I heard a story about an old woman who lived on the border of Lancashire and Yorkshire. She knew that there was a change in the border but she was confused. So she went to the post office to ask whice county she was in. On being told it was Yorkshire she said 'That's great, the weather's better in Yorkshire!'
Gotta give you props for 6:03 and your reaction to that weird 1970s banana thing. You got the power of silence - no words necessary - the speechless, facial expressions just conveyed it all 🤣
I saw him go back to that point, and I'm sitting here saying "Move On! Move On!" and then he said he was moving on. Seriously, 70s food experimentation was ridiculous.
@@Masque54 It's not as noticeable with Cavendish bananas, but with plantains and some of the other more natural species the flavour changes a lot depending on how ripe the fruit is. A yellow-peel plantain is sweet with a strong banana flavour, but when the peel is more green it's just a starch. So the pictured dish made with plantains is just a slightly odd version of "potatoes au gratin".
I live in Merseyside which was one of the counties created in the 70s, and I still sometimes hear older people complain that their home is no longer in Lancashire or Cheshire
Hi Yorkshire does exist. I live there. It's just government boundaries that changed. Its split into West Yorkshire and South Yorkshire and North Yorkshire. The government changed East Yorkshire to Humberside. But the people who live there were angry. So the local authority changes it back to East Yorkshire.
I used to live in East Yorkshire and we all refused to use/write 'Humberside' on letters. Even the council hated it and refused to use it [the north/Yorkshire side] on their letterheads. lol
Humberside was disgusting. People in grey suits, far away, interfering with people's identity. They said it wasn't a real county, just an administrative thing, and then they went back on that and treated it like it was an official county. It's thankfully gone now. I feel no affinity with the south bank at all; that's Lincolnshire.
The police, fire service and awful BBC radio station for old folk need to change their names. It’s been 27 years. (Not to mention the piddly airport in N Lincs)
I wasn't born in Yorkshire, but I have lived in East Yorkshire for many, many years and am just as proud to be Yorkshire as anyone who was born here, it's a beautiful county. My dad was originally from London and he loved Yorkshire and always said that the people were so much more friendly than down south. I was disgusted when it was changed to Humberside and, like everyone else here, I refused to use it, or write it on my address. We've got our proper name back now 😊
I'm an advocate of just restoring the historical counties and just using them. I'm from Lincolnshire, which doesn't have a changing boundary. It's largely stayed the same over all the changes
Map Men/Jay Foreman are always funny and informative. As a proud East Yorkshireman, I was appalled when the horror called Humberside appeared and I hated it, and still do as even though it was abolished in 1996 and the East Riding of Yorkshire was reinstated, to this date, I still receive mail addressed to North Humberside 😱😱😱😱 I put it back in the mail with instructions to return it to the sender marked as No Such Address and that seems to do the trick 😄😄
Todmorden is a town in Yorkshire but the county boundary has moved so often that the park gates have a white rose (for Yorkshire) on one gate and a red rose (for the dark side) on the other. Guess which side I'm on 😂
This is all true. It causes hostility and conflict. I live in North East. Historically the bondary between Durham and Yorkshire. Was the river Tees. But as exlained here since the 1960's The area i live. Has been called Teesside and Cleveland. Now it is even smaller areas. But. Many older people always see themselves as part of Yorkshire. And celebrate. Whilst many younger people do not consider this ares. Yorkshire. Some actually challenge the celebration of Yorkshire day. It can get hostile😮🤦♂️. Its a mess
I’m English and live in Anglesey and I understand the Welsh point of view, if you move somewhere you should try to adopt their way of life and language. I think the Welsh are great people and I’d love to be able to speak to people in their language, I actually Dont know why England Dont teach kids the Welsh language in schools seeing as we all live in the UK. Wales teach their children both which to me makes more sense but Nope, in England they teach us German or French instead. I’ve never even spoke to anyone German or French ever 😂😂
Jay Foreman's & Mark Cooper-Jones' videos are brilliant, informative and a HOOT! This one, from 13 Sep 2021, could be my favorite.💗 However, I have to slow down the videos. Their accent is one thing, but the their delivery is at warp-speed! 🤣
If you're from Yorkshire, you'll refer to the part of Yorkshire. I'm from West Yorkshire.. and don't really every consider North, South or East. I'm a Yorkshire man.. But definitely a West Yorks lad
we love our counties it took years to get rutland back to being a county i wish all americans would learn the proper pronunciations of our counties and cities like Birmingham we dont say ham its um
We get people from Yorkshire living here in Devonshire. They're always bragging about how great Yorkshire is, so I ask why they don't move back there. Total silence. It's so great, they moved here instead.
It is very unlikely that a Yorkshireman would move to somewhere like Devon by choice. Believe me, it would be eating him up inside. It happened to me. Moving from Yorkshire to Worcestershire for 9 years was difficult but I had no choice at the time. Moving back to God's own country eventually was the best day ever.
@@alanalderson1427 All of them were working people, so assumed they moved here for employment. But I never asked. The South West is a very desireable area though. Many move here.
@@antonycharnock2993 The Duke of Norfolk lives in Sussex too. I also always found it strange. But they are titles of Peerage, rather than titles given where the people live.
@@alanalderson1427So it was for financial reasons? That’s fine. But by bragging about it is implying that it’s better than where you moved to. If it was better you wouldn’t have had to move. The Irish are the same. I should know cos I’m from an Irish family. They reminisce about Ireland with tears in their eyes, but never set foot in the place again. 😂🤣🇬🇧
Joel, you don't need to cross a border to hear a different accent, said so many time before you only have to travel about 6 miles, I am old enough to remember the 1972 changes, I lived in Staffordshire and we were put in the newly formed West Midlands, my mom didn't like that at all, she thought is sounded low class 🤣 doesn't bother me, I have lived in 3 different area's of the West Midlands, I agree with you about that picture, Banana wrapped in bacon covered in custard! 🤢 I have never heard of that.
I live in North Nottinghamshire, half a mile from the south Yorkshire border. The police are Nottinghamshire The council is Nottinghamshire But my postal address is Doncaster south Yorkshire. This is because Doncaster had a huge Royal mail sorting office next to the train station. That was the closest sorting off to me.
Wow, that was really good. A question for our Brit cousins. Chatsworth House is the ancestral home of the Duke of Devonshire, but it's in Derbyshire; just up the road from where my lot hails from. So, why does Devonshire reside in Derbyshire? What's really odd to me is that it was the British Army's Royal Engineers, which surveyed what is now the Province of Ontario, leading to establishing 50 southern counties and 11 northern districts. Over the past 150 years, these divisions have withstood the test of time rather well. While there have been a few county amalgamations, the county and district boundaries are still firm and well defined - well done Royal Engineers!! Ontario is geographically larger that France and Spain combined, and England will fit into Lakes Huron and Superior with 11,000 sq kms to spare. I live in Simcoe County, which is about twice as large as Dorset. As Joel stated for counties in Maryland, counties and district in Ontario are important for taxation, school boards, and local governance. I suspect that Maryland's original counties were also surveyed by the Royal Engineers, back in the days of the Thirteen Colonies. So, it's really surprising that England's counties are such a muddle. Fascinating, confusing, and fun!! Thanks Joel. John in Canada
Of course it’s confusing, deliberately so. Our late Queens husband Prince Philip was also styled the Duke of Edinburgh without a drop of Scottish blood. That goes for all of the Royals and aristocrats. They were given land and the titles that went with the land. Crazy stuff. Game of thrones was pretty accurate unfortunately.
That peculiar banana dish at which you grimaced a bit is a 1970s concoction called Ham and Banana Hollandaise. It was first introduced in a recipe book called McCall's Great AMERICAN 🇺🇲 Recipe Collection 1973. So, ask your grandmother, Joel....don't blame the English!! 😂
In England, Local Authority boundaries are what have the big impact on things like schools, Social Services, road maintenance,rubbish collection, Council Tax etc, and so for most people that is what matters. I lived for 20 years in a town of about 10,000 people that straddled the border between 2 counties. This did cause some confusion for people who hadn't really got their head around it. The postal address for the whole town was one county, but the postcode (zip code) referenced a town 20 miles away in the other county. Although the schools most children attended were in one county, if they needed any specialist support it came from whichever county they actually lived in, and if they didn't get a place in the local school, the alternative would be desigated by the county they lived in, not ncessarily the nearest school. If you understand the system it's actually straightforward- but many people just don't.
each county has its own police force if not its metropolitan force. There are 650 Westminster MPs seats in all UK, these are also sub divided into constituencies and wards in each county or borough, or islands and the unions have their own systems of devolved admins. it all adds up to one big happy family🥴
In America, everything is more spread out, there is a lot more space for borders to be straight and states to be large. The UK has just under 70k residents and so it's a lot more condensed, with every single piece of land being used and owned by someone, so the counties and areas are smaller and more broken up to help organize the carnage... creating a different kind of carnage...
As a kid, I grew up calling my county 'Cleveland'. My parents taught me that was our postcode, my teachers did, all the way through to secondary school (which I left in '09). It wasn't until about 2010/2011 that my town officially adopted 'North Yorkshire' as our county. But to this day, when I try to buy something and I have to put in my postcode, if I can type it I'll put Cleveland, if it's a drop down, sometimes it still has Cleveland on it (although this isn't as frequent now as it was even 4-5 years ago). Cleveland was never 'unpopular' as they're suggesting. It's what we knew, and it's only really the newer generation (probably those under 25) who won't recognise it.
Yeah we still use Cleveland I don’t know if it’s still talking about the same area or a bit different but in school when competing in things like cross country we would be representing ‘Redcar and Cleveland’. Also when filling in forms and stuff I never know wether to put Redcar and Cleveland or North Yorkshire or Yorkshire, I just randomly pick one and hope it’s right.
I think it was ham rather than bacon and covered in a hollandaise sauce. I would say I loved the food of the '70s, but I can't remember most of it. But Rainbow was great, Geoffrey.
I was born in the Land of the Prince Bishops!! Co Durham then we got moved into Teesside then we got moved again into Cleveland before we went back to the start again the Land of the Prince Bishops
It makes sense now why I never know what to write when a questionnaire asks me what county I’m from, I’m sat there for about 5 minutes wondering wether to write North Yorkshire, Cleveland, Redcar&Cleveland or just Yorkshire.
8:48 Jps being Brutal on Wales. Ouch. Only because he hasn't visited there yet. Hopefully next year - Wales, Northern Ireland, Ireland (republic, south)
Given how passionate Yorkshire folk are about being... Yorkshire folk, I don't know if it's being incredibly brave or incredibly stupid to suggest Yorkshire doesn't exist! I nearly spat my (Yorkshire) tea over my (Yorkshire) pud in indignation!
I learned something new from this I don't know any of this but when ugly town came up seriously that's so funny being from England myself I didn't know any of this information which is crazy
You've been to our gorgeous Yorkshire and nodded about anyone who is from Yorkshire is proud and will tell you lol. So glad you've had some time here :)
Living in North Somerset is a right pain. The county lists on websites to fill in your address are a nightmare. They usually give you Avon which doesn’t exist now or you have to choose Somerset which isn’t right either. Sometimes there’ll be Bristol which is closer to the truth but it’s a mess. I think Bath & NE Somerset have the same problem.
Well that was clear as mud. I didn't know how they kept changing the names of geographic areas so much and so recently. Madness. I liked these guys though.
I currently live in historical Somerset My part became Avon in 1972 Then North Somerset in the 90s If you wrote North Somerset under the village on post then it took an extra day to arrive! Bristol was the main sorting centre, if you wrote Bristol it arrived quicker. One of my teachers started the “back to Somerset” campaign in 1972 As lots of people were very angry that the borders were changing.
lol, county boundaries change over time. I live in Tyne and Wear and south of the Tyne it used to be part of Durham. North of the tTyne used to be part of northumberland
I lived in a town that was amalgamated with the town next door. We were in one county then moved to another, now a unitary authority 😠 Who says we don't mind?
Yorkshire used to be the largest county in the UK. The government has tried to split it up. We had the largest industrial manufacturing in the UK and have some of the largest city's after London. I was born in North Yorkshire and still live in Yorkshire, whether they want to try and call it something else. Like Teesside or Cleveland.
It is a bit confusing. Like, where I live, our Metropolitan borough is North Tyneside, our Metropolitan County is Tyne and Wear, the Region is the North East, but our Historical County is Northumberland
I grew up in the East Riding of Yorkshire & remember "Humberside". The local radio station is still named Humberside as is the police authority. What's that all about?
I’ve always lived in Northamptonshire (since age 2) but in one village the postal address was Oxfordshire. Our local council has been South Northamptonshire until recently and now we’re West Northamptonshire. Incidentally I still don’t really know what ‘area’ I’m in as we’re sort of South East/Midlands but I never know which one to put on forms etc.
Yes Yorkshire exists I live there,they changed it years ago to stupid Humberside,but it changed BACK to Yorkshire over 25 years ago but people and firms insist on still calling it Huberside which makes me mad,yes our Police and Fireservice are still called Humberside Police and Fireservice because they cannot aford to change all the vehicles back again,you'd think after 25 years they could aford it, ah well those inpower know best
I hated the way that London expanded in the mid 1960s taking parts of other counties including Bromley (Kent) and Orpington (Kent).......as far as i'm concerned they still are in Kent.
I love the weirdness of our counties, I grew up in a village in one county with a postal town in another and a postcode in a 3rd. Even now my address covers 2 counties 😂😂😂
The town I live in is Greater Manchester, but of coarse its really Lancashire as 1972 doesn't count. That said my town became a Borough in the 1890s before which it was spread between three counties, so they moved it all into Lancashire, the bit I live in was formally part of Yorkshire. You have identity options!
Due to the conservative party trying to change voting boundaries, i managed to live in lancashire,then cheshire, then lancashire again without moving house....ps...i grew up in Salford which is in Greater Manchester but not in manchester🤔
Were I am we are lucky - we have always been County Durham through all the different changes although Darlington just down the road is (or was?) a Unitary Authority
God, well Warwickshire has Warwick District, Stratford District, and Rugby (i think), Nuneaton etc 😂😂😂 all called South Warwickshire, North Warwickshire, Mid Warwickshire... and although Coventry is IN Warwickshire it's a city, so the whole thing is called Coventry & Warwickshire, though the powers that be DID try and call us Greater Birmingham hahaha.... get out of town. All about budgets 😂❤ xx
Joel, your arch nemesis Connor did this video over 2 years ago, now if your confused just imagine Connor's fried brains 😂😎 after he watched it. Ok,ok guys just kidding you'll (said in my best Deep South USA accent) Cheers DougT
Connor's Joel's "arch nemesis" ...?! What's that all about ?! I couldn't see two years ago due to cataracts (which were only removed this June & September) so I must've missed that...😮❤️😊🖖
Is it complicated? yes, is Britain small? yes. But most of the changes in England are governance of a population of just over 55m people. That is one 7th of the US population squeezed into England's borders. A lot of focus on Yorkshire but no focus on Cornwall who some believe to be a 5th nation of the UK rather than a county in England. Property taxes in the UK are set at Local Authority level some of which, such as Northamptonshire, are set on county boundaries. Also we have a South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire Mayor.
Yep, Rainbow 🌈 will go straight over your head, quite naturally, children’s television from the 70’s and much beloved, Also an amusing anecdote and timely interjection 😂
