Originally, Dutch was supposed to beat the Predator in their hand to hand fight, but it was Arnold himself who thought that would be ridiculous. He said "I can't beat him. He's a monster. I'm just a man." So the story was changed with the Predator dominating the fight and Dutch having to resort to his booby trap to defeat him. I respect that Arnold was willing to show his character get his ass kicked in a fair for the sake of a better story. Some action stars would have too much ego to allow that, let alone suggest, that.
That's what pissed me off about most of Steven Seagal's films. No matter how many enemies attack him, he just defeats them all with ease while they usually never even land a single hit on him. There's absolutely no feeling of jeopardy and you never feel like his character is in any real danger at all. Like you said, props to Arnie for not being like that.
I think what makes movies like this scary and impactful is when completely capable characters are still no match for the threat. They didn't lose because they made mistakes. They lost because they were completely overmatched.
@@Unicron3 what I enjoyed also about this movie, is that it’s not the stereotypical “government lying” about knowing nothing of the Predator. Dillon was after the weapon cache and those in the chopper and didn’t know about the Predator. Hopper (the first set of bodies found), were probably sent by Dillon to get the cache but didn’t receive any news from them which is why he brought in Dutch. 😁 This is one of my favorite Arnie movies.
Thats the problem with alot of horror movies now days. The characters dies simply coz they are written as incompetent morons. They die because they have to day. Not because the monster/villain completely out matches them
And Dutch didn't win because he was a physical match for the Predator, he won because he used his wit, was extremely lucky, and was underestimated to a degree by his enemy.
Back in 87 we had no idea what the Predator looked like until it revealed itself. There was no backstory, no canon, no "Yautja", just pure mystery. That intrigue was a major part of what made the film such a success. It was a visceral merciless confrontation with the paranormal that was most likely going to end with another successful hunt for the Predator, if not for Dutch's strength perseverance and cunning. His thousand yard stare at the end in the choppa captures the shock of what he went through as a survivor and what we witnessed as the observer.
Also, why Predator 2 is an excellent sequel. We, the audience, know (pretty much) what the police are dealing with. The mystique is gone, and you've just got a cop drama/action movie. With a little bit of X-Files and a trophy hunting murder alien. ...and it is still a great movie nonetheless.
@@richardrobbins387 I love Predator 2 as well. The fight scenes are awesome especially the final battle in the ship. The designs, the trophy wall and the appearance of the other Predators, brilliant. Kevin Peter Hall was perfect as the Predator in both films. It's all garbage after that imo.
@@xxchaos315xx6 Hah yeah. It was a last minute thing eh. Jean-Claude was miserable in his bug suit and nothing was working out in screen tests. Then Stan Winston's genius saved the day and created a sci-fi icon. Funny how things work out.
The Predator was on safari. He was like the big game hunters of old. The heads of lions, rhinos, etc. on their walls were proof of their courage. In the end, the Predator decided he had found a worthy foe, so he dropped his armor to fight mano a mano. Arnold wounded him mortally, so he decided to blow him up. That's what he was laughing about.
More like on proving grounds. Humans are a worthy prey to hunt because sometimes we just win and become the Predator, and the predator species has a wierd respect/honor for such things. I know the movies go into this some but there are some fantastic books that have been wriiten. Especially the books Steve perry wrote. Start with Aliens vs. Predator: Prey. He also did a bunch of great Alien books as well. I'd start with Aliens: Earth Hive, it's a trilogy of books that is freaking awesome.
Even though the Pred considered Dutch worthy of fighting him unarmed, it was never a fair fight. It knew that no human is a physical match for it. Dutch had demonstrated throughout the movie that he's as tough as our kind gets, but that alien manhandled him like a child.
Arnold swimming through the cold water lowered his body temperature, and then the cool mud covered him to remain cold and unseen, containing any remaining heat.
True but that explanation would create a big problem seeing as the second time he "mudded" himself up for the grand finale, he did so after essentially doing a full workout at the gym, in the hot tropical jungle he had to be hot as hell from setting up all the booby traps, building his weapons, and climbing up a big tree, you could literally see his face sweating through the mud when the predator shows up and the camera zooms in. 🤔
The Predator is just enjoying some recreational hunting. Hunting is their culture. They are not really an evil race, just very dedicated to their craft. It sees in infrared (the multi-color images) using it's helmet technology. That's why it couldn't see Arnold covered in cold wet mud.
I don't think it their hunting could be called "recreational." There's a powerful ritual component to it, and a strong implication of status gained from successful hunts.
I'm glad someone else finally noticed that. I think about who must have translated this for the close caption every time I see a reaction to this move and forget to mention it.
yeah, streamers often have incorrect subtitle files. I once caught a version of Big Trouble In Little China where the line "the bhodisattva of the underworld" was rendered as "the boldest satyr of the underworld" 🤦
The Predator did die in the end. He got defeated so he committed suicide so his machinery and body wouldn't get recovered by humans and get experimented on.
The predators are a alien race called the Yautja. Their whole military and social hierarchy is based on honour and martial prowess. They prove their skills, go through rites of passages, and rise in rank/status by hunting and killing the most dangerous life forms in the galaxy. Which is why on earth the Predator stalked a team of armed special forces commandos. It will kill anyone armed but usually tries to go for the more dangerous humans/creatures.
Fun act : the actor who played the Predator also made an Cameo appearance in one episode of STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION as an alien ambassador an also played as Harry in the 1987 comedy adventure movie HARRY AND THE HENDERSON'S
Well Amelia, did you know that Jesse The Body Venture, who played Blain in the movie with the big minigun, was a well known wrestler in the original WWF, and also a U.S. Navy Seal!! He also worked with Arnold Schwarzenegger in a movie called The Running Man!!!
He had a TV series 'Conspiracy Theory' (early 2010s or so) that was pretty interesting. A lot of it was rehash, but it had a couple really intriguing moments as well.
No one ever understands the razor. When the humidity is so high that your sweat cannot evaporate, but only covers your skin like a blanket, there's no cooling down. It's like being in a pool of hot water. Squeegeeing the water off and letting you pores restart the process of evaporative cooling offers some relief. You can also sop up the excess sweat with a dry paper towel, but who can carry rolls of paper towels with them on a mission? Está claro?
In that case, I'd carry a tongue scraper, not a Bic disposable shaving razor. And I do know what "hot and humid in a jungle" feels like. I do what I can with my OD Green face towel.
For me, the biggest WTF moment is just after the first predator kill... These guys are top notch jungle troopers and master trackers, and when Dutch asks "Did you find Hawkins?", the reply of "I... I can't tell..." always gets me.
@@danielmorency2242 Pancho meant that the body was so disfigured he couldn’t tell if was Hawkins or someone or something else. Also, no amount of training will prepare you for seeing a human body completely skinned.
This just buries any of the spinoffs or sequels. It has real intrigue with Dillon's betrayal and not realizing what really happened to the green berets that were originally supposed to take out the guerrillas. Then it takes a wild turn as the Predator uses this chaos as a hunting opportunity.
@@kampfer3146 Yeah, a bunch of Guntubers tested it. And it's very effective. Who knew that mud was an insulator? ... I mean, it was common sense for thousands of years.
@@adibemaxwell6111 Even animals in the Sahara roll in mud for cooling and protection from the sun. The method of cooling through evaporation is known even to wild animals, long before people existed.
The alphabet you were referring to is the "Phonetic Alphabet." During my 20 years of service in the U.S. Air Force, I had to know it by heart. A = Alpha B = Bravo C = Charlie D = Delta E = Echo F = Foxtrot G = Golf H = Hotel I = India J = Juliet K = Kilo L = Lima M = Mike N = November O = Oscar P = Papa Q = Quebec R = Romeo S = Sierra T = Tango U = Uniform V = Victor W = Whiskey X = X-ray Y = Yankee Z = Zulu
Another Golf Romeo Amelia. That’s Great Reaction. As a ex military guy I still talk like this . Civilians don’t find it amusing. 😊 Oh I loved your acting in the beginning, although you didn’t really kick any butt this time. 😊👏👏🥰
I thought you did a great job taking the movie as it was and appreciating the tactical situation particularly. Unusual for a reactor to really think about the motives and asymmetry of the battle like that. I enjoyed that.
One of my favorite movies; I was 16 when Predator came out. One of the actors in this movie, Richard Chaves, who played Poncho, played a main character in a TV series a few years later, The War of the Worlds. It is set 35 years after the events of the classic 1953 film of the same name, which is based upon the classic story by H.G. Wells. The 1953 film is my favorite adaptation of the book. For 1953, the effects are still amazing and I love the look of the Martian war machines. And I will never forget the sound they make.
“We a rescue team. Not assassins.” Then immediately kill pretty much everyone in the camp. 😂😂 Such a classic! You can stop after 2. That one is criminally underrated.
Stan Winston is a very famous grimm and special effects artist, here is not a complete list of films he has worked on: Terminator (1984), Aliens (1986), Predator (1987), Pumpkinhead (1988), Predator 2 (1990), Terminator 2 (1991), Jurassic Park (1993), Artificial Intelligence (2001), Pearl Harbor (2001), Time Machine (2002), Turn Not there (2003), Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines (2003), Konstantin: Lord of Darkness (2005), Transformers (2007), The Incredible Hulk (2008), Iron Man (2008), Terminator Salvation (2009), Avatar (2009) as well as Jurassic World (2015) but he I didn't work on this film because I died earlier, which is a pity. And Terminator Genesis (2015), but his students and Stan Winston's colleagues have already worked on this film.
We are introduced to Arnold's team as a bunch of elite bad asses. They eliminated probably 50 rebel shoulders with barely a scratch. Then they get tracked by an alien with superior weapons, tactics, technology and strength. They get picked off one by one until it's just Dutch left. In most of Arnold's action movies, his character and the big bad enemy has a 1v1 fight fight and Arnold wins. In this movie we see how outclasses Arnold's character is compared to the Predator, further showing how terrifying the alien is. He only wins through luck and guile, not brains. This is a fun FUN action movie. The only Arnold action movie that is just dumber and more violent is Commando. That's the movie that you need to just turn off your brain and enjoy the senseless violence and explosions.
The actor that played Billy, the Native American, had a horribly violent temper. The rest of the actors were assigned security personnel for their own safety from him.
Not temper so much as he was a juicer and suffered from roid rage. I went to HS with a guy like that(a football player). He could be laughing with you one minute and trying to break your neck the next. And I mean that literally. I once made a joke that set him off and as soon as I turned my back her grabbed me in sleeper hold from behind and we had a bit of a tussle.,.
The explosions and gunfire etc are so well done in this movie, really adds to the excitement, personally I enjoy all the Predator movies, not perfect but really entertaining, thanks
the point of camo on the face isnt what you think it is, the stripes break up the shape of the face so when you glance you dont see a human silhouette, but rather see nothing, of course if someone is looking directly at you, youre cooked, then thats why ghillie suits are a thing but that shit is heavy and hot to wear
The director of Predator also directed Die Hard and Die Hard with a Vengeance as well as many other action films before he passed away not too long ago.
McTiernan is still alive, homie. He's been in Director Jail for two decades now, and spent time in ACTUAL jail a little over a decade ago after allegedly lying to the FBI in a high-profile wiretapping case...but he *is* still alive.
The alien's mission was to go to Earth and hunt predatory prey. in this case, the alphas (the army group). At the end when it knew it had lost the battle against Dutch, he used his self-destruct mechanism on his arm...that way it leaves no trace that it was there.
Mud blocking Dutch's infrared heat signature scene: It has been tested and proven that this actually works. They did it for the movie and others have recreated it on RU-vid.
I dont know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but the Predator was played by Kevin Peter Hall. He also played Harry in Harry And The Henderson's. A comedy about a family that befriends bigfoot while camping and bring him back to the suburbs. Sadly, Kevin Peter Hall passed away during surgery after a bad car accident in Los Angeles. He was accidentally given contaminated blood. RIP Kevin Peter Hall PS ... Ive always wondered if Mac and Dillon's guns are still out there. I mean, Dillon had a badass HK MP5 (affectionately nicknamed The Room Broom) in the hand that got blown off. Ive always been a Thompson man myself, but thats some full auto, 9mm, German made, goodness out there in the jungle. Oh well, our tax dollars at work I guess.
The symbol on the whisky flask is a Special Forces insignia (Green Berets). All these guys are veterans of Vietnam, Cambodia, Nicaragua, etc. The best of the best. Thats why they are worthy targets for the predator.
Now, watch Arnold Schwarzenegger again in Commando, Eraser, Kindergarten Cop, Total Recall, The Running Man & True Lies. More awesome movies for you Amelia.
According to some of the books, the Predator and Aliens came from the same planet, and the Predators were on top. The Predators normally put Alien-eggs on planets not populated with life with high intelligence, and come back later and hunt the Aliens when they have grown out of their eggs. Mostly they dont use the shouldergun, because that would be too easy, so they mostly just use their spear and knives. But it is allowed.
i was probably 10 years old when i first watched this and understood what infared vision is. I can get into reaction videos and they are fun at times but when they act like infants it really throws it off. She literally watches the alien click some buttons on its arm, setting off a sort of (obvious) count down alarm....BIG EXPLOSION WHILE LAUGHING...."so did the predator blow itself up?" No honey, he ran for president shortly after and Dillon became his VP..
It should be noted Amelia that there are female variants of the Yautja (the predator). Although they've only been brought to light in comic books and in the game Predator: Hunting Grounds, thus far there have been no TV shows or films showing them in action. Apparently their clans follow the same rules as their male counterparts. Also if I had to choose between being made into a trophy (whether it's skinned alive and strung upside down or having my skull ripped out through my spinal column) or getting hived thus becoming breeding host for a parasitic xenomorph, I'd happily choose the former over the latter option.
In the beginning we're supposed to see how Dutch's team, and in particular Dutch, is the best ... aka a prize trophy for a "hunter" or predator. That laugh at the end is Billy's being mimicked. And yes it blew itself up, as it "refused" to be a trophy for humans.
The importance of Poncho telling Billy the dumb Coochie jokes is not just silly comedy (although, I agree creating a character to do stuff like that is great for a movie) but it also gives us his laugh finally, after the second joke and that recorded laugh is what the Predator uses at the end as the evil laugh, once he sets the self destruct. Yeah, Arnold had big biceps, before he was an actor he was a body builder and won the highest award I believe, Mr Universe several times. I love Sonny Landham, Billy, in this but while he appears the calm cool Native American in the film, the actor had a temper and the Insurance company required a bodyguard be set to protect others from him. Just information, not judgement. Great film.
31:52 That is a targeting laser; or, rather, it's this thing's nearest _equivalent._ So putting his _head_ where those lights are is about the _biggest_ mistake Mac could've made.
22:38 No, nothing like that. The predator is just on an exciting hunting trip, hunting for the most dangerous game available: trained soldiers armed to the teeth.
They probably didn't want to go through that valley because if there were more rebels they could ambush the team easily and fire down on them from higher ground.
The director was against showing the spaceship at the start. He wanted the reveal that it was an alien hunting them to be a surprise, but the studio overruled him. This movie contains two future governors. Arnold became governor of California, and Jesse Ventura (Blain) became governor of Minnesota. Shane Black (Hawkins, the guy with the jokes) was also one of the writers for the Lethal Weapon movies. In 2018, he wrote and directed The Predator, the third sequel to this movie. It was a troubled production and they re-shot the entire third act. It didn't help and the movie was a flop. The black chopper pilot at the end is Kevin Peter Hall, who was also the actor inside the Predator costume. Hall played a number of large suit roles, including Bigfoot in Harry and the Hendersons, and the the titular creature in Monster in the Closet. He appeared out of costume, alongside Courtney Cox in the one-season show Misfits of Science. Unfortunately, he contracted HIV from a tainted blood transfusion during surgery for injuries he received in a car accident, and passed away in 1991, just a few days short of his 36th birthday. :( A crossover between the Alien and Predator universes first happened in the comics. Then Predator 2 teased it. Next came video games. Fans wanted a crossover movie for years, finally getting one in 2004. It was a huge disappointment. The sequel didn't fare much better.
Here's a bit of trivia for you... Stan Winston who created the Predator creature suit for Kevin, he wanted them to be a race of really tall like Rastafarian Warrior's called the Yautja that live for the hunt and only hunt the most deadliest of prey such as Human's Aliens etc, cause that's how they command the most respect from their tribes back on their home world, whichever Yautja has the most skulls as trophies commands the most respect... now because of the Yautja's size and height they got a great actor called Kevin Peter Hall to play the Predator, you may of also seen Kevin play Harry the Bigfoot in the movie Harry and the Hendersons staring John Lithgow... well Kevin Peter Hall in bare feet without the suit on he was 7 foot 2, but with the Predator suit on and wearing the feet that added a couple of inches plus the Predator head itself being bigger and higher that Kevin was inside, it made Kevin Peter Hall around 7'5 to 7'6, and Arnold is only 6'2 and the scene where Kevin as the Predator grabs Arnold and slams him up against that rock by his throat to where you then see Arnold's feet dangling in the air as the Predator holds him there before dropping him just shows the utter size of Kevin when he played the Predator. Another piece of trivia for you is you know at the end when the Predator has blown itself up with it's self destruct weapon and you then see the choppa pilots and you see the black choppa pilot say... WHAT DA FUU...???... well that black choppa pilot is actually Kevin Peter Hall who also played the Predator, John McTiernan the Director of the movie Predator wanted Kevin to have a cameo appearance in the movie as a Human also as a thank you and a sign of respect for playing the Predator creature and for spending hours and hours in makeup and in the suit and not complaining once while in the suit for sweating and being able to barely breath and stuff while inside the Predator suit, John McTiernan the director said in an interview that Kevin was an absolute star and legend for never complaining once while in the Predator suit because it was so hot and sweaty in the jungle while shooting the movie on location. 😎👍
The late Kevin Peter Hall was the best Predator it didn't work with the actors in the the newer films and Jesse The Body Ventura (Blain) said in an interview on Stone Cold Steve Austin's podcast he went back to Vietnam because of the smells and the environment and woke up in the middle of the night and said area is secure and rolled back over back to sleep his girlfriend told him the next morning he did not remember doing it RIP Kevin Peter Hall and Sonny Langham and Carl Weathers and Stan Winston ❤
Kind of a twisting turning comment coming, bear with me. If you consider watching and reacting to Alien vs Predator this is where you would see it. No additional movies needed. If the movie PREY has piqued your interest then here’s my two cents. I think PREY is absolutely phenomenal!! I appreciate and recognized that they made a connection to Predator 2. BUT it’s not totally necessary to see it. P2 does not include Arnold S and only a single scene connects it to PREY. There are other reactors who have seen PREY without seeing P2.
I guess Jim Hoppah didn’t get to da choppah, if he did this movie would have been a floppah. Watch the behind the scenes/making videos, sounds like it was … unpleasant at times. Him shaving, don’t know about others, but when it’s 95° and 100% humidity, any facial hair drives me nuts, even stubble, sweat just clings to it. If you want Arnold, minus the alien, plus more action, watch Commando. It’s hilariously horribly good, it oozes 80’s at every turn.
Ah - the phonetic alphabet. I kind of miss using that from the military. Thankfully the movie Predator 2 answers a few of the questions people had from Predator - but it also leaves you with so many more questions.
The Predator either sees in the infra-red, or it has infra-red capability built into its... helmet. Whenever you see the screen all in blue with red/yellow/white highlights you are seeing its POV. At the end, it can't see Dutch because (in the film universe; it wouldn't work in real life for more than 30 seconds or so) he's covered in cold wet mud. Then, after commencing his counter-attack, Dutch falls in the river again and all the mud gets washed off and now the Predator's infra-red can see him again. First time I saw this movie, when the predator leaps through the jungle with its cloaking device on, it took my breath away. Only cinema can do that.
26;29 was a star shell trip flair. Basically a flair with a little parachute to light up an area where an enemy hit a tripwire. The Predator didn't hit tripwires because (in the novel) his augmented vision could see the metal.
Well the predator rite of passage as a warrior, is to hunt the most dangerous prey. More dangerous, more honor. Top on their list is humans , and Aliens. Which u will see in later movies if you go down that route .
Trivia: The helicopter pilot at the end that says "What the F****" is Kevin Peter Hall, the actor who played the Predator. Originally Jean Claude Van Damme played the predator but the original costume ( which looked more like giant bug) was very awkward and cumbersome. That along with JCVD not getting along with the director made him quit. They revamped the look of the predator to what we see and got Kevin Peter Hall, who if you couldn't tell, was much taller than Arnold. Hall played the Predator one in the 1990 sequel but died the following year from AIDS related pneumonia. RIP
My own suggestions: next watch Predator 2, then Prey. Then you can move on to something else. Though Predators, the third one in the series, isn't bad. Prey, though, is amazing. Almost as good as this one. IMHO.
28:27 "Is there significance behind him running the- running the razor over his face?" Significance _behind_ it? You mean like some kind of _artistic_ significance? I don't think so. I can just tell you that, in the Armed Forces, we operate under circumstances in which we can expect to have to put on any one of a number of breathing apparatuses that has to be able to get an airtight seal against the skin in order to work. It can't do that if we have a stubble, so in the Armed Forces, we learn to shave on a daily basis so that doesn't happen. And if you want to shave, sweat is good lubrication.
Around 1990, my G.F. & I took a trip to Puerto Vallarta, Mx. & rented a Jeep to drive down to where "Predator" (1987) was shot. At that time, you drove south to Mismaloya Beach & turned left into the jungle on a dirt road. About a 15 min. drive into the jungle you came to "El Eden" a restaurant on a river next to a waterfall. This was the location for the fire fight with the guerillas. The buildings in the movie are the open fire kitchen & dining areas. El Eden had NO electricity so they only served from late morning to afternoon. We parked & changed into our swimsuits in the jungle with all of the jungle sounds & memories of the movie. The waterfall is not the one seen in the movie. It's probably only 20' high. You can sit in the current on top & it will shoot you off of the waterfall into the pool below. All of the food was cooked over open wood fires & was excellent. I see on their website that they've turned it into a Predator tourist attraction. When we went there it was just like the Predator crew found it, no signs etc.
