I guess you mean in the company of Londoner's? But Not always, in Apples and PEARS, it's the last word that rhymmes with STAIRS.( the target) and is more obvious for company you are not sure of..
@@MrDaiseymay "apples and pears" is used in its entirety. As part of the reason for the slang is to prevent the conversation being understood by the "uninitiated" the use of the non-rhyming word would help conceal the meaning. Just think about the rhyming slang for "Yank". Or the origin of the slang term "Borasic" - as in "I'm borasic until next pay day" - which is a two stage slang term as the rhyme refers back to another slang term.
@@MrDaiseymay the original point was to use the first word most of the time so that people not in the know didn't understand. It not only needs English language knowledge, but English cultural knowledge (and to some extent just a knowledge of the code). Some words even didn't get fully said like 'Berk' which is short for 'Berkley Hunt' which is rhyming slang for the worst word. Berk became a mildly vulgar insult among English people who don't know, but when they find out the origin they tend to stop using it, acknowledging it as far more rude than they ever intended!
i don't know if you have ever seen the movie the Italian job Michael Caine but there is a song at the end called "Getta Bloomin' Move On! (The Self Preservation Society)" the song all in Cockney Rhyming Slang if your interested This is the self-preservation society This is the self-preservation society Go wash your German bands, your boat race too Comb your Barnet Fair we got a lot to do Put on your Dickie Dirt and your Peckham Rye Cause time's soon hurrying by Get your skates on mate, get your skates on mate No bib around your Gregory Peck today, eh? Drop your plates of meat right up on the seat This is the self-preservation society This is the self-preservation society Gotta get a bloomin move on Babadab-babadabadab-bab-ba Gotta get a bloomin move on Babadab-babadabadab-bab-ba Jump in the jam jar gotta get straight Hurry up mate don't wanna be late How's your father? Tickety boo Tickety boo Gotta get a bloomin move on Self-preservation society This is the self-preservation society Put on your almond rocks and daisy roots Wash your Hampstead Heath and wear your whistle and flute Lots of lah-di-dahs and cockneys here Look alive and get out of here So get your skates on mate, get your skates on mate No bib around your Gregory Peck today, eh? Drop your plates of meat right up on the seat This is the self-preservation society This is the self-preservation society ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Sgwa-Wc03RI.html
Bob hope also means dope! A lot of cockney came out of a need to not be able to be pinned down verbally by the peelers. Use your loaf,eh! Also,much only uses the first word,like get the dog,it’s been ringing for 5 mins! Other words you wouldn’t tell your kids,like Hampton wick? Khyber pass? Pony and trap? Much of what is called cockney,is mockney,made up by kids in a modern sense. To be a cockney,you have to be born within earshot of the bow bells,my dad was,and I remember as a kid,going out shooting,and he turned to me and said,keep your mincers peeled for pigeons. He hated them!
In the 1970s I was working in a Sheffield factory, when some cockney builders dug a trench. They put a bridge over it was a sign “Mind the rum and pep”. I was one of several who tripped over the step.
"Bees and Honey" is wrong. It's "Bread and Honey". Even the hippies of San Francisco cottoned on to this back in the 60's and called money "Bread". Real Cockney Slang died out sometime around the end of the 70's about the same time we started to give the "Dear Old Smoke" (London), away. P.S. It helps to understand that true Cockney dialect has one of the higher number of glottal stops also.
Hi. This is REALLY for beginners...lolThe difficulty is that you omit the connecting word so,for example,,,"I'm putting on my Daisies" or "My Saucepans are coming over tonight ".....= Saucepan Lids=Kids=Children.......t was originally used by London criminals so The Old Bill did not know what they were saying. You will know that,while all Londoners are known as "Cockneys" a TRUE "Cockney" was born within the sound of The Bow Bells, which is a Church in East London.It could never derive from Essex.It's completely the other way round ! It was very common in,say,Post World War 2 London as White indigenous Londoners were 98% of Londoners then but most moved out to The Outer London Suburbs and Counties from The 1960's onwards as London was changing so that by 2016 only One birth in 10 in Inner London was to that Racial Group.. It was the normal thing for them to move out to the nearest County so East London to Essex.South East Londoners to Kent. South West Londoners to Surrey. North Londoners to Hertfordshire etc. The supreme irony in my 65 year old lifetime is that those very same people who moved in their,literally, millions from Inner to Outer London are now,in many cases, taking ANOTHER step further out as The Outer London Suburbs are changing in a fairly similar way to Inner London between The very late 1950's onwards as Mass Immigration came from Asiatic Countries and The Caribbean . In the last 10 weeks I have lost 5 customers to my local service to Norfolk x2, The heart of Kent x2 and Dorset. Consequently real Cockney slang is NOW found more frequently in Essex and Kent than London itself by the current descendents of those who left Inner London,particularly, in The 1970's/1980's/1990's.
Thinking about it I now remember 2 years ago a Guy from Norfolk on The East Coast telling me that when he moved there from Essex 20 years ago most locals in Norfolk had a local accent, as you would expect but now he said that the most common accent there is from "Ilford" meaning from the heart of the border of Inner and Outer East London as those that moved to places like Ilford have now moved on nearer the coast in their droves so, obviously, Outer London areas like Ilford are becoming more like Inner London now. I have seen exactly the same cycle in all parts of London over the last 55 years....in particular..
No, it's not born within the sound of the Bow Bells (which are in the Church of St.Mary and Holy Trinity on Bow Road) but within the sound of the bells of the Church of St. Mary Le Bow, which is in Cheapside. Bow was an outlying village until the 19th century whereas Cheapside was part of London for centuries before that. The bells which called Dick Whittington back to London and are mentioned in the old children's rhyme Oranges and Lemons are the ones in St. Mary le Bow in Cheapside.
Phillipe, can you let the fan base into a secret? Is Lillian always that happy, even off screen? She’s truly got the most beautiful ‘carpet pile’ I’ve EVER SEEN! You lucky geezer!
Take no notice of the old man, Lilian. You did really well, just swell. Traditionally, you could only call yourself a real 'cockney' if you were born within the sounds of Bow Bells - church bells. Cockneys did a lot for charity - and would make their own identification outfits by sewing pearl buttons on to clothes, including caps - completely covering them with buttons. Pearly kings and queens.
On the next level its using just the 1st word but thats when you know the phrase anyway... EG: frog n toad road Would become going up the frog..knowing its frog n toad
Some can be two or two times removed from the word. For example he’s gonna get a kick up the Aris. = Arse. How? Aris is short for Aristotle. Bottle = (Aristotle) “he’s lost his bottle” or he bottled it. Then bottle and glass = arse.
Only actually heard about half of these but then again I'm from civiised West Yorkshire where we don't have accents or slang terms because here it's how the English language is supposed to sound!
Jam jar(car), Peckham rye(tie), Whistle and flute(suit), Rub a dub(pub), Tomfoolery(jewellery), Farmer giles(piles), Mince pies(eyes), Trouble and strife/Duchess of fife(wife), Hampstead heath(teeth), Plates of meat(feet), Rabbit and pork(talk). Shows like Only fools and horses, Minder and Steptoe and Son have lots of slang references.
Now I know what they were talk’n about when I watched that British movie!… I thought they were just being gangster slang or something. HILARIOUS YOU GUYS!
Yes please, do a video on accents: liverpool, Manchester, west country, Cardiff, Suffolk, East London working class, West London middle class, Birmingham, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Belfast, Dublin, Yorkshire, Nottingham - that would be hilarious.
I learnt most of my cockney rhyming slang from Only Fools and Horses - "The old dog's nackered". " thats who messed up your face, and to your Gregory..."
Start watching minder or the sweeney - it's full of rhyming slang . Aris ? Lucozade? Iron ? First one ( aris)= ARIStotle which rhymes with Bottle , bottle goes with glass- and glass rhymes with arse ! Hence looking at some birds aris meant looking at some woman's arse .....cockney rhyming slang always rhymes on the second word but you only ever say the first. Hence " iron hoof " was always shortened to " iron" as in poof ...someone who is an homosexual . Iron hoof rhymes with poof hence someone homsexual would be referred to as an "iron " for "lucozade" and millions of others watch any episode (pre 90s) minder . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FY06-D0Mc78.html
Of the two word slang, its always the second word that Rhythms is the most important word. There are newer cockney slang words around, but I prefer the original text!
It was originally used in the 19th century by Cockney market traders etc. as code words. They could speak in front of the newly formed police without them understanding what was being said. Once you know the code you only say the first word and not the rhyming word.
Omg this is so funny. As Londoner I sometimes use these without even realising, especially in the office. eg “what’s the matter with HIS (f-ing) boat?” (Face). “I’m just off for a quick Jimmy” (Jimmy Riddle = piddle) meaning take a pee.
also,a funny one is,can u get me some jack? Jack straw.an MP whose son was caught selling a small lump of hash to some birds,hence,jack straw-20 draw! Sorry!
If you ever listen to the theme tune to The Italian Job, original version, full of Cockney slang. Interestingly written by Quincy Jones who learned some Cockney slang
Slang originally comes from the criminal fraternity hundreds of years ago and is used in everyday language by many different types of people. Slang means = sly language( s lang). It has always evolved the same as all language. Nice videos. Peace, Love and Unity.
The Bow bells haven't rung since before the Second World War as the bell tower was damaged during the Blitz and not replaced so technically there have been no Cockneys born since 1945.
This reminds me when I worked offshore in the Gulf of Mexico and I was working on an Oil Rig named the Glomar Arctic 1 that was towed over from the North Sea to be rehabbed and used in the US. You want to talk about confusion with the english language well it was the perfect storm! You had all the UK workers Brits, Scotts, Irish and even a New Zealander thrown in and then you top it off with all US Southerners from the Dixie states plus some Mid Westerners and a few New Englanders and everyone was saying huh what did you say? The Cherry on the topping was this drilling rig was being rehabbed in Brownsville Texas and add the Tex Mex variable in the mix, it was down out very comical at times.
You 'll find many oddments of Cockney slang further north (Odd words) And as you've Had a Lot of exposure to British Speakers Have another go at how we use Greetings and Terms of endearment (Locations) Felipe correctly called "me Old China" but Travel around the Country it changes often and an up front Question :Where are you going to be Mostly called You's as in the plural? (2 big cities>Not London) Oh and Lillian can be called Queen by older women in one of these cities?
sorry guys most of these are Mockney - Bob Hope - Ball and Chalk, these are colloquial "South (emphasis on the SOOOOUTH for added effect) London or Essex or MOCKNEY" just by rhyming something is not Cockney - A lot of it was spoken by the barrow boys in Smithfield (most of these guys were from then Eastend - Brick Lane..and ended at around Stepney Green - its a very small area indeed. No true Cockney exists with the Gentrfication of that area, a good indicator is Comedian Mickey Flannigan - lived in that area in the 70's 80's and 90's - trolling up and down way at Bethnal Green - Drop the book its misleading. Sorry ~Trooper
well I'm a little late Felipe but i still still enjoyed watching you and your old Dutch 'Dutch is short for duchess, and in cockney she would be your duchess of fife, your wife, the Duchess of fife was actually Queen Elizabeth II grandmother and a very formidable woman, as many wives can be lol, often if you look into the context you will find some very interesting and explanatory connections, as someone else has posted here about the duke of Kent meaning bent or gay a little search through history will reveal a little more info as to the duke of Kents shall we say rumoured preferences, especially after he got brahms and liste 'pissed' or sometimes shortened to brahme'd and couldn't even stand up on his own plates of meat 'feet'.
Has nobody mentioned Lillian having her own name enshrined in Cockney Rhyming slang? Lillian Gish an American film star of the 1920's She was absolutely beautiful but Lillian Gish sadly became rhyming slang for fish
Baker's dozen (13) I believe origianlly came from 100s years ago when Baker's could be severely treated if they mis-weighed bread - sold - by weight. So, say, if you were selling a certain weight you would add a bit more (13 instead of 12), so that you didn't get yourself into the stocks for cheating people! You lovely people should see some Steptoe and Son for comedy. Classic!
You have to use the full slang sentence, to allow a chance of understanding it. e.g ''Would you-Adam and Eve IT'' ? Translation, ''Would you believe it'?
Lol, but that's the thing, those in the know don't use or very rarely use the full two words. "I ain't got a danny'(Danny Larue - clue)" You're having a bubble ain't ya'(bubble bath-laugh) But not a haha laugh, it would be used to say something was unbelievable or shocking. 🤷♀️😁
Bless you haha cockney doesn’t come from Essex. It was the cockneys- those born within the sound of the bow bells officially, and they created slang so they could talk without the coppers knowing what they were saying.
Here's a few Yorkshire sayings ....... Cake ‘oil - Meaning mouth. “Shut thi’ cake ‘oil” Chippy/chip ‘ole - meaning fish and chip shop. “You want owt from t’ chippy? Ey up - meaning ‘watch out’, ‘be careful’, or to be used as a greeting Flippin’ eck - meaning bloody hell, a term of shock or surprise Bairn - meaning child. “The poor bairn needs a nap Do it thisen / thi’ sen - Meaning do it yourself. Fish and fernerkers - Meaning Fish and chips. Mardy - meaning moody. “Stop being such a mardy arse and come out!
As at least one other person has stated, when used u conversion you only use the first word, e.g. 'where' s your bricks? . (Bricks and mortar =daughter ) Oh she she's feeling a bit hamtpon (Hampton wick = sick) so she went up the apples (apes and pears= stairs) for a bo peep It was originally used so the bottles (bottles and stoppers= coppers) and non-natives would not understand overheard conversations
Hampton Wick does definitely NOT mean sick. That’s Tom and Dick. Hampton Wick....always just Hampton, is used as in, I went in the Benghazi, (khazi) and this bloke had his Hampton out!
Enjoyed this. Liked Felipe's comment about London accent and 'nice' not being compatible. On accents and Lillian's garden (now there's a link) check out Tony C Smith on RU-vid. A fine Geordie accent and an allotment garden in one..
Wotcha me old china! = Hello my old friend! Actually wotcha is a corruption of 'What cheer' from the Victorian days. It's funny how misunderstandings can occur. I'm from NZ but lived in England for 20 months as a child. whenever a friend would say wotcha I always thought it meant 'What are you doing?' or 'What are you up to?' As in Wotcha doing? Wotcha up to? There is another word for friend which is Cock. Cock sparrow rhymes with Barrow, barrow of soil rhymes with Boil, boil and bake... Cake, cake and jam... Ham, ham and pickle... Tickle, tickle and touch... Dutch, dutch plate - mate. Wotcha me old Cock!
everybody's favorite - "thruppenny bits" "ere, look at her thruppenies" (thruppence was an old threepence coin used up till 1970) you guess the meaning
01bystander Disgraceful and vulgar you should be more polite. Example look at the Bristol’s on that. Bristol Cities. Though I do agree thrupenny bits seem to be more visual
Dear Gillian and Phillip, Alan Whickers means money because a pound is also known as a nicker: "Ain't got any Allan's mate" = "I have no money my friend".... It's not what you said....(trust the septics to lower the tone).
I grew up in Plymouth in the south west of England and even though I've been exposed to Cockney Rhyming slang for decades (thanks to Only Fools and Horses, Eastenders etc) it's got to be the worst code in the history of code ever. If the theory is that it was supposed to hide what Cockney's were saying from the police it would have taken them a week tops to figure things out due to context of the rhyme. What a load of Tommy Tank.
Only people who have made a living out of being "professional cockneys", like Danny Dyer, use rhyming slang on a regular basis. Most become dated very quickly. Do people still know who Ruby Murray (curry) was? And no one wears Lionel Blairs (flares) let alone know who he is. The last time I heard someone say "get me a sherbet-dab", for cab, was in a 1971 episode of 'Budgie'.