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Amillennialists Believe What?! Postmillennialism Teaches What?! Response To Al Mohler Eschatology 

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In a recent video, Al Mohler was asked his thoughts on eschatology, in which Dr Mohler addressed Historic Premillennialism, Amillennialism and Postmillennialism.
In this video, Dr Josh Howard breaks down Dr Mohler's views of Amillennialism and Postmillennialism, and offers a correction.
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@counting-blessings
@counting-blessings 5 месяцев назад
I never heard a Premillenialist explain Amill or Postmill correctly or present their best arguments and biblical prooftexts.
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 5 месяцев назад
And ignorance is but one of their motives
@toddstevens9667
@toddstevens9667 5 месяцев назад
@@toolegittoquit_001Don’t be silly
@semper_reformanda_1517
@semper_reformanda_1517 5 месяцев назад
If they could, they wouldn’t be Premil anymore… 😎
@charliedontsurf334
@charliedontsurf334 5 месяцев назад
I’ve seen the same thing with Calvinists when people like RC Sproul willfully conflates Arminianism with Semi Pelagianism.
@toddstevens9667
@toddstevens9667 5 месяцев назад
@@charliedontsurf334Arminians ARE semi-Pelagians. Just saying …
@johntoddstewart2183
@johntoddstewart2183 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for correcting Mohler's misunderstanding. Love the channel so much!
@Celticbavarian
@Celticbavarian 5 месяцев назад
This was really well done and helpful. I will be subscribing. I've been escatalogically undecided forever. I want very much to be postmil, just haven't been pushed over the line yet. I look forward to learning from your channel.
@Jay_the_giant
@Jay_the_giant 5 месяцев назад
You came to a very good, balanced channel, my friend.
@AreejCosta
@AreejCosta 5 месяцев назад
"I want very much to be postmil". Seems like something in our human existence needs hope and motivation to go out and work, and by that being more fulfilled and joyful.
@gsp8489
@gsp8489 5 месяцев назад
"I want to be postmil" I agree. I think Postmil fits very well with the GENERAL theme and "story arch" for lack of a better term, but I'm not fully convinced. I just havn't seen the "smoking gun" proof in the scripture. I have sort of settled into an Amil stance, an optimistic Amil stance in that we have a great impact on our people and nations. Nations that honor God are blessed with long periods of prosperity and nations that reject him usually burn out and are absorbed by their neighbors. There are ebbs and flows. That seems to be the pattern throughout the old testament and world history. I would suspect that to continue until Christ returns however I would love for the postmil view to be true, I will act as if it's true, and if it IS true I will be VERY happy to have been wrong.
@Celticbavarian
@Celticbavarian 5 месяцев назад
@@gsp8489 very well said
@blank-964
@blank-964 5 месяцев назад
This was needed. Thanks
@outdoormedia77
@outdoormedia77 5 месяцев назад
Mohler totally misrepresented Postmil, I stopped listening to Mohler back in 2016 when he attempted to give women who had an abortion a pass and defended Russell Moore all because he was a never Trumper. Mohler compared to Jon Harris is irrelevant.
@timmartin4216
@timmartin4216 5 месяцев назад
There is a reason full preterism is growing. This video gives a good demonstration for why.
@chrisjohnson9542
@chrisjohnson9542 5 месяцев назад
Lol. I haven't even watched the video yet. Just saw the title and knew exactly what you were referring to because I watched the same video a few days ago that he put out recently where he gave a description of amillennialist that was so disingenuous it hurt my head. It was frustrating that he gave such a poor answer to a genuine question from a guy who is trying to figure it out.
@sufficientlyrandom8184
@sufficientlyrandom8184 5 месяцев назад
Yep, I respect Dr Al Mohler, but this disturbed me. Glad you’re addressing it.
@CoreyFPiazza
@CoreyFPiazza 5 месяцев назад
Postmillenialists believe His Kingdom and Eternal will, will be realized both in Heaven and on Earth through the success of the Great Commission, so that when we ask it in prayer, we believe it is going to be answered.
@danielwarton5343
@danielwarton5343 5 месяцев назад
as someone who is pre mill I would argue that we believe the same thing. God’s will for as many who will be saved will be, the time of the gentiles will end and Christ will return to set up His kingdom.
@richardcox7178
@richardcox7178 5 месяцев назад
Please talk more about eschatological universalism and Martin Selbrede’s article in the JCR.
@jjmulvihill
@jjmulvihill 5 месяцев назад
AMIL is a joint reign in Heaven and on Earth. Rev1:6 says that we are Christ’s kings and priests in the present tense. Can’t be a king without a reign. We need to propagate the Kingdom of Christ now, not look to the future.
@freeblom
@freeblom 5 месяцев назад
wrong quote at 11:18 🤪
@toddstevens9667
@toddstevens9667 5 месяцев назад
I really don’t see any problem with Mohler’s brief thumbnails of the 3 general positions. Keep in mind that each position has dozens of different sub-sets with different perspectives on various details. He wasn’t trying to give a full-orbed lecture on each position and each sub-variant. It’s just a thumbnail. And I think he described them all fairly well. Interestingly, it seems to me that the pre-millennialists disagreed the most vehemently with his thumbnail of his own position, or at least that’s how it seemed to me lol. Anyway, this video is just being nit picky.
@jhart297
@jhart297 5 месяцев назад
What was the warfield quote on the bear witness/progressive conquering view from? Didn't see the reference
@user-mx3kh8rj1t
@user-mx3kh8rj1t 5 месяцев назад
Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but the first BB Warfield quote that you read out loud doesn’t match the quote in the video. That or my mind is worse off than I had previously recognized. Just an fyi, Brother.
@eschatology_matters
@eschatology_matters 5 месяцев назад
Ty!
@markhauserbible7168
@markhauserbible7168 5 месяцев назад
You are right brother. It took me years of study to find the truth. After finding the truth in God's word. I also found the KEY to understanding prophecy. It was so simple, and it would have saved me years of study if someone would have told me about this KEY. The KEY is to STUDY (Not read) what JESUS taught on the end-times FIRST. NOT Revelation FIRST. I would read Revelation over and over and would find passages that SEEM to contradict what Jesus taught. Then the Holy Spirit hit on the head, and my eyes were opened. Jesus (Mostly) taught very PLAINLY. John spoke with SIGNS and SYMBOLS. So, if you think you understand Revelation, you are WRONG, if it does NOT align with what Jesus taught. Thats why pre-tribers and pre-milers THINK they understand revelation, when they COMPLETLY ignore what JESUS taught. This is just one example. Jn5:28-29. ALL that are in the graves shall come forth. (Just and unjust together) Jesus NEVER taught a time period between this event or anyone left behind. Now pre-trib and pre-mil teachers will ADD to Gods word and FORCE a 7 year tribulation and a 1000 year kingdom in these verses, when JESUS DID NOT.
@TrevorEmptage
@TrevorEmptage 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video, Mohler is wrong on many points of theology and application. I'd encouraged him to repent and retire. Speaking of the last two quotes by BB Warfield.. the second to last one was the same as the last one if that could be fixed on the screen.
@jasonkerns5846
@jasonkerns5846 5 месяцев назад
Your theology isn’t the same as mine…I’d encourage you to repent and retire as well. Don’t make ignorant statements.
@bigtobacco1098
@bigtobacco1098 6 дней назад
​@@jasonkerns5846mohler is far away from the nicene creed
@gsp8489
@gsp8489 5 месяцев назад
I was cracking up because he failed to accurately articulate ALL THREE VIEWS lolol. He can have whatever unique premil flavor HE wants I guess but his description of premil didn't even describe what most premil people hold to. He said the millennial reign is an even greater perfection than Eden.......meanwhile MOST premil views say Christ rules with an iron rod, there will be animal sacrifices again, and there will still be wicked people who rise up against Christ at the end of the millennium......that sounds nothing like Mohler's view of a "more perfect Eden" lol
@aftera.d.70priestsofyeshua79
@aftera.d.70priestsofyeshua79 5 месяцев назад
The way I’ve heard it from premils, Yeshua told his disciples to look for his 2nd coming. So Amil & postmil can’t be true.. b/c then it would be still thousands of years away. Sam Frost debate w Pheelan McP is case in point. Sam said they were looking for death 🤪 -Cheers, Paul
@TrevorEmptage
@TrevorEmptage 5 месяцев назад
Partial preterism is required to exegete those passages properly. Look for Sprouls, the last days according to Jesus.
@aftera.d.70priestsofyeshua79
@aftera.d.70priestsofyeshua79 5 месяцев назад
@@TrevorEmptage but they weren’t looking for the resurrection in the 1st century?? Paul said we which are alive and remain.. & we shall not all sleep. Full would sound closer to truth to me. -cheers, Paul
@danielwarton5343
@danielwarton5343 5 месяцев назад
Amil don’t believe in a millennium, they literally don’t believe it. Therefore Amil is no millennium. It is spiritual and not a real 1000 years.
@Pugilist928
@Pugilist928 5 месяцев назад
Amilk believe satan is bound currently ?
@eschatology_matters
@eschatology_matters 5 месяцев назад
Yes. Bound specifically from the power to deceive the nations. But he is still active in other ways
@Pugilist928
@Pugilist928 5 месяцев назад
@@eschatology_matters But the nations are clearly deceived.
@eschatology_matters
@eschatology_matters 5 месяцев назад
If you were to look at the nations in the time of Israel, pre-Christ, they were fully pagan and in the dark. Post Ressurection, we have 2000 years of nations in varying degrees bowing the knee to Christ. Even now the Church is growing in places like China and Iran. This was not so before the binding.
@simonbrown1486
@simonbrown1486 5 месяцев назад
Sorry, who are you, Dr Josh? I’ve never heard of you.
@eschatology_matters
@eschatology_matters 5 месяцев назад
Josh Howard serves as the Elder/Pastor at Grace Community Church in Battle Creek, MI. Josh is an alumni of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary (PhD, ThM), Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary (MDiv), and Northern Arizona University (MS). Josh is also an adjunct instructor at William Woods University and has taught extension classes through MBTS, author of several books, and co-hosts the Good Doctrine Podcast and The Age to Come Webcast, and he is the co-founder and general editor of Eschatology Matters.
@shanewilson2484
@shanewilson2484 5 месяцев назад
I'm Panmil😆
@Maddog_Mark
@Maddog_Mark 5 месяцев назад
Is that LGBT thing? Jk
@shanewilson2484
@shanewilson2484 5 месяцев назад
@@Maddog_Mark How did you know I'm lez? 😆
@ThereforeGo
@ThereforeGo 5 месяцев назад
I was like that for 10 years until I listened thru Jeff Durbin’s sermon series on Matthew 24.
@deangailwahl8270
@deangailwahl8270 5 месяцев назад
8:00 Mohler, things have been getting better and better. Of course not all the time. Would you rather live now or 100 years ago, how about 500 years ago etc. When Christ first came there was almost no believers it has been said there is up to 20% of the World are Christians. Jesus is ruling now and the last enemy to defeat is death 1st Corinthians 15:26-28. Your thinking says we are losing until Christ returns. Some have said anything other then postmil the glass is half empty instead of half full.
@toddstevens9667
@toddstevens9667 5 месяцев назад
20% of the world are Christians??? I doubt 1% are real Christians.
@JesusBothLordandChrist
@JesusBothLordandChrist 5 месяцев назад
I have a friend who is Historic Premill and he is so pessimistic, even to the point that he doesn't see much of a need to pray because everything is going downhill so fast why bother. It's really such a pessimistic view as well as unscriptural. Can't talk too much of eschatology with my friend because it's super discouraging. Very sad.
@deangailwahl8270
@deangailwahl8270 5 месяцев назад
@SavedbytheBloodofJesus8453 Also it says God is not in control.
@JesusBothLordandChrist
@JesusBothLordandChrist 5 месяцев назад
@@deangailwahl8270 It does seem so. He's a reformed Baptist so he believes in the sovereignty of God. But it does seem like his faith is very small at times. Like the channel name says, "Eschatology Matters".
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