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@grahvis
@grahvis 2 года назад
67% of US gun owners say they have one for self defence, I have seen many comments where a gun owner will say they never go out without taking their gun. A commenter once wrote their idea of freedom was being able to keep a gun under their pillow to defend themselves. I pointed out, my idea of freedom was not feeling the need.
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 2 года назад
I'd hate to be so afraid that i wouldn't go anywhere without a gun tbh.
@epincion
@epincion 2 года назад
They even take them to church
@alanpower8234
@alanpower8234 2 года назад
Free country, sounds like a living in ukraine on a daily basis in the USA.
@pigstrotters4198
@pigstrotters4198 2 года назад
According to the Forbes list, the U.S. ranks 13th on the list of 15 most dangerous countries. Those asked say political climate and gun violence were big reasons for the ranking. Philippines and Mexico take place 11th and 12th, ..Myanmar ..14th.
@davidhuett3579
@davidhuett3579 2 года назад
Exactly!!
@deanlowdon8381
@deanlowdon8381 2 года назад
The biggest issue in the US remains the fact that guns seem to just be viewed as a normal part of life. The vast majority of people in the UK simply have no interest in owning or using a gun.
@thestormkage
@thestormkage 2 года назад
I would rather play with darts and a dart board than shoot a gun 😆
@michellee7465
@michellee7465 2 года назад
Agree, it’s mostly a cultural difference. We just don’t care or want to own a gun. I’ve never passed a gun shop or seen guns on sale in the UK. When I first visited America years ago, I saw guns and other deadly weapons and ammo available to buy at Walmart…a supermarket where you buy your food! 😟
@deanlowdon8381
@deanlowdon8381 2 года назад
@@michellee7465 Yeah, when one of my brothers moved to the US and I first visited I couldn’t believe there were guns just an aisle over from the fruit and veg!
@teampreacts5642
@teampreacts5642 Год назад
@@thestormkage you ain’t got a choice 🤣🤣
@tommcgowan63
@tommcgowan63 2 года назад
One of my most prominent thoughts on the matter is: If you feel you need to arm yourself to keep your property and loved ones safe, your government and police force have massively failed you and need to do much better. We do not have these fears in the UK.
@ianwilson913
@ianwilson913 2 года назад
It just depends on were you live mate. Personally I have knives by my bed, baseball bat, bow, crossbow and 2 english mastiffs. I wouldn't trust the police or government to protect me or my familly because they are useless.
@lenroddis5933
@lenroddis5933 2 года назад
One of the benefits of living in a civilised country. The oft quoted 'God, guns, and family' should read 'Me, God, guns and family'
@sahhull
@sahhull 2 года назад
I live in an area with the worst police emergency response time in the UK. My neighbor was on holiday and his house was getting robbed, the scumbag was in the house when I called. The police response was 'Sorry no one is available'. So we the neighbors helped the scumbag out of the house. He was given an 'education' that he would understand and we secured the house. The police turned up 6 weeks later to investigate the robbery. We have plenty of fears in the UK. Stabbings, muggings, terrorism .... the next gas bill.
@MrMajsterixx
@MrMajsterixx 2 года назад
thats bs, its is very hard to do that without disruptin peoples privacy, if ud take it to the extreme u would get north korea or china, where they have cameras everywhere , AI calculating if u gonna commit crime or not and puting people to jail even before they commit crime because some AI thinks that. and you also dont want that, it is cost for freedom, that the law is always a step behind criminals. It is a probblem of morality of the society. Its not like people cant go and shoot a shool full of kids in Europe, there are many guns, its just that people dont do it in such extent
@JohnSmith-py6xx
@JohnSmith-py6xx 2 года назад
Speak for yourself mate, It depends where you live, If your house is broken into and trashed, then you get beaten up into the bargain, and all you get off the police is a crime number and forgotten about you might change your mind
@catherinewilkins2760
@catherinewilkins2760 2 года назад
Owning a gun is not part of our culture, Owning a good set of darts would be more important.
@catherinewilkins2760
@catherinewilkins2760 2 года назад
@Free Speech thanks for that, I do like history, we are getting there. So sad that many men died in WW1 who had no voting rights.
@t.p.mckenna
@t.p.mckenna 2 года назад
@Free Speech ... and a bloody good thing too.
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
@Howling-Mad-Murdock 2 года назад
@Free Speech Who cares what is or isn’t in a constitution? How long ago was it arrived at? Is it still relevant or is society so different as to render it meaningless? It would have to be constantly updated and who would oversee its updating? The people? People are easily manipulated so what would be the point? We have a reasonable system in this country that, so far, has kept things on a pretty even keel.
@doomlabs769
@doomlabs769 2 года назад
@Free Speech we don't have a constitution!... the closest thing we have is the magna carta which is the basis for old common law written by men hundreds of years ago in analogue... has zero bearing in a digital age. Try to keep up
@racheldicker5611
@racheldicker5611 2 года назад
Lol
@101steel4
@101steel4 2 года назад
There were photos today of our local primary school. The children were celebrating the jubilee, sat outside enjoying themselves without a care in the world. To me that's real freedom.
@kevingrant7098
@kevingrant7098 2 года назад
To Brainwashed children to except a family is better then they own. pay text to support even if they want to is not freedom
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 года назад
But none of those children will ever be Britain's head of state.
@mctea2033
@mctea2033 2 года назад
Neither will any murdered children....they will never make new friends, fall.in love, be parents, have more holidays etcetcetc
@smoothie9931
@smoothie9931 2 года назад
@@crowbar9566 well yeah, they aren't royal... what's the issue
@annalieff-saxby568
@annalieff-saxby568 2 года назад
​@@crowbar9566 How do you know?
@geddesjimmy
@geddesjimmy 2 года назад
If you applied for a firearms permit in the UK for home defence, you would be refused. As an ex pistol and rifle owner and avid shooter, I gave up my firearms after the school shooting in Dunblane Scotland.
@megadesu69
@megadesu69 2 года назад
No offense, but you sound like a pansy to have done that. Perhaps I'd understand if you were personally affected, but...
@peterrobinson9402
@peterrobinson9402 2 года назад
In NI you could get one for defence if you had reason. Ex police and prison wardens etc.
@whatwhatinthewhat4400
@whatwhatinthewhat4400 2 года назад
with the law that a gun must be securely stored, does a gun for home defense make sense? Someone kicks down your door and you need to run and open a safe or lockbox? then I guess load the gun? Sounds like you ight get to the gun just in time for the person who kicked in your door to use it on you.
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 2 года назад
@@whatwhatinthewhat4400 I have shotguns in a certified cabinet and that is in a very secure store. In addition we have a very large guard dog/pet and one of the comments I had from a licensing officer was that (jokingly) the basic house security and the dog were enough, never mind the actual security. I have always made it so that the guns are not readily available and operable (the cartridges are held completely separate and secure) specifically so that I can never be tempted to rely on them for any sort of defense, save for an invasion by a foreign power viz a Dad's Army! Before I could get to a gun to defend me or my family I would have to bypass other tools i.e. kitchen knives, wood hatchets, lumps of wood etc.
@Fan-nothing
@Fan-nothing 2 года назад
Enjoyed my guns in the 90s but no one in the civilised world should own one now people are too mentally unbalanced now.
@101steel4
@101steel4 2 года назад
I think the majority of British people would probably think guns are banned. To most people in Britain, guns aren't really a thing, they're not part of daily life.
@donaldstewart3128
@donaldstewart3128 2 года назад
Sometimes I pop a few clays, but that's about it.
@dasy2k1
@dasy2k1 2 года назад
Yeh the only part of UK gun rules I would change is to make "pay and play" ranges much easier... Its already possible to go and break clays without any form of licence, its the range that is licenced in this case along with the instructor..... This should be more or less the same if I wanted to go and poke holes in paper with a .308 bolt action at 300yds I should be allowed to go to a range. Hire the gun, and the servies of an instructor, buy some ammo, and in a controlled supervised environment poke holes in said paper target before handing the weapon back to the range
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 года назад
Actually they are a thing in rural communities, and not just farmers either.
@101steel4
@101steel4 2 года назад
@@crowbar9566 I live in a rural community, They're not an everyday thing. I hear a shoot on a Sunday morning, and that's about it.
@steventaylor3884
@steventaylor3884 2 года назад
Air guns are popular in the uk for target and pest control and are regulated at a certain power and can be bought without a licence.If you want an unrestricted one you have to apply for one and undergo checks from the police.Most settle for the legal limit versions as they are more than adequate for hobbyists or small game hunting.
@reverentcreature
@reverentcreature 2 года назад
Having a gun that can’t fire lots of shots and banning guns that can fire loads of rounds in one go is a great way to prevent large scale massacres.
@SkiwiAS
@SkiwiAS 2 года назад
I was allowed a 7 round mag in my AR in NZ before 2016 shooting. I could get 5 mages a minuet on target that's 35 rounds, with practice I am sure I could of got more. With a rubber band i could make if full Auto. laws don't stop things the just make legal owners criminals.
@Rohan4711
@Rohan4711 2 года назад
Problem is that magazine capacity is determined by the magazine itself. All you need to do is buy another magazine to get more capacity. People that intend to use a gun for a crime will not care if it is only legal to have magazines with 2 round capacity. The complexity of a magazine is the same as a PEZ dispenser. Easy to make or 3D-print or buy from 90% of countries where they can be bought freely. It will stop law abiding citizen to have them, but that has little effect on crime. Requiring citizen to have show a good reason to own a gun is the main difference. Essentially you either need to show that you are active in a shooting club or are a hunter. Both requires lots of practice and time spent, typically minimum 6 months. The video showed some firearms that are technically legal in UK, like the long barrel Uzi that in practice is not. There is no way the police will approve it for target shooting or hunting as it is not an appropriate choice for either.
@usnchief1339
@usnchief1339 2 года назад
So is crime prevention of inner city gangs using illegally obtained firearms, homelessness "druggies", mental health and suicide prevention. Focus on the cause not the effect. Those are major contributors to the so called gun violence. All ignored by the politicians in this country. Easier to blame firearms "tool" for the rise in violence.
@Slippy100
@Slippy100 2 года назад
@@SkiwiAS oh no how dare the government expect people with guns to act responsibly.
@paddy5059
@paddy5059 2 года назад
and practice is the sorta thing that a psycho ready for a school shooting would do tbh
@SwillMith16
@SwillMith16 2 года назад
If you asked to buy a gun for ‘home defense’ you’d get laughed out the room 😂😂
@nigelpilgrim4232
@nigelpilgrim4232 2 года назад
Exactly !!! In a big population in a bigger country the more guns & rifles that the population have like US -- more guns that people have just multiply & would be hard to disarm people from possessing guns illegally !!! This is not the wild west any more °° Surely a civilised country that has a professional police force & armed forces !!! Then why would the citizens of the country need to arm them selves to the teeth !!! Is the bizarre thing ! Surely they should trust thier police etc to protect them if someone is going around murdering/killing threatening people the police authorities etc would deal with it !!! The root of the problem is the market & collection of guns everywhere in the country !!!
@clairelouise4063
@clairelouise4063 2 года назад
you get laughted at even louder for spelling defense with an s!!!!
@NitroNuggetTV
@NitroNuggetTV 2 года назад
@@clairelouise4063 HAHAHAHA YOU USED AN S!
@paddington1670
@paddington1670 2 года назад
found the person from a civilized country, probably a first world country that also allows firearms, because mostly all of them do, yet they dont have anywhere near the issues that the US has with firearms - almost willing to bet anyway. It's not a right, it's a privilege. Americans always come back with "the criminals have them!" Yes, they will when you make it so easy for everyone to get them. Theyeve been creating this issue for decades, and the chickens have come home to roost. So glad I live in a country that takes firearm ownership seriously. Canada still has a lot of hunting, and recreational firearms, but just a few hoops to jump through stops so many issues - not saying we dont have issues, but nowhere near the percentage that the US has by virtue.
@meIevolence
@meIevolence 2 года назад
@@clairelouise4063 - “laughted”, babes.. you’re not one to comment on spelling.
@dutchroll
@dutchroll 2 года назад
Very similar here in Australia. Many Americans say "you banned guns" or "your Government took your guns", both of which are nonsense. What happened was that licensing and ownership regulations were strengthened and unified across the States, and many guns were reclassified in a way which made them much harder to acquire (and all mass shooters back in the days when we had them legitimately acquired their guns as random civilian mass shootings are rarely ever connected with crime gangs). Self defence is not, and never has been a valid reason to own a gun here. Our society is so safe and so disinterested in guns that having deadlocked doors and windows is considered to be all the security you need, even in the city. As far as needing guns to overthrow a national Government (another common reason given to me for Americans owning guns) which the people are fed up with, we call that process a "Federal election".
@w0t3rdog
@w0t3rdog 2 года назад
I hear you. But why ban Airsoft?
@dutchroll
@dutchroll 2 года назад
@@w0t3rdog airsoft guns are banned in Australia due to their close resemblance to real firearms. I’m not saying I agree with the ban….. I’m just stating the reason the politicians banned them. Their fear was that the realistic resemblance of airsoft guns to actual firearms could lead to them being used in robberies . Again not saying there was any evidence of this being likely, but that’s why. I would’ve thought they could get around this like the UK apparently does (by the 51% painting of the body in a bright colour) but it doesn’t seem to have happened.
@cr9153
@cr9153 2 года назад
Also when Americans do say they have them so they can overthrow the government it makes no sense, guess who has the better weapons the US military.
@dominadors4795
@dominadors4795 2 года назад
@@dutchroll also, in the UK the sentance for using an airsoft rifle or replica to intimidate in the course of a crime is the same as using a real gun to intimidate in the course of a crime.
@whatwhatinthewhat4400
@whatwhatinthewhat4400 2 года назад
yeah i hated during the covid lockdowns, so many americans (I assume) posting on social media about how that would never happen if guns werent banned in australia. But these were the same sort of people who compared wearing a mask to the holocaust so no point listening to them.
@jona826
@jona826 2 года назад
Legally owned guns in the UK tend to belong to people in the countryside, away from the big cities. Farmers need to control pests and put down sick or inured animals etc. You certainly wouldn't be a able to get a gun license for "Home Defence".
@grahvis
@grahvis 2 года назад
I was a guest on a gun range having the last opportunity to use a pistol before the ban. That was in the middle of London.
@lk-music
@lk-music 2 года назад
Indeed, you can't use "self-defence" as a reason to apply for a firearm certificate, that was changed over 100 years ago, in 1920.
@connorward2400
@connorward2400 2 года назад
Legally you can use anything in home/self defense but can't have anything for home/self defense. For example it would be illegal to get a gun for home/self defense however it would be legal to use a gun you had for unrelated reasons in the defense of one's life or property. A subtle but important difference.
@davedavids57
@davedavids57 2 года назад
You can own a firearm for self defence in the UK. In Northern Ireland is the easiest (although still very hard - you just need to show a real need). Weirdly enough you can own any weapon the Home Office says you can own. Section 5 of the 1968 firearms act allows it. You have to apply directly to the Home Office. It is believed that there are a couple of hundred licences issued for self defence in Britain (mainly former intelligence officers, police and politicians.) Also section 5 is how vets can have hand guns (to shoot horses etc), olympic shooters can practice at bisley and most importantly how companies can deal in military firearms. This is also how rich people can own machine guns etc in Britain. All you do is set up a trading company and get a section 5 licence (it's easy for companies). Strange fact until 2020 Britain issued a Section 5 licence to a private company AWE for the private ownership of Nuclear Weapons!!! As the government privatised the company making them.
@MikeAG333
@MikeAG333 2 года назад
@@connorward2400 Careful! Be very careful with that. You are only allowed to meet threats with a proportionate response. If you picked up a gun and pointed it at an unarmed burglar in your house, you'd end up in gaol. Different if they were armed. You'd also have to explain how you had time to retrieve your weapon from a locked gun safe, but didn't have time to, say, call the police.
@therkentraver1242
@therkentraver1242 2 года назад
For me, as a European, it is a complete contradiction to claim that you live in a free country and at the same time must have weapons at home for self-defense ... #TedCruz
@TigranHakobyan-jh8ue
@TigranHakobyan-jh8ue 2 года назад
No country is immune from tyranny as it can come at any time. The people have to be prepared and stand up to lies. You obviously have no knowledge of history or how tyrannys come about
@nadeau
@nadeau 2 года назад
Your country can has get rid of rights to free speech. The 2nd Amendment is for fighting a tyrannical government. It's the most important one. A peaceful slave is still a slave.
@therkentraver1242
@therkentraver1242 2 года назад
@@nadeau If you imply that my country do not have the right to free speach - you are waaay out of line, and really need to get out of your nest and travel the world to educate yourself... If I misunderstood you, I am sorry! USoA has the highest number of Guns per capita in the world, 220% above the second on the list, and more than one per person... I pitty you having the need to defend that. Freedom??? I do not think so.
@nadeau
@nadeau 2 года назад
@@therkentraver1242 Your leaders can make any law they want and there's nothing you can do about it. They can ban so called "hate speech" which is a violation of free speech. There is a reason for the right to bear arms and that is fight off the government. Good day sir.
@therkentraver1242
@therkentraver1242 2 года назад
@@nadeau Good day to you too ;) - and God help America.
@christinepreston8642
@christinepreston8642 2 года назад
In the UK, we may have our history and old traditions, but there is a time when you have to update old laws. Sometimes it seems to me that parts of the USA are clinging on too much to the past and not just on this topic.
@grahvis
@grahvis 2 года назад
That is one of the problems with a written constitution, it doesn't move with the times.
@hawx00145
@hawx00145 2 года назад
Unfortunately, now it's very hard to amend the constitution...it's a long process.
@nbartlett6538
@nbartlett6538 2 года назад
I don't think that's really the problem. Nor is the written constitution necessarily the problem. The USA has a strong system of checks and balances where the House and the Senate and the President must all agree on a Bill for it to become law. This sounds good on paper but in the current highly polarised environment, it means that even when one party has a majority it can't get anything done. The UK has the opposite problem; there is almost NO check on the power of the party that holds a majority in parliament, and they can get a large parliamentary majority despite not winning a majority of votes in the country.
@lk-music
@lk-music 2 года назад
@@grahvis It wasn't in their constitution until they added it, as an amendment, the second amendment, they could amend it again, no law against that.
@connorward2400
@connorward2400 2 года назад
There is nothing wrong with old laws as such the oldest law in England that is still enforced is the Statute of Marlborough in 1267. Its just you need a system that is adaptable to changing times. America shall forever be restrained by the values of the enlightenment for better and for worse. That's why I think the UKs uncodified constitution is far better than any written one as the British constitution was not written by men but by time itself.
@StevenQ74
@StevenQ74 2 года назад
The hard facts are: in the whole of Europe, not just the EU but the entire continent with 742 million people there were 7 mass shootings with 35 deaths in 2021, in the US in the same year there were 693 with 703 deaths: and Europe has over 2 times the population
@usnchief1339
@usnchief1339 2 года назад
Yeah, but most of those were in liberal cities with a certain breed of humans that love to commit violence against themselves.
@StevenQ74
@StevenQ74 2 года назад
@@usnchief1339 What absolute BS You are clearly denying the real problem, the MORE LIBERAL Europe has only 1 % of what the USA has with over twice as many people
@usnchief1339
@usnchief1339 2 года назад
@@StevenQ74 Spend a night walking the streets in Southside of Chicago and tell me what you think in the morning.
@StevenQ74
@StevenQ74 2 года назад
@@usnchief1339 Because to many people have guns, THAT is why it's dangerous, but you obviously never been outside the US
@usnchief1339
@usnchief1339 2 года назад
@@StevenQ74 Stop with the assumptions. I have been around the world numerous times and have lived in for years in two European countries. You obviously have no idea about American culture and our Constitution. Plus your numbers are BS. Get your facts straight before barking off BS. That's exactly what our politicians do.
@shoutyman9922
@shoutyman9922 2 года назад
Firstly, neither the British Government nor the Australian government TOOK guns away from the public. When the appropriate laws were changed, the affected firearms were bought, by the governments, for fair market value. Secondly, it was unusual for minor criminals to carry guns. The police in Britain, are for the most art not armed. A burglar, for example, is in the burglary business, not in the getting shot business. Going "Tooled-up" to a burglary, is a good way of getting beaten up when you eventually get to prison. Prisoners do not want to encourage police to carry guns as it's bad for business.
@deanjohn433
@deanjohn433 2 года назад
You are actually correct there was very few armed police in the uk til bank robbers changed the game by taking guns on jobs I think it was the 60s when bank robbers started taking guns on jobs and it forced the police to get more armed officers because bank robbery’s went threw the roof and the local police were not equipped to deal with this level of violence. and from villains I’ve talked to people who burgle peoples houses are not seen as criminals they are seen as scum because you don’t rob the working man . A business or bank is 1 thing they insured to the eye balls your average person ain’t it’s why shoplifters are seen as just petty criminals they hurt businesses not the average person I know it doesn’t make it right but let’s all be honest crime is a business
@simonwinwood
@simonwinwood 2 года назад
wow. thanks for the info. i didn't know that
@denisrobertmay875
@denisrobertmay875 2 года назад
@@deanjohn433 Peaks in armed robbery and firearms offences in the UK ocurred when guns were most available . That was around the two World wars ( there were also fewer police). This is one of the reasons that meaningful statistics are generally given from the'50s
@deanjohn433
@deanjohn433 2 года назад
@@denisrobertmay875 well I won’t disagree with you that some armed robbers was probably using guns before the 60s I’m just saying that from what I’ve heard and read it got so bad that the police had to change with the tactics of the villains
@clivegilbertson6542
@clivegilbertson6542 2 года назад
After the Christchurch massacre New Zealand initiated a buy back scheme for firearms as well...
@antoineduchamp4931
@antoineduchamp4931 2 года назад
Important to know: if you are in the UK and have a firearm without a licence, you will go to prison pretty quickly. A sentence of 7 years for illegal possession of arms in the UK is not uncommon.
@gustavmeyrink_2.0
@gustavmeyrink_2.0 2 года назад
Also if you commit a crime with a gun they automatically add a minimum 5 years to your sentence. So for example you rob somebody at knifepoint you might get 3 years but if you commit the same robbery at gunpoint you get 3 years + 5 years for a total of 8.
@antoineduchamp4931
@antoineduchamp4931 2 года назад
@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Thank you, this is very interesting as I did not know it. Alas I don't believe the Americans will give up their guns, never ever I am afraid. Many thanks
@avro3726
@avro3726 2 года назад
Same goes for an imitation firearm such as an airsoft replica without a valid defence as it is considered the same as an actual firearm offence wise.
@ericwilliams2317
@ericwilliams2317 2 года назад
@@avro3726 Yep, that's a strange law that one. I have an FAC and own a number of firearms, yet I'm not allowed to own an 'Airsoft' gun (which is mainly for guys who go out and play at being soldiers) without an entirely different type of license altogether - sorry, can't remember the name of that particular license. So, I can legitimately own rifles which are potentially deadly way out beyond a mile+ yet can't own what is essentially a toy rifle to play soldiers with and which will 'sting a bit' if you are on the receiving end of it, wtf!
@pauls3204
@pauls3204 2 года назад
In Scotland you could be jailed for up to 2 years if found on your person with ammunition for a gun/rifle , ie , not at a registered shooting range or sports shoot
@individualmember
@individualmember 2 года назад
Brit here, I did learn to shoot when I was a teenager as a member of the Army Cadets. I fired rifles on the army ranges at Colchester and Thetford. The last time I held a rifle was when I was 16, which is now 40 years ago and in that 40 years there has never been a moment when I have wanted to have a gun, it is just irrelevant in my life. I grew up in the countryside here in the UK it’s not unusual for farmers and pest controllers to own a shotgun and there is a little bit of a sport-shooting scene, but I moved to London when I was 19.
@hackdaniels7253
@hackdaniels7253 2 года назад
I was in the Air Cadets, and I could tell the same story. The amount of training you get in firearms before they even give you bullets is quite... instructional. The whole safety culture, and discipline they think you need to have embedded in your mind. I would hate to think about a world where anyone could just get hold of a gun without going through all of that first.
@clairelouise4063
@clairelouise4063 2 года назад
my grandpa was a ww1 vet (uk) when i was a kid , playing cowboys, my friends had some gun poppers, my gramps wasnt really noticing what we were doing. my friend fired 3 gun poppers in a row.......gramps threw himself to the ground shaking, and couldnt speak for 3 days. this is a man that won the military medal in ww1. my friend and i were so devastated by this, we threw are toy guns away and never even played guns using our fingers.. a lot of the US NRA people that pop up on tv, look like they should be housed in a secured facility.
@theparanoidandroid3583
@theparanoidandroid3583 2 года назад
@@hackdaniels7253 I had the same experience in the ATC when I was a teen.
@Rohan4711
@Rohan4711 2 года назад
@@clairelouise4063 If he was a veteran he should surely be able to tell real gunshots from bang from a toy gun. The sound is not remotely similar. Maybe he didn't like kids playing that way, but he could have been a man and say so instead of doing that stupid thing.
@clairelouise4063
@clairelouise4063 2 года назад
@@Rohan4711 i dont normally respond to fuck wits, but am making an exception. he adored all his grandchildren their friends. he was one of 13 siblings and favourite, daft uncle. he won the military medal in ww1 not for killing but for rescuing 32 people mostly tommies and french from a dire situation that would have killed them all if he hadnt done what he did. he never spoke of it and my generation knew nothing about this til after he died. you clearly are so ignorant you have no concept of ptsd, and no concept of bravery or selflessnes no idea of the devastating affect of a vile war. you also dont know that his youngest brother bernard, who joined the war mid 1918, commited suicide 3 weeks after being demobbed, by setting fire to himself in the back yard due to shell shock. you also dont know that another brother, ted, killed himself 15 years after being demobbed because he could no longer stand the flash back and night terrors. you also dont know that he had schrapnel in his spine from the war, that moved in the late 1950s and after a unsuccessful operation spent the rest of his life as a paraplegic. then grandchilden started arriving....so he made himself weighted boots and taught himself to ''walk '' by balancing on walking sticks then swinging his legs through with his abdominal muscles, the weighted boots held him in place, moved his sticks and continued. the most amazing thing is he wasnt unusual or unique, military personel the world over are brave and tough. ''men dont make war , governments do'' dont get woke , this a direct quote from ww1. there are thousand of people like my grandpa an i hope all of their relatives are totally disgusted by you. also my favourite uncle was an FEPOW. he was 6ft 4'' and returned to the uk weighing less than 8 stone. he suffered physically and mentally for the rest of his life as they all did, something you would even comprehend.......go back to your video games....it is so brave. i remember a saying that....''people judge you by their own standards''. so on behalf of my grandpa and every other decent human being in this world....i say a big old ...FUCK YOU......go back to your mum's basement and troll idiots, not people like me who are humbled by their family's bravery and service and ther bravery and service of everyone, including the personell on the opposite side. they were all brave people being manipulated by their respective governments. i wish you a hideous and painful cowards death, with a side dish of humiliation.......
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 года назад
A lot of people don't realise that Switzerland and Finland have gun laws as easy as Texas. The difference is the gun culture. Guns are not the go-to dispute resolver there and their national identity is not so bound up with firearms. In fact, I think the Swiss government still issue every male of military age an assault rifle to keep at home in case the Germans or the French get any ideas about invading. They also rig the bridges on the Alpine passes with explosives ready to blow if needed. But the Swiss and the Finns do not fetishise and promote guns, which is what the Americans do, they treat them more like power tools.
@dasy2k1
@dasy2k1 2 года назад
In Switzerland the bragging rights around firearms come from being able to get 6 shots in the black at 1000m on the range not about what you own or being all macho with it
@sunisbest1234
@sunisbest1234 2 года назад
I read a study comparison done a few years ago. They took 6 countries with similar gun laws to the U.S. ( 6 was to compare similar populations size) in the 6, in 1 year, there were a few hundred gun related deaths. In the U.S. 30,000.
@Honken55
@Honken55 2 года назад
Not sure its as easy to get a semi automatic in Finland. Lots of weapons around just like Sweden but most are hunting rifles.
@br5380
@br5380 2 года назад
Country's though with high levels of gun ownership also have correspondingly high rates of suicide 'success'...
@petergaskin1811
@petergaskin1811 2 года назад
Or toys.
@leonbrooks2107
@leonbrooks2107 2 года назад
The thing many people forget about the Constitution is that it was designed to be reviewed every 19 years to make sure it is still relevant and also designed to be regularly changed when necessary.
@DrDaveW
@DrDaveW 2 года назад
Yes, I don’t understand why the gun lobby say that the Constitution cannot be changed when there’s already been twenty seven amendments.
@Trebor74
@Trebor74 2 года назад
Americans can ban alcohol(even for a short while) but threaten civil war if the government does anything about gun control
@petergaskin1811
@petergaskin1811 2 года назад
Generally I think that the second amendment is overdue for changing. My suggestion... "the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If, as a result of this, children happen to die, meh."
@siph_horridus
@siph_horridus 2 года назад
The constitution states that the right to bear arms “as a well regulated militia” so the State can defend itself from the Fedral Gov but everyone ignores the rest of the sentence. I quote : “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” To me the whole situation is easily solved and no one loses their guns, keep them all locked away at a Sheriff’s Office or other ‘State’ level and not on the individual… but what the hell do I know or understand, I’m a Brit and guns are not in my consciousness (except at work, Forces).
@DrDaveW
@DrDaveW 2 года назад
@@siph_horridus I lived in York, UK, for several years. I think I was still required to assemble and practice my crossbow skills once a week.
@charlottehardy822
@charlottehardy822 2 года назад
I watched an interview with Andy Murray today where the subject of Uvalde came up and he said how it brought back memories of his own experience at Dunblane. One school shooting was enough for the UK to tighten up gun laws and I wish the US would at least make theirs a little tighter.
@kenchristie9214
@kenchristie9214 2 года назад
That's all it takes for most developed countries.
@petergaskin1811
@petergaskin1811 2 года назад
@@kenchristie9214 "civilised"
@elliottsw
@elliottsw 2 года назад
I think you've got it spot on. The problem in the US is how many guns there are and how easy it is to access them when you're pissed off, when you're drunk or when you're a kid who doesn't know what it is. Here in the UK I could buy an AR15 clone with thousands of rounds of ammo, and yet nobody picks one up and goes on a shooting spree. You're right that we essentially banned all guns that are small enough to conceal and that makes a huge difference and is a huge part of keeping us safe - it's why sawnoff shotguns are so popular with criminals as they're the only weapon that still sort of functions with most of the barrel removed.
@anny1_232
@anny1_232 2 года назад
The US Constitution was written when guns were muskets and held one bullet at a time. Those days have gone. US needs to decide which is more important- the lives of their people and kids in particular, or the right to own a gun.
@ianmontgomery7534
@ianmontgomery7534 2 года назад
yes I can't for a second believe that the people who brought about the second amendment wouldn't be in favour of modifying it to suit new situations like automatic weapons.
@usnchief1339
@usnchief1339 2 года назад
Simple, right to own guns!
@anny1_232
@anny1_232 2 года назад
@@usnchief1339 I hope that’s your idea of a sick joke. Are you a parent?
@usnchief1339
@usnchief1339 2 года назад
@@anny1_232 I am and all of my kids know how to shoot firearms. I also own just over 50 firearms. Dating back to the 1880s. The guns are not "Bad", it's the people that use them to commit crimes.
@anny1_232
@anny1_232 2 года назад
@@usnchief1339 the problem is the US regulations are so lax that virtually anyone who wants a gun can have one. Regardless of what they plan to use them for. There’s no way it can can be right for the most common cause of child deaths in the US to be by shooting - which it is. We can own guns in the UK but it’s regulated, which includes how guns are stored in people’s homes. The police visit gun owners to check this. We have very, very few shootings.
@jim2757-w8m
@jim2757-w8m 2 года назад
With the qualifications I hold, I am able to sign certain document, firearms licence request forms being one. One of my staff would ask me to sign his firearms requests form when it was due for renewal, he had had some time off work with depression, when he asked me to sign one of his renewals I had to refuse, I also informed the local police authority explaining my decision and his resent health issues. Better safe than sorry. 🇬🇧
@paulbromley6687
@paulbromley6687 2 года назад
You didn’t really need to do that as the checks would pick his depression up anyway as a matter of course as he would have to declare and give access to his health records.
@jayparry928
@jayparry928 2 года назад
@@paulbromley6687 Yeah but the point is he CAN do it. Anyone in the entire chain can and should raise concerns.
@jim2757-w8m
@jim2757-w8m 2 года назад
Hi Paul, there is much more to the back story of my post that I have not mentioned. I needed to make sure the authorities where aware of his forthcoming application. Thanks for your reply. 👍
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 2 года назад
You did the right and responsible thing Jim.
@sahhull
@sahhull 2 года назад
@@jim2757-w8m Our local gun shop owner flagged someone to the police... The police firearms licensing unit issued a license for the guy to shoot his .223 at targets in his suburban back garden! It was only the gun shop owner making conversation as to where he shot that uncovered the police fk up
@coot1925
@coot1925 2 года назад
Hi Conner. Here's some stats cus I know you love them. Here's some stats on school shootings since 2009:- Canada 2 France 2 Germany 1 Japan 0 Italy 0 UK 0 US 288
@bostonblackie9503
@bostonblackie9503 2 года назад
The point is you are on your own. Other countries are similar to the UK and they don't have mass gun massacres, certainly not within a couple of weeks of each other. The US law is based on a weapon people used over two hundred years ago, not military weapons of today. Why is owning a gun a right but health care is not? The majority of Americans are for stricter gun control, but the government seems to think they are in charge instead of the population. Your opinion has disappointed me!
@PDVism
@PDVism 2 года назад
Correction : the US doesn't have a mass shooting every few weeks. They happen several times a day. There were 3 on May 30th, 7 the day before that, 5 the day before that..... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
@chrisw3771
@chrisw3771 2 года назад
Living in the UK I did learn to shoot when I was young, rifle, hand gun & shotgun. I grew up in a city with some of the highest shooting rates in the UK. There were lots of illegally held guns or guns that were 'left over' (gun control came in in 1923 from memory) I now live in a rural area with far more shotguns, shooting is pest control on farms. 6.5 guns per hundred people, but one person may have 6 or more guns registered guns so they are even less common than it suggests. What got rid of the handguns in the UK (& there were 1000's unregistered when I was growing up) was a shooting where several people died. All the police forces held gun amnesties where anyone could hand in a gun no questions asked to be destroyed. This has happened a few times over the years. It only takes one person in the house to hand a gun or guns in & they are out of circulation, all the younger people appearing on the news protesting about gun control in the US could hand in the unregistered guns in the house. Yes it will cause arguments but they are gone. What kind of civilised society needs a gun to protect the home? Get a dog if your that worried.
@dibdab699
@dibdab699 2 года назад
The ability of a person suffering mental distress and being able to quickly access a weapon with high volume magazines and high muzzle velocity needs to be restricted or curtailed completely. End of. No excuses.
@arthour051
@arthour051 2 года назад
The worst mass shooting event in the UK was the Dunblane School shooting, 16 students and 1 teach were killed, with 15 others being injured. If I recall correctly, he had 4 pistols, two revolvers and two 9mm magazine fed pistols. Guns laws were changed more or less that year due to mass public protest and uproar, resulting in magazine fed pistols being more or less impossible to get, overall length increased to make easy concealment and drawing of the concealed weapon difficult, reducing the potential magazine (most revolvers only have a 6 round cylinder) and making reloading much more difficult (its easier and cheaper to get a hold of legal, 'muzzle loaded' revolvers) and most firearms now available tend to be rim fire, not center fire. The difference being the firing pin hits the rim of the cartridge or shell, so the explosive force sending the bullet up the barrel is off center, he science behind it being that rim fired projectiles are have less power and accuracy than a center fired munition. In practice the difference isnt a whole lot, but any option to reduce the lethality of legal weapons is what matters
@iancomputerscomputerrepair8944
@iancomputerscomputerrepair8944 2 года назад
I think I am right in saying that 36 out of 50 states there is no need for you to have a licence to purchase a firearm. In the UK it is clearly far more controlled. Such as making sure that you do not have any mental health issues that could cause a problem. I think that the UK has got the balance correct.
@LG-cz6ls
@LG-cz6ls 2 года назад
@@OzzieOzzieOzzieOyOyOy In fact psychopathy and sociopathy aren't mental illnesses. They are often found in political and business leaders for some reason...
@billingwizard
@billingwizard 2 года назад
Sadly, I can’t agree with your argument. Whatever the issue is about the amount of hand guns. As someone mentioned the real issue in America is how an organisation like the NRA decides policy. As I have said before, the law in America defends companies, not people. This is not about left or right.. it is absolutely unbelievable that an 18 year old can enter a store and buy 2 AR15’s. America says gun control is a political issue, defining the Entire nation as idiots. Sadly, it will happen again and again because people like yourself do not have the guts to stand up and be counted. I can think of no other country in the world that would elect officials who do not make it their primary goal to stop these mass killings.
@scottirvine121
@scottirvine121 2 года назад
What a fantastic comment
@kenchristie9214
@kenchristie9214 2 года назад
The NRA membership is less than 1.5% of the American population, yet it is the most powerful lobby group in America.
@jonathangoll2918
@jonathangoll2918 2 года назад
Looking at America from the UK, I think what you need is a Constitutional Amendment. But not to amend the Second Amendment, but to have an Amendment restricting the amount of money that big organisations can pay to the election expenses of legislators, and indeed on how much any contributors can dictate to the candidate. My understanding is that there are restrictions on party expenses, but not on how much money single-issue organisations - such as the National Rifle Association - can pay to candidates. These big sums of money sloshing around mean that there can't be a reasoned debate about the often complex and technical questions around gun control. If a legislator is being subsidised by the National Rifle Association, even if he or she comes up with a good argument against some gun control measure, it will be assumed that he or she is simply saying that argument because he or she is being paid to do so. You badly need an unbiased, calm debate about the issues. This cannot happen with all this money about.
@JustMe-ks8qc
@JustMe-ks8qc 2 года назад
Spot on. The same issue goes for health care- the US will never have universal healthcare because the insurance companies are very rich, and they have huge influence on government. Rational debate can't exist if the majority of the people doing the talking are just mouthpieces.
@grahvis
@grahvis 2 года назад
@@JustMe-ks8qc . Just the administration of the healthcare system in the US, is a massive industry all of its own.
@davidhunt3808
@davidhunt3808 2 года назад
On issue of big business and organizations influencing politicians with financial donations is an area that needs to be looked at in many western democracies not just America . As for the second Amendment it came about after the revolutionary wars /War of independence against Britain . Britain was still present on the North American continent after independence maybe it was there because they feared an invasion and another war with Britain which did eventuate in 1812 . Today there is no threat from outside !! I think they need to rewrite the second amendment to suit modern times . I understand the self defense in your home argument but having open carry in the streets and the right to have weapon of war seems all wrong to me .
@markhopkins222
@markhopkins222 2 года назад
@@davidhunt3808 the NRA and gun activist do not even rank in the top 50 lobbyist in the states
@gooner_duke2756
@gooner_duke2756 2 года назад
@@davidhunt3808 You're right. I would add that the bill of rights, in England 1689, essentially a bill to restrict the monarch, after a very unstable 1600's in England, civil war, etc. It was very much a step in England becoming a constitutional monarchy or already was in fact. The bill was around freedom of speech, up holding certain laws, etc., etc. less power to the King basically. But one of the laws was the right for any person to own a gun for home protection. The bill of rights influenced the 13 colonies, Jefferson, revolutionary war etc. The, perhaps irony, is that the right to bear and own arms was in England first and inherited into the U.S. constitution. I think the two cultures differ here perhaps. England/UK 's 'freedoms', democracy was evolutionary, a progress and process. Where as for the U.S. is was a revolution, as we know. Very broadly speaking, I think it might be how the 2 countries trust government. Generally speaking in the UK we are less afraid of government/more trusting on some level. There isn't an expectation, even unconsciously that the government is going to round us up and take away our rights. The US were also a new country without established law enforcement, etc., etc., the wild west and all that. Plus immigrant settling new lands, had fears on the native Americans and so on. So probably another factor as to why gun culture has grown and has become very much a part of the norm. The question, as you pointed out, for the US now is, do we still need these laws? etc.
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
@Howling-Mad-Murdock 2 года назад
You make some very good points about the amount of guns already in existence, however Rome wasn’t built in a day and you have to start somewhere. What would really help would be removing lobbyists from political life. Mitt Romney has taken over $13,000,000 from the NRA alone!
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 2 года назад
Never forget, the NRA's main source of income is gun companies, not members.
@shabingly
@shabingly 2 года назад
If you put "self defense" on a firearms licence in the UK; first someone as pedantic as I in the dibble will scribble out the defense and put defence. Then they will say no, then they will make a note that you are never allowed a licence in the future, then they will come round your gaff and have a look for unlicenced controlled weapons. You *may* be found to have used a firearm for self defence in a court of law, but you cannot legally own a licence for a firearm for the specific use of self defence, is my *completely unqualified assessment of UK law*
@marvintpandroid2213
@marvintpandroid2213 2 года назад
Fine by me, if you desire to have a gun for self defence then you have a gun with the purpose of killing someone.
@heinruh9788
@heinruh9788 2 года назад
Well as a German i absolutely feel no need to own a Gun for "self defense"
@TheRockkickass
@TheRockkickass 2 года назад
Yea until a maniac with a little mustache takes control of your country and nobody is able to fight back.
@heinruh9788
@heinruh9788 2 года назад
@@TheRockkickass seems like you hardly know anything about German History!
@TheRockkickass
@TheRockkickass 2 года назад
@@heinruh9788 oh I’m wrong?
@jamesharris7341
@jamesharris7341 2 года назад
You chaps culturally are different. You’re raised on the John Wayne ethos of a person looks after themself without any help from anyone else, with a history of the west being populated by rugged individualists. Our collective memory/culture is of us all pulling together to deal with crises, such as the “blitz spirit”. So a yank will look after himself, have a gun and sort out their own healthcare, whereas we’re more likely to do things for the collective good at state level, hence the NHS is worshipped here.
@JarlGrimmToys
@JarlGrimmToys 2 года назад
That makes a lot of sense. The US has never faced invasion but they had the Wild West attitude of taking land and protecting it with a gun, and screw everyone else they had to look after themselves. While we had the very real threat of invasion. Which if we only looked out for ourselves we would have lost. So we had farmers growing as much produce as possible, including flax for making parachutes. Women took over jobs that’s were traditionally done by men, while they were away fighting. People would organise scrap metal drives so it could be recycled into ammunition, bombs, tanks etc. People took in children who were refugees from London. Everyone was expected to do their bit and look out for each other. Anyone that didn’t or that tried to capitalise on the war such as profiteering were considered scum.
@JarlGrimmToys
@JarlGrimmToys 2 года назад
And it’s not just WWII. Most of our history is filled with invasions and war. We were at war with France for centuries. Not to mention being conquered by the Romans, Normans, and Danes.
@individualmember
@individualmember 2 года назад
The thing I find interesting is that the period of the “Wild West” is exactly the period when US industrial productivity overtook the UK, it’s the period of Edison and Westinghouse and the first skyscrapers. The opening up of the west was largely about producing enough food for the burgeoning cities. The “wild west” is basically fictional, people like Buffalo Bill and Annie Oakley were entertainers who even came to the UK and performed for Queen Victoria. Most of it was created by Hollywood. The gunfight at the OK Coral was real, but it was about a bunch of troublemakers refusing to comply with the local firearms restrictions.
@clairelouise4063
@clairelouise4063 2 года назад
@@JarlGrimmToys totally agree........a social conscience is the most important thing in any society. keep calm and carry on!!
@EclecticInstinct
@EclecticInstinct 2 года назад
What the video forgot to mention is that there are limits on the amount of ammunition you can purchase and store. This is specified on your gun licence.
@petergaskin1811
@petergaskin1811 2 года назад
And that all rifle ammunition must be stored separately from the weapons and, for me, that means at my gun club.
@clivenewton7609
@clivenewton7609 2 года назад
Not strictly true! It’s the amount of ammunition that you can legally ‘poses’ which can of course be varied if you find you are enjoying shooting to much!
@Zahaqiel
@Zahaqiel 2 года назад
So in Australia they didn't "take guns away from people", and Australia _does_ still have gun problems. What the Australian government did is it made certain kinds of guns illegal, and then ran a buyback scheme for those kinds of guns, followed by periodic options to hand in illegal weapons without fear of legal consequence - the combination of gun amnesties and gun buybacks allowed people to be benefited by compliance without risk of any consequences for having the guns in the first place. A more detailed explanation is, they ran a gun buyback for 12 months back in 1996-1997, which netted 650,000 guns and paid out some AU$304 million to those gun owners. There have been repeated gun amnesties run by state governments and the federal government since then to allow consequence-free gun hand-ins to aid in compliance with the laws. In fact, as of last year there is now a permanent gun amnesty in place allowing anyone to surrender any unregistered firearm or firearm-related item to a police station anonymously without consequence - it's considered a safety issue. Giving people a consequence-free option to assist in compliance is *WAY* better than not doing that and then having to punish them for non-compliance. So while police do take guns from criminals they find who have guns that aren't registered or that are illegal or that have been proven to be used for a criminal purpose (because you can legally own guns in Australia for the record), generally speaking the government isn't coming for anyone's guns. There are approximately 3.5 million registered firearms in Australia, held by about 868,000 licensed individuals (out of a population of 25.5 million or so at the time that the University of Sydney released these figures last year - so about 3.4% of the population is registered to own firearms). Australia still has gun problems - there have been hostage crises and shootings since the 1996 gun law changes - but they are rare (there are two of note since 1996), and Australia basically doesn't have mass shootings anymore. *Also, as an educational side-note:* the Second Amendment existed because the US originally did not have a federally-run military as that was viewed as potentially tyrannical (imagine the President being able to command all the military! that's basically a king!), and instead each state had their own militia. Since that time, the legal classifications of militias in the US have changed to include civilian associations, and the military has also been federalised which eliminated the state-run militias as they existed at the time of the amendment, making the Second Amendment doubly non-applicable in the modern era. It also says that the militias had to be "well-regulated", which directly implies that regulated gun ownership was part of the intent. So while the right to own guns could not be abridged by the government, the manner in which they were owned and the way in which ownership was regulated absolutely was meant to be. And it wasn't so that people could shoot their own government, it was so that the US could be defended from outside invaders without the need of a federally-run standing army.
@Trebor74
@Trebor74 2 года назад
One of the reasons for the American Revolution is that the British government wanted to remove guns from the Americans, considering they started the French Indian war and their behaviour since,the British government was probably right.
@sherlockrobin597
@sherlockrobin597 2 года назад
The war of independence was about tax, don’t fool yourself into thinking that a group of rich men wanted anything more honourable.
@Trebor74
@Trebor74 2 года назад
@@sherlockrobin597 "It is reported that the Governor has said, that he has Three Things in Command from the Ministry, more grievous to the People, than any Thing hitherto made knonw. It is conjectured 1st, that the Inhabitants of this Province are to be disarmed......" Written in Boston 1768 after an appeal for the colonists to retain their arms. Unknown source but believed to be samuel Adams.
@sherlockrobin597
@sherlockrobin597 2 года назад
@@Trebor74 “tax is for losers. Let’s start a new country and pretend it’s about guns and liberty and stuff” unknown source but believed to be Benjamin Franklin
@sdm9099
@sdm9099 2 года назад
Why do people in the US feel they need to protect themselves? From what? Here (UK) we do not live in fear of violence against us. THAT is my take away. A sad society that feels it needs so much personal protection. Also, the idea one has to teach drills to school children about what to do if there is an attack is, to the rest of the world, incomprehensible.
@pigstrotters4198
@pigstrotters4198 2 года назад
What Jeff Jefferies said makes sense. When people break into your home, they only want your TV. They don't want to murder you..if so, how many enemies do you have?
@pigstrotters4198
@pigstrotters4198 2 года назад
You wouldn't believe how many of those "good" guys (The Americans like to use this term as justification for owning some type of firearm against an armed "bad" guy). Some of these guns belonging to the "good" guys have been the cause of many child deaths. For example an 11 year boy old kills this 3 year old sister with a gun which was lying in the hall. Another where a 5 year girl shot her mother with a gun which was placed on a micro-wave. Another one was where a father holding his 9 month daughter picked up his gun which had fallen from his holster and it went off killing her. and there are many many more, including those kids who accidentally shot themselves. Crazy.
@scottirvine121
@scottirvine121 2 года назад
Personally I’m proud of our gun restrictions and agree with the vetting process. Don’t need one….I feel safer and for me that’s a comfort
@Beetlejooce01
@Beetlejooce01 2 года назад
Yeah me too, but it can be scary with the amount of knife crime that happens.
@fishyc150
@fishyc150 2 года назад
@@Beetlejooce01 knife crime is heavily over reported and even then its usually amongst "themselves". Knife crime in the UK is and always has been lower than Americas. They report mass school shootings while we report youth gang stabbings.
@scottirvine121
@scottirvine121 2 года назад
@@Beetlejooce01 personally never came across it but then again I don’t live in a city where my assumption is it’s more prevalent. Still very rare though
@Beetlejooce01
@Beetlejooce01 2 года назад
@@scottirvine121 I live in a town that recently became a city
@Beetlejooce01
@Beetlejooce01 2 года назад
Apparently it’s very common here
@HaurakiVet
@HaurakiVet 2 года назад
NZ has similar gun laws to the UK, with some differences in definitions. When applying for a licence the applicant (not in order) must sit and pass a written test after completing a course on gun ownership and safety. They are interviewed by a police arms officer to confirm genuine reasons for purchase and use, the applicant's partner is interviewed separately to ensure that there is no history of threats or violence in their relationship and the storage (lockable safe bolted to the building) meets required standard. Referees are needed who will be interviewed and other checks as may be identified are followed up, such as membership or association with gangs or other risk groups. The licence is for a set period and defines the class of weapon it is for, eg, long arm, pistol, collector... As we are a very safe country on the world scale, (I think about second as opposed to the US about one hundredth plus) the use of firearms for home defence is not an issue. Firearms here are used for hunting (we have open hunting for most game animals, so it is a common sport), target shooting and pest control. I personally have hunted all if my adult life and as my ability to do so has diminished with age I now shoot targets for pleasure, a common progression.
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 2 года назад
The NZ gun laws did not stop the Mosque killings in 2019. The two shot guns and two rifles were purchased from a local gun store but the two assault rifles appear to have been bought on line, as were the magazine conversions for the rifles. It was apparently too easy to have weapons that were regarded as man-killers rather than for legitimate sporting or hunting reasons. The shooter had a firearms license and appears to have easily subverted the checks to ensure he was a fit person to hold a license, from what I read the police were not solely to blame for the failure of those checks. In essence the gun laws failed to prevent the mass shooting.
@HaurakiVet
@HaurakiVet 2 года назад
@@clivewilliams3661 You are quite right, at the time of the massacre the gun laws allowed weapons of the type used to be readily available, however, since then there have been major changes in legislation, automatic and semi automatic weapons (rifles and shotguns) are effectively banned, a national buy back of existing weapons having been carried out in which weapons capable of high rates of fire and high capacity magazines were purchased back from the owners and destroyed. Those with tube magazines exceeding approved capacity could be permanently modified to reduced capacity. On line purchases then still required licence checks and legislation changes and now require purchases to be sent from licenced gun-shop to licenced gun-shop, not directly, making on line purchases virtually the same as on site purchases. I won't detail the specifics of the legislation due to space but it followed the same principals as used in the Australian buy back of automatic and semi automatic weapons. Details, if interested, are available on the New Zealand Police website. If the then existing licencing processes had been followed it is highly unlikely that a firearms licence would have been issued to the offender (an Australian who's background was not adequately checked) in the first place. Of course no law will prevent all crimes being committed, I recently saw an American politician say (on gun control) that new laws won't stop gun crime, an interviewer pointed out that we have laws against murder but people are still murdered, so was he advocating doing away with all laws? Funnily enough, no answer. We have had two "massacre" type shooting crimes in NZ, both of which utlised the types of weapons now banned by current legislation. Further changes to gun law are under review in consultation with community organisations.
@gaelsomerville5163
@gaelsomerville5163 2 года назад
It seems to me that the real difference between UK and USA is that the USA has a culture of individualism. It is all about 'my rights' as an individual. The UK is a long way from perfect in all of these issues but there is still (hanging on by a thread) a culture of community. Americans often call it socialism (I wish) and consider that dreadful, but it is why we went with gun control (protection of our communities is more important than individual desires to own guns) and why we have socialised medicine (giving everyone access to healthcare regardless of their income is more important than individual right to only pay for my own healthcare).
@DeadlyDan
@DeadlyDan 2 года назад
How little you know of British and specifically English history. Where do you think Americans got their individualism? Classical English Liberalism. English philosophers like John Stuart Mill, John Locke etc. Along with the Bill of Rights etc. They used that as inspiration to make a better system.
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
@Howling-Mad-Murdock 2 года назад
@@DeadlyDan They’re not talking about history, they’re talking about now.
@colin4685
@colin4685 2 года назад
@@DeadlyDan Make a better system? Well that clearly didn't work 😆😆
@gaelsomerville5163
@gaelsomerville5163 2 года назад
@@DeadlyDan Sorry i thought I was talking about where we are now not how we got there. Not saying one is good or bad just commenting on what seems different now or at least at the time the UK introduced tighter gun control.
@claudiavictoria3929
@claudiavictoria3929 2 года назад
Honestly, if I were American I'd be more concerned about general mental health than weapons per se.
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 2 года назад
Problem is...those two are a very bad mix!
@gavinreid2741
@gavinreid2741 2 года назад
But the number one cause of death in the USA of the under 21s is being shot.
@sahhull
@sahhull 2 года назад
The mental healthcare system in the USA is a very bad joke. They should fix that before banning or restricting anything
@michaeldaley5831
@michaeldaley5831 2 года назад
It’s sad when some feel that you need own a gun to protect yourself & your property,it’s never enters my mind that my house will be broken into,or worry when I walk the streets of London,& that I will be attacked. I wouldn’t want to live in a society having those worries on my mind.or is it that some Americans think they still live in the old western days in Tombstone at the ok corral?
@helvete983
@helvete983 2 года назад
My thinking is if you can afford a gun you can afford a very good security system instead. Modern technology is making them better all the time to the point where you'll get a call if someone approaches your door. I think a lot of gun owners have small dick syndrome.
@DeadlyDan
@DeadlyDan 2 года назад
You must live a sheltered life. Where I grew up it's not uncommon to have molotovs thrown into houses for dodgy drug deals, people getting stabbed, raped, assaulted, mugged. It's all very common in any working class area. There are issues with acid attacks, young girls getting acid thrown at their faces. 'honour' killings. The list goes on. The absence of guns has no impact on reducing crime. For the record also, the UK has a huge issue with illegal firearms.
@Aeglos88
@Aeglos88 2 года назад
While you joke about people thinking they live in the old west, for some people the situation isn't that dissimilar. Sure, over here in Europe (Netherlands for me) where population density is super high, the police will probably be at your door in a few minutes. Say you live in buttfuck nowhere in Montana or something, and the police are 30 minutes or longer away, you'd feel a lot safer if you have a gun at home. Not to mention coyotes, mountain lions etc. while all we've got are foxes. I used to think Americans were paranoid, but you can't project one situation on another. I do however think it is ridiculous how easy it is to get a gun.
@baylessnow
@baylessnow 2 года назад
@@DeadlyDan Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing you're in or near London?
@FortisConscius
@FortisConscius 2 года назад
@@baylessnow London, or Glasgow, or parts of Northern Ireland... ;)
@hanifleylabi8071
@hanifleylabi8071 2 года назад
He seems to have lost 10 million people from the UK!
@DropdudeJohn
@DropdudeJohn 2 года назад
If only we could
@drivingiron
@drivingiron 2 года назад
Agreed. 56 million is the approximate population of England.
@jamesbriton5545
@jamesbriton5545 2 года назад
He left the Jocks out! 🤣
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 2 года назад
@@DropdudeJohn I absolutely agree. When are you leaving?
@Westcountrynordic
@Westcountrynordic 2 года назад
He says in a pinned comment on the video that he had made a mistake on the number of people living in the UK at the time. He also made a correction on the number of gun deaths in 2018 saying there was 30 and not 60
@hedydd2
@hedydd2 2 года назад
I love how the Americans always need to make excuses for their horrendous, world leading, gun crime and homicide rate
@Lnch4ALion
@Lnch4ALion 2 года назад
React to Aussie gun laws after port Arthur massacre. The US could learn a thing or 2 about keeping guns away from nutters
@pigstrotters4198
@pigstrotters4198 2 года назад
Jeff Jefferies mentioned Pt.Arthur in this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0rR9IaXH1M0.html
@Dr_KAP
@Dr_KAP 2 года назад
I’m Australian. 6 years ago a schizophrenic patient escaped from hospital and tried to get hold of a gun. He had to eventually settle for a butchers knife. He went on a mad rampage through a shopping centre and launched straight at my daughter and her friends. She had the presence of mind to grab her friends and hurdle over a hedge where they watched the attack end with police shooting him in the thigh. He survived. No one was killed. A woman was injured from the ricochet from the police bullet. She recovered. I have NO DOUBT IN MY MIND my daughter would not be alive had he been able to secure a gun that day.
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 года назад
Shooting a dangerous suspect in the thigh is very risky as they can still hurt someone after a limb shot. In the UK they aim for the torso and they shoot to kill, not maim. Glad your daughter and her friends are ok. Sorry for anyone who was killed.
@Dr_KAP
@Dr_KAP 2 года назад
@@crowbar9566 he was cornered by that point no one in the way and a wall in front - she did good to bring him down and police were able to jump on him and get the knife. There was an investigation into whether she needed to shoot him at all and my daughter was a key witness. No one killed as I said.
@YearRoundHibernater
@YearRoundHibernater 2 года назад
Good video although he's wrong about the ability to have a firearm being a privilege and not a right here in the UK. English citizens have a right to guns given to them in the English Bill of Rights (which predates the constitution) but that right is restricted by legislation because it's not 1698 anymore and the world is a little different from back them.
@maconescotland8996
@maconescotland8996 2 года назад
Same applies to Scots and Welsh citizens. As explained legislation in the Six Counties differs.
@lenroddis5933
@lenroddis5933 2 года назад
@Dun no The Constitution may well make the ownership of guns legal, but does it mention ammunition?
@lenroddis5933
@lenroddis5933 2 года назад
@Dun no Maybe you can explain why just about every civilised democracy, and that includes the French Republic, can remove a despotic governments at the ballot box, as can the USA, without any need for an armed militia. Maybe it's just American exceptionalism at work, along with an exceptionally expensive health care system (without concomitantly superior outcomes), an exceptionally low position on international education tables, an exceptionally high infant mortality rate etc..
@quatrecheeze
@quatrecheeze 2 года назад
@Dun no what do you think they meant by "well regulated"?
@quatrecheeze
@quatrecheeze 2 года назад
@Dun no thanks for your reply, that's very interesting Why do you suppose that the restrictions on obtaining (for example) a cannon are not seen as an infringement of the right to bear arms, whereas putting that kind of check in front of the ability to own a handgun might be? Surely bear arms is bear arms?
@neilthewheelio
@neilthewheelio 2 года назад
This topic is a minefield of opinion and reasoning. everytime I hear about a mass shooting in the USA, I appreciate our gun laws even more. To many of us Brits I would bet my mortgage that given a choice, we would not want guns to be freely available. Even our everyday police don't wear a firearm. I believe the USA is so far down the road of gun ownership that no amount of pushback is achievable.
@jamesmason7262
@jamesmason7262 2 года назад
I am a uk citizen and legally own several guns. The first thing I'd say is no gun or knife has ever jumped up and killed someone. It's the person behind it that did the killing. Therefore in my opinion it's inadequate vetting that is the major problem. Secondly in the majority of gun related deaths the firearm is not legally held. Finally if you mention "home defence " as a reason when being vetted you are extremely unlikely to be granted a licence.
@dominadors4795
@dominadors4795 2 года назад
@@jamesmason7262 part of the reason our Gun Laws are so successful is because they have the support from our responsible Gun owners who store, train with and use their guns appropriately. In the US seems more wrapped up with cultural identity and politics, and fear that if somebody breaks in, that person will have a gun. I am happy to live in a country where a burglar is not likely to have a fun because of the extra time attached to carrying one 😀
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 2 года назад
@@jamesmason7262 Agreed, weapons don't kill people, people kill people and that was reiterated on US news a couple of days ago BUT what should have been said was that you shouldn't put the weapon in the hand of someone who could kill someone else. As you may know, paranoid police forces in UK have knee jerked with the suspension of licenses for legitimate users, who can't then afford the appeals process after the Plymouth shootings where inadequate scrutiny was made of the license holder. I am fortunate to be within a police licensing authority that deals with licensing very professionally. One of the issues with the current checks is the reliance on the applicant's GP to give a statement on fitness to hold a firearms license. There are two issues with this: 1) Some GPs are refusing to do so on ethical grounds as they don't support gun ownership and 2) Other GPs see this as yet another payday on top of their grossly inflated salaries and I believe that my GP is charging £200 for that statement, never mind that very few if any GPs are qualified in making a psychiatric assessment.
@jamesmason7262
@jamesmason7262 2 года назад
@@clivewilliams3661 couldn't agree more. My GP and indeed every doctor in the practice refuse to provide this service. I had to use the services of an outside body I found on line. They were late getting the information to me. Fortunately I am also in a good area and have a good relationship with the police so they just ignored it for a few days. What made made matters worse after Hungerford was in their ignorance political parties saw it as a way to obtain votes and kept pushing for more restrictions.
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 2 года назад
The ones that are doing mass shootings seem to have bought their weapons legally, in general. There must be some way of at least trying to keep guns out of mentality ill people's hands and the best way right now is GP (as well as the familyfriends)references as they can't all be personally related to the applicant and must have a profession or hold a certain status in the community. So right now I think it's just about right, maybe not perfect.
@davidjohndry1
@davidjohndry1 2 года назад
In the UK one-question that must be answered is, "Would you use this weapon to defend yourself?" If the answer is, "Yes." the licence is revoked.
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
@Howling-Mad-Murdock 2 года назад
Are you sure about this? A (admittedly quick) search shows that you can use a legally owned firearm to defend yourself if doing so is proportional to the threat.
@FortisConscius
@FortisConscius 2 года назад
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock You can't have intended to when you applied for a license, so yes you can't get a gun license for self defence but obviously you couldn't predict the future... Same deal with any weapon to defend yourself. It can't have been intended as a weapon, you ought to have a bat AND a ball, intended for sport but you can, if attacked, beat the snot out of someone with said bat. ;) Motive matters in court.
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 2 года назад
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock Same in Norway. Obtaining a gun for the purpose of self defense is not "a good reason". Essentially you have only 3 legitimate reasons to obtain a gun: Hunting/Work (the most used), Sports (must be member of a sports shooting club), and Collector (very hard to obtain with many strict criteria). If you DO have a gun for one of those reasons - yet end up using it to protect yourself; proportionality would certainly be part of it, but what would be scrutinized would be if you had a chance to retreat. Killing somebody over protecting property is not gonna hold in court. Trivia: I worked with a guy that had a license for "cannon" and "mortar" here in Norway. Both stored in his garage in full working order. He used those in 1700s war reenactment s.
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
@Howling-Mad-Murdock 2 года назад
@@FortisConscius That makes sense, thanks for clarification.
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
@Howling-Mad-Murdock 2 года назад
@@jarls5890 I guess my comment arose because the way it was written seemed very open ended. I could easily understand if the question was why do you want a gun and you answered “to defend myself”, but the law appears out of step with the way the original post was written.
@davidshattock9522
@davidshattock9522 2 года назад
If in UK you tell the visiting policeyou say you want it for home defence it's a permanent no for ever ,you have just banned yourself from firearms
@davedavids57
@davedavids57 2 года назад
Personal protection is actually a reason to apply for a firearms licence in the whole of the UK. It's fairly straight forward in Northern Ireland (however you do have to show you have a special threat). In Britain if you want to carry and own a hand gun for self defence you have to apply directly to the Home Office under Section 5 of the 1968 firearms act. The UK government doesn't issue statistics on section 5 licences (for security reasons) but it is believed there are several hundred licences issued in Britain for the concealed carry of self defence weapons (mainly to ex intelligence officers, police and politicians). I do though agree if you applied to your local police for an FAC for self defence you would be most likely seen as being paranoid and banned (or if not directed to the Home Office).
@SojournFive
@SojournFive 2 года назад
You have a great grasp of this and your opinion is right. Donald Trump said that school teachers in the USA should be trained to carry guns! Well if my childs school had to do this then I would not be sending that child to school! Imagine going somewhere where it is possible that you might get shot and killed. I wouldn't go there and would not expect or let my child to go there either!
@ericwilliams2317
@ericwilliams2317 2 года назад
I agree with you (and I say this as a UK gun owner). I think the only people who should 'expect' at some time in their careers to come into contact with firearms being used against them are the military and the police. But children or teachers?? It's a screwed up world we're living in that's for sure.
@christinamoxon
@christinamoxon 2 года назад
Just wait until the first teacher suffering mental health issues takes that out in the classroom by threatening to shoot the kids. Or actually shooting kids. Stupid. Arming everyone in the country won't stop shootings.
@allisalie101
@allisalie101 2 года назад
The UK is similar to here in Australia with our gun laws, although they do also vary over here from State to State. In Victoria, in the South, we're less strict for the most part compared to the UK, but when it comes to the types of long arms you can acquire, we're actually a little more strict as you can acquire some types we can't. Mind you we can acquire more variations of handgun once licensed. The common denominator though is the background checks, to ensure only those deemed as responsible are able to become owners. Air powered rifles also have to be registered here and the licenses are catergorised depending upon fire-arm type etc. Obviously there's a lot more to it, but I'm sure you get the drift. My point for now though is that we too, have essentially stopped all mass shootings, as our idea of freedom, which I believe is similar to that of the Brits, is to not live in a society where the need to carry firearms becomes a necessity as a means to potentially survive. We have them for sport, vermin control, with some blokes making a living out of this, and livestock management. My kids don't need to train at school for potential shooters, they can play outside until well after dark, and hey, I don't have to lock up the house when we go out. How's that for being "Free"?
@RealMr_Wonderful
@RealMr_Wonderful 2 года назад
Agree with almost everything you say except for the part about not having to lockup your house when you leave it. You must live way outside any major city in Australia, especially Melbourne and Sydney.
@allisalie101
@allisalie101 2 года назад
@@RealMr_Wonderful Yep, your right in that I do live outside of the burbs these days mate, but truth be known, there are plenty of places in Melbourne, which is where I grew up, that you can still live in, where you don't need to lock your doors. For the most part, the need for security is more due to paranoia as opposed to necessity. But hey, I still don't need to where I am, and as far as my life goes, that's all that matters to me. So my initial comment remains the same, which still beats the shit out of living in the STATES. How's that for being free?
@simonorourke4465
@simonorourke4465 2 года назад
The thing is it isnt about taking away peoples guns it's obvious that isnt going to happen it's far to late for that, it's about introducing proper sensible legislation to control those guns and the purchase of new ones. There should be proper records, background checks and some kind of register of gun ownership, legal ages should be raised and set at a federal level, it's insane that you cant even drink until your 21 in many states but can buy a gun at 18 in some of those some places. It also needs to become accepted that some people with certain histories of violence and mental illness must not be allowed to buy firearms for obvious reasons. Guns and ammunition also should not be so widely available and should probably be more expensive, and certain types of gun shouldn't be available to the general public. After all it is literally written in the text of the 2nd amendment that although there is a right to beat arms it should be well regulated, a fact that the NRA and the right tend to forget when quoting the document.
@pigstrotters4198
@pigstrotters4198 2 года назад
There are more than 393 million civilian-owned firearms in the United States, or enough for every man, woman and child to own one and still have 67 million guns left over. (This means then that there are persons with more than 1 firearm at home). Mass shootings, far from quelling demand for guns, actually spur purchases from those concerned that lawmakers could enact gun-control measures, the FBI checks have shown repeatedly. Investors know this. after the Texas Church Shooter with the talk of "gun constrictions", shares of Smith & Wesson Brands Inc. rose 8.9% to $15.19 in New York and Sturm Ruger & Co., the maker of handguns, rose 6.1% to $67.51. One question on the application form asks "Have you ever been committed to a mental institution?". Maybe not, but one can draw their own conclusions. You're right....it's too late.
@bearzerger
@bearzerger 2 года назад
Is it really too late? If the government were to offer to buy back guns without asking questions where the gun came from and offering to register any gun free of charge as long as the owner passes a background check would it really not work to get rid of a lot of guns and do away with a lot of the unregistered ones? Buy back programs have been pretty effective in other places. It would already be a huge success if instead of 101 guns per 100 people there would only be 20 or 30.
@pigstrotters4198
@pigstrotters4198 2 года назад
@@bearzerger In America? Never ..America has a gun-culture and offering money to take in guns will never work. They are too much in love with their guns, almost as we Europeans are with our cars.
@bearzerger
@bearzerger 2 года назад
@@pigstrotters4198 I've seen stats of how many people live paycheck to paycheck. If people could get a month's salary by selling a second and a third gun they own but no longer have a use for, I don't think they wouldn't at least consider it. Especially if it was without any bureaucratic run-around. You just drive to your local police station, hand over the gun or guns and receive a check. No questions where the gun comes from, whether it's registered or anything. A quick drive and you get several hundred bucks for it depending on what kind of gun you handed over. There may be more guns than people in the US, but that doesn't mean literally everyone has a gun. Only around 40% of all households do, meaning those households on average have around 2.5 guns. So let's not say it's impossible without at least having tried it.
@LG-cz6ls
@LG-cz6ls 2 года назад
@@pigstrotters4198 Bizarre comparison.
@ricci8497
@ricci8497 2 года назад
What the video doesn't cover is the fact that guns actually used to be commonplace in the UK but the key difference between the UK and the US laws is the UK laws moved with the political climate and the times. The right to keep and bear arms had originated in England during the reign of Henry II with the 1181 Assize of Arms, and developed as part of common law. After the Jacobite rebellions of 1715 and 1745, harsher laws providing, amongst other things, for disarming the Highlands of Scotland, were enacted by the Parliament of Great Britain: the Disarming Acts of 1716 and 1725, and the Act of Proscription 1746. Then the laws were changed again the first British firearm controls were introduced as part of the Vagrancy Act 1824, which was set up in a reaction against the large number of people roaming the country with weapons brought back from the Napoleonic wars. It allowed the police to arrest "any person with any gun, pistol, hanger [a light sword], cutlass, bludgeon or other offensive weapon ... with intent to commit a felonious act". It was followed by the Night Poaching Acts 1828 and 1844, the Game Act 1831, and the Poaching Prevention Act 1862, which made it an offence to shoot game illegally by using a firearm. Changes in 1870 made it a requirement to have a license to bear a gun outside of the home and was done merely as a way to generate income for the Government at ten shillings a year. Then the laws were changed in 1903 with the Pistols Act. Then again in 1920 for the Firearms Act then that was changed once again in 1937 and 1968, 1988 then 1997 after the Dunblane school shooting. There was an affinity with firearms in the country but attitudes and the mentality of the people changed and the laws did. Unlike in the US where it will fight tooth and nail against any change simply for the sake of doing so and holding up a constitutional right more vermently than the bible.
@elaineforan4751
@elaineforan4751 2 года назад
I wonder, does it help that UK doesn't have a constitution to defend these rights? The second amendment is constantly being mentioned in the USA, as if suggesting a referendum is some type of act of rebellion and 'unAmerican'.
@jim-bob-outdoors
@jim-bob-outdoors 2 года назад
UK style gun laws would of helped in the US years ago. Its too late now, the situation is out of control. I would hate to live in a place where people are scared to send there children to school. 😒
@richardoldfield6714
@richardoldfield6714 2 года назад
Gun laws in the USA are totally stupid. The 2nd amendment speaks of a "well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State ..." However, most private citizens are NOT part of a militia, nor is citizen ownership of guns today necessary for State security (I'm sure the US military is more than capable of providing for said state security). Moreover, with around 400 million guns in circulation in the USA, gun ownership can hardly be said to be "well regulated".
@cerdic6305
@cerdic6305 2 года назад
Whilst I agree that American gun laws are ridiculous, the 2nd amendment was intended primarily to be a protection for the citizenry and the states against the federal government. When the constitution was being written there was a huge debate between federalists and anti-federalists, so the anti-federalists wanted a guaranteed right for people to carry firearms in order to set up militias against the federal army if it ever tried anything.
@originalbadboy32
@originalbadboy32 2 года назад
The irony is the UK is probably to blame given our role in the civil war.
@nelad
@nelad 2 года назад
Alongside tighter gun laws, Australia ran a "buyback" and national gun amnesty. They have run several since 1996 which has taken out large numbers of unlicensed weapons. The UK and other countries do this at regular intervals.
@sahhull
@sahhull 2 года назад
I was never paid by the UK buy back scheme. So I was robbed. The police convieniently have no record of me having a licence or firearm. They will not accept the receipt they gave me as proof of ownership. Lesson learned.
@paulbromley6687
@paulbromley6687 2 года назад
Population of the UK given is wrong by about 11 million people as far as I can see 67million ish at last count
@marklatimer7333
@marklatimer7333 2 года назад
Home Protection has never been a valid reason to own a gun in the UK, even before all the firearm laws were tightened (which incidentally was the result of two separate tragedies carried out by lunatics who legally held a FAC in 1987 & 1996) it was difficult to get a Class 1 Fire Arm Certificate and putting 'For Self Defence' on the form would have guaranteed a refusal.
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 года назад
Self defence is a valid reason allowed in Northern Ireland.
@marklatimer7333
@marklatimer7333 2 года назад
@@crowbar9566 Sorry should read Great Britain.
@martynsmith9640
@martynsmith9640 2 года назад
Why would you want to own a firearm when you have armed law enforcement?
@trevford6391
@trevford6391 2 года назад
Pest control, deer stalking, target sports, etc.
@seancurran8108
@seancurran8108 2 года назад
Because they love guns it's a cultural thing.. cowboys..every Quentin Tarintino film. Media + the weapons industry creating a climate of fear
@ZaPpaul
@ZaPpaul 2 года назад
My personal opinion is that there is no place in a civilised society for weapons designed to kill other humans.
@TheToledoTrumpton
@TheToledoTrumpton 2 года назад
I agree with you morally. From a practical standpoint however, I think there must also be a level of public confidence in the government, to provide security and protection from crime, on a national and individual level. In the USA, initially the Government was not able to give confidence in protecting the nation without a militia. Over time, once WW2 was finished with, that became a lack of confidence in the police to deter or prevent crime at an individual level.
@ZaPpaul
@ZaPpaul 2 года назад
@@TheToledoTrumpton Yes, but in a civilised society there is no place for crimes that need to be enforced with weapons designed to kill other humans.
@TheToledoTrumpton
@TheToledoTrumpton 2 года назад
@@ZaPpaul Yes, but that isn't practical. There is no correlation between crime and civilization. How civilized a society is, reflects its attitude to crime, not its prevalence. I think you are talking more about violence in general rather than illegal violence. Crime is dependent solely on prevention and deterrent, not on civilization. Violence in general, I would agree is uncivilized, and we remove illegal perpetrators of violence from civilization and lock them up.
@ZaPpaul
@ZaPpaul 2 года назад
@@TheToledoTrumpton Oh I am not talking about anywhere that exists. I am thinking for future success of the world in the far distance. There will always of course be greed, corruption and crime, but society can and should live without guns in the populace.
@TheToledoTrumpton
@TheToledoTrumpton 2 года назад
@@ZaPpaul As, I said I agree with that. Can and should, are both philosophical terms. But from a practical standpoint we are not talking about magicking all guns out of existence. Criminalizing gun ownership, when there is a huge demand for guns is like criminalizing abortion when there is a huge demand for abortion. There should be no need nor demand for guns in a civilized society.
@davidbrayshaw6162
@davidbrayshaw6162 2 года назад
The biggest surprise I had when I visited America! I was staying in a home in a reasonably wealthy area of a city and on New Years night at midnight guns went off! People shooting guns into the air. I asked about the bangs thinking they were fireworks and was told no that’s actually guns! That does not happen here in the UK, the bangs are fireworks. That’s how it hit home to me! The family I was staying with kept a gun. But didn’t use it. I was asked and I said I didn’t want to hold it let alone fire it, which surprised them! And these were genuine Democrat liberal people!
@JoJo-zl7qh
@JoJo-zl7qh 2 года назад
I’ve lived all over the USA all my life in many cities in multiple states and I have never once seen someone shoot a gun in the air for any reason. Idk where you were at in the US but that is not a normal circumstance in most areas in USA. Lots of fireworks on New Years and 4th of July but never seen someone pull out a gun to celebrate a holiday. Just didn’t want ppl to think this story is common in USA it’s not at all.
@callumscott953
@callumscott953 2 года назад
The number of guns in the US is an issue but you're thinking about it from the wrong perspective. The number of guns is a product of the laws. Therefore the laws ARE the issue. Stricter laws means less guns.
@megadesu69
@megadesu69 2 года назад
How does that make sense if most of the guns used in crime are illegally obtained? I think the bigger problem is a cultural (and dare I say it) racial issue. I'm referring to gangs with that last part.
@micko11154
@micko11154 2 года назад
@@megadesu69 It makes definite and obvious sense. The laws are too lax in USA and any clown can just walk in off the street and buy a weapon in a majority of states. if you can't see that, then you have a perception problem.
@grahvis
@grahvis 2 года назад
@@megadesu69 . If you are caught in possession of an unlicensed gun in the UK, you are looking at a prison sentence. Given the person you are going to commit a crime against will not have a gun, the risk of carrying one is not worth it.
@callumscott953
@callumscott953 2 года назад
@@megadesu69 There are gangs in the UK, there are gangs in France there are gangs in every country on the planet. Where society exists, so do gangs and criminals. Yet, other countries don't have the same problem. Criminals and gangs use guns and obtain guns in the US because there are so many and because they are so easy to obtain. In other countries, gangs and criminals don't have that luxury because they are so difficult to obtain. Guns are rare even among criminals. They tend to turn to knife crime over gun crime. So yes, the laws are the issue. There are crazy people and criminals as much in Europe as there are in the US
@watfordjc
@watfordjc 2 года назад
The law is really strict in Arizona: The Arizona Supreme Court ruled Tuscan broke the law when they destroyed guns. As many a US state statute says: guns must be sold, not destroyed.
@Mirtillas1
@Mirtillas1 2 года назад
It chills me to the bone knowing that pretty much every household in the US owns a firearm. The fact that you can buy a gun without any proper checks it’s terrifying.
@kenchristie9214
@kenchristie9214 2 года назад
There are enough bought firearms to arm every American (man, woman and child) and still have about 3,500 to spare.
@gazza9463
@gazza9463 2 года назад
I believe some states in the USA do have very strict firearms laws. However ,there are states where the laws appear lax to say the least.
@elaineforan4751
@elaineforan4751 2 года назад
I believe over half of legally held firearms in the US end up killing or wounding the owner or a family member.
@JoJo-zl7qh
@JoJo-zl7qh 2 года назад
@@elaineforan4751 that just isn’t true at all and doesn’t even make sense. There are literally millions of guns owned in the USA. Something like 65% of homes in US have guns. If half had accidents with their guns we would have millions of gun accidents and have far less ppl alive in USA now.
@elaineforan4751
@elaineforan4751 2 года назад
@@JoJo-zl7qh I presume the majority of those would be death by suicide. Edit: In fact, depending on the year between 55 and 60% of death by firearm in the US is suicide. Suicide by firearm accounts for roughly half of all suicides in the US. Meaning that firearms are more likely to kill the owner than any bad guy. Suicide by guns in Ireland and the UK are very rare, although it's not utopia over here, people can't generally access guns when they are at their lowest. We certainly don't have issues with 2yo accidentally killing their parents with a firearm. The US has a gun problem.
@JamesChiles
@JamesChiles 2 года назад
Without going too deep into the politics, your summary about the relative political spectrums in the US and UK was correct, there's actually very little overlap (or even none at all). By UK standards, both the Republicans and Democrats are pretty right wing, conservative parties (Rep being further right than Dem obviously). By US standards, the nominally right wing Conservative party in the UK would be seen as progressively left wing, perhaps even more than that, and the actual left wing would probably be written off as Communists. 'Liberal' and 'Socialist' don't have the same negative weight in the UK that they do in the US.
@karehaqt
@karehaqt 2 года назад
"By US standards, the nominally right wing Conservative party in the UK would be seen as progressively left wing" Were you on drugs when you wrote this?
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 года назад
@@karehaqt He's correct in that the US political centre ground is to the right of the UK's centre ground - so essentially many US democrats are more Tory than the British Tories. And there isn't anything that equates to Labour.
@Dr_KAP
@Dr_KAP 2 года назад
Same deal in Australia! Our Conservative party (the Liberal party) is much closer to the Centre of the spectrum than the Republicans.. could even be considered left wing by Americans 😂
@JamesChiles
@JamesChiles 2 года назад
​@@karehaqt Nope. The Conservatives have introduced. for instance; strict gun controls, and same-sex marriage. I don't think they are lefty liberals by any stretch, but I'm also not sure they would be welcome at any Republican convention. Some of the senior Tory figures are horrific people, but I'm not sure they are representative of Conservatisim as a whole.
@kenchristie9214
@kenchristie9214 2 года назад
That's because those who rant Communist, Socialism and Liberalism have a fascist mentality.
@spankflaps1365
@spankflaps1365 2 года назад
Number of gun deaths in USA in 2020 was 45000. Number of gun deaths in England/Wales in 2020 was 30. Also the U.K. police don’t carry guns. In 1940 (WW2) Hitler mounted a full invasion of England (Operation Sealion) but the British public were still not given small arms. It was left to the military. Fortunately the RAF dealt with it and Hitler cancelled the invasion.
@ian757
@ian757 2 года назад
A factor in the massive difference in gun deaths between the U.K. and the U.S.A. is that the guns you can own in the U.S. is that the calibre can be so much bigger and that they can be fully automatic.
@victoreem2
@victoreem2 2 года назад
.22's are 50cal in us and their bolt action rifles are fully semiautomatic
@FortisConscius
@FortisConscius 2 года назад
Fully automatic guns were banned in the US around 1930's, I think.
@polemanme260
@polemanme260 2 года назад
In the UK you can never ever use home defence as a reason for possessing a gun. I was a police officer for 30 years and I can recall one instance where a person was a collector user of american mid 18th century rifles. All weapons must be specified on the licence and the serial number noted. Also all ammunition must be recorded and stored separately to the weapon. So for instnace no more than 50 rounds per weapon could be owned at any one time. This person showed me that his rifles were stored in an unlocked cheat in his attic space. The ammunition was in another chest in the same attic space with a poor padlock on it. As he handed the weapons to me to inspect I secured them all and the ammunition and removed them from his possession and took them to our Firearms department. His licence was cancelled and he was forced to sell his weapons without ever seeing them again because he was irresponsible in their storage. That level of control is given to all weapons even shot guns. Also you are never allowed to carry a loaded weapon in a public place even if you are en route to a range or a shoot of any kind. In comparison the USA our laws are sensible and I think about right. The USA gun laws are like a circular firing squad. Just mad.
@caroldalton3130
@caroldalton3130 2 года назад
I think the most worrying aspect of this awful tragedy is that a 16 year old was able to walk in off the street and actually obtain this powerful weapon and nobody questioned it. He didn't have to apply to own it. He wasn't challenged. When a 16 year old buys a weapon as dangerous as this one it should've been flagged. The shop owner can't challenge him but surely he can contact local police to inform them that a 16 year old is on the streets with this weapon. Then I suppose that is against his right to bear arms! I would despair because you just know this is going to happen again!
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 2 года назад
Wasn't the Uvalde shooter 18?
@PDVism
@PDVism 2 года назад
@@jarls5890 You are correct, he was 18. Question though, does him being 18 make it any better? Why does any 18 year old need two AR-15's and several hundred rounds of ammo?
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 2 года назад
@@PDVism I agree. Him being 18 does not make it better.
@robertjohnson-taylor100
@robertjohnson-taylor100 2 года назад
In 2020 in the USA 4345 children were killed in gun related incidents, death in car incidents were 30% lower than this.
@R0swell5104
@R0swell5104 2 года назад
Another important difference here is that in the UK, self defence or home defence is not accepted as a legitimate reason to own a firearm or indeed any weapon. Indeed if you even have a golf club or baseball bat which you have be found to be keeping at home solely to injure an intruder, you could be charged if you use it. Basically we don't want people to be armed either at home or in public and the vast majority of people support this.
@headhunter1945
@headhunter1945 2 года назад
It's not 101 guns per person, it's 101 guns per 100 people.
@menocat8353
@menocat8353 2 года назад
As an Australian with similar gun laws, I thought it was amusing that your reason for owning a gun was for home protection. You see when no idiots have guns anymore its not a very good excuse a cricket or baseball bat does just as good.
@terrythomas3755
@terrythomas3755 2 года назад
It's a cultural thing. British born and bred many decades ago, I have never been acquainted with anyone owning a gun.
@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh
@MichaelJohnson-vi6eh 2 года назад
I like the idea that you have to go to the cops to get permission to buy a gun. Even if they say yes, you are automatically on their radar. In the UK, they are very concentrated so calling the police is absolutely the best idea in every case. There are large areas of the US where it is just not practical to wait for the police if you are in danger. Also - if you sell an unlicensed weapon or hold an unlicensed weapon you are serious trouble in Great Britain. You dont even have to fire it.
@helvete983
@helvete983 2 года назад
Yes and bear in mind also that larger guns like shotguns tend to be in more rural communities, so your local bobby would know exactly who owns a legal gun and why on his beat.
@lk-music
@lk-music 2 года назад
If you carry anything that resembles a firearm, you can get 12 months in prison. This is why toy guns no longer look real, Nerf guns are brightly-coloured for a reason.
@PDVism
@PDVism 2 года назад
That's the really crazy thing, in the USA there are lots of places that don't require a license at all. There has been a push even in those states that do have them to do away with them. In other words, a cop can't even arrest you for not having a license because there's no way for them to tell if the gun in your glove box is legally yours or not. It's utterly insane.
@tonybaker55
@tonybaker55 2 года назад
The question is, why do most Americans feel the need to protect their homes with a firearm? Is it easier to break into an American home?
@boli2746
@boli2746 2 года назад
I remember a comvo with an american: me: we have gun crime and deaths in the UK her obviously! me: 57 deaths her :57,000 deaths yeah that sounds normal me: no, 57, in the last ten years her: you're lieng! me nope! *shows proof* her: obviously that's wrong! note: the numbers are not correct but close enough to 2012 figures it still gave the same responce.
@lucie4185
@lucie4185 2 года назад
I think a huge part of the problem is that guns can be sold more easily and marketed in the US for example you won't see adverts for guns on UK TV.
@michaelareay1037
@michaelareay1037 2 года назад
Are they advertised on the telly in the US? I don't think it would be worth it in the UK, it costs a lot to advertise on telly for a small target (no pun intended) audience who in all likelihood know exactly what they want to buy and where to get it anyway.
@claudiavictoria3929
@claudiavictoria3929 2 года назад
In Italy we have similar strict regulations however hunting weapons are quite common.
@petergaskin1811
@petergaskin1811 2 года назад
You're not allowed to own weapons in current military calibres unless I'm mistaken.
@johexxkitten
@johexxkitten 2 года назад
I’m in the uk and I hold a gun licence, but hold no gun... I had to get a gun licence that would permit me to hold gun powder & the components to make black powder. I have this because I handle gun powder for my re-enactment group where I trained as Cannon crew. By law our canon is taken apart and stored in separate locations & the black powder is stored elsewhere. So the entire cannon would take over 200 miles to bring it all together, but it will not fire until I arrive. Even when on site I have to keep my powder locked away safe and dry. I also keep the components separate until we’re ready for a display, so I mix on site, NEVER driving with the final product in my vehicle. It’s all VERY tightly regulated, if anything changes in my life I have to record this, so accidents, injuries, mental health issues & anything like police records, crimes, use of drugs etc could all remove my licence. But it does tend to scare folks when I say “oh yeah, my gun is a cannon, literally!”
@Steve-gc5nt
@Steve-gc5nt 2 года назад
Breaks my heart that the US just can't sort their guns out.
@helvete983
@helvete983 2 года назад
What is even more heart breaking is their supposed solution is more guns, when this recent massacre had police on the scene in minutes yet they simply failed to act. It took them over an hour to enter the building and kill the gunman.
@albin2232
@albin2232 2 года назад
If the Americans didn't have guns, they'd kill each other with spoons.
@megadesu69
@megadesu69 2 года назад
@@helvete983 You just proved that the solution is more armed citizens (in this case teachers or security guards). The cops often fail to act, whether because they are incapable or someone higher up orders them not to...
@helvete983
@helvete983 2 года назад
@@megadesu69 Then the answer is to have cops who can do the fucking job, not just give more random dickheads a gun in the hopes they don't freeze too. What makes you think a citizen or armed guard would act? Why should it be a teachers job to carry a firearm because your country if failing to protect children?
@MikeAG333
@MikeAG333 2 года назад
@@megadesu69 Are you not following? Your system doesn't work. You have 4 times the murder rate of the rest of the civilised world.......so flooding the place with guns is making you less safe, not more. You don't have to guess. We've done the experiment for you. Your system is killing your kids. Ours isn't.
@tonkerdog1
@tonkerdog1 2 года назад
If anyone broke into my house, id ask them to leave VERY sternly.
@DavePigott2000
@DavePigott2000 2 года назад
The second amendment specifies a "well regulated militia" - what actually exists isn't well regulated - it's a free-for-all. Here in the UK I enjoy going clay pigeon (skeet) shooting, and can do it any time - it's well controlled. I lived in the US but, like you, lived in New England - Mass to be precise - and the problem is much less there because state laws are somewhat tougher than in, say, Texas or Florida.
@xlerb_again_to_music7908
@xlerb_again_to_music7908 2 года назад
You got it. Well regulated. The freedom of the people to raise an army needs to be contingent on this. If your militia is not well regulated you get - random from isolated madmen to a mob :( Put them in the army and get them some discipline.
@dasy2k1
@dasy2k1 2 года назад
It seems to me as a brit that the USA already has a well regulated militia.... They call them the National Guard! (I think they are kind of like the TA here but not completely sure on that)
@PDVism
@PDVism 2 года назад
@@dasy2k1 Gun nuts in the USA love to ignore the National Guard just because it is indeed the 'well regulated militia' but because they are unable or unwilling to join it they think that if they buy some camo gear and a bunch of weapons that they would be able to stand up to the Federal government and there for stand up to the Army and the Marines and the Special forces. LMAOROFL
@pigstrotters4198
@pigstrotters4198 2 года назад
We saw that "well-"regulated militia last year fighting for their rights in Capitol Hill.
@petergaskin1811
@petergaskin1811 2 года назад
@@pigstrotters4198 Quite shocking to the average UK bloke is to walk down a street in America and see just your average gun fondler sauntering about tooled up for WW3 body armour and webbing included. Even more shocking is to be wandering around Walmart and see more of the same.
@stevedunn5546
@stevedunn5546 2 года назад
As a former licensed handgun owner in the U.K up till 1996 when they were banned my thoughts were hell don't ban them just have us check them in and out at the range instead of keeping them at home in a gun safe.
@lisannebaumholz5028
@lisannebaumholz5028 2 года назад
Hi Conner, always appreciate your videos. I'm Canadian and many policies/legislation around gun ownership are closer here to the UK rather than the US. However, because of our proximity to the US, there is some influence - we do not have a "right" to bear arms, but it is a privilege granted under conditions of licensing. However, some Canadians do adhere to the US view. One of the problematic things I find about the pro-gun advocates is the insistence that the problem is with which kind of individuals (disturbed, mentally deranged, evil, etc) are getting hold of the weapons but blocking any effort to strengthen the background check process. How does this make sense? If you don't have stringent checks (or any checks at all, beyond proof of age & money), how on earth do you expect weapons not to get in the wrong hands? (I know this differs by state.) Part of the legislation proposed by the Canadian government yesterday, besides a freezing of handgun sales or transfers, are restrictions on the amount of ammunition. Do hunters or sports shooters need hundreds of rounds of ammunition? Even in the "stand your ground" states, why would you need so many bullets? What a terribly sad way to live...
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 года назад
I read today Trudeau wants to ban handgun sales and transfers and eventually move to a mandatory buy-back scheme.
@stevebelam2378
@stevebelam2378 2 года назад
I live in Northern Ireland ,and yes despite the EU and US we are still very much part of the United Kingdom .We are able to possess Pistols and revolvers of any length ,and not the 12 inch law in GB ( that is the mainland ) apart from that our laws are in line with GB ,the amount of ammunition we can have is 1000 rounds per calibre of firearm you own so if you have 2 x 9mm you can only 1000 rounds ,this is for and to ease administration purposes as every sale is recorded on the firearms certificate and the gun shops records which are then sent to the police firearms branch I believe monthly .I know in Spain they are limited to 200 per month .I believe our pistol legislation is a legacy of the mainly US funded IRA terrorist campaign, and the number of people who required a Pistol for personal protection ie Ex Police and Soldiers who had threats and attempts on their lives ,Ironically known terrorist sympathisers both sides could also posses a ppw .
@jerzee3600
@jerzee3600 2 года назад
The reason the UK has less guns in the population is because of the gun laws and the checks and regulation. So yes US gun laws would reduce gun ownership in the uk. Interestingly the hand gun ban is a pretty recent thing in the uk and was a direct responce to hand guns being used in a school shooting. People were willing to give up their handguns because protecting our children was a higher priority.
@cyrus8886
@cyrus8886 2 года назад
Shit storm incoming Pick up popcorn 🍿
@lorrainecampbell9202
@lorrainecampbell9202 2 года назад
I’m not sure what side of the fence you sit on, but yes, this could get tasty.
@Whiteshirtloosetie
@Whiteshirtloosetie 2 года назад
As an English Brit. I use to work for the Ministry of Defence as a Civil Servant in my case for 21 years. I was at the time in a position if someone wanted to own a gun they could ask me if they were of sound mind or not to own one. Reality is neither myself or anyone else I knew or ever no one ever asked or wanted to own a gun. In the UK talk about guns and chances are no one gives a s***. I knew one person who owned a black powdered historic rifle where he had it locked safely in the roof of his house and only use for historic events. I have an ex-American USAF real good friend who defends the rights of guns in the USA and we talk in depth about this. We don't mind talking no holes barred and when talking about this his arguments makes sense to what the situation is. As such I totally understand and think that the problem the USA has is this is so much a total mind set that to suddenly change a Nation is so not going to happen over night. Problem you have is what if law abiding Americans all of a sudden gave up their guns by the millions. I think this is a valid argument that who then has the others still in posession not given up. The more looking into this subject from outside the more difficult and frustrating it becomes. It really makes me appreciate exact same thing of how come Russia is run by an evil despot yet ordinary sensible Russians allow themselves to be ruled by a total nut job despot. Conclusion is why just for once can't the answers be simple and others not make life so tragic or difficult for others.
@DrewBorrowdale
@DrewBorrowdale 2 года назад
I recently watch a video, and i wish i could remember which one it was, that showed that the majority of gun crimes in the US are committed with legally purchased and registered firearms. Turns out that movies and TV shows with dodgy guns sales taking place in the back streets are actually rare and mostly work of fiction. I think the same video showed how easy it is to get a gun from a shop, even a bank was giving them away when opening a new account :s
@jagjay8033
@jagjay8033 2 года назад
i watched a vid of a police chief caught selling impounded guns to gangs this was only a few weeks ago
@helvete983
@helvete983 2 года назад
It sounds like Jordan Klepper piece I watch a while back, but he has done a few on gun control.
@DrewBorrowdale
@DrewBorrowdale 2 года назад
@@jagjay8033 Well, i guess if the criminals aren't selling back ally weapons then the cops will have to do it themselves lmao.
@DrewBorrowdale
@DrewBorrowdale 2 года назад
@@helvete983 could have been, i watch a few vids in a row and i lose track of what i've watched :s
@chrislyne377
@chrislyne377 2 года назад
The population of the UK is 67m. The guy in the vid mixed it up as 56m is the population of England alone. I imagine he looked up gun violence stats which are broken down by constituent countries and mixed up the England stats with whole UK stats
@julianperkins81
@julianperkins81 2 года назад
We've had 2 major mass shooting events in the last 30 years in the UK, Hungerford and Dunblane. As a result gun ownership has become very difficult. We're not even comfortable with our police being armed. In the US you seem very comfortable with events such as Uvade ("hopes and prayers" etc), and the use of firearms as an increasingly common form of suicide. I do not understand this collective insanity, perhaps you could explain?
@Westcountrynordic
@Westcountrynordic 2 года назад
Correction you are forgetting the Whitehaven shootings in June 2010 and the more recent shooting in Plymouth which however you could argue as not "major" mass shooting as only 5 were killed compared to 19 at Hungerford, 17 at Dunblane and 12 in Whitehaven.
@simonorourke4465
@simonorourke4465 2 года назад
Terror attacks happen but they are very rare and having a load of people running around with guns wouldn't help much. I am happy and feel safe in the uk with our firearm laws. Also you do realise that mass shootings are a total,y terror attacks aswell we just choose to call the something else. They are pretty much the same thing it is just a matter of semantics. Also even if knives are used it is far far more difficult to commit a mass killing with a knife than it is with a gun, and in the case of bombs as I stated earlier terror attacks with bombs do happen but they are very rare in the grand scheme of things.
@Westcountrynordic
@Westcountrynordic 2 года назад
@@simonorourke4465 Was having the discussion with my partner earlier if mass shootings are terror attacks or not. It came down to the reason behind the shooting to us. Of the last 4 mass shootings in the last 35 years none of them had what we would call a terrorism reason. Thankfully yes terror attacks with bombs are now rare in the UK. Sadly not the case when I was growing up in the 70s and early 80s.
@jona826
@jona826 2 года назад
I think because the 2nd Amendment is so enshrined in the US Constitution, Americans feel almost like it's their duty to own a gun to exercise their constitutional rights as an "armed militia". We might not like our government sometimes but nobody in Britain seriously thinks the citizenry needs to be armed in case the government becomes tyrannical.
@kenchristie9214
@kenchristie9214 2 года назад
The problem is too many police officers in the U.S. act like the Gestapo.
@roberth.7260
@roberth.7260 2 года назад
Americans obviously live in far greater fear of gun violence than we in the UK do. The concept of 'home invasion' is a US concept. Here in the UK we lock our doors to prevent burglary, but no-one has any fear that the robber will be armed with anything more lethal that a screwdriver. If you had a gun and shot an unarmed burglar over here then you would probably be charged with manslaughter unless you could prove that you were in real fear for your life. If very few people have guns then no-one needs to be fearful of gun violence. However, there are more guns that people in the US, so fear of gun violence is understandable. The question is whether there should be more checks on mental health and whether semi-automatic machine guns should be allowed unchecked in the US. This would help reduce the number of mass shootings, but probably not much more than that. Most US citizens are actually shot by someone they know. There are more unintended killings than mass killings; there are more suicides by gunshot than murders.
@garydalziel9676
@garydalziel9676 2 года назад
Looking in from Scotland, the whole home defence argument is strange, just how bad is the burglary rate in the States, and don't most burglaries occur when the property is empty.
@crowbar9566
@crowbar9566 2 года назад
They do have violent home invasions (it even happens in the UK) . A lot of Americans live in remote rural areas (yes, even more remote than the Highlands) where the nearest police maybe quite a long way away.
@garydalziel9676
@garydalziel9676 2 года назад
@@crowbar9566 I get what you're saying, grew up in rural Scotland, moved to what would be cried rough areas, to this day, I would be hard pushed to name anyone who has been burgled.
@eardwulf785
@eardwulf785 2 года назад
So I live in the UK and I've never owned a gun, never fired a gun and cannot even remember the last time I saw a gun but I'm banned for life from owning a gun. 🤔 So in 1998 I was sentenced to 3 years imprisonment and anyone who receives 3 years or more is slapped with an automatic mandatory lifetime ban regardless of the crime. My crime was drug related and happy to add that part of my life remains in the last millennia
@davidgriffith8292
@davidgriffith8292 2 года назад
This is always a highly emotive issue and not one for keyboard warrior types. The saddest statistic I read last week was more children died by firearms than other group in the USA… in the last couple of years, overtook road traffic collisions. It’s for the Americans to decide. Too many school site killings. As the video said you *could* own many types of guns in the UK but you’re very unlikely to get a licence for them.
@helvete983
@helvete983 2 года назад
Indeed. It's not too hard to get a license for a pistol providing you are an active and established member of a shooting club, but generally Shotguns are owned by land workers such as farmers to deal with vermin like foxes, or by Gamekeepers, same reason. I've never heard of anyone being given a permit to own an assault rifle type weapon. Perhaps active members of specialist police units.
@shypop7735
@shypop7735 2 года назад
As a former shotgun licence holder as used to do skeet/clay pigeon shooting, once I stopped that the gun was sold and licence expired. Yes the police did visit my house, they interviewed me and asked the reason why I needed it, I had to show club membership and prove the reason was sensible, they then inspected the gun safe where it would be stored once happy they then granted one. I can't see any reason for anyone to need a gun for protection, if there is a likelihood of someone having a gun, then those bad people will have guns too. Saying that guns make you protected and safer is false, you can look at the murder and crime rate in USA and it's higher than most western countries. People shoot people not guns they quote, but people without guns can't shoot anyone. The reason why Americans want the need for one gun, never mind multiple ones baffles me, if guns were available in shops here I wouldn't see the sense in buying one. They keep stating the second amendment, this was written centuries ago, and should of been changed with the times. There have been gun amnesty's around the globe where citizens handed in there guns, it could easily be done in the USA.
@neildiamondo6445
@neildiamondo6445 2 года назад
Americas right to bear arms from a time when their independence was perilous and it took 1 minute to load a musket. Completely ridiculous today
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius 2 года назад
For a civilian(or a French soldier) one round a minute was correct but a British soldier was trained to load and fire 3 rounds a minute. It's worth noting though that the British applied a tactic based on the low accuracy levels of muskets, they were taught to not really aim but to fire in volleys, they fired diagonally as this was shown to create the highest rate of strikes.
@martinmay8919
@martinmay8919 2 года назад
You are not allowed to have openly carry a gun here in the UK. If you are seen carrying any gun you will be very quickly surrounded by armed police. Guns must be kept securely and not left in open view when travelling to a place that you intend to use it.
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