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I love hackneys and saddlebreds both great, despite their size, very similar.

The same thing is happening with the forefathers of the Dutch Harness Horse (Tuigpaard). The original Dutch breed the Gelderlander (high stepping coachhorse) has been modernised with too much of Saddlebred and Hackney blood to a point where what was supposed to look Dutch now looks very American. The weirdest part is that the Saddlebred breed has more in common with the original Gelders horse in terms of rooted versatility than these newer breeds usually seen trotting around. The traditional old look is fading and the original breeds that made them are diminishing for the sake of more lift, front and trend.

@@dennetofferman371 Oh yes, I am sure I love the Dutch Harness, Gelderlanders are rarer too, I love all dutch harness even with the Saddlebred Bloodlines. I personally love Saddlebreds and Hackney equally, they are just my Favorite but for sure. A lot of great breeds are struggling. Yeah, well so many breeds were altered for the same reasons if you think about so your right. Like for instance the originally appaloosa was practically extinct, a really popular american breed was kind of watered out by the heavy addition of quarter horses that the original appy became extinct almost in true form so now someone started the Nez Perce breeding program to try to bring back the Original Appy by adding Appy and Akhel Teke, and oddly akhel teke really brought out some lost traits in appies which really is puzzling to me in someways. I know Appy had iberian bloodlines but so many horse breeds have been lost for this similar reason such as the original boruque style Friesians, the Original Barbs, so many horse breeds got lost due to watering down breeds. So I totally agree with you. Main thing with Hackneys that sucks is very little interest in them as atleast the Dutch Harness is gaining some popularity, but thats partly why the Marwari and Akhal Teke breeders were so strict for a long time becaue they didn't want the almost extinct breeds to become watered down and lost by a lot of cross breeding people do.

@@dennetofferman371 That is where I feel breeders are needed is to help maintain breeds from becoming extinct as much as breeders are despised, but I can think of so many horses that were lost in true form or were lost completely due to this reason. Even like clydesdales with the shire, now shires are so rare, we kind of put them into the clydesdales, One horse that I never see anywhere anymore I often see looking up horse pedigrees such as warmblood types, one horse you never hear much at all anywhere that made up a lot of warmbloods were the Mecklenburg I feel had similar influence as Gelderlander.. I feel like so many horses like this have been lost. Like even most iberian horses have been somewhat lost by this type of things too.

Even the horse that helped create our belgians, the original breed that helped make this breed is hanging on barely by the few who are trying to preserve the breed. Just keeps going. Not that new infusions aren't good ideas, but it deffinately looses value in horse breeds in the long run and most people don't notice it until the breed almost or does become extinct then people feel sad, but its ideas like this that help cause extinction to wonderful breeds.

@@brittanyritenour4695 Hi Brittany. Yes, the original Belgian from Europe looks nothing like the American type, so a point where it looks like an insult to the history of the original Belgian. The original Belgian (and it feels weird to say it like this even, because it should be the only "Belgian") are not long legged, certainly not clean legged, not ever chestnut, and are not parade high-stepping horses with upright necks. They are predominantly bay, black and in roan variants of these base colors with a very coarse/native, yet breedy outline, a working outline of when horses worked. Upright shoulders, huge joints, small eyes, large hooves, short croup all much like the Comtois and Ardennais. The original Belgian got so popular, useful and influencial that the Dutch Draught horse (aka Brabander) was created. Even these neighbouring drafts kept true to their European conformation to this day with one added feature- these horses can be chestnut and with roan variant. I almost feel like the Americans took European breeds, with no regard to their original meaning, form and history to just edit the look and slap "American" on it. I call it stealing, not breed preservation. The original French Percheron and The Scottish Shetland Pony have their looks and standards where they come from, yet they have been alterd in such ways in America. The American Shetland Pony looks like a miniature and nothing like the ball of fluff. The US Percherons and US Belgians look too alike, almost like just a mere color varation, yet they left the Clydesdale alone.

Two different breeds, it is about the saddlebred and hackney horse and pony.

This planet has a few high trotting breeds and not all of them are American like the Saddlebred and National Show horse (Arab x US Saddlebred). From the UK there are the Hackney Horse and Hackney Pony and from The Netherlands we have the Tuigpaard (Dutch Harness Horse). The beauty is that each are very similar, but each are also recognisibly different even in history. The only problem is too much mixing up of these high steppers to a point where influencial, original and historic breeds (who started the high- stepping hobby) are diminishing for breeds with more animation. They helped too much and this is how they pay, by being seen in the modernised horses of the future. Here in The Netherlands forefathers of the Dutch Harness Horse, the Gelders horse are dropping in numbers. The use of Hackney blood can be seen alot in Dutch Harness Horses and Saddlebreds but Hackney horse's themselves are also dropping.

Number one you are thinking of the Tennessee walker they are abused. These are saddlebreds not abused. Get your facts checked. Plus more and more walker trainers are not training anymore. It is illegal to torture the walker not. No more BIG LICK.