American reacts to Stephen Fry on Political Correctness 

actually we do say that about a great deal of people, but in Stephen Fry's case it's true!

I agree…David Attenborough too!

He is a treasure of Humanity, for which he wants to see united. Every logical thought in his mind is a reflecton of thinking. He is among one of the few I admire along with Hugh Laurie.

Last one I remember being called that openly by the entire nation was Jimmy Savile. Not comparing the two of course but you can't deny he was called that for a long, long time.

Someone who *pretends* to think before speaking.

@@gwh0 Sorry but that would often be Jordan Peterson. But like so many things I guess it all depends on where you start from and whether one is prepared to listen to views from other sides

Pretence requires forethought, and some might say that qualifies as thinking.

Is that about Ryan?

@@gwh0if that’s an insult at Stephen, then you can do better. If you want to persuade others, then attack the substance of a person’s argument, not the person’s character.

True. He is a joy to listen to, probably because of his voice and his way of speaking :)

He didnt say much in my view

He reads the whole collection of Sherlock Holmes stories on Audible. Over 70 hours.

@@CrazyInsanelikeafoxand Harry Potter 🙂

​@@CrazyInsanelikeafox he did 4 harry potter audibooks which are awsome. 😊

Captain Darling is missing,😁 Greetings from Finland

International treasure, too

​@@Merzui-kg8dswas about to comment the same. He is a voice of reason and logic in a world of insanity and conspiracies.

100%

Not to mention a Damn good AudioBook Narrator. Not ashamed to say ive fallen asleep to him reading me harry potter over the last several years.

So incredibly well said. Totally agree with you.

Not in Britain only, he’s loved in The Netherlands as well. 😊

You could say he's quite interesting, badum tish. I'll get my coat 😂

Amen. Aside from being FEROCIOUSLY intelligent, he's a genuinely decent person. What we Brits call "a national treasure".

Good humans love him around this planet..

😂🙌

He is great. There are worse holes to go down.

Otherwise known as Confirmation Bias, we are slowly seeing sites being forced to make some provisions against some of the more egregious stuff, it's still very much too little, too late.

The problem with the internet is that it's given stupid people an audience.

Sure, bubbles is a problem. But how do you manage when there are no arguments possible for the layman to either understand for himself or verify? I.e. when even the experts really can't agree. (Such as with the carbon dioxide, sex changing operations on kids, the war in ukraine leading to WW3 or nuclear disaster, and so on.)

​@@herrbonk3635There is no "disagreement amongst experts" about gender change on kids. There is a reason European countries have banned puberty blockers. It's just that you don't need any qualifications to preach in the U.S.

@@LalaDepala_00Perhaps not so much today. But it certainly was! My native "ultra liberal" Sweden changed course pretty suddenly. It stopped doing most of these interventions and operations some years ago. But several countries continued longer than that, even those that had initially been more sceptical than Sweden (such as the USA).

Yes, I was thinking of that one too. My god (so to speak) those two together!

Yes!!

Yesss!! @Ryan Wuzer needs to react to this one. I watch it regularly. His way of expressing himself is amazing and a sheer joy to listen to ! ❤

Fry and Hitchens were protestant (non religious) but with inherent anti-Catholic bias. English always hated the Catholic Church. Most of the Spanish Inquisition myths are English lies. When will Fry pay reparations to the Irish and Indians though?

I can't understand how anyone could agree to a debate when you find out the opposition is Fry and Hitchens. No matter the topic or which side you're on, you wouldn't stand a chance.

I agree, Darling!

Melchett

Pigeon murderer

best comedy show with the very best sad ending of all times ❤

@@catonkybord7950 That's Captain Darling to you!

Then get some audio books, he's done quite a few. :)

"Baahh. Get Blackadder in here, Darling"

acknowledge even.

Cause what does he teach us. Don't fight to be right. Fight to solve the problem for everyone! Learn from each other to better our society. Not to moan & argue with each other, but to talk, discuss & again Learn. He is our hero for VERY good reason

Funny, I'm also from '76 and remember it the exact same way.

Really? I thought the debate was a train wreck. As Stephen Fry later says in this fiasco, "I'm surprised we didn't talk about political correctness in a debate about political correctness." Instead, what we got was Dyson and the female banging the drum of feminist intersectionality and black oppression, both of them stooping to personal attacks on Jordan Peterson. ("You're a mean white man." Then, later, "I'll say it again, you're a mean white man.") ... Fry and Peterson were articulate, though.

@@hughtube5154 It also wasn't much of a debate on those subjects. Those other two were basically posing their opinions as facts and 'defeninding' is with fallacies. If anything it was hilariously unbalanced with two excellent debaters having to react to two people completely uninterested and incompetent in debating.

Yeah, the two "progressives" ended up making cheap shots and resorting to personal insults. Which is kind of the way they all operate when they can't win a debate and know it.

​@@hughtube5154 he had a good reason for saying that. Being offended when youre supposed to hate political correctness says eveything. He was making a clear point about Peterson not believing white people have an advantage. Dont try to oversimplify what was discussed

​@@00wheelie00 youd only say that if you sit on Petersons side of the fence

I wouldn't trust most politicians to organise a piss-up in a brewery but then most politicians don't do any of the actual governing work at all, they espouse lines but most of the actual work is done by highly paid lackeys under them that keep things running functionally enough for the next highly paid lackey to take over. I think Yes, Minister is a good example of this where you have the politician (Hacker) doing most of the actual campaigning while the work is done by civil servants (Bernard & Geoffrey), it's very realistic of how most countries actually run.

Dame Emma Thompson is also a member of that troupe from Cambridge (she was dating Laurie at the time)

The way PC is going you will not be able to use the word 'knucklehead' soon. 1984 is in our future not our past.

It's linked in the description of the original video for this one. 2 hours though.

Which politicians do you know who are catering to all, not upsetting any group of people at all? Genuinely curious. Cos I don’t know a single one.

@@rosey_ie what I meant was that politicians think their job is catering to all and as a result nothing gets done. Because they are to busy spitting garbage to please everyone. It’s an impossible task. Make the right decisions to take the country forward and to hell with those trying to keep us back

@@rosey_ie not what I meant. They so busy giving out lollipops they forgot they have a country to run. We stopped hitlers invasion but we can’t stop immigrants on inflatable boats. Come on 😂

I work in a prison in the UK at college we were taught that we leave our biases at the gate the people held within the establishment are there after being tried and found guilty by a jury of their peers the result of which is that are incarcerated as a form censure and for the safety of the community. It is hoped that an individual will come to the understanding that his/her behaviour was not acceptable and that upon release they will not again act in such a fashion as to require their removal from society. My point is that we are taught to remain dispassionate and not to judge we are there merely to manage the prison population. A government is elected to manage the country so as to achieve the best outcome they can, they should not be pushing their own agenda. They should remember that in a democracy demos means all not this group or that group and that government is about balancing the needs of many, many differing groups in as fair a way as is possible. We do not live in a utopia and the majority will always win out over the minority in many decisions. What should not happen is the majority bullying or targeting the minority but nor should they have to pander to them either. Apologies for the waffle. I’m old and I’m sticking to my excuse 😊

Berners-Lee didn't create the Internet, he invented the world wide web. The Internet existed for a long time before that.

Semantic quibbles aside, I'd agree with this: people end up in their own bubbles and those bubbles grow apart from each other and then grow to hate each other. Algorithms which try to show you things like the things you've seen before amplify and accelerate this process.

The lack of application of the Rules of Robotics on our AI that drives our media and information platforms has allowed business to put profit before safety.

@@colinhiggs70It's not a semantic quibble, WWW and the Internet are two vastly different things. It's like talking about when the wright brothers invented the wing, which obviously they didn't, the wing existed in previous inventions like gliders but an aircraft would not exist without the wing. The internet is like the wing and WWW is like the plane that requires the wing to even operate at all. But you are right in that people are being feed into their own personal bubbles by the Internet, it is too easy to go out and search for any source of confirmation bias that you want but the Internet is not the first form of that to begin with, news media in most countries has been heavily controlled, even the democratic ones and propaganda while known due to the nazi usage of it, was not something new by the time of WWII. Historically religion has served as a massive way to feed into the believers and to ostracise (or worse) those outside of the bubble. I'd point out even journalists who set out to do "unbiased" reporting rarely manage to keep their own personal biases out of any reporting on anything even remotely connected to politics.

@@colinhiggs70 I agree. Wouldn't it be great if there was an 'algorithm free' search button?