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@DylanSargesson
@DylanSargesson Год назад
One thing that they didn't mention in the video was how Southend-On-Sea gained its city status. It was listed as happening in 2022, but it technically wasn't part of the Platinum Jubilee honours. Their long-time local MP Sir David Amess had been campaigning for Southend to become a city for many years. He was assassinated by a terrorist in October 2021, before the deadline. Just 3 days later the Government announced the Queen had agreed to give Southend the status in his memory. The Official Letters Patent were signed in January 2022 - the 8 cities that got it as part of the Jubilee were announced in May.
@AlBarzUK
@AlBarzUK Год назад
Consolation city. 😬
@jeffknight904
@jeffknight904 Год назад
As with Jo Cox, who was assassinated in 2016, Sir David was a paragon example of what an MP should be - hard working and in it for the benefit of the people. Both of them put so many current MPs to shame (one in particular springs to mind).
@jeffheineken6709
@jeffheineken6709 11 месяцев назад
Bless him, that was an awful, terrible death.
@SparkAttack86
@SparkAttack86 11 месяцев назад
I think in terms of comedy, it might have altered the mood of the video. Definitely a tragic loss, and shame he never got to see his dream come true.😢
@drziggyabdelmalak1439
@drziggyabdelmalak1439 Год назад
When I was growing-up, we were told in school that a city had to have a cathedral. Now it just seems to be a large town but I think still has to be 'given' city status by the monarch, can you believe?
@davidz3879
@davidz3879 Год назад
Southampton is a city without a cathedral. Northampton is a town with a cathedral.
@judithrichardson3684
@judithrichardson3684 Год назад
The cathedral in Northampton is RC not CofE so I think that might be the reason it's not a City. Other towns with Cathedrals that aren't cities are: Bury St Edmunds, Chelmsford, Blackburn, Guildford and Southwell. And cities without cathedrals include Bath, Cambridge, Hull, Lancaster, Newport, Nottingham, Plymouth, Salford, Southampton, Stoke-on-Trent and Wolverhampton.@@davidz3879
@mothmagic1
@mothmagic1 Год назад
Under the pld system Oxford is not a city. The "cathedral" is actually the chapel of Christ Church College.
@tobeytransport2802
@tobeytransport2802 Год назад
That’s a myth and has been since the rules changed back in the 1800s when places like Birmingham were considered important enough to be given city status. It has always been at the choice of the monarch, and in Italy it is given out by the ceremonial president. It probably was a thing with the cathedrals just because back then every important place had a cathedral but now that isn’t the case.
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
I was also told the same
@TopherPotter
@TopherPotter Год назад
Small joke that might go over your head if you've not been to the UK but made me chuckle. When they talk about Lord Salisbury they used the font/colouring of the UK supermarket Sainsbury's.
@JustMe-ks8qc
@JustMe-ks8qc Год назад
Best thing on that list was "Synchronise car indicators". Judging by the cars I encounter on most roundabouts, few cars even have the installed.
@lesleycarney8868
@lesleycarney8868 Год назад
As a child we holidayed in St. David's each year . . . it' was great
@DJKC
@DJKC 11 месяцев назад
As someone who lives in Ipswich,.. That gave me a good chuckle.
@melscienerf5977
@melscienerf5977 Год назад
Sheffield has a really quite good university actually. Have friends who went there for various courses from medicine and biomedical sciences, to computing, maths and accounting.
@johnloony68
@johnloony68 Год назад
14:26 You need to go back and read that whole list. It's got lots of good things, e.g. number 34, 70, 72, 83, 89
@mothmagic1
@mothmagic1 Год назад
St David's with a polpulation of circa 1500. I live in a village of 15000+
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
I'm English born and bred and have learnt from this video.. And I'm guessing that many other brits like myself have also learnt because many of us don't know the real reasons why things are as they are when it comes to city status and how it comes to be
@ianstopher9111
@ianstopher9111 Год назад
I love how he paused on the definition of Mayor when it is clearly a rubbish definition. I guess you don't know until you look a bit more closely, but right next to it is the definition of Meddle: Thing that kids do to stop janitors or fairground owners getting away with it.
@mdhazeldine
@mdhazeldine Год назад
Jay Foreman videos have so many layers and little easter eggs hidden in them. It must take them days brainstorming all the little jokes they can squeeze into one video. Takes several watches to find them all.
@jeffheineken6709
@jeffheineken6709 11 месяцев назад
I never imagined nutmeg in mash 🤔
@geoffbeattie3160
@geoffbeattie3160 Год назад
There was a very old law which laid out the status that cities had to have to qualify for this status. I was taught this at school in 70s UK. I don't remember it all but there were 8 qualification's. A cathedral, guildhall,tithe barn,priory, charter for taxes, etc I do remember at the time there were only 2 cities left qualifying by these old rights in Europe. Moscow and Carlisle UK.
@tobeytransport2802
@tobeytransport2802 Год назад
Why would an old law apply to both Russia and England? International definitions of this kind are a modern thing. I reckon this is either an abolished law or a myth. The only requirement in the UK now is a royal letters patent and in Italy a presidential decree and probably the same in other European countries.
@trevorbaynham8810
@trevorbaynham8810 Год назад
A Cathedral has a Cathedra (basically a chair that the bishop sits on - think throne you'll get the idea) - It is the main church that the smaller ones 'answer to' in the area (diocese) - Unbelievably I live in a parish (originally this area would be registered to the local church - now its an administrative area) and has it's own little governance under a local authority - so on top of local council tax (Think city taxes for your property) I also have to pay what is called a parish rate on top. All this means in reality is that we pay more for the same services with an added layer of councillors for the local area who have premises and budgets from that - all collected by the district
@MorDreadful
@MorDreadful Год назад
I remember being in class in 1992, secondary school. We were asked in Geography to name a city, so I said Sunderland. The teacher then started to try and state it was NOT a city, though he didn't know the monarch is the one who makes a city, this being in brief. It was made a city on HRH QERII's 40th anniversary of her ascension to the throne. The incident was after this declaration and so I argued with the teacher who berated me, to then fall foul and find out I was actually right. Yes this teacher taught it was meaning a city could only be a city if it had a cathedral, to which you have learned this is NOTY the case. So much for the teacher knowing anything.
@SparkAttack86
@SparkAttack86 11 месяцев назад
Lol. Similar thing happened to me. Although i argued that Brighton was a city and the teacher claimed it wasn't a proper city unless it had a cathedral. I stood my ground and got detention for disruption! Mind you, there was no google or mobile phones so couldn't prove wrong but I'm still owed an apology more than 20 years later!
@mats7492
@mats7492 Год назад
Hidden joke in the video.. How a city becomes a city is equally convoluted and elaborate in germany.. some small towns of 3000 peole are offically a city cause they were important in the 14th century and some large places with 20.000 people are still officially not cities.. but unlike the UK, being a city or not actually matters in germany... more local powers, more funding etc..
@LoC28C
@LoC28C Год назад
6:04 Wow I’m impressed that you can read what was in the letter. To me it is blur.
@ianstopher9111
@ianstopher9111 Год назад
And the kicker at the end of the document.
@drziggyabdelmalak1439
@drziggyabdelmalak1439 Год назад
Brilliant! Great send-up!
@jettserUK17
@jettserUK17 Год назад
With 385,000 folks within my own town, it has yet to be classified as a city! Been long overdue. I agree it makes no sense! 😏
@davidz3879
@davidz3879 Год назад
Reading?
@stewedfishproductions7959
@stewedfishproductions7959 Год назад
@@davidz3879 😅 😂 🤣
@paulharvey9149
@paulharvey9149 Год назад
As ever, these clever Englishmen have forgotten that Scotland has its own legal system, and its own Established Church that is not the same as the law or the Established Church in England, Wales or Northern Ireland; hence the rules are similar, but not the same in these countries! They are incorrect to say that Bangor has no cathedral, it does - of the dis-established [Anglican] Church-in-Wales. Likewise, the [Established] Church of Scotland has no cathedrals anyway - even though it uses a few ancient cathedral buildings that are still called cathedrals even though they haven't enjoyed that status for more than 500 years. It therefore makes no sense to highlight Stirling and Dunfermline as having no cathedrals, as they lie within a country that doesn't have cathedrals anywhere. Back in England, their explanation that the church was where all the powers were in olden times includes the examples of Ely, Bath & Wells, and St Alban's Cathedrals, yet St Alban's Abbey did not become a cathedral until 1877 - AFTER the connection between cathedrals and cities was ended! They mention Perth in terms of economic growth post 2012 when it was awarded city status, but without reference to the fact that from 1210, it had always had city status until the local government reorganisation that became effective in 1975; and that during the 2012 ceremony, Queen Elizabeth II actually acknowledged that it had never been the intention that Perth should lose its city status... This has major implications for dozens of other Scottish places that had "Royal Burgh" status by the Royal Charters issued by King David I and other early Scottish Kings - especially those like Perth, Dunfermline, Elgin and St Andrews that had described themselves as "City and Royal Burgh of (name)". While the Local Government Acts of the early 1970s did abolish Royal Burgh Councils, their names and 'status' lived on through their continued use of 'Royal Burgh' in their formal names. As all the Royal Burghs had Royal Charters entitling them to be known as such (and usually, with rights to trade and hold markets, etc.,) some believe that these had the same status as English Cities with such Royal Charters or Letters Patent in more modern times. Others argue that Dundee was the first formally constituted 'city' in Scotland when Queen Victoria issued Letters Patent confirming her decision to award it city status in 1889. Running somewhat against that theory is that the Scottish Cities of Edinburgh and Glasgow were "cities by tradition." Basically this meant that because they "since time immemorial" been universally thought of as cities and described as such - irrespective of whether any Royal Charter or Letters Patent had ever existed; they did in fact enjoy Honorary city status! If this were so, then it almost certainly also included Perth, which was regarded as Capital of Scotland until 1437, when James I was murdered in that city. Right up until 1975, The Lord Provost of Perth enjoyed precedence only to his Edinburgh Counterpart. As both Dunfermline and Stirling also enjoyed periods as permanent royal residences in the days of Absolute Monarchy, there is also some argument in them being held in similar regard.
@DylanSargesson
@DylanSargesson Год назад
The Bangor on the list of Cities without Cathedrals is the Bangor in Northern Ireland, not the one in Wales.
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
I like those two guys.. Funny as fuck... Natural comedians
@georgerobartes2008
@georgerobartes2008 Год назад
Im pleased St. David's got its ancient city status back , the people there had been fretting for 150 years now they can rest in peace , witu no more rioting , pitch forks and torch burnings .
@lukespooky
@lukespooky Год назад
pausing the advert to explain the advert
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
We had Mayor's in Wolverhampton long long before we had city status
@Shoomer1988
@Shoomer1988 Год назад
Sheffield has two Universities. The University of Sheffield and Sheffield Hallam University
@johnt8998
@johnt8998 Год назад
That's just being greedy!
@10thdoctor15
@10thdoctor15 Год назад
Nottingham has two Universities too, but no Cathedral.
@StewartWalker-hy1eo
@StewartWalker-hy1eo Год назад
So does Liverpool
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
Yeah and it also means like my town.. Once it became a city our taxes go up
@claregale9011
@claregale9011 Год назад
Was only just in Rochester last week 😊 look into its history Connor it's pretty interesting .
@davidz3879
@davidz3879 Год назад
Unique in having lost its city status.
@markaxworthy2508
@markaxworthy2508 Год назад
What are the "rules" about calling a settlement a "city" in the USA? Dodge must have been minuscule when first called "Dodge City". Some "incorporated" settlements seem to have as few as two inhabitants.
@epcode5121
@epcode5121 Год назад
Cathedral, university and a bit A Road in UK You got a city
@mondegreen9709
@mondegreen9709 Год назад
11:28 'The Good Coldplay Album' 😄
@CW1971
@CW1971 Год назад
The town i live in applied for city status and failed 😂 and I'm glad, it does no good for the people who live there and just costs money
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
Is that Ripon n in Derbyshire or Ripon in Yorkshire? I've been to both
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
I can vouch for the cathedral comment because my home town of Wolverhampton was a town and is not a city but we do not have a cathedral.. We have a enormous church tho called St Peters and there was talk of it being given cathedral status but no it's still a church
@cadifan
@cadifan Год назад
In New Zealand towns only become cities if the have a population of over 50,000. Under 50,000 a town, over 50,000 a city. There's no other criteria. (as of 1989)
@markaxworthy2508
@markaxworthy2508 Год назад
What is the smallest settlement in the USA with the word "City" in its title?
@davidmcgarty1306
@davidmcgarty1306 11 месяцев назад
City of Central Falls, Rhode Island is only 1.3 sq miles but I’m not certain it’s the smallest in US.
@aarontaylor4967
@aarontaylor4967 Год назад
I was brought up in Southwell, a small town in Notts. It's football team is called Southwell City, it has a Minster and is the capital of the Nottingham Church of England diocese. After all these years I don't know if it's a city!
@MrBulky992
@MrBulky992 Год назад
It's not a city. At the time of the Reformation, Southwell Minster was not yet a cathedral. It was elevated to that status much later (when the archduocese of York was subdivided and having a cathedral does not automatically qualify a settlement to be a city! Southwell is a very pretty place and the cathedral is impressive.
@pedanticradiator1491
@pedanticradiator1491 Год назад
​@@MrBulky992 although York has an Archbishop the C of E does not have archdioceses
@MrBulky992
@MrBulky992 Год назад
@@pedanticradiator1491 Yes you are right. It's just the Diocese of York. I had never noticed that point.
@MrBulky992
@MrBulky992 Год назад
I forgot to mention that Guildford has a football team called "Guildford City". Like Southwell, we're not a city! Then there are Welwyn Garden City and Letchworth Garden City, neither of which are cities.
@stevenjohnson4190
@stevenjohnson4190 Год назад
hands up if you add mustard and nutmeg to mashed spud ?
@Lottaquizzes
@Lottaquizzes Год назад
Stop explaining how commercials work please
@StephMcAlea
@StephMcAlea Год назад
I dunno, Royal Provudence sounds cool...
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d Год назад
Hello from Reading, pitty me.
@BostonBobby1961
@BostonBobby1961 Год назад
There’s one here in Massachusetts
@mondegreen9709
@mondegreen9709 Год назад
At least you had Nirvana play there twice. Not a lot of towns can say that.
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d Год назад
@@mondegreen9709 that is true, only went to see them once.
@nadeansimmons226
@nadeansimmons226 Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@johnt8998
@johnt8998 Год назад
Sorry but the royals just don't like you, get over it!😛
@moluther2826
@moluther2826 Год назад
3:55 inhabitant of said dull suburban borough here
@angelataylor2049
@angelataylor2049 Год назад
I thought a city had to have a University.
@jettserUK17
@jettserUK17 Год назад
Apparently British cities require a cathedral to be classified as one! Bizzare really! ¯⁠\⁠_⁠ಠ⁠_⁠ಠ⁠_⁠/⁠¯
@warpspasm6652
@warpspasm6652 Год назад
Originally universities were only built where there was a cathedral as I believe the church paid for the construction of the first universities. I may be wrong but that is what I was taught.
@MrBulky992
@MrBulky992 Год назад
​@@jettserUK17That's a common fallacy. "Cathedral cities" are those cities which had a cathedral at the time of the Reformation. Any cathedrals created since that time, regardless of whether they were/are anglican, Roman Catholic or any other denomination do not confer city status on the settlement to which tgey belong. I live in Guildford: it has an anglican cathedral but it is not a city and there are other places where the same applies e.g. Southwark, Blackburn, Bury St Edmund's, Southwell. Conversely, there are also cities where there is no cathedral: Brighton & Hove, Southend, Sunderland, Cambridge, Stoke -on-Trent, Wolverhampton, Milton Keynes, Hull etc.
@MrBulky992
@MrBulky992 Год назад
​​@@warpspasm6652That must be wrong: Cambridge had/has no cathedral: certainly, none existed at the time of the founding of the University. Similarly, Oxford University was founded hundreds of years before Henry VIII elevated the chapel of Christchurch College, Oxford, to cathedral status. England only had 2 universities before the 1830s, the two I mentioned, and Scotland had 4. The one in Edinburgh was founded by the civic authorites in Edinburgh in 1583, not by the Church. Edinburgh had no cathedral until the century after the founding of the University.
@jettserUK17
@jettserUK17 Год назад
@@MrBulky992 It's not wrong, it's a fact. So Angel Taylor and I were both right. The denominations part are not relevant since all cathedrals are Christian based! Turns out that City status in the UK can be associated with having a cathedral or a university, a particular form of local government, or having a large population. Although any of these might be used to justify the popular use of the term 'city', in formal terms UK city status is granted by the monarch, on the advice of ministers!
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
OK we have been a city for 23 years then.. Blimey that's gone quick..
@petejones879
@petejones879 Год назад
Do we even get mosquitoes in Britain?
@grahvis
@grahvis Год назад
Hard luck Reading.
@iannorton2253
@iannorton2253 Год назад
That list of godless, heathen towns that became cities despite not having a cathedral includes Derby (1977); however, Derby does have a cathedral.
@MartinMilnerUK
@MartinMilnerUK Год назад
A parish church updated to one but still one nevertheless now - All Saints. I am from Spondon, an eastern suburb of Derby
@grahamboffey457
@grahamboffey457 Год назад
I thought it needed a charter from the monarch.
@joealyjim3029
@joealyjim3029 Год назад
The answer is a cathedral, i refuse to recognise any towns that dont have one as a city.
@pedanticradiator1491
@pedanticradiator1491 Год назад
You might but the government doesn't. And what about towns that have cathedrals but are not cities
@revbenf6870
@revbenf6870 Год назад
It makes no sense, but it is gloriously British! Just one of the bonkers things that makes us great (unless you live somewhere that you feel ought to qualify). Just like our Monarchy, and countless other weird and wonderful things. Please don't tidy it all up according to modern "wisdom"!!!!
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