@@spikeinmadness5005Carl will always be known for Apollo. When Dillon and Dutch lock arms. Whew!! Between Rocky and Predator. Carl had this hate to love charisma
Also RIP to Sonny Landham who played Billy Kevin Peter Hall who played the predator and RG Armstrong who played the general at the beginning of the movie and was in the helicopter at the end
My favorite thing about this film was how they established the skill and history of Dutch's team. They wore Vietnam era webbing and flak jackets, they mentioned Cambodia, we saw their skillset, their familiarity with the Special Forces units lost in the jungle, all to establish that they were an exceptionally lethal and well organized team without any long exposition. Then, immediately, they established how outclassed they were by the Predator. Masterfully done.
Exactly. The whole point of the absolutely overkill action scenes in beginning is to make us realize that they can do that, and they're still more or less helpless against the Predator.
@@kennyteeology3526 Jesse was an old school UDT but probably without real combat experience, everyone sleeps on Richard Chavez, but he is a real Vietnam vet 196th Infantry Brigade, Have a nice day.
They should totally do some research after watching it and include the ode. So many cool trivia about this movie. The original predator costume with Jean-Claude Van Damme looked totally different and comical
The thing I really loved about this movie is how Arnold truly struggled with the predator, and in the end he just got lucky. Most movies with Arnold in this time period made him an unstoppable force with no competition. It was a pleasant surprise.
I read that the original script called for Arnold straight up wrecking the Predator by using his upper body strength… Arnold himself vetoed that stating it would be highly unrealistic.., and it was his idea for him to hunt the Predator and set the traps…
Most savage line in the film: "I don't care who you are back in the world. You give away our position one mo' time, an I'll bleed you... real quiet like... leave you here. Got that?"
@@Mr.Ekshin can't forget the first line of the quote! "Yer ghostin' us, muthaf***a!" Also he doesn't say "Real quiet like...", he just says "Real quiet..."
When the Predator uses recordings of their talking to trap them I liken it to a hunter using a duck call. He doesn't even know what he is saying, he is just making "human sounds" instead of "duck sounds".
Yeah. The novels refer to it simply as "the animal loop". Just a digital hunting call that can record whatever you're hunting to try to lure it, or to cause confusion when hunting intelligent prey.
The replicated sounds are related to certain events. "Over here." Call someone over "Turn around" Look over there. "Anytime" Death (the scorpion) "What the hell are you." You lose.
So for clarification on Arnold’s character (Dutch) in the scene where he gets shot in the arm. The Predator didn’t actually hit Dutch’s arm, he instead shot Dutch’s gun, causing it to explode. That’s why Dutch’s arm got a bit bloodied, but not too heavily damaged. It’s a subtle miss, but it does put on that illusion that Dutch’s arm is so big that it can tank a shot from the Predator’s gun. lol
@@Gunnar001 If it was calibrated as such. The Plasmacaster can be adjusted for shot strength. It's possible for the lower end to cause burns, but perhaps not outright limb loss.
6:14 Billy mentioning "six men wearing U.S. issue army boots" reminds me of one of the "brilliant" ideas tried in Vietnam. The U.S, military jungle boot (the iconic 'Nam boot) had a unique tread pattern which worked extremely well for trekking through the mud in the jungle, but it left a distinctive, easily recognized track which could give away the movement of American troops. Someone came up with the idea of shaping the sole of the boot like the sole of a human foot so the tracks it left would look like it was made by some barefooted Vietnamese peasants. However, the average G.I. shoe size was about 2 or 3 sizes larger than the average Vietnamese shoe size, so when the boot stepped into soft soil, it left a perfect imprint of a human foot with a perfect larger outline of a combat boot around it. Also, having a smaller 3 dimensional foot sticking out of the bottom of a larger boot made these boots very unstable to walk in. The human footprint boot idea was abandoned, but it was replaced (at least in one area) by a simpler, more effective idea. Bunches of average sized U.S. jungle boots were dropped into the area, and people there were happy to have durable, very protective boots to wear when walking through the jungle regardless of whether they were a couple of size too large, and so soon everybody and his cousin was wearing U.S. jungle boots and leaving tracks that were basically indistinguishable from tracks made by U.S. troop.
The youngsters nowadays are cracking up when the jungle theme starts playing. It's just funny to them. They just don't understand that that's exactly how atmosphere was achieved in movies... It's sad.
The late great Stan Winston designed the Predator costume among other classic creatures. The Terminator series, the first three Jurassic Park films, Aliens, The Thing, the first two Predator films, Inspector Gadget, Iron Man, and Edward Scissorhands.
@@maplenutsreact if both of y'all love birds thought the Wilderness Predator in this Film who only has Wrist Blade, Medical Kit & Shoulder Mounted Cannon (Extremely/Very Advanced Gun) was a completely total badass then wait till y'all get a load of the Concrete Jungle/Urban Jungle/City Predator in Predator II 1990 who has so much more Options at their disposal (Very Batmanish in a big/huge way)!
I knew she reminded me of someone and I couldn't for the life of me figure out who, or why. It was one of those little annoyances in the back of my mind, like a tiny itch. Thanks for scratching it.
I love how we see how good these guys are that they take out a camp with no issues what so ever, just to hammer down how advanced the Predator actually is with how easily it disposes of everyone. This movie's cinematography is so good, I really feel like no shot is wasted.
"You're hit, man. You're bleedin'." "I ain't got time to bleed." "Oh... okay." Fun Fact: Theatrical film debut of Jesse Ventura and Shane Black. Don't Drink It Fact: The Predator's (Kevin Peter Hall) blood - a goopy substance with the color of Mountain Dew - was made on-set using a mixture of the liquid from inside glow sticks and KY Jelly. Practical Joke Fact: Jesse Ventura was delighted to find out from the wardrobe department that his arms were one inch bigger than Arnold Schwarzenegger's. He suggested to Schwarzenegger that they measure arms, with the winner getting a bottle of champagne. Ventura lost, because Schwarzenegger had told the wardrobe department to tell Ventura that his arms were bigger. You're going to have to get up much earlier in the day to get one over a professional practical joker. Practical Effect Fact: The invisibility cloaking effect was achieved with a bright red suit (because it was the farthest opposite of the green of the jungle and the blue of the sky) the size of the Predator (Kevin Peter Hall). The red was removed with chroma key techniques, leaving an empty area. The take was then repeated without the actors using a 30% wider lens on the camera. When the two takes were combined optically, the jungle from the second take filled in the empty area. Because the second take was filmed with a wider lens, a vague outline of the alien could be seen with the background scenery bending around its shape.
Also Jean-Claude Van Damme was the original Predator (in unused rough footage) before he chose to leave the film altogether (due be being very, very, uncomfortable in a hot jungle in a stuffy suit), later he would be replaced by Kevin Peter Hall. Jean-Claude would go work on other films instead and became a big action star himself.
Good reaction, guys. Btw, this 1987 movie featured 2 actors who many years later would actually go on to be Governors. Arnold became the Governor of California...and Jesse Ventura (the guy with the huge machine gun who upon being told he was shot, replied with "I ain't got time to bleed!") became the Governor of Minnesota. And a 3rd guy in that group ran for the Governor of Kentucky. Also, Governor Jesse Ventura was a former US Navy Seal who ran covert operations like these. After his military career he eventually became one of the biggest WWE wrestlers, and then transitioned into some acting roles, and then successfully campaigned to be the Governor of Minnesota.
The composer for this, Alan Silvestri, is probably now most famously known for the Avengers theme from all those films (and reused in other MCU films). It's always wonderful finding a composer that can land hit after hit over a large span of years.
He also composed the soundtracks to the Back To The Future trilogy, Romancing The Stone, Summer Rental, Flight Of The Navigator, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Overboard, The Abyss, Forest Gump, Death Becomes Her, Lilo & Stitch, Stewart Little 1 & 2, Eraser, Cast Away, G.I. Joe: The Rise Of Cobra, Night At The Museum trilogy, The Polar Express, Ready Player One and many many more...
He got a couple seconds cameo at the end of the movie. He was the helicopter pilot. At 7'6 Kevin was a great Predator. I have heard working in that costume in those conditions was extremely grueling. He had to spend many hours in it.
With the big, sweaty muscles bit - Jessie Ventura who played Blain (the one with the mini gun) would find out when Arnie was going to be working out and would get to the gym 5 minutes before him and splash water in his face so it looked like he’d built up a big sweat and would keep working out until after Arnie left the gym and it drove Arnie nuts that it seemed Jessie was working out harder than him
Hey guys! Fun fact - Shane Black, who played the guy with the glasses and dirty jokes, went on to write or direct many notable action movies, himself! - wrote "Lethal Weapon" 1&2 (Chandra needs to see 😉) - wrote & directed Iron Man 3 - even wrote and directed "The Predator" (2018) Great job! 🤘😄👍
This released a year prior to Die Hard and the same year as The Running Man. Arnold Schwarzenegger reunited with director John Mctiernan for Last Action Hero. After this are three sequels, a prequel, two crossover films, comics, graphic novels and videogames. The titular creature was originally played by Jean Claude Van Damme, but was replaced by the more physically imposing Kevin Peter Hall. Other Arnold Schwarzenegger films to watch include Pumping Iron, Conan the Barbarian, Commando, Raw Deal, The Running Man, Red Heat, Twins, Total Recall, Kindergarten Cop, Terminator 2, Last Action Hero, True Lies and Eraser
They were stumped well into production at how to depict the predator. On a plane flight with someone involved with the film, I forget who, James Cameron gave a suggestion: "mandibles". Even in the movies he wasn't making in the 80s and 90s he was helping to save the day. It was a bit of a mistake to show the alien ship at the start because it was a huge spoiler. But the rest of the movie - great. Get to the choppah!
I totally agree about showing the spaceship at the start. When I first caught this movie on TBS in the 90's, I was flipping through the channels and entirely missed that opening scene. When I rewatched it later on, I thought the opening shot of the spaceship would've ruined the experience for me.
Really? A good movie no doubt... I'd even probably agree it's underrated... But a masterpiece? I'm not so sure about that, but of course, it's only my opinion.
Not a masterpiece, but it is a very underrated sequel. Gets a lot more hate than it should, by people who don't seem to know what a bad movie really is. It doesn't quite live up to the original for epicness, but that's stiff competition that very few sequels can ever achieve. It's certainly one of the sequels that doesn't suffer from sequilitis as much as most other franchises.
A couple other movies to check out. Another Arnie movie, "True Lies", lots of action, not many explosions but lots of humor. Another really good action movie "The Kingsman The Secret Service". There are some amazing fight scenes in it.
He quit the movie because it was so very difficult for him to be in that original stuffy bulky suit in such hot jungle in the heat season....did hurt his career any because he would later become a huge action star himself.
Another John McTiernan movie that doesn't get enough love is The 13th Warrior, starring Antonio Banderas. It's an adaptation of the Michael Crichton novel "Eaters Of The Dead", which itself is a riff on the classic story of Beowulf. VERY different from both Die Hard and Predator, but also very enjoyable.
Great reaction! 👍🏻Always loved this movie, I remember watching this as a kid when my parents rented the VHS from the local shop. Those were the days, walking around the store checking out all the new releases. Seemed more exciting back then.
Shane Black, did the Leathal Weapons movies and other films. Think he was a writer and producer. Jean Claude Va Damme was in the actually Predator costume to begin with filming, but quit or was replaced. The guy at the end flying the chopper to pick up Dutch was the real person in the costume. I was 7 seeing this film and it is one of my all time favorites. Rip Carl Weathers. (Dillion)
If you two haven't seen it yet, Conan The Barbarian (1982) is a must see! Arnold's breakout role, plus a truly surprising, unique film of adventure like no other! As for the Predator movies. None are on par with the original, but Predator 2 is well worth the watch, and a really fun and interesting movie. The most recent, Prey, is well liked. It's not a franchise that had many winners, but it is still fun to watch through them, if/when the mood strikes. The Predator vs Aliens movies are even worse - BUT, ya know, they're all we've got for that scenario and have some dumb fun, I suppose. Arnie has some more great movies to watch though. Total Recall, Running Man, Twins, True Lies, Commando, Kindergarten Cop, The Last Action Hero... Take your pick! And, don't forget Conan!! ❤❤
One of the weird bits of trivia that I always like to point out when someone reacts to this movie is that two of the actors - Arnold, obviously, and Jesse Ventura, who played the guy who chewed tobacco - both later become governors in real life. Arnold was governor of California and Jesse Ventura was governor of Minnesota. And the guy who played Billy apparently ran for governor of Kentucky, but lost.
This movie also had two state governors in it. It's a really good thing they changed the creature design from whatever Jean Claude Van Damme was wearing before he quit the film. This design has stood up for nearly forty years.
I'm glad this movie reached the status it so richly deserved. Though a sequel was made a few years later, it wasn't really until the late 90's that this film really became appreciated for how excellent it was. It is also notable for being the first film where 'Arnold' is nearly defeated and does mark a shift into movies where he pushed his acting range more.
Growing up in the 80's was the most magical time, enjoying the Action 80's. Bruce Willis may have proven that you don't need muscles to fight off bad guys, but you just can't help but love the Schwarzenegger era. So glad you guys got a kick out of 1 of my Top 3 favorite Arnold movies!
There is a really cool theory that was somewhat backed up by cannon that the T-800 model terminators that skynet uses are modeled after Dutch . After defeating a predator 1 v 1 the govt took Dutch and they started preparing for a predator invasion . They used tech recovered to advance our tech and even gave Dutch some cyber parts so he could live longer because he took a radiation hit from the explosion. Dutch would come to be one of the founders of Cyberdyne systems which was originally created to combat predators. Cyberdyne /Skynet saw Dutch as the greatest human warrior so they used his image on the T-800 I wish i could remember where I read this , it was from a newer Predator graphic story . It also included Dutch's brother who basically spent his life searching for Dutch after this incident.
Right now what I love most about you two is that you always RESPECT THE INTEGRITY of the movie that you're watching. You allow yourselves to feel what the movie (piece of art) is trying to convey. It's reactors like yourselves that allow me to feel like I'm watching the movie for the first time again. That is something special. THANK YOU. 🙏 👍
This was filmed here in México, the intro scene at the beach and the military base was in Mismaloya town, near Puerto Vallarta , and there is a atractive park called EL Edén where at this day is there a part of the chopper they blew out and a predator statue
I look back in awe that I watched this with my dad when I was 10 back when it came out on video. Can't imagine letting my kids watch this nowadays lol.
Jesse Ventura was a professional wrestler in his younger years and then later was elected as the governor of Minnesota. So there are two future governors in this movie, the other of course being Arnold as the future governor of California.
Alan Silvestri also did the score for Back to the Future which is very similar except for the main theme. Once you know this, you'll always hear the music of one in the other. ;)
The fact that you realize smaller species of scorpion are often more potent. Coolness. I actually have that species as a pet and they glow insanely bright under UV. Anyhow, I like the chemestry you two have, oh how I wish I had friends to watch movies with. All my friends are not so local or not into movies, etc. Most of them don't even watch my videos or know I have even been on TV , lol.
I've watched this movie a bunch of times, and never picked up on the role reversal with Dutch camouflaged in the trees, and the Predator firing wildly like its previous victims... well done Chandra!
The dude who played Hawkins is actually the director of this film. He's awesome. Fun fact, the actor that played Billy was so nuts in real life they had to hire a body guard to fallow him around and keep him from attacking and hurting other people. I actually like all the predator movies. The first Alien vs Predator movie is fun but it's only okay. It changed a bit too much of the lore from the books. The second Alien vs Predator movie is way more intense and actually feels like the dark house comics or the novels. They were BRUTAL with the deaths and the fact that NO ONE was safe or off limits of being killed.
The sound design and sound editing for Predator was outstanding. In movies theaters with good sound systems, you got a sense of where the Predator was located when camoflaged by the sound of a tree branch or other forest material. You also knew when the Predator was above or to the right or left of a character. Very smart filmmaking that enhanced our appreciation of the stealthiness of the alien creature.
I just rewatched this a couple nights ago! With a big bowl of popcorn and the windows open to let in that early summer breeze... doesn't get much better than that 😃
You guys already know about Aliens vs. Predator. In 1990 there was no such thing when Predator 2 came out. No spoilers, but there is a scene in Predator 2 when you glimpse a wall covered with trophy skulls, and one of them is an Alien skull (Sigourney Weaver's xenomorph alien). In the theater with my friend, seeing that skull for about half a second blew my mind. I told my friend but he missed it. He didn't believe me. I mean, those are two entirely different and unrelated movies. So when the movie ended, we bought tickets and watched it again. He saw it that time. Little did we know it was foreshadowing what would be our favorite franchise crossover ever.
That's not quite true. Dark Horse Comics released the first (and arguably best) Aliens Vs Predator limited series in 1989. Predator 2 was the first hint of a cross-over in film but the idea had already been done in the comics. Frankly, the studio should have used the comic series as their template for their movie. It would have been a much better movie and it would have stuck with the lore established for both franchises.
Originally, Dutch was supposed to beat the Predator when they fought mano a mano because, you know, Arnold's the hero, but it was Arnold himself who said "I can't beat him. He's a monster, and I'm just a man," and the scene was changed to have the Predator completely dominating the fight, and Dutch having to use the booby trap to beat him.
Hey, Chandra and Jordan! "Predator" is a Schwarzenegger action classic directed by John McTiernan, director of "Die Hard", "Die Hard with a Vengeance", "The Hunt for Red October", "Medicine Man", "The Thomas Crown Affair" and "The 13th Warrior". The Schwarzenegger-accented "Get to the chopper!" became a popular catch-phrase that entered into the general lexicon. The Predator species name is YAUTJA (YOWT-ja). They are interstellar sportsmen whose entire culture revolves around big game hunting. They test themselves against apex predators which often includes sentient beings like man. They have a code in that they do not kill the unarmed or the infirm as it is not challenging nor do they kill pregnant prey as a way of husbanding the livestock. If vanquished, they leave no trace of themselves behind by detonating a powerful bomb so as to leave the "preserve" pristine by not contaminating the indigenous culture with their technology. As a rite of passage, they must blood themselves by killing a xenomorph from the "Alien" series. If prey is worthy by offering good sport and defeating the hunter, the tribe will bestow the victor with a trophy. There's a pretty good Predator fan film on RU-vid set in the Middle Ages with knights called "Predator: Dark Ages" starring Adrian Bouchet (Steapa) from "The Last Kingdom"! The movie is an alien variant of "The Most Dangerous Game", the Richard Connell short story from 1924 which has inspired countless man-hunting-man movies like "Hard Target", "The Naked Prey", "Race with the Devil", "Southern Comfort", "The Running Man", "Surviving the Game" and "Beyond the Reach". The Central American guerrillas were probably Communists receiving supply and support from Russian advisors explaining the Soviet presence. Billy faced off against the Predator alone because he would rather die fighting than running; it was a matter of honor. He drew first blood with his machete so that the Predator would not have the privilege. It's a Native American custom. Anna was unarmed and, therefore, spared. Wounded Poncho was killed because he had already been marked as a combatant and was still holding a weapon. The Predator released Dutch, took off its mask and fought him hand-to-hand because it considered Dutch to be worthwhile prey. The Predator repeated Dutch's question back to him, "What the he!! are you?" as a way of expressing begrudging admiration for the puny meatbag that bested him. The last laugh was the Predator's mimicry. It was using a recording of Billy's laughter at Hawkins' lewd joke to express a fatalistic defiance to Dutch. Three of the cast went into politics! Schwarzenegger became Governor of California, former wrestler Jesse "The Body" Ventura, who played heavy-gunner Blaine, became Governor of Minnesota and Sonny Landham, who played tracker Billy, ran for Governor of Kentucky. Jean Claude Van Damme was supposed to be the Predator originally but he had difficulty with the alien suit as initially designed and was considered too small in stature to be threatening! Special Effects maestro Stan Winston was tasked with redesigning the alien to fit the 7'2" Kevin Peter Hall who appears, unmasked, as the helicopter pilot at the end. The dreds were inspired by a Rastafarian painting in producer Joel Silver's office and the mandibles were the contribution of a napkin sketch by director James Cameron who shared a flight and a brainstorming conversation with Winston by pure chance! Danny Glover stars in the underrated urban-set "PREDATOR 2" which has some memorable set pieces and provides more lore! Dark Horse comics capitalized on crossing the Predator franchise with the Alien franchise inspiring Hollywood to make TWO crossover "ALIEN vs. PREDATOR" films with moderately successful to excellent results. They're fun and exciting guilty pleasures with the second one, "ALIENS vs. PREDATOR: REQUIEM", being particularly lean and mean. There is also a "PREDATORS" film produced by Robert Rodriguez that is definitely worth a look. "THE PREDATOR" (2018) REBOOT, however, should be approached with caution as it very nearly killed the franchise! The 18th-century set "PREY" is an excellent prequel to the original film which was released on Hulu. The Alien films have a RICHER SUBTEXT while the Predator films are more ACTION FARE but they're both fun sci-fi thrillers. VIEWING ORDER: Alien Aliens (Special Edition) Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) Alien Resurrection (Director's Cut) [OPTIONAL] Predator (1987) Predator 2 Predators Prey Alien vs Predator Aliens vs Predator: Requiem (Unrated) Prometheus [OPTIONAL] Covenant [OPTIONAL] Alien: Romulus The Predator (2018) [EXTREMELY OPTIONAL] INTERNAL CHRONOLOGY: 1719 Prey 1987 Predator 1997 Predator 2 2004 Alien vs Predator 2004 Aliens vs Predator: Requiem (Unrated) 2010 Predators 2018 The Predator (2018) [EXTREMELY OPTIONAL] 2093 Prometheus [OPTIONAL] 2104 Covenant [OPTIONAL] 2122 Alien 2142 Alien: Romulus 2179 Aliens (Special Edition) 2179 Alien 3 (Assembly Cut) 2379 Alien Resurrection (Director's Cut) [OPTIONAL]
Fun fact: This was filmed down in Mismaloya, Mexico and the actors hated it because of the heat,insects and other stuff. They were miserable the whole time. The mini gun is electric so there was a battery cable hooked to it that was hidden by special affects.
They actually did a field test because of this movie and a human can avoid detection from heat vision with a layer of mud. There’s an in depth video on RU-vid about it.
Great reaction, as often with you guys. "I ain't got time to bleed" remains to this day the most badass one-liner ever written, imo. But but but, no comment on Shane Black?! Come on!! :D
Shane Black, reading the comic at the very end credits, is the writer of Lethal Weapon. He has also written and directed other movies including a favorite of mine, Nice Guys.
What make this 80s classic Arnie movie so special at the time was subverting expectation in an actual refreshing great way from a typical action fest beginning into a surprising effective horror movie. Yes indeed its from the same filmmaker that also did classic Die Hard :-)
Predator, Alien, Terminator are all just some of the great movie monsters special effects legend Stan "The Man" Winston and his effects company brought to life. Also, the Predator's sounds and voice at the end are from Peter "Optimus Prime" Cullen. The chopper pilot was played by the guy who played the Predator, as a way of them letting us see him outside of the suit, for all of the suffering he had to go through. Additionally, some of the cloaked Predator effects are left over from when Jean Claud VanDamm was playing the Predator prior to its rework. Since it's hidden by the cloaking effect, you can't really tell that it's more lithe than the uncloaked one. I believe there's a mockup somewhere of what the Predator was originally intended to look like (more slender, reptilian), that you could look up. We do see some of VanDamm's work in the making of stuff on the special editions.
