865 6 месяцев назад
Thats actually crazy how the intel CPU's use more power than the threadripper parts lmao
@Fenrirsleash
@Fenrirsleash 6 месяцев назад
congrats on hitting 1M
@sacredabdulla5698
@sacredabdulla5698 6 месяцев назад
отличный тест. спасибо, лайк.
@cgriggsiv
@cgriggsiv 6 месяцев назад
Awesome CPUs but that board is filthy as hell especially inside that secondary PCI Express There is a little bit of dust on that first one but not as bad as that 2nt
@LOLHoneybadger
@LOLHoneybadger 6 месяцев назад
Hoping we get a 7960X review at some point... perhaps it'll fair better than the others in gaming... unlikely but possible. I'm at least considering it, as I'm finding myself doing a lot of rendering workloads lately & less gaming, not sure how much of an adnvantage the 7960X setup would have over what I have now, since a fair bit of the workload is done on GPU. Of course, getting a Threadripper setup would allow me to slowly add more GPUs & thusly exponentially increase my potential output/workload capability.
@mevencar2495
@mevencar2495 6 месяцев назад
It would be great to test compilation workload which are very common for such workstation CPU. For instance Linus Torvalds at some point had a ThreadRipper CPU.
@walkir2662
@walkir2662 6 месяцев назад
GN did some of that and Level1Linux usually does that with Linux kernels. As does Phoronix.
@PainterVierax
@PainterVierax 6 месяцев назад
@@walkir2662 I would not trust the former, as they're not experienced enough with Linux or even just with the act of compiling software.
@vigilant_1934
@vigilant_1934 2 месяца назад
​@@PainterVieraxWendell on the other hand...I think the first video I saw from him was with the 64 core Threadripper 3000 CPU, showing all the different things you could do with it (virtual machines and what not) and it was very informative. GN Steve goes to him for help with that stuff.
@PainterVierax
@PainterVierax 2 месяца назад
@@vigilant_1934 yep Wendell helped them to set up some TR servers (IIRC he installed them Unraid). But GN team really are Windows guys (like HUB) and even if Wendell is helping them, they clearly aren't experienced enough with this system to be sure the comparison is not compromised. Not even sure if those Windows reviewers are capable of using basic DOS command lines on PowerShell, though Tim showed being able to compile Chromium at least.
@ChadLetourneaurhavoc
@ChadLetourneaurhavoc 6 месяцев назад
I had the same problem with mine and as it turned out. I had to change the actual plug. It was plugged into at the wall. I was not drawing enough power from the wall to keep the CPU. Stable
@CZmiho
@CZmiho 6 месяцев назад
Hi. Can you please test system iddle power consumption? Because 3970X was very bad in this regard - 140W.
@yves1926
@yves1926 6 месяцев назад
It's funny to see that in game performances are really not bad at all
@terzaputra3203
@terzaputra3203 6 месяцев назад
"Yes mom, I need this to do homework"
@ominoussage
@ominoussage 6 месяцев назад
When your mainstream processor consumes more power than the best HEDT 32 and 64 core CPUs but it's nowhere near the performance of those chips, you know something's wrong.
@ismaelsoto9507
@ismaelsoto9507 6 месяцев назад
Bigger Number Better Intel sure went nuts with power just to get a small performance uplift...
@naamadossantossilva4736
@naamadossantossilva4736 6 месяцев назад
Pumping more power was the only way to increase FPS against the 13k lineup.
@dsdfasefes1883
@dsdfasefes1883 6 месяцев назад
In Watch Dogs Legion I have 470W wattmeter peak power consumption with stock settings. 11% less. 14700KF.
@sirab3ee198
@sirab3ee198 6 месяцев назад
In gaming I just limit my 13900K at 90W. Only reason I got an Intel I9 in my new build was because the seller messed up the price and basically gave me a free upgrade to a i9 from a i5 and a £360 discount 😅😂....
@nipa5961
@nipa5961 6 месяцев назад
I wonder when Intel will be able to compete in efficiency again. They are so many generations behind.
6 месяцев назад
Perfect video.
@brianm.595
@brianm.595 6 месяцев назад
I have seen some people complain about the cost of this cpu saying they would want the whole system to cost 5k and my thoughts were that really it would probably be that if you are in the market for this cpu you will probably be in the 10-15k range. The motherboards are about 1000, rams about 1000, the gpus you would want to pair this with are 1000 plus. Then why would you buy this if you didnt also need loads of pcie lanes so add money for all the peripherals and large/fast nvme/ssds. A huge ATX case, a huge power supply. This isn't a product for you probably (advice to 98% of people out there).
@tomstech4390
@tomstech4390 6 месяцев назад
People will pay £2000 for a 4090 so they can play cod at 1440p, but then complain about systems with ground breaking performance that hasn't existed before for less than what server stuff costs. My x99e-WS board isn't technically server grade and it still cost a fortune.
@interceptor001
@interceptor001 6 месяцев назад
People that pay this kind of money for a system don't buy DIY. I suspect this is also the reason why support is very low / non existent. Systems in that price range are mission critical you can't have them out of service for two weaks because you need to rma something. OEMs with 3 year on site busniess support are the obvious choice for them.
@knightsun2920
@knightsun2920 6 месяцев назад
I liked how far back the processors you used like the Intel Core i9-11900K as I have the 300MHz slower boost Intel Core i7-11700K.
@Dr_b_
@Dr_b_ 6 месяцев назад
the platform costs and OC power consumption are eye watering, and all the problems are worrying though not frequently discussed Did you also experience long times 4+ mins to post like derbauer? Whats idle power consumption like? Did you have any issues with the current threadrippers, even minor ones?
@freddymontalvo3860
@freddymontalvo3860 6 месяцев назад
You should do benchmarks on audio programs like avid pro tools
@riven4121
@riven4121 6 месяцев назад
Not me waiting for 7995WX results like I'll ever own one lmao
@chriswright8074
@chriswright8074 6 месяцев назад
I know it's wild
@TheCgOrion
@TheCgOrion 6 месяцев назад
The 7980X seems to be memory bandwidth constrained. I'm really interested in seeing how the Pro series compares. Considering how far from gaming CPUs they are, they are actually very impressive at doing it. There should be no issues with someone occasionally gaming on their workstation.
@fhs7838
@fhs7838 6 месяцев назад
1 RAM channel for 16 cores is pretty much a disaster.
@Petch85
@Petch85 6 месяцев назад
I think it would be interesting to see the 7970X and 7980X vs the RTX 4090 and 7900 XTX (CUDA, Optix, HIP and HIP-RT) in blender (4 probably), including efficiency (total power need for a fixed workload). I know the 7980X can have acces to much more memory and that you easily could make a renderfarm using cheap used pc's with RTX card, but still the best CPU vs the best GPU in the same workload would be fun.😀
@Squagliafrittata
@Squagliafrittata 6 месяцев назад
Don't forget that CPUs maintain industry leadership performance in CGI studios (like ILM or Weta digital). GPU are extremely limited in that kind of computational task. CPU like these can access to terabytes of fast ram, while GPUs have limited pool of GDDR (few gigabytes). That has a huge impact while rendering complex animation, like a building collapsing, an explosion or a fluid simulation. It's totally different from our gaming perception where we think GPU can handle any kind of graphic task. I remembered seeing a special, shot inside DreamWorks headquarters, where they illustrated why they had to use AMD Opteron CPUs to handle perfect global illumination in a full CGI movie like "Shrek" indeed of a batch of simple graphics card. It was almost 20 years ago and still we have GPU that are memory bound😅
@Petch85
@Petch85 6 месяцев назад
@@Squagliafrittata Well I know I am asking if a motorbike or a car is faster at delivering a can of soda, but I feel like your answer is that actually a cargo ship is faster cause it can deliver way more soda. A video on a supercomputer render farm could also be fun and I expect that a modern render farme will contain quite a few GPUs and the artists probably have a RTX 4090 or RTX 6000, cause Optix is just so powerful when making adjustments in previews.
@milo1721
@milo1721 6 месяцев назад
@hardwareunboxed … any UE5 or game dev benchmarks ?? Thank you
@Gamecapturevideo
@Gamecapturevideo 6 месяцев назад
Build livestream for the new editing workstation?? 👀
@bburnham37
@bburnham37 6 месяцев назад
Yay! 🎉 1 Million!
@3800S1
@3800S1 6 месяцев назад
Holy moly, Antec. That's a name I haven't heard in 15 years. I thought they went bust like 10 years ago?
@mirage8753
@mirage8753 6 месяцев назад
its a beast
@GadgetGamesAU
@GadgetGamesAU 6 месяцев назад
Hardware today is already incredibly complex, and HEDT hardware even moreso. I've been on the 2950X ever since release and glad I stuck with it, it's obviously a chip that sold well and therefore has some decent community/support.
@colt0777
@colt0777 6 месяцев назад
i wish you guys could benchmark cities skylines 2 with a high population save file. Thanks for the video btw ^_^
@gctypo2838
@gctypo2838 6 месяцев назад
I don't have a use case for Threadripper, but a monster CPU that's stacked full of threads always seemed like something fun to try. Maybe one day I'll find a real use case for one in a home server or something. Or maybe slap Gentoo on it and compile chromium in four minutes.
@pranavsivakumar3873
@pranavsivakumar3873 6 месяцев назад
so will you be discussing the 5995wx issues in detail on the podcast?
@NootNoot.
@NootNoot. 6 месяцев назад
You're issue with the MSI WS WRX80 is really unfortunate. To hear that there was pretty much no bios updates due to not making it to production and only releasing samples. This is telling since, Gamers Nexus had a mobo roundup for the TRX50, and MSI telling them they're sitting this launch out. It's not something they're interested in. So much for Pro lol, I wonder if big studios/companies buying these products had any issues as well
@sirmonkey1985
@sirmonkey1985 6 месяцев назад
any studio's that might of had them were using pre-builds which are a business tax write off so likely were using supermicro developed boards which are designed for stability first, performance second.
@NootNoot.
@NootNoot. 6 месяцев назад
@@sirmonkey1985 True, forgot there are other mobo vendors that are more suitable/reliable than MSI
@VredesbyrdNoir
@VredesbyrdNoir 6 месяцев назад
Hey Steve, was the test system specs meant to say "Windows 11 23H2"?
@mikeelek9713
@mikeelek9713 6 месяцев назад
I wonder how well DaVinci Resolve would run with the newest generation of TR CPUs. I'll keep an eye on Puget Systems, which specializes in video production testing. Definitely not the best choice for gaming, but for certain productivity tasks - wow!
@Hito343
@Hito343 6 месяцев назад
I can see the guys from Antec got really inspired by the Torrent.
@YtterbiumUK
@YtterbiumUK 6 месяцев назад
My WRX80 board from ASRock has had a few BIOS updates and is rock stable, so I think you were unlucky with the MSI board, I think its based on a server board since it has IPMI etc, the server team know how to make something that is stable
@ProbablyNotAChicken
@ProbablyNotAChicken 5 месяцев назад
Threadripper is the kind of tech that's so damn cool to see, it makes me, a mere gamer, want to learn to do some sort of work that can utilize this beastly tech so i can have an excuse to buy one.
@KGTX
@KGTX 6 месяцев назад
It would have been nice to see loading times on gaming and shader compilation time on UE4 editor.
@arkplaysgame3826
@arkplaysgame3826 6 месяцев назад
congrats on getting to gold
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt 6 месяцев назад
I was wondering how memory bandwidth starved higher core count Ryzen CPUs might be if AMD did increase the core count with Zen 5 or Zen 6 but still left it at only dual channel memory. So comparing TR scores with dual and quad memory would be really interesting. Thanks Steve!
@Yves_Cools
@Yves_Cools 6 месяцев назад
@Hardware Unboxed : Hi Steve and Tim, can you guys please test the new Threadripper CPU in Windows 10/11 to see if it crashes like the older generations (the infamous "event ID 56 - ACPI 15" full system crash) so that people know if this problem still persists or not ? Thank you. referring to your Threadripper earlier generation problems : have you guys experienced the Windows 10/11 system crashes (event ID 56 - ACPI 15) ? Did you perhaps have the exact same brand/model/series M.2 NVMe SSD's in your system ? (can you post detailed system specs of your older gen Threadripper PC's please ?
@valentinvas6454
@valentinvas6454 6 месяцев назад
That 240mm Deepcool AIO is no slouch if it can cool down these beasts even with a PBO overclock where they consume well over 300W.
@ahuri25
@ahuri25 6 месяцев назад
Windows 11 21H2 is quite old, and you said it was the last windows 11 build (which should be 23H2). Is it a mistake in the spreadsheet or you tested it on 21H2 on purpose?
@Hardwareunboxed
@Hardwareunboxed 6 месяцев назад
It was a mistake on screen. I'll fix that moving forward.
@Kjelleros
@Kjelleros 6 месяцев назад
Nice. Now try "gaming mode" enabled! (less cores used i guess?)
@fhs7838
@fhs7838 6 месяцев назад
EXPO for RDIMM modules. Interesting. It's sounds as weird as ECC with XMP memory. You wanna super safe (ECCed) but out of spec (XMP kinds of beyond rated speed) RAM speed.
@KimBoKastekniv47
@KimBoKastekniv47 6 месяцев назад
The platform wonkiness is unfortunate, but somewhat expected given the lack of users to report issues.
@jordanturner7821
@jordanturner7821 6 месяцев назад
I want to see a few VMs running games off of different video cards simultaneously. I also want to see AI model rendering performance. I also want to see VMs running AI models with different video cards. I was thinking of using it as a house server with AI integration and smart house control. running vms to different rooms.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive 6 месяцев назад
Hopefully Balen gets to keep one 😉😉
@QuantumS1ngularity
@QuantumS1ngularity 6 месяцев назад
The reason why very few people now actually buy HEDTs is because thanks to Ryzen regular desktop CPUs have become super capable workhorses. The major difference we now get with the HEDT and Pro CPUs vs regular desktop CPUs is the number of available PCIe lanes. I know SLi and CrossFire are basically dead in the water, but it will be really interesting to see if there would be any good gains if you put 2x 4090s or 2x RX 7900XTXs. Especially now when you can have 2x 7900XTX for less money than a single 4090 it's interesting to know if both running in x16/x16 config with MGPU Enabled can outperform a single 4090.
@mariano3113
@mariano3113 6 месяцев назад
@11:34 Surprised that Cyberpunk was so low. What happened with "Cyberpunk 2077 will now leverage the full capability of higher-core-count CPUs." I expected better scaling for multicore CPUs.
@GL1zdA
@GL1zdA 6 месяцев назад
At these prices and with such spec, I’m curious who are the buyers? System integrators? Because I can’t imagine building a workstation and not having any fast support option.
@Hugh_I
@Hugh_I 6 месяцев назад
The PRO line-up always used to come out first OEM only and I would assume a huge chunk of actual pro users/companies that buy a lot of them would buy them from an OEM with support contracts and all.
@tahustvedt
@tahustvedt 6 месяцев назад
Would be fun to see MSFS.
@johngamble5270
@johngamble5270 6 месяцев назад
Someday Adobe will figure out threading. Someday.
@MK-xc9to
@MK-xc9to 6 месяцев назад
Its a good Plattform for virtual Machines of multible Users not so much as a single User Workstation , if you use watercoled GPUs that use only 1 slot you can put 8 GPUs in there , 8 Lanes of PCIe 5 is more than enough and thats only 64 Lanes , with Pro you get 128 Lanes .... , if you use the 96 Core you could have 8 virtual Workplaces with 8 Cores and one dedicated GPU each = with more than only one User Threadripper gets interresting . Most of the common Software will not utilise 64 or 96 Cores . There are still Users for Threadripper out there , those who normally would use the higher clocked Server Variants and now will use the OC able Threadripper instead .
@SterlingSanders
@SterlingSanders 4 месяца назад
I waited 9 months for the MSI WS WRX to use with my 5975wx, finally gave up after they told me on twitter the motherboard was never coming out. Been using the AsRock WRX80 Creator ever since. Also having crashing problems, haven't had time to resinstall windows, that's next I think.
@LBXZero
@LBXZero 6 месяцев назад
If there is one suggestion I would give AMD, it is this. AMD, rebalance the naming scheme so the x900 segment is not crowded. Maybe reserve all of x900 to Threadripper. Maybe go hexadecimal and create an xA00 and xB00 tier.
@hightechsystem_
@hightechsystem_ 3 месяца назад
How have you found the reliability of the latest 7000 generation of Threadripper?
@elirantuil5003
@elirantuil5003 6 месяцев назад
The Spiderman remastered results show incredible scaling.
@chiefjudge8456
@chiefjudge8456 6 месяцев назад
Threadripper 7000 is a MONSTER. Makes regular Ryzen and Intel Core look like cheap toys (and that's even with the 7980X being heavily memory bandwidth bottlenecked on TRX50 with 1 channel per 16 cores).
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 6 месяцев назад
Just got a 5900X for $289.99. 12 cores 24 threads is still good for a workstation and some gaming if still on AM4 platform.
@thelaughingmanofficial
@thelaughingmanofficial 6 месяцев назад
Of course your 5900X is going to be better in gaming, it's a general purpose CPU, These Threadrippers are Workstation CPU's they're not going to do well in gaming. It's going to be better than your 5900X in Workstation tasks.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 6 месяцев назад
That's really good bang for the buck at that price. I had the 5950X until about two months ago, and it ripped through software compilation like there was no tomorrow. The thing just was that that pesky little 7950X3D kept telling me it was looking for an owner who could put it through it's paces.... and eventually I caved... You should look into undervolting. My 5950X with a -30mV and a +200MHZ BPO consistently boosted to 5.05GHz, with an average of 4.8GHz during long compile jobs. And that was on air cooling.
@joshd1472
@joshd1472 6 месяцев назад
love my new bonus 5800x3d what a smart buy
@Anonymous______________
@Anonymous______________ 6 месяцев назад
I do not understand how AMD can even classify these CPUs as HEDT based solely on their price. These are workstation class CPUs. Only a few years ago Intel's HEDTs cost slightly over 1,000+ dollars and anything more expensive where generally Xeons, suited for high-end workstations and not desktop/gaming rigs.
@RenatsMC1
@RenatsMC1 6 месяцев назад
Thumbnail got me here the size of that cpu I could fry eggs on it
@yuralmspw4911
@yuralmspw4911 6 месяцев назад
please test in games 7970 or even better 7960 if you have it with half cores disabled (default and OC), I suspect gaming perf will improve significantly
@thelaughingmanofficial
@thelaughingmanofficial 6 месяцев назад
Gaming is not the purpose of these Threadripper CPU's.
@PhenomGr
@PhenomGr 5 месяцев назад
It's impressive to see the 7950x (16/32) battling head to head with the 3970x (32/64).
@vh9network
@vh9network 6 месяцев назад
Its interesting to know that the NZXT Kraken AIO is not compatible with Threadripper. Steve you should have busted out a Noctua U14S-TR4-SP3 and showed how all those cores can be cooled by just air.
@j.d.4697
@j.d.4697 2 месяца назад
Great for playing 124 instances of Tetris at the same time!
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