As an Algerian, I speak both languages and Arabic, I never say it wrong, except in other languages.... But I try putting an accent when pronounce in Russian or Spanish things
literally lmao. i hear so many stories of people going to paris and speaking french with a bit of an accent, and a parisian seemingly thinks that it’s so unbelievably bad that they can’t even entertain it, so instead they respond in borderline incomprehensible english
This is why i stopped learning french. I got so mad at being told 'your accent isnt good enough dont bother' and 'learning french is not that hard' that i just dead calm said "your english is 'ow yuuu say? (ott accent)' shite."
@@heyysimone As someone french, I'm so sorry for how they treated you. Please continue learning our language, it's when you practice the most that you become better at it. No one's perfect first try And for those who said to you that french wasn't that hard, idk on what planet they live in but damn French is hard even for us 💀
@@heyysimone The ones mocking your accents are the ones limited to French and globbish, as a native French-speaker (not a Frenchie, never, I'm Belgian), I never criticise others' accent because GOD I know languages are difficult. Please if that makes you happy, keep learning languages, and come to Belgium, Belgians are little less of assholes (but you need to come in Walloonia)
French people will correct you even if you say it in french 99% accurately. I saw a stranger correct a native speaker’s pronunciation because they asked a question a little funny. This was their first interaction.
As an american I never wanna speak another language out loud I practice my Spanish at home because I'm scared ill be made fun of by natives. I've been called a gringo and white girl and laughed at for my pronunciation, and I just have to try not to cry
@@ChaotixKaida I speak Spanish and I'm english... maybe it's a continental difference but I've never had that experience in spain. They're super supportive in general. South Americans have a complicated history with "estadounidenses".
@@braddo7270 oh cool! I'd like to visit then. And I should have specified I'm north American and USA, I always correct people and here i am not doing it haha I'd love to meet someone who would encourage and teach me instead of making fun of and laughing at me :']
@@ChaotixKaida haha oh don't correct yourself for my benefit, I often make the same error! 🤣 but yeah you should visit! I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. They'd be super stoked to meet an American also!
Oh the french trying to translate anything to french. Actually thinking about it it spells out the same if it was in italian. Pollo fritto del Kentucky. But in Italy it's still spelled kfc.
@@enlilw-l2Hermes comes from the Greek word eremia which means desert (look at my second edit to see I was in fact wrong about this) or it comes from the Greek word herma which means stone heap. Either way it is Greek in origin, not Latin and definitely not French. Edit: I think some people are misconstruing what I’m saying. I’m not agreeing with the top comment, I was just correcting someone who said that the family name was French in origin when it was in fact Greek in origin. I think that once a word becomes a part of a language it should be pronounced how that language pronounces it. So the French can say Hermes their way and the Brits can say it their own way. I do think though that you shouldn’t correct someone else’s pronunciation of words like Hermes unless they themselves were pretentious enough to correct you in the same manner. Edit 2: I looked into the matter more and I realized I was slightly wrong. The word eremia is in fact not Greek but Old Provencal, which descended from Latin. Latin and Greek have a common ancestor language called Indo-European. I believe what happened is that the common root word emerged in this language, diverged to have a separate meaning in Greek and Latin, and then converged again to the name Hermes in both. Sort of like convergent evolution in animals, like when armadillos and pangolins both are mammals with an armored shell even though one did not evolve from the other though they do share a common ancestor quite far back that did not have armor although it was a mammal.
Actually, my 2 cent assumption, "we" don't want anyone to have an accent : not us in English or in other foreigner language, nor other native French-speakers in French neither non-French speaking foreigners in French. LOL Everyone has to speak perfectly including us in English, in our fairy tale ;)
I guess French people aren't exposed to second language speakers as much as Americans or English people are. Since, you know, French isn't the world's lingua franca anymore!
@@blank4305imagine our situation, we went in a 100years war against english peoples to finally see their language be the international one, we are very frustrated
Most people tend not to realize their own accents, especially if they haven’t gone gotten to hear other accents much. Everyone has an accent it’s just where you are born that changes which ones sound “off”
As a French guy I absolutely don't care at all about how my English speaker friends pronounce brand names. I even found it kinda cute actually. On my side, I'm really having a hard time getting rid of my accent wich I hate for whatever reason 😅
@@Aisndianeidnawbedja I would say so, for the most part. There are definitely some Americans to avoid, but most are cool, even friendly, as long as you are cool and friendly.
This is my french friend in a nutshell. I can't pronounce anything even remotely french even remotely wrong or he loses his shit, meanwhile his french accent is so strong when speaking English people can barely understand him. 😆😉😆
Maybe I'm in the minority, but someone saying american brands in their own accent doesn't annoy me at all. They are using the sounds they are used to to communicate. Maybe this kind of stuff is why everyone thinks french people are stuck-up.
You’re definitely not the minority. I think that’s part of the point of this short. Americans do not care at all. You’re more likely to get an “oh that’s interesting/funny” than “that’s so wrong!” when we hear how our brands are said in different languages. The video wasn’t about showing how “badly” the French mangle our brand names, it’s that they expect English speakers to put in effort that they never put in themselves.
Most people are like you. I personally don’t mind accents when I hear someone speaking English or Spanish (the two languages I speak). The French are just annoyingly pretentious about their language.
America already has a bunch of different accents. We'll notice them, joke and poke fun at them sometimes, but we don't care because it just doesn't matter. French on the other hand actually has an authority that determines exactly what each word means, how it's spelled and pronounced, and how they go together. There's a very strong idea of what "proper" french is. Just my guess
Yes I agree! What I’m mad about is French people hating the way us Americans pronounce words but they think it’s ok to pronounce American words badly. A bit hypocritical of the French tbh.
I would never guess that if I heard it, but that is exactly how I would pronounce it if I tried to read it in French. I think I'd just do a blank stare trying to figure it out if someone said that to me!
@jenniferpearce1052 I worked for Ford France, its a marque/brand they work with so heard it daily, younger me may have discretely asked a colleague early on. Slipped it into the conversation. 🕵♂️🔎
Correct. I had not thought about it, but yes I *do* get internally triggered when an American mispronouces our French brands (and yes, it's usually Americans let's be real, the British we get in Paris are usually upper class so they know)
@@sanityisrelativewhat?! I did not know that. All this time I blamed the French for not finishing the word when they say it but they got it from the Brits 🫠
@@sanityisrelative Yeah, the Brittish have a long and embarrassing history of trying to sound French, while simultaneously hating the French. Because it sounded too poor to pronounce things the English way, which funnily enough the Americans kept the original pronunciations.
The thing I love about language is these aren’t just mispronunciations, they are translations. There’s no right or wrong way to say these brand names, it simply comes down to what language you’re speaking. I teach English and my second language is Chinese Mandarin, and I always look up the translations of English brands because, and this is going to sound silly but, English and Mandarin are not the same language. 😅 So why do we expect someone who doesn’t speak English (or any other language) to say it with a perfect accent? Plus, there’s so many different sounds that exist in some languages but not in others. I find this topic so interesting!
My parents are French. They moved to Australia in the 60s. I heard my french speaking parents say "Computer" with a French speaking accent. Years later l found out that's not how you say computer in French, its Ordinateur.
You do know why, right ? Latin of course. When the original latin proto-French was germanized by the Franks, the last vowel was dropped orally, but out of respect kept in writing (tempus / temps / time). The English did the same with modern English too, actually.
Which is perfectly fine, but it's not Americans that think you're ignorant and disrespectful if you nativize the pronunciation of some random brand from our country. We might think it's funny or cute or odd but we don't see it as disrespectful. The French and Europeans in general seem to think it's purposefully disrespectful if everybody dosen't conform to their pronunciation and even accent.
@@lorblauh I assure you, this is not the European consensus. The french get stereotyped as unlikable over here too. As a Swede, my only gripe is the way a lot of americans insist on pronouncing the movie title "Midsommar". Ya'll say it like Mid-sohm-AAAARE, when you would be so much closer if you just said midsummer normally with an A instead of an E. It doesn't bother me because it's the american way, it bothers be because many americans think this way of saying it is the Swedish way. Which is hysterical. It drives me crazy. I'm pretty sure there are exactly one Swedish people that have an opinion on it though.
I can't say for the french, but as an Italian it drives me crazy how some of you pronounce some of the brands here. You could say the same how we pronounce your brands (we pronounce "Nike" closer to the UK way) but at least we make an effort to get as close as our language allows us to. For English speakers they mostly tend to do the same although for some brands it's completely off. Like it's not "vErsaci", it's VERSACEH. The e is pronounced kinda like the german "ä" lol
FOR REAL!! this one isn't even just the french. Europeans love to give americans crap for 'mispronouncing' words when its literally just our accent, and they do the same thing!
tbh i'd probably explain how "blahaj" (blåhaj) is originally pronounced to an english speaker who pronounces it wrong ... although i wouldnt fuss about a perfect swedish accent. like i'd just want them to know how Å and J is pronounced in Swedish. and i think it's funnier to pronounce it with English rules anyway
And then we have the Danes: Pøsjø (Peugeot), angtrekå (entrecôte), Sitruæng (Citroën), Kåjntrå (Cointreau), bærnæsø (béarnaise), såvnjånk blank (Sauvignon blanc) and sjempenjø (Champagne). Mon Dieu ! 😮😂
Meanwhile Japanese and American pronunciations are so different we often don’t know what we’re talking about without bringing up photos lol. It’s so different we can’t even judge.
I had a conversation with a francophone and she told me how much she enjoyed the English comedian Bénille. I had no idea who she was referring until I realised she was saying Benny Hill!
I’m not mad at Frenchie. I mean; I understood what brands she was talking about. Who cares if she spoke in her native accent. Why can’t everybody be more chill with accents
I still have PTSD from when I pronounced Chanel, and foie gras wrong in front of Ma professeur 😂. As a result I now have a Lily rose Depp accent when speaking french😂
If French people are allowed to pronounce American brand names in their accent then Americans get to pronounce French brands in an American English accent
I moved to a different state in the US when I was young and people mostly kids would tell me i pronounced a city wrong😅. My family has lived in the same state for awhile that now we joke that we can tell when someone is new to the state with how they pronounce a certain city name.😂
Ver-sails?😆😆😆 Friend of mine from KY did a student trivia thing in High School and was incensed when a competitor got credit for saying Ver-sails was the palace of the Sun King.
As a French speaking "quite decent" English, I knew what was coming next on the French side. Let's not forget Nike, Burberry, Gemey Maybelline, these are some French accent masterpieces! 😅😅
You just gave me flashbacks of my first attempts at speaking Japanese while in Japan. They were tolerant but the looks I got as I tried to say some of the words....
That's exaggerated, but yeah we tend to frenchise every foreign words, so do the Americans, and there is no problem with that. We might not understand the real prononciation of the brand because english prononciation makes no sense and is so complicated for us... and then y'all are spreading cliches about us, some people might correct u (because it's harsh to comprehend americanized words) but so would the American (I bet you'd not be avle to get the brand name we're saying...)
@axo_lolt4083 everything you just said applies to us too. French makes a whopping zero sense! I get rudely corrected all the time. I'm trying my best. Everything I say comes out with a texas twang.
@emilyhamby6057 Really? I guess the prononciation of our two languages are so distinct that it makes it complicated for both of us 😅 I personally find that englisch has the weirdest prononciation amongst german/latin languages, to make a sound you have to make hundreds of tongue moves 😭 german or spanish prononciation is so much easier for us
This is why I’m glad I’m a French/English Bilingual, but with no American accent in my French, and no French accent in my American, I don’t get yelled at lol
meanwhile germans are grateful to americans for even trying to speak german but gritting their teeth when they hear them still say adidas as "uh DEE duhss"
That was a fair one 😂, as French I can’t deny this one … although in the spirit of fairness I do correct my friends bad English …. Because it also make ears bleed 😂❤
As a French I feel this is super wrong, especially since most of the prononciations she went with are really good ones, and I don't know anyone vulgar enough to tell someone who is obviously a stranger "oh putain, tu vas me tuer" just because the pronunciation isn't spot on. Most of my foreign friends mostly complain that people actually don't correct them and then they keep pronouncing it "wrong" and feel terrible when they realize years afterwards and sometimes are like "why didn't you tell me ?", and I have to explain it did not matter to me, they were doing their best. I actually have a friend who very clearly stated she wished to be corrected everytime she got something wrong because she wants her accent to be flawless. It's a hard line to walk and everyone is different, but I really don't feel most people are like this (I mean, it is a sketch, but based on the comments people take this very litteraly)
Yep, same. I have a colleague, her English accent is so bad it makes the northpole ice melt. It's like fingers on a chalk board, I tell you it's so bad it is in-sane.
There’s a beauty in accents, so I dislike when people shame you for pronouncing it the way that is considered correct where you come from. If we understand what the other person means, I don’t see the problem personally. ❤
@@daykibaran9668 Oh god. People don't always know the correct pronunciation. So what? When people say English words incorrectly, I don't care, I find it charming. I appreciate that they're trying. I'm sure you pronounce words in other languages wrongly, too. And see how you didn't use the adverbial form of "different" to modify the verb "pronounce"? I don't care. I understand what you're trying to say. Sure, you wrote it incorrectly. But I appreciate that you're writing in a language that is not your first. So you're not going to be perfect. Perfection is overrated, anyways. In other words, chill out.
Even though the French girl's pronunciation is way off, it's incredibly cute to listen to. I would find ways to get her to say the brand names just to hear that cute accent.
That's exactly what French think about American too : broken jaw chewing a gum, then, bonus, add random nasal sounds and faked low voice to sound like a Hollywood star)
Well, as a German, I was forced to mispronounce our own brand names in England as a teenager. Nowadays I'd tell them to shut the fuck up but yeah... I think that's why people don't like English speakers mispronouncing their stuff. It might not always be Americans (often, too, tho) but it happens a lot. Even English speakers who have lived here 10+ years and don't speak conversational German and expect everyone to speak English all the time. I would if I had chosen to move there. But I didn't. I guess that's where this is coming from. You get defensive of your language after others disrespecting it for a while. Although the french are next level
Is that just English speakers that don’t learn German??? Because my grandparents (Chinese) have been in the US for 58 years and they have definitely not learned English. Makes me think that maybe you are being unfair to a specific subset of people when a lot of other cultures do that too
@@SarahDennaGerman people are very likely to speak at a conversational level in minimum one another language (English, Polish, Russian, French, Turkish are the most commun ?). And most German are less fluent in English than Swedes, Danes or Dutch. In fact all germanic people except... brits and even more US-guys. They are even worst and not curious at all than French and Spanish people who are bad but are trying to. Plus, it's mandatory since 20-30 years to speak 2, and 3 optionnally, other languages at school in France, and many countries in Europe.
@@neuroleptik121 that’s not what I asked. I didn’t ask if Germans learn English. I’m well aware they do. I asked if English speakers are the only ones moving to Germany and not learning German. Because I am well aware that east Asian cultures don’t do this as well.
