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"I played in Serbia, brother. I wish you guys could feel that." Despite the build up, Nikola Jokić called this just another game: "It's always nice to play in Miami."
I've been to NBA game once in 2018 (Pacers vs Lakers). I was shocked how many poeple were not even interested to watch the game. Some of them left after 30 mins, some of them were constantly walking, talking over the phone, buying more and more food. I felt like I was the only person who actually followed the score... And there was absolutely no verbal support from fans... weird experience.
Totally agree. Quite sad in many ways since many parents doesn’t feel comfortable with taking their kids with them. Which means often it’s harder to get an interested younger generation.In Sweden it’s especially in football but in other sports too.
To be fair, this kind of basketball culture is mostly the Balkans: Southern Slavic countries, Greece, Turkey, etc. Would be lying if we pretended it was like this everywhere in Europe. You have hardcore supporters in the rest of Europe too, but football then tends to be the more dominant sport (generally speaking, of course).
@@pacoagullesestrada2497 ¿No lo dirá por España? Porque el estadio del martín Carpena en Málaga se cae cada vez que hay un partido del Unicaja. Lo que no he visto son altercados en ningún sitio como en el futbol.
Its the turks, serbians and the greeks that are this passionate. Their football ultras watch the basketball too. Brits couldnt care less just like with american football.
@@DaGuys470 Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, should form a common league, 4 clubs each nation, a 20 clubs league, were the club with the last points of each country on the league, are depromoted (4 clubs per nation protection). In that way, that 4 artic nations can have a more competitive league, to build more and better talent to that 4 nations at the same time, because only talent competition allows to build more talent. The baltic super league. And because its only 20 teams, the ones with more points goes to UEFA competitions, no matter nation of the club (full meritocracy). And on the UEFA league ranking, be the baltic super league for that 4 nations, so how stronger the clubs become more rise on the UEFA leagues rank to define UEFA competitions entry numbers.
Brits don't care about basketball because they suck at it. Spain here, a little calmer than our Balkanic brothers, and without the flares. Because we can't enter them at the court...!!!!!!
Why would you mention Brits? The only sport they care about is football and there's only a small percentage of actual Brits who play it (less than 35% in Premier League). You hear about all nations in the world being a part of any sports. But someone from UK could only be recognized in an individual sport such as gymnastics or running. No sense in mentioning them on a team sports video... If you want to see loud Brits, go to a peaceful island (outside of UK) and enter any bar
@@jeromeoberli471do you actually think there’s no murder and mass killing in europe? what is this comment bro , you do know there’s literally a war happening right now in europe .
Fun fact. At <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="366">6:06</a> it's Red Star Belgrade in Belgrade Arena. The construction of the arena started in the '90s but had to be stopped due to international sanctions and lack of money. When they resumed the construction in early 2000's the whole crew working on it changed and they had to stop the work again because they realized there was a big design flaw. When designing the stands the original architect and engineers forgot to calculate into the structural integrity of the stands the force of thousands of people not sitting but jumping up and down in unison. So they had to additionally reinforce the foundations of the building and add more support columns for the stands.
Cheerleaders aren't used very much in Europe in any sport. They're considered a bad value and example for young girls. Cheerleaders promote the body and exterior values. There are lot of associations that fight against these form of using the female body as an attraction
Who needs cheerleaders when you got the passion of an entire crowd? I did actually have classmates who did cheerleading but it was more like a performance art rather than cheering people on
I think one of the most recent examples of it being done away with was pit girls for Formula 1. And this was even while it was under US ownership. I kinda don't mind it existing. It's a job. Ring girls in fighting, pit girls, cheerleaders, all of it. If you really can't accept it any kind of modeling as a whole is just as much to blame. I did have a girlfriend who was a model 10 years ago. She was modeling while studying law on the side. She ended up not using her law degree till she was in her mid 30's. EDIT: I will add though. When it gets sexual, like X-rated, I don't support that. Some girls can handle it, but most at the very least has a crushed self-esteem after. Not ok.
You have to understand that we are with our club for EVERYTHING sport they are. I am a Barcelona fan and even if is Waterpolo or a sport I have no idea what if my team is there we cheer like our live depend on it
They asked Luka before playoffs:"How will you take on fans,...., the atmosfere,... in NBA playoffs?" Answer was:"I played in Euroleague, in Belgarde, Greece,...., here is no presure"
I was in Greece when the Greek national football team won the European Championship (2004). Unfortunately, my camera broke down, so I have zero tangential memories, but oh... my...Zeus! I'll never, ever forget the atmosphere during the game, and after they won. For hours and hours, cars rode in a colonnade with flags and horns. Others were using fireworks, and people were embracing everyone, bars handing out drinks. I'm therefore not surprised they go so crazy for basketball as well. They're passionate people and really hospitable (though I'm a tad biased, as most of my nicest memories took place in Greece. I'm a huge Grecophile, and the only reason I've not emigrated is because of my health and wheelchair use). Dutch fans go crazy over football a lot. Their own national teams and when "Oranje" is playing a World or European Championship. My dad has been a long-time member of the Oranjevereniging (Association for Orange Supporters, i.e the Dutch football team), which means he can often get tickets for Championship games and I've been to a few important ones as a result. The atmosphere is often amazing and friendly too. Dutchies aren't exactly chauvinists, but during international sporting games, that absolutely changes. Skating (speedskating on ice) is another sport where temperatures rise in the stadium.
Everybody in Greece was watching those finals. Even my mother in law who never has given a damn about football 😂 I live on a Greek island and people were celebrating for days here.
It always seems to me that Americans see sporting events as a kind of family outing: you just go, sit around, eat and drink and chat. You rarely see/hear support for the teams... Like a barbecue, relocated to a sports arena 😆 Beyond that, it's more about presenting yourself as a good patriot while constantly singing the national anthem (which is pretty strange for me as a German ^^)... In Europe, on the other hand, it's not about presenting yourself - here the support is completely for the team! The fans are passionate supporters of their favorite club and show this loudly and enthusiastically. If you ask ME: in America it's about the money, in Europe it's about passion...😊
That's the thing, we go nuts for just about any sport. A lot of us even support teams that haven't had a solid win in years, and we still turn to games in our strips, with flags, flares and face paints. Just because your team can't play, doesn't mean we're not going to have a good time. In fact, a lof of the times, the worse your team plays, the louder the fans sing.
We is a bit of an overstatement. Brits certainly dont. Rugby is extremely tame. Same with cricket tennis even football is over commercialised with no flares etc
@@pacoagullesestrada2497 The Irish play cricket and rugby. The Dutch play cricket. The French and Italians play rugby. Are they not European either? And handball? Ha ha ha ha ha!
@@mehallica666 los alemanes juegan al cricket??🤦♂️ Los franceses, son franceses y los italianos son hermanos. Pero nos sentimos parte de algo grande y ustedes, si no manejan los hilos, no quieren formar parte de Europa. Nunca han querido. Cuando hablan desde UK, dicen que viajan a Europa, no sé sienten parte nuestra. No pasa nada. Ustedes se bastan solos y a nosotros nos gusta la comunidad. Un cordial saludo
No offence but the US fans are lame in almost every sport, even one of their own like basketball. The constant playing of national anthem at club games is weird,its only meant to be for internationals. The atmosphere is cringe worthy, all tannoy induced hand waving and pom poms to Sandstorm or We Will Rock You. The cheesy guys in the suits dancing was embarrassing
I had two thoughts as an european, first: the bench engineer, test the benches in Europe before they send them in the USA, if they can handle europeans fans, they could handle USA's fans without flinching second: I saw the USA's fans and I tought that, yeah, they're nice, that cute. Then I saw european's fan and I thought, Now, we're talking! That's how fans need to act! That! is support!
Multiple ex NBA players have said Euro league is a million times more intense. Luka Doncic played in euroleage at 17 and said that nothing in the NBA could ever feel as pressurised as euroleague.
US franchise teams might be associated with towns, but the "build us a new stadium or we move out" is definitely a thing. And that's something that would NEVER fly in europe. People defend their sports clubs because those are their town's sports clubs. And those clubs usually have teams in a plurality of sports, even some that anyone can try and join. And even the biggest of "football" clubs usually provide the same to the locals. Any local kid can go and try to get in a football giant young team. So, the connection between the people and their clubs is definitely different around here.
Don't we always? USA has some good things, but it feels artificial compared to anywhere else. They can't even celebrate in sports without music over loudspeaker, where as in Europe you probably won't hear the loudspeaker because people sing.
Back in 2023 I tried to watch that Superbowl thingy, I really did. This is what I posted on Facebook at the time: It's a game the Americans call "football" except they very rarely kick the ball. They play it in 4 quarters of 15 mins which take ½ hour each to play where they interrupt the adverts to show 2 teams of players in coloured armour cuddle each other and a guy throws a ball away in case he gets cuddled too. They keep talking about fences, a D fence and an O fence... but I never saw any fences at all. Oh, and they need to have a word with that team in the black and white stripy strips who keep tossing their hankies onto the field, it's very unhygienic. There was some lass doing a turn at half-time, but I couldn't for the life of me tell you what she was singing, except she seemed to have forgotten her brolly, fortunately it wasn't raining. Then the presenter guys started to play a game called, "Stats", a bit like Scrabble but they use numbers instead of letters and the person who says the biggest number is the winner. I gave up and went to bed when the last ½ hour 15min quarter started so if anybody knows how it ended, you obviously turned on the telly to check the weather before heading out to work, please don't bother to let me know, I'm engrossed in watching some paint dry and the excitement level compared to watching the Superbore is griping.
Here in europe and around the world, excpet USA, we have clubs. We live clubism. And each club play one or several professional sports, under the same flag, under the same supporters. And between the fans we have the club members that pay taxes and elect the club government, and the normal fans that only whatch the game and cheer on cafe or stadium. 80% of the european population in all nations, are a fan of a club, for life.
Except Betis fans who, when are very old, become partners of Sevilla for when they die one of Sevilla dies. Seriously, it is a very old joke of the Betis-Sevilla rivalry. I mean soccer, not basketball.
@@ricardoxavier827 The Anglo -Saxon (Yankees and British) tell football to three sports, the football of a lifetime (soccer), rugby and what they call American football, which is the only football that the Yankees know. And for your information I am Spanish and I call him soccer so that he knows what I speak. In Spanish it is called "futbol", "rugby" y "Futbol americano".
@@archibaldhadock5811 And we should call USA Football (or USA rugby) because all nations between canada and argentina are americans. We should not accept USA to steal the word american from the other american nations. They need to change their culture and start to respect the other nations. The same way we must stop saying spanish language and start to call the true name that are castellano. Spain has 5 languages. Spanish are not a language, are just the madrid empire name.
It has lost a bit on actuality in recent years for the specific club, but there is the expression "you're not a Feyenoord supporter for fun". The club chose you and now you have to support, put the effort in. Synchronization is simply getting in sync with the person next to you and when everybody does that it works out automatically. The Greeks feel entitled to be the maddest of all.
US fans aren't really fans, they're more consumers, clients. Sports to them is a form of entertainment, something you go watch. These European fans are supporters. They go to support and root and chant and cheer for their team.
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jeus how many times a year u guys sing the national hymn? seems like brainwashed scam
In my country we mostly sing the national anthem during international sports competitions. I also don't remember the entire song. I just know we're singing about how pretty our country is and that we wanna live and die here
@@samiibanez1868 its pointless to have a national anthem when both teams are from the same country.. its nationalistic propaganda just like the pledge of allegiance..
In the UK, it's mostly at international football matches with the international team, there are other events but for the most part, we don't sing it that much, so much so that I don't know all the words to it and I bet many others don't know them as well lol, it's not really that big of a deal. As for the US, you get the impression they sing it at ever chance they get, and it does come across as extream brainwashing by the system. But seriously, most of us have pride in our own country, but we don't need the system to constantly drum it in to us with flag waving and all that, it's brainwashing and cult like in a world where the country should earn our loyalty by treating us good throughout life, not automatically given it by conditioning.
@@paul1979uk2000 You don't know the few words of the British National Anthem? Being British yourself? Actually very simple: God save our gracious king (queen until Sept. 2022), long live our noble king, God save the king. Send him victorious, happy and glorious, long to reign over us, God save the king. Well, as far as the first verse goes, which is in most of the cases all you need to know and sing along to. I'm German, btw. and know the words by heart.
Those crowds (in the second example for Europe) sang the "Grand March" (also known as "Triumph March"), at least partly, from Guiseppe Verdi's popular opera "Aida". Yes, opera for fan chants, you heard that right. Europe!
The first European team on display was Aris Thessaloniki (Greece), then Red Star Belgrade (Serbia), then PAOK (Greece) All of these teams are sports organizations with multiple sports, such as soccer or water polo. So it is normal for most fans to attend all of their club's games as much as possible, as they are not only interested in one sport. One must not forget that in Europe a team (or in this case organization) represents a city, a district, a political orientation or a religious background. It's a shame that the Turkish or Croatian teams weren't shown in the video, but it's ok. They are just as passionate about their team as the one shown. Ajde Zvezdo!!! ⭐🌟⭐🌟
When I was in the US, I went to Pittsburgh to watch a NHL game. I was extremely surprised by the total lack of vibe in the arena... People were clapping or chanting, yes, but only when asked to by a giant screen. In Europe, it's stadium ambiance all the time, it's crazy :D I've been told that when american players came to Europe during an NHL strike, they also where amazed by the crowd.
Oh, that video is actually quite old. By now, Basketball has become real huge in Europe. I think in Germany it's the second or third most popular professional sport (if Handball is still no.2). I mean, have you seen the Olympics this year? USA barely won against France. And the european teams made the americans struggle hard.
@@wietholdtbuhl6168taking a wild guess and assume you are form the us? you are the OLYMPIC Champions.great job! but the current WORLD Champion in basketball is Germany😅😉
Seeing the american examples felt pretty weird. All those light shows and the loud music and the fans watching some special clowns in order to find out, if, when and how it is appropriate to be cheerful ... I´m not even in to watching sports games, but seeing this, I felt sorry for the american fans, who did not even get a chance to become really passionate, because there was no space for that with all that show of organized pseudo passion. Everything obout that communicates to the crowd: You are here as passive consumers.
In Greece each football club has their basketball club which carries thd same name. So, naturally you support both with the same passion.Thats why you see that kind of devotion for basketball😊
I went to a Football Match on 22nd of May which was a Saturday and we were so loud that I couldn't hear properly in my left ear until the Wednesday. I still have Tinitus in my right ear and this game was played in 2004!
I think it's mostly Greek basketball fans that are so hyped up in europe :D It's common to see this on football games all over Europe and these kind of fans are usually separated in a different zone in the stadium so children and elderly can come watch the game and feel safe.
@@dusanbajsanski6987 you are absolutely right, all of them have amazing fans... I think one difference between these countries and Greece is that in most of them there are two or three clubs with crazy stadium atmosphere and the rest are more chilled while in Greece there are easily 6 clubs whose fans can and will produce displays such as the ones shown in this video. I could just be ignorant though
What is with the anthem and american flags all the time? Major North Korea vibes going on. Here you only hear anthems when different national teams compete against eachother in some world championchip of some sort. Never during regular league matches.
@@petrpinc7695 BS, if youdon't like it it is your problem, in basketball games in Slovenia almost allways sing national item. Hitleryungend stuff... what a idiot
At football(soccer) games here in Denmark, stadiums are fined $40k if they don't manage to confiscate roman candles as it can be a health hazard. I can imagine the rules would be even more strict in an indoor stadium.
Please do not put word soccer to word football at all. It is offensive to the vast majority of the world,especially us Eurpoeans and South Americans. There is only one name for the game wich u play with ur foot, FOOTBALL .
@@AtotehZ I perfectly know what footballl is and that other sport which they call football is rugby with helmets. Get it now? Dont be debil and pretend that game has proper name for it.
@@AtotehZ That is not soccer ,it is FOOTBALL. The game which they call football is RUGBY with helmets and protectors. Stop being debil pretending that u dont know what is football and what is rugby.There is no soccer ,it is FOOTBALL.
@@AtotehZ FOOTBALL is a game where you use FOOT or FEET to play it .Version of the game which they call football is RUGBY with helmets and protectors. Get it now????? No soccer just FOOTBALL !!!!
Watch an ice hockey game in Germany . That is atmosphere. When the Handball worldcup was hosted from Germany , one match had over 50 000 people watching . Btw Germany is the world champion in Basketball . Have you watched a Volleyball match at the Olympic Games ? The world isn’t only the USA . As the saying is in Europe , the Americans are dreaming their American dream, the Europeans are awake and live the full live .
Um, if I remember correctly, we (Europeans, and esp. Greece) invented sports and especially the competition in it. Greetings from Berlin. Like your videos and your channel. Keep the spirit!
Imagine being Giannis, Jokic, Luka.... you are a kid growing up in a small Balkan country, a kid that in each and every passing day is becoming abnormally good at playing this sport that was invented in America..... You in fact become so good at it that you end up going to USA and within a few years you dominate the best league of the world, you become a world icon of the game and you make so much money that, if you wanted, you could go back in Europe and literally buy any team in Euroleague and not make a dent in your finances.... and when journalists ask you anything in regards to pressure, fan support or anything of that type you never miss a chance to inform them that Europe was in fact, on a whole different level of it's own on those matters. They are literally the main characters, I tell you 👏🙌 Idk if there's a single European basketball fan who doesn't love these guys
Your Baseball was important in Romania 100 years ago and it was called OINA! I am convinced that 99.9% of Americans don't care about it, but they are very proud of their game!
To be a good basketball player you have to know how to dance, sing, run and love your your team - not steroids. And in the South, we grow up doing those right things ❤
The economic assessment is a true. MY club is literally MY club. It has been in my city for 120+ years, we the supporters own it, we compete in multiple sports, train our own youths, in all age groups, for both sexes. An American "team" is just a billionaire's plaything, that can be bought, sold, and moved. Of course that changes how people relate to these organizations. College sports are the closest Americans come to the European model, and the crowds there are usually a lot more passionate than the "pro team" crowds.
I like the US national anthem. People want to believe in it too, but the abuse didn't go unnoticed by them either. In Europe, sport is more rooted in local patriotism. my City! my Region! The supporters are also often members of the Sportclubs which is an another big diffrence to private owend Teams in the US.
I believe that you put the anthem in Spain would be very conflictive because there are many regionalisms and that without talking about Republicans. Note: There are three hymns, the Republican (Himno de Riego)," Himno de los tercios" of the Ausburgo and "Himno de Granaderos" of the Bourbon Monarchy and the Officer. To that add those of the different autonomous communities and the apocryphs such as "suspiros de España" to understand that it is better to put the hymn of the team or even better not put any. Himno de Granaderos: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GWCldYPEsl4.html Himno de Riego: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MQO-jiEdNg0.html Himno de los Tercios: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WAMkb6QgyMs.html&pp=ygUUaGltbm8gZGUgbG9zIHRlcmNpb3M%3D Himno De Cataluña: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XclwgTmcGcE.html Suspiros de España: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o-eYa-v5gHA.html
I followed my city’s hockey team for 5 years. It was an incredible time. When an entire stadium of 10,000 people is singing-whether it’s the Ultras, the die-hard fans, or even those who aren’t as dedicated-and they all join in unison with the chants from the supporters’ section, with flags and scarves raised high, it’s insane. It gives you chills. And the derbies and playoffs are pure madness.
Basketbal has been growing bigger for quite a while in europe now. Ised to be really popular in the balkans and greece mostly. But now it is spreading around the entire continent..
European clubs were created on the basis of associations, which means that clubs are part of the city where they were created, they can't move to another place like professionnal franchises. So a club really represents their cities, and if you add to that the weight of History, the historical rivalries and the passion we are able to live it gives you what you are watching. Like you said it's closer to war than entrrtainment
In Europe, the people bring the music and entertainment. In America, they have to have music over loudspeaker and it's more of a show to try to sell you things. As an example, super bowl is 80% commercials. It's just a market tool.
In United States the audience is like a cashcow, money and nothing more In the rest of the world the audience is part of the game, money are important but the passion and the fact that you are a part of the game is the difference. You can't move a basketball team, in Italy for example, so easily how you can do in US and, in the rest of the world, your team can go to the minor championship if it is at the bottom of the classification. All this realize the fact that fans are the 6th player on the field...and it's true.
I live in Europe in the Balkans, for us every match is an escape from reality and an experience for yourself, it's not just about having fun, most of our clubs are connected with the people and personal experiences, it's something like a sanctuary and when you come to the match it's like you've arrived to the temple, it is something that cannot be described, you have to come to see it to feel it!
Yep, I can confirm, that's how it is in Greece... First team is from Thessaloniki and I actually blushed when I heard what they were chanting! It's mostly insults and swear words to the other team rather than support to their own! Third team is from Athens playing opposite Barcelona. It always gets wild, especially against big teams, foreign teams, the semi finals, the finals... basically always! 😅
US sports need a lot of attractions beside the actual matches like cheerleadres, kids play areas, stupid games on the sidelines etc. cause the matches itself are often just boring and lack atmosphere..
Imagine the opposite shock now. I'm from Serbia and I always assumed that this is the norm. And then when I first time saw how americans cheer, I was honestly shocked that game can be that quiet ahahahahha 🤣
The Aris clip, Their ultras are Super 3. Is that there was a black out due to a lightning strike, so that's "we need to do something to keep the mood on while they fix the lights energy."
The biggest difference between America and Europe on this matter is that in America the clubs from one department for example the Chicago Bulls only have a basketball team! in Europe, however, each club has from all sports such as Olympicos football, Olympicos basketball, polo, volleyball, etc. in men and women!
The atmosphere is crazy because most of these fans are coming from football. You see, in Europe a lot of football clubs would also have their basketball counterparts - so the fan base is practically shared. The first highlights shown was from the Greek team ARIS Thessaloniki - the same as their football club.
The first one <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="185">03:05</a> is from Greece, Thessaloniki, Aris team (the name is literally taken from the Greek God of War, so you're right about "preparing for war"). You really do not want to know, in the one you are vibing to, what they are chanting about the other team's fans ("your daddy is a fan of Aris"). There are tamer ones, like "I got a paper from a shrink for you, I will always go where you go". Generally it is a crazy experience, but it's just people being passionate, without all the sterile discipline and censorship used in other places. So, yes, people in Europe party, dance, drink, go to bars, go to sports, blow off steam and then go back to their life peacefully and don't come at each other with guns on the street. It's healthy to just let go for a bit.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="309">5:09</a> - that's the catch. Many of the clubs here are multisport, so these are the exact same people who go to football, basketball and whatever else the club is playing. Those you are looking at are Aris Thessaloniki fans. The Aris multi-sport club has Football, Basketball, Volleyball, Water polo and other sports. So you are likely to see similar atmosphere even at the swimming pool :)
Usually the biggest clubs in Europe they have sections in many sports, like football, basketball, volleyball, water polo, handball and others, so we follow the team in every sport with the same passion, usually the love for the club it passes from father to son
