America’s (Totally Legal) Body Trade, Explained 

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It's interesting to see this similarity, In Hong Kong, we refer to them as "Silent teachers" (無言老師）

In my uni they're called "eternal teachers" (guru abadi). The med students and even the anatomy professor, has to knock the anatomy lab doors before entering and paid our outmost respect for them.

I really like all three of these terms. I am still thankful for the lady that I had the privilege to dissect in anatomy lab at medical school...

Mine was a guy who robbed someone and was shot in the head. 😐 wasnt as noble as you guys

The same in China though, just to paying respect to the deceased.

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Don’t ya think it’s maybe for display

@Santi Diaz Yes, partially. But it's also true appreciation. Also, it's good for the families who may be concerned about the process and to honor the people who donated their bodies.

It was one of the most emotional classes I’ve ever had. Truly an incredible experience

Well toxic sick people in your field are going to ruin it the way they ruin everything in every area of society

🤣go tell that to a butcher.

What does a butcher have to do with medicine? A butcher works with animal meat, not human bodies. Maybe you’re from an area where that enormous distinction is less prominent? Though to be fair, it’s difficult to imagine that anywhere on earth is actually that backward at this point in time.

@@sarahalderman3126 difficult to imagine? There are tribes in India today that still practice cannibalism and human sacrifice.

@@olgastepanov8479 I’m assuming your young cause you think it’s funny. As an adult this is not funny. This is actually dangerous lot of ppl who lives in Europe will take it seriously and start killing ppl just so they could examine them or eat them. And I’m not sure what you mean when you said tell that to a butcher. Butchers kills animals and autopsies is to examine the body for medical purposes.

Hey arent you a muslim?

But it's sad when it's use on the other way round

Yeah I don't have a problem with all this medical device stuff and I'm so down to get blown up! Kaboom! 💥

Didn't a persons grandma got exploded by a bomb by the military or something like that lol

@@pneumonianakey yeh

Uhm, from what I've read in the replies, you can better check if the US military didn't get their hands on your grammy...

So she should have been that is absolutely abhorrent behaviour. Unfortunately I have also worked in theatres where staff have said some despicable things about the patient on the table. This should not happen and shouldn’t be condoned in any way or manner.

Was this in the U.S.A?

@@amberrj. I was wondering that & came back to ask, but you beat me too it.

@@amberrj. no Australia

@@Felicity2121 yeah, something told me that incident probably didn't occur in the U.S lol.

Yep. It seems like such a small choice at the time. But it can be a life changing event for others.

It shouldn't. That's really sad.

I'm glad students there learn to respect the donors and their families.

Cost of funeral is high, that might explain why the lower income families are more receptive to the donation offer

a lot of richness in this world is created by the poor

@@bonsang1073 Very True!

Yes I agree! His identity should’ve never been known to the public. No wonder there’s outrage. I have studied in college on cadavers and it’s important no one ever knows their name. We only figure out their occupation sometimes and their disease history. Also I don’t think people that aren’t serious about a certain field that involves these cadavers should even be allowed to come into the same room as them. I am a nursing major, I’m all for science and learning but there’s a certain sense of morality and adherence that should be proven to be allowed to access such important specimens in these sensitive matters.

It’s also illegal to take photos of full cadavers unless specific regulations apply while in a school. If the school finds out you took photos in medical school of a cadaver, it is grounds for dismissal and legal repercussions.

Ethics in modern medicine? Good joke.

Yep, the cadavers my anatomy department used were treated very respectfully. Everything about how the university treated them kept in mind the fact that they were human beings that gave us a wonderful gift.

@@runswithraptors its not ethics. Its called professionalism respect to the professionals

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It is an amazing analogy of how we've cannibalized those we are indebted to. Think about it, someone's entire future is irreversibly taken, lost to being in the service of the continuation of everyone else's sovereignty, liberty, that right to live out the potential that they themselves will never quite have again, because they are the ones who will have to shoot, be shot at, watch the human body be maimed in the most unspeakable ways, that we cannot imagine, because we didn't see it or hear it or feel it, what it's like to see someone looking back at you with the top of their head blown off, they're dead... But they were young. Someone you knew. You can't come back from that and be the exact same person you could've been before experiencing your friend getting their brains splattered all over the ground, what you are after that isn't you anymore. But it ought to be, if not reconcilable in any way, it ought to be bittersweet that a man loses himself in combat so that the world will be better, because he sacrificed himself all the same, even if he did survive, even if he still goes on to bring his suffering on others, that sacrifice is supposed to be an equivalent exchange where the loss of his own dignity is for the continuation of our own so that one day, man may not be selfish, bloody and despicable. But after all that the veteran of a war has achieved or attempted, That body is a fucking commodity. The same as his experience was something to monetize, and his wellbeing was a service to perform at the lowest cost and for the highest return on investment. Because that man probably didn't have a choice in whether or not his future possibilities were taken from him. And we, delusional, disillusioned, who inherited his earth, we can't imagine losing the money making opportunities.

Human organs trafficking is thriving in India, when you show a pros should show the cons as well, just saying.

Yeah let's go science

Yup in med College in India, the first day of anatomy class. The proff discusses about respecting the dead body / cadaver who will be teaching the students from today onwards. And photos aren't allowed bcs that's disrespectful.

Ah-ha... Fascinating _addendum_ to this investigation.

Prove that there is indeed solid regulation from Universities, you can't prove it can you? They are as guilty as the NADO groups.

Who is going to think that some of the missing people yearly end up in a test, or as a bomb test, or in a medical school? I mean, who's tracking and reporting that the actual bodies are donated. . . Scary? There are movies about that. Conspiracy or fantasy. Not that far away from reality in some places . . . :/

Great to see some medlife crisis insights here!

Thanks Maybe do your own video about this issue.

They say if you sign up as a donor they're more inclined to let you pass if you have a life threatening issue

Why do you say one of the few schools still doing full body dissection? What supplants the full body dissection?

@@porkbeans854 most schools use videos or picture slides of already dissected cadavers. They will supplement with textbooks and lectures as well. These show the anatomy pretty well, but it's not the real thing. Very few schools actually have students do the full dissection on cadavers. It's like 3-5 schools at this point

EXACTLY! We were working with cadavers in my class and a guy was poking it like for fun and the teacher was very mad and made them leave the room. You can’t even say a word without being penalized for it. His identity should’ve never been known to the public. No wonder there’s outrage. I have studied in college on cadavers and it’s important no one ever knows their name. We only figure out their occupation sometimes and their disease history. Also I don’t think people that aren’t serious about a certain field that involves these cadavers should even be allowed to come into the same room as them. I am a nursing major, I’m all for science and learning but there’s a certain sense of morality and adherence that should be proven to be allowed to access such important specimens in these sensitive matters.

@@frenchfrythecool yes. A dissection is VERY different than a text book. Just like it’s different if your blind but you can hear, or you can see but you can’t smell and can only get a description. It’s much different. I think it’s terrible they don’t do full body dissections. I don’t get it, if your gonna use the body might as well not waste it and use the whole thing

When I die I intend to be donated to science, and while I hope fully that my body would be used in research and contribute to a finding or research of some sort.... I also don't care about the "respect" my body would be treated with, nor does the idea of my dead body being used to set up a joke make me vicariously uncomfortable. I would not care one bit whether or not my identity was kept hidden or any expectsted notion of respect given to my body. Those notions of respect are virtues for the living. I wouldn't care a single bit...because I'd be fucking dead lol. I would honestly hope that students or whomever got to use my cadaver had a bunch of fun using it and found it helpful for whatever they were using it for. The idea of being posthumously useful and helpful to students is a very nice thought that would make me happy, and while I would hope my body would be given the respect needed to get from it a long period of usefulness, I wouldn't want them to feel so uptight around my cadaver that they were afraid to have fun using my dead body

It was such a good way to wrap up the video

@Shivaditya Varman Many institutions in America have similar practices.

I like the American tradition of testing explosives on dead bodies better

@Shivaditya Varman lol thanks for running our call centers

@Shivaditya Varman when you get so used to different countries culture you don’t think it’s culture, guess I should say Europe has no culture ._.

If only people were actually considerate and not driven by greed

Cool :). I wonder which country you are from and is it true that all countries’ med schools have cadavers from other countries, I feel like this is just a First World market

“Body brokers” sound really disturbing. I lost trust a long time ago. I think when more people are aware of what is happening, sadly less people will be willing to donate for a good cause. Plus what’s to say what really happens to your body whether you consent or not.

@@NoBody-lb7fp i’m from Egypt and yes we get cadavers from other countries. Germany , USA mainly but also China , India and many other countries

training to be a memory-bot pathologist when every major medical problem in the world is preventable and caused by modern living conditions XD nice choice.

r.i.p Rodney Dangerfield

@@houseplant1016 If he were here he'd probably say "Rest in peace? More like rest in pieces!"

wrong. The actual joke he made was _"the shape i'm in, i could donate my body to science fiction"_

@@korganrocks3995 Ah I miss the old fella

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And the only reason my grandmother has mechanical knees that allow her to walk instead of being in a wheelchair is because somebody profited off implanting mechanical knees into a dead leg and showed it off to s9me surgeons. So yeah, painting that part as bad just because ppl make profit is crazy to me.

@@dustingaethje1332 agreed. i had to watch it twice to get that it was ambiguity when marketing that he had a problem with ("did shaun know that that's what science was defimed as?"). some people don't watch twice. or think about it well. thats tricky. they might walk away with a feeling of "profit makes it bad".

The profit part is bad though. Cutting human beings up into pieces by actual corporate monsters to profit off of is wrong despite any minute benefit someone else may or may not have received.

@@sarahalderman3126 I'd say the benefits to humans who are still living vastly outweigh any of the money involved. People just see business and profit and instantly jump to hate on it without viewing it objectively.

​@@dustingaethje1332 I agree, I think that teaching surgeons how to use new implants, which is a necessary part of selling new biomedical devices, is arguably continuing education. Maybe the broader issue is how companies will do this buy outdoing each other in treating doctors to fancy dinners and conventions at resort destinations and paying for first class travel. But that part of it that I hate has nothing to do with using a cadaver to demonstrate how new equipment works. Surgeons have to learn about new techniques and technologies all the time!

ugh yeah. its horrifying :(

do you have the link for the aricle?

@@nordpooli188 i think fcked up cases like that is probably infamous and easy to find on google

@@zumabbaryeah i already found it

@@nordpooli188 please share the link

True:)

So that's why so many people get badly done hip replacements.

@@porkbeans854 actually, if you ever need surgery, please go to an academic center with residents. The attendings aren’t paid by the surgery and are instead on salary. In private practice, they over operate cuz of profit and choosing the wrong patients to operate on leads to bad outcomes (as opposed to other treatments like PT, injections, etc). Academic center are also much more ethical in treating patients and surgical attendings will not let bozo medical students become their residents. No, the residents aren’t operating by themselves. They do as much as the attending allows and they’re always scrubbed/hands in the body. For post op if you’re in the hospital, academic centers will have a team residents supervise your care of you 24/7. So actual doctors. In a private hospital, there are little to no doctors in house (as they’re all at home asleep) and the nurses take care of you without any supervision. Take your pick.

@Crypto Lyndon ? I have no clue what you’re trying to say.

@Crypto Lyndon That's the kind of attention to detail I want from my doctors.

Wow, that`s really cool

My school does a similar thing, but at the end of the process. We have cadavers for a year, then host a funeral that all the students can attend to thank the people and families that made such an incredible donation to our learning.

Capitalism moment

It shows how Americans view life and honestly they should be paying the people for your own body not the people talking them into it. Then you wouldn't need people to be talked into it as well.

Free market can be senseless and ruthless at times

BlackHoleOfTime Paying them? They’re dead. What are the dead going to use the money or their non-functioning body for?

You be suprised, the medical industry here is absolutely insane. The deeper you look the sicker it gets.

If they offer money... most families will refuse to donate anymore, and the ones who donate will be the poor ones and we will say they exploit the poor...

Interesting

Interesting seeing you here :o Don't you dare start getting ideas of selling 162 Parts >:(

@@armablign It's not so bad.

Wait what? Which is the legit body works?

Omg was she the one that got blown up

That is just inhumane.

On some videos i think there is too much tbh.

i truly wish the U.S. political processes are more like Switzerland's edit: i'm saying this as an American

@Crypto Lyndon Some might say it's even crazier to treat the lifeless remains of a human as sacrosanct, as if the mind which formerly inhabited it could possibly be aware, let alone in objection to, that human corpse being recycled to keep presently living humans alive and healthy. If we applied the same logic to mundane objects, we'd have... well, pretty much an iPhone. An extremely expensive thing that lasts until the first thing stops working, before it is relegated to being put on a shelf for a while, and eventually buried. The very idea of replacing a part with one from a broken phone would be taboo. Imagine disrespecting the memories of that phone, and the emotional bond between it and its owner. Yeah, you may have intuited that I'm not the religious type. I wouldn't say Switzerland was crazy even if there wasn't an easy way to opt out. It's simply a change in the default state, with anybody concerned enough about the integrity of their already decaying flesh golem able to have their way, too.

@@HavokTheorem I hope you really don't compared an iphone to a human body.

@@HavokTheorem I can't believe what I'm reading

That would go left really quick in the US.

but what is america if you can’t make money off anything and everything. is it even america if brokers aren’t profiting off something?

Sadly in the US making money is the most important thing to way too many people in the government for this to ever happen

Also those same people villianize the government and act like the "free market" wouldn't do awful horrible things, despite evidence over and over because they're paid by owners of these businesses

And uni are corrupt too lol

whether corpse is used for entertainment or medical studies shouldnt be matter. its not alive.

T UT

Hehe. Depends on the price. If its cheaper to get the body part from a "prison on death row"...

@@arnowisp6244 Arno Wisp, doesn't sound bad to me, dead people are no people at all and I think we can strip them of their bodies for the greater good, they're dead anyways

please add a warning b4 Your comment just like Johnny did; and yes I also have high hopes for 3D-printed organs.

@@jakobmoiirers_jmoii Seriously? Warning before comment. I hate this liberal indoctrination

Anatomy is an important sub genre of *_"Gross"_*

Same here in the uk.but sometimes they refuse the body if its typically an old person because they have so many thst age , they prefer younger corpses.tbh im not religious so i dont care whats done to my body, dogs can eat me.

Universities are pretty picky on the bodies they take - I have also looked into body donation in Canada, but due to health conditions I don't expect anywhere to take my body when I'm done with it.

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maybe stop wasting time studying things that dont matter

@@emvv3784 not sure where u going for on this but what sort of study is matter then? I do cancer research and most people appreciate the field (but cannot appease everyone) 😅. And I get paid to 'waste time' as u said. Usually, the tissue that we requested are only 1mm3 to 1cm3 for pathology and not the whole organ. Donation to biobank or research uni is good nonetheless, because scientist need to go through a lengthy ethical approval process 🥲😭. I may be guilty of doing all this for fun but it is to deepen our knowledge in science.

​@@emvv3784 so what do you study?

@@patriciaanais9175 Prolly RU-vid

@@daisuke910 i heard that people that goes to medical school like that (already expensive) is also had to bought the body for themselves at an expensive cost ? why ? when the donatur is willing to donate his body for free is it because the maintenance costs of the dead body ? and the delivery ? im just curious because you said you are a scientist

@easyHistory remember me when your dad left with the milk, because i was the milk

@@justanexpressionlessguy2167 sheesh dude

if you won't sell it they might steal it it has nothing to do with wealth

Just cashapp me help the poor

You don't get money to pay off debt, they just pay for the cremation

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We all do stupid things, it was probably a groupmechanism of who is tougher/braver.

@@houseplant1016 nice way to excuse psychopathy

@@BeHappyTo yeah or borderline cult behaviour

Sounds about right considering my experience with doctors

@@BeHappyTo I Amsterdam.

really, it's so bad ! India has large population and many are poor. So, injustice against them is common.

What 😳

Horrible. I had heard local homeless people were often used but importing poor people is next level

Which makes you wonder… where are all the missing black children… here in America… black lived don’t matter… no where on this planet..,

Theres also illegal human/organ trades capture poor children for their parts

Yes!

They actually have ceremonies for cadaver’s families at medical schools in the US too; he just didn’t mention it.

This! I heard of a man who donated his body to science and that ended up being the science of testing how new bullets blow up a head. Everyone knows damn well that's not the kind of science people donate their body for

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