@@layediak147 idc if you're a messi fan bro lol that's your opinion messis up there as well alot of people only know jordan cuz of his shoes messis known because of his football
The truth is that Ronaldo fans only say that he is better than Messi but nobody have argument why. I'm Real Madrid fan i love Cristiano because of his concfidence, looks, skills but there is nobody close in football to Leo Messi, he is not only scorer but he make the whole team just better, everyone who know football know that, but not everyone will say it.
@@Hyp333R if Neymar took it serious and actually had a mentality like the goats he would be maybe even better than Ronaldo no joke call me delusional if you say
8:32 - Diego Armando Maradona He is an icon/legend of football all over the world, and yes he is from Argentina. Argentinians worshipped this man for many years because he had this extrovert type cool vibe and was proudly Argentinian. The reason Argentinians loved him so much is because he won them the World Cup, in dominating fashion. He was a GOAT. Fast forward 20 years later and Messi burst onto the scene. Messi obviously became the GOAT himself, but at one point his own people didn’t like him and were harsh on him. It’s because he couldn’t fill the shoes Maradona left behind. He was the best dribbler, assisted, scorer, playmaker, but none of that mattered to the Argentinians because he wasn’t winning titles for Argentina. Now, after winning them titles Messi is loved in Argentina just like Maradona is. You will see images of both Maradona and Messi whenever you go to Argentina. Some of them can’t decide who is better, but for most is Messi.
Yeah, I saw this first hand. But for every argentinian there was that complained about him, there were a thousand that loved him unconditionally. Sadly haters are often louder than fans.
In a relationship you fight,but never stop lovin.saw argentina with messi gettin beaten up many times at the worldcup and copa america,but never hated him.
I think (I'm not Argentinian) you have to emphasize "worshipped". Maradona isn't the Tom Brady or Michael Jordan of football (soccer). He's much more than that. He was a second coming of Lord Jesus himself. Although I'm not Argentinian, I tend to believe that as well. Now that's some big shoes to fill!
it depends on your generation (and also in your political ideologies). I am pretty sure Maradona is the GOAT. But you can say is Messi or Pelé. These are the 3 that are above all the others.
Reminder that when Messi won the world cup, he was like 35, which is pretty old for a footballer. Especially when you start playing pro at 16-17. He wasnt even in his prime when he tormented the Qatar World Cup. Young. Old. Hes a monster 24/7. Leo ❤
For people who knows football knows Messi is by far the greatest player ever in the history of football and it's not even an opinion anymore it's a fact!
17:13 Winning a world cup is the single hardest thing you can do in any team sport, there is no comparison jts that grand of a trophy and just improbably hard considering it only happens once every 4 years and the amount of teams participating
Real ones always knew Messi was the goat, but this World Cup was the defining point of the goat debate between him and Ronaldo, as Ronaldo doesn’t have a World Cup
Dude Messi alone didn't win the world cup it was team effort Messi can't play on his own he needs his team to play and on the other hand Ronaldo have done his hardwork and if you see Ronaldo has more influence than Messi Ronaldo has conqured multiple leagues unlike Messi who has played in one league
No hate for Messi but he only scores penalties and dribbles but Ronaldo is a complete player you want acrobatic goals Ronaldo can do it you want free kicks he can score it you want 40 yard screamers he can score can score in such way. If you are saying that Messi is at dribbling then Diego Maradona did it better than him but you won't find a complete player like Ronaldo
MESSI have more trophies, more individual trophy, most statistics, now he win the World Cup? Is not even debate anymore dude😂 Only delusional PENALDOG fans who hates Messi.💀
@@vengexgaming3801no entiendes nada sobre el juego, ser completo no es saltar alto ni ser fuerte, ser completo es bajar a crear juego, asistir, regatear, crear grandes ocasiones, marcar goles etc cristiano Ronaldo está muy por debajo de messi
Dude out here asking iwth a straight face who was Maradona. Being an argentinian you learn who Diego Maradona was along with your first words. He was the greatest of his generation, same as Messi is the greatest of his. Two of the most important players in the history of football.
yeah well hes american, that's like asking a european whos the goat of baseball is lol. It is nice seeing north americans learn more about this sport, tho.
07:53 The fact he has to point out that Messi is, in fact, just a human gives me joy. Not because he's right, but because he feels he has to point it out! But yeah, he's not.
in the past are many extrem good player, small example a striker who shot more goals in the national Team as he played games, 62 Games with 68 Goals called Bomber of the Nation not the best player but very effectiv, or the best and still the best argentien player of all time Diego Maradona who don´t need a gifted Worldcup win, he was the garanty for his team to win the Worldcup 1986. The Last Worldcup was Messis last Chance to win and the FIFA decided to gifted him the Title. Watch the Worldcup Final 2014 how bad Messi was or the Barcelona vs. Munich game with the 2:8 lost.
This video is more like for his fans, he could not achieve the last and biggest trophy in football world - World Cup, which plays on national team level, instead of club level, and it's happens once in 4 years. So you basically have only few times at best to play in this tournament. And after becoming the God of football, after winning everything that he could, he could not win this cup, he even once reached the final of the tournament but Germans were stronger. Ans in his last wourld cup, being 35 years old, he gave his everything to win this trophy, and he won. Like in the movie. Which officially made him the best football player ever. But if you want to really appreciate why Messi is good, then try to watch him in his prime, especially his dribbling, he has most effectice dribbling in football and it's definitely worth to watch for any sport fan.
Men's Football World Cup is the hardest tournament ever in the history of mankind to be won. Every 4 years, just a bunch of teams are able to compete. The best of the best, against every other. Short periods to recover, a lot of pressure and only 1 of 211 nations will rise.
"why do people not see him as a leader" - It's because he's shy, an introvert and he doesn't like to speak, if he has something to say, he'll do it on the pitch. He's arguably the greatest captain of all time tho, never before have we seen teammates who literally say they would "die for Messi". It's unforeseen and it's the result of him being, humble, kind, equal to everyone and also his playstyle on the pitch; not hogging the spotlight, instead lifting others up. Rather assisting than scoring etc. Unlike Cristiano, which is very visible in the way his Portuguese teammates treat him. "who's the bigger superstar? Messi or Ronaldo?" - Ronaldo. He's the more well known player, the one with more followers. While Messi is the better footballer, the greatest footballer in fact. As I said, Messi is more shy, introverted, focusses on his football. Ronaldo on the other hand drops a cold quote, does a viral celebration, .. every week. Ronaldo is also more of a "supermodel", with a sixpack and lots of cosmetic surgeries done. While Messi is all natural, not caring about looks, focussing solely on his football. In the footballing world, Mess is the biggest name. In the world? Ronaldo. "Who's this on the drum" - the person depicted next to Messi is Diego Maradona, before Messi emerged, the greatest footballer Argentina had ever known and one of the top 4 greatest of all time, only behind Messi, Pele and CR7, in that order. Messi & Maradona's playstyle is very similar. They're both small, focussed on dribbling, .. This caused Messi to be called Diego's heir since a very young ago, since he replicated Maradona's "goal of the century" in 2007 actually. This put immense pressure on a 17 yo Messi. And yet he surpassed him. That is everywhere but one place; the World Cup. The only competition that before 2022 eluded him. The same competition Diego won for his country with to this day, the greatest performance of all time. Which is why this cup was so important for Messi to win. And yes, indeed, Messi had not won the World Cup prior to this. It was the one stain on his career, the career of the man who won everything, multiple times at that. He was clearly the greatest of all time before this. Before 2021 even, where he won his first Copa America, but this basically shut up the greatest critics and if I'd have to slap a number on it I'd say 80% of the professional footballers/ ex players/coaches/commentators, .. are now in agreement he truly is the greatest of all time. Most of the people you'll find disagreeing are the ones with an emotional attachement to certain players, or the older folks, drowning in nostalgia.
8:35 Diego Armando Maradona. Argentinian which played in Napoli and became world champion for Argentina. After Maradona retired Argentina didn't won world cup. Unfortunetly he died. After his death Napoli win the league and Argentina world cup. I hope he watched everything from the clouds ❤
World cup is the biggest tournament in football. It only happens every 4 years, so players don't have many opportunities to win it. He got to the world cup finals in 2014 but lost against Germany. He got to the finals in several other important international tournaments but lost one after the other one and almost retired from the national team, until he decided to try ONE more time, and that was the last world cup.
MESSI have more trophies, more individual trophy, most statistics, now he win the World Cup? Is not even debate anymore dude😂 Only delusional Ronaldo fans who hates Messi.💀
The other man next to Messi in the photo is Diego Armando Maradona, still considered by many people to be the best of all time, today Messi has been his successor.
For most of us Argentinians wanted to be world champions, but even more wanted Messi to be. It was the same with Maradona when he was banned, we wanted for us, but more for him... the path of the myths, the tale that is always the same, the hero.... we love the talent that beats the strength, we love team coordination, but more the improvisation. We love our playmakers, Messi, Maradona (IMHO the GOAT), or Riquelme, Bochini and a long etc. These who have a 10 in their back. And when we admire a rival player... most of the time has the same number. (it is not exclusive in Brazil you have many numbers to chose to admire). But the 10, the one who thinks, the one more "habilidoso", the one who converts boredom into danger, discipline in creativity... "el enganche", is always the first to be evaluated.
I just came across your channel. Im happy that the people from USA are getting to know who he is. He is humble but fierce when it comes to play. And his talent along with the rest of the national team players they are unstoppable. I suggest you watch the last match against France during the world cup, just to experience the best final from all times.
Crazy thing about world cups is that it happens every 4 years, very difficult to win, and what was really special about this one was he was playing against his teammate Mbappe in the World Cup final, they both play for PSG together so this World Cup was crazy
14:15 You're absolutely right and I'd just like to add that its not only about your accolades but how hard you try. Give it your best shot, again and again!
We can say that Messi is the greatest of this century, he's a genius with an amazing career, but we can't compare him to Pelé (from Brazil), people tend to forget about the past and consider "history" the last 20~30 years. Pelé played 4 world cups and won 3 (1958, 1962, and 1970). Pelé has over 1000 goals scored in his career and according to FIFA he would have won 7 Ballon d'Or prizes but unfortunately at that time, non-European players were not eligible for the prize. Pelé is known as "Rei do Futebol" (King of Soccer) and is worldwide well-known. Messi is a beast, but we can't forget about the past. A lot of people say that "in Pelé's era soccer player's overall quality was not 'as good' as it is right now so it was easier to be good" but this also applies to the technology players have today. Back then, players didn't have these stratospheric contracts, nor 50+ people looking for them medical-wise, nor high-tech balls and cleats, or superfast medical treatment for bad injuries, etc. I'm from Brazil BTW, I didn't see Pelé play (obviously), and Messi is the greatest player I've seen play so far. But I still think that Brazil has/had some players who have more overall skills than Messi (to mention a few: Ronaldinho R10, Ronaldo Phenomenon R9, and Neymar) but Brazilian players usually don't have that long career, and on this matter CR7 and Messi are galaxies beyond.
11:12 thats gary lineker who played with maradona in the 1986 world cup (which maradona won by scoring his infamous hand of god where the referee thought it was a header but he actually used his hands and cheated to score a goal in the quarter finals against england but the goal he scored straight after was the best goal of all time cuz he dribbled THE WHOLE PITCH LENGTH and scored so he kinda still deserved to win that game)
the world cup is played every 4 years, and to win it its very difficult, only 8 countryes had won the world cup, since 1930. so its very difficult to win it, argentina only won two in the years 1978 and 1986. and we had yo waint to messi to win another one, and it was a real pain in the ass for him, bad coaches, bad teeam mates. but the story had a happy ending
Only one GOAT Cr7 messi 0: World cup : 1 0:wc golden ball: 2 5: ballon d'ors: 8 4:euro golden boot: 6 0: playmaker awards:5 0: laureus award: 2 5: fifa best:7 1:euro/copa:1 0:finalissima:1 0:U20 World Cup:1 0: Olympics:1 34: career titles: 43 5:UEFA CHAMP LG: 4 3:UEFA super cup: 3 7: League titles: 12 5: league trophies: 7 6: league super cups:9 5: league top scorer: 8 168:MOTM:314 829: goals: 810 235: assist:356 1063: g+a: 1164 149: penalties: 108 60: freekick: 65 64: outside box:92 890: keypasses: 1387 176: big chances:408 81: through balls:450 1675: dribbles:3091 146: header: 26 680: goals without pen:702 60: hatrick:57 28: hatrick without pen: 43 82: ucl KO g+a: 61 0: wc KO g+a: 11 22: g+a in finals: 49 Ronaldo's best year: 84 g/a Messi's best year: 113 g/a Even Messi's 3rd (90) and 2nd (96) best years are more than Ronaldo's best year Ronaldo has only headers, penalties, UCL with slight difference Other than that Messi is conquering everything Thats why messi is the GOAT NB: considered only european leagues and international.. and i respect ronaldo
REMEMBER RONALDO'S DREAM IS MESSI'S REALITY 👑 "winning WC" , "dribble past 5 or more players and score a goal", "winning more ballondor than ever" and "winning more golden boots" is dreams of ronaldo...if u are a follower of ronaldo u know that he said it...but still it remain as dream.. meanwhile GOAT completed those with less matches( 2year less career)
great vid my guy, the dude you asked the identity of was Diego Maradona, another GOAT from Argentina, he basically won the World Cup by himself on 86', he has the world record for more fouls commited TO HIM, in all world cups, something like 200 fouls, and the next plyer has 50, the only way to stop him was to kick him.
Messi is like Naruto, born with the main lead character destiny. Ronaldo is Sasuke, perfect, doing his best to shine, a prodigy.... but never the main character...always the sidekick.
That WC final was wild. I was happy to see him finally get it. As for him vs Ronaldo, depends on who you talk to I think. I personally like Messi more but both were/are great in their own rights
Ronaldo is more popular on the internet and especially with young kids because of his flashy goals and his personality, but on a worldwide level if you asked every human on Earth including those older people that dont use the internet much who they prefer I would bet my soul that the most popular answer would be Messi.
8:33 holy... there are people that dont know Maradona. I guess it's a generational thing, like teens getting to know old rock bands because of Marvel movies.
@@strongest32 Nah, i think this one is generational. I know who Michael Jordan is despite never paying attention or knowing the rules of basketball. But I bet if I ask some kids they might not know him
@@kairoz1352 Well the difference is Michael Jordan is mostly known because of Nike's marketing, not so much about his basketball when it comes to people outside NBA fandom.
back then, an audio was leaked of Maradona telling Pele that Messi was not a leader, Maradona got a lot of sh1t from that... but he was telling the truth... Messi was and is the best player in the world, buy he was not that guy... from there, Messi changed his mentallity in the 2022 World Cup, and he became the best ever.
The other guy that is in that picture is Diego maradona who played in the late 1900’s and also won argentinas last World Cup since messi. He was praised highly and was a role model to Messi growing up but died young in 2020.
Great video bro! The one with Messi on the drum is Diego Armando Maradona, the original GOAT. He won Mexico 86'. You should check him out! Cheers from Argentina!
Ronaldo is the biggest name in sports history cus he’s been crazy involved in brands and he’s played in multiple countries at the top level, messi is the better player in my opinion but more americans will know ronaldo cus he speaks english and has done more over there until messi moved there
15:11 the black guy is pele who won 3 world cups though back then the world cup was only 16 teams and most of his goals were in friendlies so people still say lionel messi is better
