America's spy program exposed 

We should have no doubts what the final goals of the US are, and also not underestimate how low they are willing to stoop to achieve those goals.

snowden and assange already warned us about this so many times

The leadership of US is showing how desperate it is. Their empire is falling and they cannot stop it.

So many sick minds in America. 😥

Bizarre to view the war in Ukraine as a good investment at less than 5% of the defence budget and good business for the defence industry! It seems the lives of Ukrainians lost in the war and the devastation of the country doesn't matter!

Glad to see Ben Norton on CGTN. Please invite him more often. Thanks.

As a US citizen I note that not only does the US try to hold China down but also its citizens like me. Though I ive in Florida's 14th US House district, I have no successful communication with my Representative, Kathy Castor. She does not repond to messages about US foreign policy. She tells me by her silence, "You, an individual US citizaen and voter in my district have no role to play in matters of foreign policy, except one - to pay for it and to pay for the interest on the public debt that pays for it, as must your children and grandchildren. You must pay for this historically unprecedented public burden that is multiplied by our invasions, coups, and endless aggression abroad, most specically against China and Russia, which have not wanted to be our enemies. No matter that the printing of dollars has caused unending inflation, distrust in the dollar, and the decline in influence of our country, worldwide. Don't write to me about it. I pay no attention to you."

As a mandarin speaking Chinese Canadian(who spent most of my childhood in the US) the traitors who accept jobs from the CIA shall never be Chinese in my eyes. I know what Canada and the USA is like, I’ve heard of the western dreams. I’ve lived through the reality! Human society will have problems but so many people nitpick China’s problems to cover their own. I do not wish for war but I will never forgive the “Chinese” who spy on their own brothers and sisters. For money or otherwise, they should know that spying on China for the USA is to let their motherland burn. To sow chaos and confusion among the citizens. Selling lies of western superiority to Chinese youth. I love my country and I may be useless in the eyes of immigration. I will stand by China 🇨🇳 I’m not exceptional or special, all I can offer is my passion and love for my country. And I just hope one day I can be accepted, I couldn’t control where I was born. I couldn’t tell I was being brainwashed by the US media and school system for years. It took many years of rejecting my identity to realize that I need to go back to my roots. I’m so thankful I am fluent in mandarin, I was able to compare multiple sources of information. Cross comparing between English and Chinese content. And furthermore comparing between information content between profit oriented channels vs information oriented channels. Don’t be fooled! Google is very anti-Chinese, RU-vid algorithm is also very anti-China. Those “history” RU-vidrs who site their sources to popular google web searches, ARE NOT RELIABLE. I don’t believe in being blind and accepting all influences from the media. I believe in level headed judgement with a solid moral compass, based on lawful neutral/lawful goodness. I personally don’t forgive traitors who make the conscious choice to sacrifice others for their personal gain. As always CGTN news is a very neutral news channel compared to western content, and fame seeking Chinese self-media channels. The self-media might be entertaining, but I do like to double check on CGTN❤ thank you for being a voice for us commoners who have no fame or money. I was shamed for being Chinese, for having a “backwards culture” I had to endure people saying that my country and government are the bad guys with no evidence. That every problem is society is caused by my ethnicity. It’s so comforting to hear something normal and neutral. I’m so thankful I woke up from that nightmare, believing every word fed to me by western media. I don’t have to lower my head for these people. I am proud to be Chinese, I am so proud of my country and people. I am so proud of our culture, and I am so proud of our ancestors for enduring over 5,000 years of ups and downs. Thinking about us, surviving and protecting those relics for us. I wish for China to be able to learn, adapt, overcome any difficulties. And I believe in the people fighting for a better future for the common people ❤祖国万岁 中国万岁 致敬我们的英雄。万里江山如此美丽动人，那都是先辈的血肉换来的。他们吃了几辈子的苦，就是为了我们能天天吃上一口热饭。不用怕战阵，不用怕饿死，不用怕没学历，不用怕一身只能做粗活。我们现在女生也能学习，穷人也能上学。56个名族和平相处，我能活在这时代的中国 是我的福气。我一定要回家，我一定要好好学我们的历史文化。我也要我未来的孩子学。一定不能失传 一定不能忘记❤保家卫国不只是我们先辈的工作，也是我们00后的工作。

please don't underestimate the CIA, we need to double down too, and keep the CIA out.

Despicable to profit from sufferings. that is how low US had stooped.

Victor Gao, the legend that put Britain in their place😂😂😂

Americans have a well established history of aggression towards other nations to take what they want, rather than simply working for it. This strategy has been working for them, and they have no reason to stop. They are directly responsible for the NATO war against Russia and as long as they can get foreigners to fight these wars, they have no reason to stop. Americans have little regard for the pain and suffering of foreigners but they cry loudly when their soldiers are maimed or killed. A clear example of this was during the Vietnam war when there were a large number of US casualties causing the American public to turn against the war. The only way that the US government will cease their aggression is if they start a war that actually gets fought on their own land. Sooner or later this is bound to happen.

Countries worldwide must join forces to stop all CIA threat ...

War is the only US language,talks are just stalling tactics.

Ben my guy. You are going places. Keep it up

If you see how Tom Cotton treated Mr. Chew, the CEO of Tik Tok, in the Senate, you should approve how China must treat the real CIA agents.

As a fellow American to Ben, I'm happy to hear him on this network because it's true. Some of the American public sees through this too.

Ben Norton hit the nail on it's head 👍

I always am proud of Ms Liu Xin ❤

Again, it is a waste of time to talk to someone who never honors his/her words!

Never trust America 👍🇳🇿🇷🇺

Btw , Ben is a great guest!

The CIA guy really has the name of Mr.Burns. 😅

Chinese system is a challenge to the ruling elite in the West. What if kowtowing in front of 0.001%, the MIC and warmongers is not the best way to go? What if there's a system that actually helps ordinary people have a decent life? Not to mention that China develops itself with a fraction of the American expenses because corruption is a serious crime in China.

Сhina has always been doing a good job at catching the С|А assets. Meanwhile in India: 'Pigeon suspected of being Сhinese spy released by police in India after being detained for eight months' Eight months! Good job India! You really showed that red pigeon who's the boss! :) Also, I'm really glad to see Ben Norton on your program CGTN. His great insight is always deeply appreciated.

Three 👍 👌 👍 👌 👍 great commentators ❤❤❤❤!

Criminals always suspects other on crime they committed

US will never leave China alone, but they can never ever stop China from reaching the top of the table.

Love Victor Gao's intelligence

Failing empire, lashing out like a drowning man.

Yes. Yellen is one of them. Keeps going to China to spy.

Straight out envy and feeling threatened because other nations are doing well or better.

the only thing my idiot uncle sam loves more than war, is the next war.

Ben Norton is brilliant - long may he live and speak the TRUTH.

Many of us wonder who is really in charge in Washington. Who is pulling the President's strings?

The usa needs to accept it can’t be king forever.

China should stop having dialogues with the US officials, period.

This is simply Fear. This historical insecurity is why there are so many US military bases worldwide and continuous conflicts.

The US is simply jealous of China’s progress on all fronts - economics, wealth, acquisition of knowledge, R&D, space etc. The US should get real and grow up. Feeling challenged will not take away the fact that China will surpass everyone else in the near term. Seriously, if the US feels intimidated why not list down the tangible threats that China poses (be it militarily or territorial, economic, technology, space, etc) and then have sit-down discussions to come to terms like the past SALT talks limiting long-range ballistic missiles with the Soviets during the cold war era.

No force on earth will Really challenge an alliance between China and Russia it is important these two countries get real with themselves and work together more extensively on all areas

I'm not sure Ukraine will survive as a state because Zelensky has managed to sell agricultural land to European and American mega-companies. Ukraine's debts are such that it will always be there. In such conditions the country will not be sovereign but will be a typical colony. For Ukrainians to live in acceptable socio-cultural conditions and have a normal business environment in the future is minimized. Normal future of Ukrainians in terms of their everyday private life is possible only within Russia.

I don’t believe it, they’re too busy spying on their friends and allies just now! And they get more benefits from finding out those friends’ naughty secrets and blackmailing them.

CIA's loud announcement-generate a perception of threat, dominance or maybe they would have invested in this project and wants to see the China’s reaction. Years back US announced similarly for the management of Iran. Though it’s a different scenario but…. analyze what happened to US's $35 billion investment in case of Iran.... Technologically China is far more ahead of US & they must accelerate and widen this gap with perfection. US would strike on China’s economic frontiers and that may start from hindering investments in China, stealing innovative ideas/targeting key professionals, disrupting innovative technological projects etc. However, they would mainly invest in polluting China's image as a nation, industrial achievements/products, political system, governance, & leadership.... US would use all menial digital tools to disrupt China’s market, including China’s customers spread all over the world up to disrupting the China's diplomatic ties with international communities. China needs to remain cool, show restraint.... but they must build potential of preemptive strike if US crossed the limit of China’s national decency.

the path of development for China is thru peace and harmony;. It does not exploit the weak or the poor. Nor does it impose sanctions on others

The reason for US publicity of this measure, as with all similar measures, is to intimidate foes as well as friends. The US is simply attempting to project hegemonic power, whether the basis of that power still exists or not.

"China will continue to rise, and you have to live with that fact." Hahahahaa... Well said!

Benjamin Norton is very nice and Professional relevant to American Politicians attitude and gestures towards China and World Affairs. Norton is insightful and positive constructive in narration no doubt target to the point I appreciate and admire him as Analyst . Thanks for calling him CGTN platform 😂❤ . The coverage between Benjamin Norton and Victor Gao conversation is really interesting and knowledgeable cover everything in the related topic subjects articles About America increase Spy budget against china 😂❤.

I've learnt a lot over the last 5 years about China and i admire their patience and peaceful rising to its original position on the world stage. Please save Palestine and the world please

A Day Without Peeping into Other Countries Toilets IS A WASTED DAY at CIA and Pentagon!🤡🤠👺👻👽

You guys deserve a medal for the good work you do.

Not only 7 times, you forgot Burns mentioned in his sleep every nights. 😂😂😂

Genocid Joe must go.

Oh shit! Nice to see you here Ben!!

Great interview with both guests. Ben Norton is an expert on geo-political issues. I follow his channel here on RU-vid. He eloquently explains these issues in detail, be it on US-China-Taiwan tensions, the Ukraine-Russia conflict, Israel-Palestinian issue, etc.

3:58 The target of Burns's article is the US domestic audience. It is designed to convey two messages - 1) China is a threat. 2) We are doing something about it.

The thing people like Mr. Gao don't understand is, most people do not care about politics. People do not collectively decide policies, leadership does. People in the West are helpless. They gather in rallies and demand to be heard, hoping that their leaders will listen and change their policies. They are similar to Mr. Gao in that sense. But nothing will change as long as the leaders are the same. If the US disappears but you see the same leaders in the Collective West who are hostile to China and Russia, then don't expect the policies to change. If Israel disappears but the same Arab leaders remains who are hostile to Iran, don't expect the hostility to just disappear. Bottom line is, leaders set the agenda and the policies. You'll need to change the leaders, or defeat them in the battlefield.

Mr Victor Gao.

China stands for just and justice!

The accent of host is very unique. It sounds intelligent.

Aggressive move is the only language America understands Russia or China should not be the only pragmatic people in the room if they want aggression let them get aggression

Je suis certain que la Chine à un très bon service de renseignements et qu'elle saura se protéger de la menace extérieure d'où qu'elle provienne.

Unfortunately, the Empires have a limited time to rule history and have proved that over and over again.

😢The West are never going stop 😢❤

Great interview! Thanks

Hi Ben. you have arrived, 恭喜发财.

US exceptionalism

Uncle Sam cannot innovate anymore, relying on past discovery. This is why he is reacting like an insane bipolar person

Leave them alone, they have nothing else other than creating chaos to do.

The wicked runneth when no one cometh.

Ben Norton & Victor Gao - steadfast in your support of China. Jia you.

Damn them.

Somebody PLEASE send another balloon, the last one popped 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If CHINA wants to portray itself as a free and liberal country then let the CCP make it more easy for foreigners to travel there and to allow them to travel any where except those restricted places that are off limits to every one and let them pass a law that allows amy foreginer to ask any one any question without the fear of arrest. Currently the GDP of the USA i s about 28 trillion U$ while China's is about 17 trillion US$ , I can't see with such a large gap that China will catch up any time too soon.

Happy new year of the Dragon beautiful Liu Xin ❤️😊

Judging by the UK's current delusion of grandeur, America is likely to continue down its illogical path in the forseenable decades, even as its biophysical economy dips to well below 10% of the global sum.

Good to see Ben on here

Ex Cathedra ... THANK YOU ... Very Good. Blessings. 🗝🙏🙏🙏🗝

The United States still maintains nearly 800 military bases in more than 70 countries and territories abroad-from giant “Little Americas” to small radar facilities. Great Britain, France and Russia, by contrast, have about 30 foreign bases combined. What a huge difference!.

Nice dialogue.

They already put hiring aid 3500 people 5 months ago.

This is what I called a true American the gentleman with the glasses Bravo 👏 you're a patriot 👏 well explained and wished more Americans inform themselves as much as you thank you

Good program.

Let Ben speak jeez

China and peace cannot be put in the same sentence.

If you are the real strongest, you see no threats in your eyes. The moments when you see threats, and show so much worries desperations, you are no more the strongest anymore.

china should recruit their muslims in their country to counter cia after palestin they have 2billion itching to dish out some payback

perhaps they'll learn how to behave 😂

The resignation of American High Army officer is real or drama . Drama is required to work easily as American agent in any Country.

GOD HAS ALWAYS LOVED CHINA AND HAS ALWAYS BLESSED CHINA FOREVER. ✝️🇨🇳☯️🙏🙏🙏☯️🇨🇳✝️ ✝️ GOD BLESS CHINA ✝️

USA moves and sounds like United Snakes 😊

USA going crazy because they can NOT spy on China. 😂🤣

What China needs to do is : create BRICS military alliance, produce more nuclear submarines, produce more air force (with the help of Russia) - They need to attract more foreigners to live there just like the west pulls them - China needs to be more aggressive and active in creating more bases and military alliances and as well pushing its allies to work on their side, they are essentially the economic superpower.

America is losing.

By any chance Mr. Norton is the owner of Norton anti-virus software for PC aka Penal Codes?🤭?

We love you Ben. Please refer to Ben respectfully by his title. He is Doctor Norton. He holds a PHD. He is a scholar.

To understand US bully politics in the world, I highly recommend everyone to play the game "Empire Earth". Absolutely mind boggling how well it explains US politics in the last 100 years. Including its recent military move-in 6 miles from China. To the US everything is a game.

What's your hurry to be so unprofessional with such experience?! Stop rushing your guests.

Lui Xin, please let your guest finish their conversation. FFS stop interrupting.

చైనా ప్రభుత్వం నుంచి మనం కూడా చాలా వరకు ఉన్న సమయంలో ఈ ఘటన న ల ద్వారా వచ్చే విజ్ఞాన కేంద్రంలో జరిగిన సమావేశంలో ఆధారం చేసుకొని మంది చెడు ప్రభావం వల్ల రానున్న కాలంలో మరింత అభివృద్ధి చేసేందుకు కృషి చేయాలని కోరుకుంటున్నారు.

It's a pity that the US wasn't paying attention to the things it should have been paying attention to - including the Middle East !