AMISH FARRIER: All Your Questions Answered!!

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Today Jim is headed to see Eli, our Amish Farrier, to get answers to all of the questions you asked in the comments! Eli is answering questions about shoeing horses and why we use the horse shoes that we use. Jim also explains how snow pads work. Then, Eli gets to work putting new shoes on Lady and Bill.
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@joepond9587 2 года назад

Please let Eli know that we appreciate him letting us watch as he works on the horses. Nice job. Thanks.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

We will

@petermartinez5573 2 года назад

Another wonderful learning experience. Eli is definitely a master in his trade.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Yes he does a great job

@charliefryer5184 2 года назад

Thanks Eli and Andy for allowing Jim to document your work, I appreciate it! Charlie

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Will pass that on!

@carolynharmon7074 2 года назад

A good Farrier is just like a good mechanic, trust and quality are more important than the cost.

@markabell3179 2 года назад

Jim, another great video. You are lucky to have Eli. My farrier is also Amish and he is the best one we've ever had. Thank Eli for allowing us to see him in action.

@290wayne 2 года назад

Thank you ELI. Your amazing...

@tylerwells8314 2 года назад

Jim if you think those shoes are small , you should see the ones that I put on a Newfoundland Pony named Bonnie! They are 2.5 inch , I try to find the tiniest nails possible. I can manage to get three on a side. She’s hard to shoe , and being about 10 hands makes it extremely hard on the back! But you should see that little girl trot in a sled . Unbelievable how fast she is!

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Yes, she sounds like a challenge to shoe! Small but mighty!

@donkerr8709 2 года назад

I'm also a leatherworker and I buy my leather and hardware from Weaver's. A great company

@mfc4591 2 года назад

It must be great to have a reliable man like Eli not too far away. Have a great week and keep safe in these woods

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Yes it is great!,Thanks!

@otakelblanchemanor0659 2 года назад

A good farrier is worth their weight and more in gold! Great video!

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Totally agree!

@henryhankwarrenyohe2541 2 года назад

As for cost, as you stated it depends upon english or amish, certified or non certified. Also what the horse requires. My son is AFA certified and is in California, which requires all farriers to be certified. He started with drafts as we showed and breed Percherons. Good intro to shoeing.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and for sharing, interesting

@mtrcitykid2836 2 года назад

Thank you Jim and Eli for the great video, it’s a joy to watch the horses getting new shoes, never knew there were different shoes for different seasons

@patpower5239 2 года назад

Very educational video, the different size of shoes, how extraordinary. Everybody to their own, Eli knows his business. Another enjoyable video Jim.

@KEarllongJr 2 года назад

Lady stands so patiently

@davewallace.8303 2 года назад

I loved how Eli uses that magnet on his left knee to ho,d the nails with. Necessity is the mother if invention.

@ronharrison1776 2 года назад

love the questions and answers part of the video . Also love watching the shoes put on the horses . Thank you Eli .

@nebbindog6126 2 года назад

That was interesting about the pads. Couldn't have Eli tucked the oakum under Ladies blanket while he trimmed and shoed? Would imagine it would limber up.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Good idea!

@Elizabeth-arb22 2 года назад

This was really informative, so thanks Jim. And thanks to Eli for allowing you to film and us to see the process. Very interesting to learn that oakum, used in caulking wooden ships, is also used for keeping it dry between the snow pad and the foot.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@benzoverakers1877 2 года назад

Good to see the snow pads, so informative!!!

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Good to hear!

@kimfleury 2 года назад

That was really interesting. I noticed that Jim didn't do any correcting or directing of Lady, he left Eli to give the commands. That makes sense. 💕🐎

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for watching

@jamesmorrison1884 2 года назад

Hello Jim lots of work to taking care of your horses. Very good video. Have a great day.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks, you too

@davidmunro1469 2 года назад

Thank you Jim . Lady and Bill will have good safe traction know.

@peteantos-ketcham3493 2 года назад

Great video. Thanks for sharing more of Eli's shop and his work.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@johnkomosa4089 2 года назад

Great video. Hello to Eli and Andy from Alaska. You guys have Forged a Fine Business Relationship. That is valuable. I laughed when you set the working horse shoes next to the race horse shoes. Ewahha! Wow, with the cross bar Awesome, and the length of those Cleats! Holly Cow!, I mean Draft Horse. Ah ha, cleats like Dillon's shoes on Lambeau Field. Congratulations to the Buffalo Bills fans, I am happy for your breaking the long drought. Anyways, ....Great video. Thanks Fellas..., and Lady,..."Lady, hold still" typical Lady,, excited to get new shoes,, as Brenda says..."High Heels" Ah ha, Love it. So impressive.. Power, transferring that power to the ground then forward. The proof is in the pudding.. Salute

@henrydeyoung7689 2 года назад

That was a very interesting video!!! Very informative. I’m sure,Jim, you trust him as a good farrier but also how he treats your horses. He talked to Lady much like you.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@brucemarach8762 2 года назад

Thanks Eli

@ronhaworth5471 2 года назад

My wife loves the colts.Good to see new video.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

My wife does too. Thanks for watching

@briannapier8337 2 года назад

Interesting video Jim, thanks for the information

@mcrickyd32 2 года назад

This was a cool video thanks for the insight from both you and Eli.

@joelbackus3976 2 года назад

What a great man Eli is let him know thank you as i know you do Jim thanks for the video good one on this snowy day lol in NY

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Will do! Thanks for watching

@woodchuck1946 2 года назад

Impressive how respectful you are about their wish for privacy. 👍

@jimmclam 2 года назад

Good job Eli and nice video Jim! Eli has a nice shop to work in there and believe me once you start the job a heater isn't necessary! Being out of the wind, snowbanks and having a stock is a great help for farriers ,especially for the draft horses. The guys who have mobile shops never know what circumstances they might be working in and quite often it is muddy barnyards, snowbanks, and swarming horse flies and switching tails in summertime to say nothing of "green" colts and/or rank animals that owners have neglected to train to be handled. Believe me, Lady and Bill would be a pleasure to work on!! Shoeing horses is a real tough job, hard work and vicious on your back. When I was shoeing back in the day I never had ANY customer complain about the fee. When I was young and just starting out shoeing an old timer farrier told me: "There are three things a farrier can go to H... for: (1) Handling rogue horses(2) pounding cold steel and (3) not charging enough!

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@kingwood4357 2 года назад

Very interesting, Thanks for showing.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@douglasbruce1713 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

You bet

@mervjb809 2 года назад

I live fairly close to Weaver Leather, where Eli gets his leather supplies. They're a very reputable company

@turklayher4794 2 года назад

Great video Jim. It was a learning experience of this wonderful trade. Alot of patience on elis' behalf as well as the horse 🐎. Thanks for showing us how this is done.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@dlsiver 2 года назад

Thank you for abiding by their wishes. They are hard working honest people who live by their beliefs not quite the same with people of other or no beliefs.

@grantburnett 2 года назад

Very nice presentation Jim.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

thanks

@juliaA_1985 2 года назад

Very educational video, thank you all for the info. I have never had to deal with snow with my horse. I grew up in WNY but I didn’t get a horse until I moved to Florida. It was really interesting seeing how you deal with the snowballs in their feet. I have a farrier appt tomorrow morning coincidentally. We just do a barefoot trim so nothing super complicated thankfully.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for your comments, guess you don't need snowpads down there!😀

@jerryjarrell206 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing great video your lucky to have someone to help

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Yes we are fortunate to have him close by!

@sherronpaul37 2 года назад

Thank you so much for your expertise and information. I own ranch horses but love learning about your heavies. 🇨🇦❤️

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@randybutler4772 2 года назад

Very interesting to see this process and the difference between draft horse shoe and harness horse shoe. Thank you for sharing to Eli.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@gregwitkamp5583 2 года назад

aokcrum is used for a lot of different jobs, it was used in leading in cast iron drain pipe.

@kimcwhite6509 2 года назад

Jim, I love how you take such good care of your horses by blanketing them for the trailer ride! Eli is so kind to let us look at his shop and beautiful craftsmanship in leather work and shoeing. I live in Northern California and at my age I will never seen Amish work up close except through your videos. I agree with not disclosing the price, it's Eli's and your business. For non-horse people, horses are expensive and shoeing is just one expense every 6 - 8 weeks. I'm used to the smaller shoes (Quarter Horses). Thx again Eli!

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing your comments

@tomfillmore9710 2 года назад

good job Eli very impressive thanks for sharing enjoyed watching take care

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks 👍

@robertlivingstone3947 2 года назад

Jim very interesting video and tell eli thanks for letting us in his shop and answering all the questions and bill and lady look good

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Will do, thanks for wathcing

@x_Dude1 2 года назад

Interesting how to make it work better for the snow.

@russlong7175 2 года назад

Lady is pretty patient

@johngraham6918 2 года назад

They used wooden horse shoes on the east coast for harvesting kelp on the shore so the hooves wouldn’t rot from being wet for long periods.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Interesting! Thanks for sharing!

@lwinnekins4303 2 года назад

Very interesting video. I had never seen horses shoed before, but did watch my Granddad clean and trim their horses hooves when I was a young lad. They never shoed their horses as they were seldom on any roads. Watching Jim with the horses reminds me of my Granddad as he was quite a teamster in his day working in the Northwoods of Upper Michigan.

@plainsimple442 2 года назад

I believe that the different shoe designs provide traction for different jobs and conditions.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for watching

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Right!

@jipjojed 2 года назад

Had to smile...like with my horse, when farrier works, horse looks at owner with puppy dog eyes that say, please....make him stop! ☺

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Haha, you are probably right!

@constantisalvador 2 года назад

Good work

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Yes, he does a great job

@michaelstickland6938 2 года назад

Let Eli and his apprentice Andy it was kind of him to let us watch his technique. Thank-you.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

will try to pass that on, thanks

@jamescox8233 2 года назад

jim thank you for taking me to ELi,s . i appreciated this very much. say hi to your family for me. jim datrmouth nova scotia canada

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Hi Jim, thanks for watching! Will do!

@biddydibdab9180 2 года назад

Always fascinating watching a farrier work. A good farrier is worth their weight in gold. Forgot to ask last time, what brand of hoof nippers has Eli found to be the best?

@davewallace.8303 2 года назад

Boy, oaken has been used for centuries in the Navy, never knew it was used for horses though!

@dawidvandyk296 2 года назад

Good Evening from South Africa.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Good evening and thanks for watching

@catladynj 2 года назад

Your lucky that you have access to some one with this type of skill.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

That's for sure!

@m.harris2429 2 года назад

Thanks with the great Q&A with Eli. It was kind of him to take our questions. Just curious, is your decision to get shoes for Duke and Earl based on their age or when they start working?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

when they start working

@BootScootinBoo 2 года назад

Have never seen oakum put in like that, my farrier set it in before nailing…

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Guess there's more than 1 way to do most things. Interesting!

@ellisc.foleyjr9778 2 года назад

Another great video and tutorial. another question for Eli, is there a specific size/weight hammer he uses or likes for driving the nails in the shoes. and any specific claw? Thank him again for allowing us to look over his shoulder. and for sharing. ECF

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Will pass on the thanks and will try to remember to ask him about the hammer

@henryhankwarrenyohe2541 2 года назад

There different styles, depends on the maker. They're referred to as driving hammers and are usually 10 or 12 Oz heads. Do a Google search. Also, some are quite expensive.

@benjamincornish897 2 года назад

When I was about16 I helped my friend who was shoeing draft horses and I had to hold the foot while he did the shoeing.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Sounds like you were a big help, hard work

@mickholroyd2190 2 года назад

Good to see/hear the Q n A.. would have been nice to show a nail how its bevelled to come out of the hoof..does Eli watch the finished video or is that against Amish practises?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

No Eli doesn't watch the finished video but he is very gracious to allow his work to be filmed.

@johnblaha275 2 года назад

Have You ever thought about the Composite Horseshoes? They provide your horse with more Cushioned and Shock Absorbing shoes that create less impact on their feet and joints. With the work that that do in the woods and on the farm, just thought with the differnt things you can try. What Horseshoe's may work better. (John B. Central Wisconsin)

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks for the suggestion

@suzanneyoung8011 2 года назад

Thanks for the video. Very informative about the snow pads. As for the smaller shoes that he said was for race horses, I wonder if Eli meant after they're over their racing careers or during? I can tell you with certainty that those are not racing plates for Thoroughbred racing, because they are much lighter and thinner than what those appeared to be. Maybe he was referring to shoes for Standardbred harness racing. I have no knowledge of the types they use and could be different than shoes used for Thoroughbred flat racing.

@ingeborgm6147 2 года назад

Like you, I believe he would have to mean harness racing and it explain how he has contact with them. Race horses rarely or never meet up with the fairground crows where you can watch tractor pulls and harness racing .

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Eli deals with horses that were harness racing horses (retired). He also shoes for a lot of the harness racers.

@tinachambers4887 2 года назад

Someone smarter than me needs to invent an an automated horseshoe press lol have a day gentlemen love from TEXAS

@ryanrhees9551 2 года назад

Jim you ever come to mt hope Ohio to the horse sale ? If you do I would like to meet you and show you some of my Amish friends.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

We have been to the Mt Hope sale, would love to go again!

@russlong7175 2 года назад

At 20:29 Lady is looking under thinking what are you doing

@Dusty47 2 года назад

What sect are they associated with? I appreciate the way that you respect their wishes !! Good job !

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Schwartzentruber Amish

@nolankeeler3519 2 года назад

I had a saddle mule that I rode for several years her shoes were triple 000 any smaller would be a pony shoe

@openrangelivestockguarddog4041 2 года назад

A question for everyone: How are horse hames made? I have researched the subject and have come up empty handed. I'm assuming they were originally fabricated from solid stock by the local blacksmith, or even in wood on the farm. How and where are modern tubular steel hames manufactured? How is the tube tapered? Is it heated and put into a fuller to forge the taper? Maybe someday a video on this subject if a source of information is found? Thank you!

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Good question, I have no idea. I will ask around.

@r.f.richardsonjr5691 2 года назад

Those pads are like Air Jordan's for Horses LOL

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

haha

@ponygirl5716 2 года назад

The last time that I had a horse shod with pads, the farrier had switched over from oakum to silicone caulking. It was so much easier to do and it filled it in without having to worry about any lumps in there that might make the horse sore over time. The way he was struggling to push that all come in there, it made me think that there’s going to be some lumps and bumps that are going to be pressing down on her foot. Has he ever considered using silicone caulking instead? Does he have a preference to use oakum? Why?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

I never used it, I don't know if Eli ever has, I will have to ask him. The okum has worked great for us though. Thanks for the suggestion

@normafollet7156 2 года назад

Do the bar shoes go on the front feet only? And is a stick or something else likely to get stuck in the bar when your working?

@wallacejeffery5786 2 года назад

How long will winter shoes last? Same question for non winter shoes

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

I could possibly get a couple years out of them.

@momclean 2 года назад

Hi, how does the snow pad.affect the frog?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

It actually helps the whole bottom of the hoof, seems to soften it up

@lesliewbogertsr7492 2 года назад

Jim - I have used Amish to do some shoeing - however I helped a guy back in the 70's ( non Amish) and he taught me the difference between a country and city horseshoe nails - have you ever heard of them?

@alangknowles 2 года назад

What's the difference? Are they steel of different grades?

@michaelhester3147 2 года назад

The difference is the head of the nail!

@lesliewbogertsr7492 2 года назад

@@michaelhester3147 wrong - the heads are the same but lengths are different

@henryhankwarrenyohe2541 2 года назад

If you go to a farrier supply, you find nails come in many different nail sizes and head shapes. Just like shoes.

@lesliewbogertsr7492 2 года назад

@@henryhankwarrenyohe2541 that is true however they are used differently - I have watched different horses being shod in you tube videos - and there are many choices such as race horses vs other types of horses - the choices depends on the usage and purpose of the horses - for instance - draft horses put a lot of strain on shoes and nails compared to most other types of horses therefore choices must be based on that - who wants a horse loosing shoe during the job?

@kenhurley4441 2 года назад

Post shoeing question. How thick is the hoof wall on Lady or other draft horses?

@kenhurley4441 2 года назад

I also figured out that there's a magnet in his chaps that the nails stick to.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Not sure

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Yes, it works great

@whippetpepper 2 года назад

Does Eli use a shoeing stock for the lighter breeds as well or are they just used for the heavy horses? Stocks are not something I’ve ever seen or heard of in New Zealand.

@lynnehuff9659 2 года назад

Looks like he's useing them for the heavy horses. There was an area kind of like a carport where he shoes the light horses. Some shoe draft horses without stocks. In Europe, I've seen videos of drafters being shod in stocks. Often, two men would work on one horse.

@stuglenn1112 2 года назад

I get needing the cleats for the Ice, do you ever run them barefooted in the summer or are you on paved roads too much?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

I sometimes run barefoot in the summer if I am just doing farmwork

@benjamincornish897 2 года назад

I am 65 now

@Joe90V 2 года назад

Aah, I wondered if your horses had overcoats. My thought is answered. Is there a set temperature that has to be reached before they wear them? Thanks, bw.

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Depends on a few variables- the wind, if they have been working and have been sweating. No set temperature

@JerryMower 2 года назад

Where can a person purchase a bubble pad and the pine tar filling for shoeing horses for winter snow?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Maybe Meader's out of New Hampshire

@JerryMower 2 года назад

@@WorkingHorsesWithJim thank you

@gerhardwidmann5016 2 года назад

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤️

@justhaulincars 2 года назад

How often do you need to reshoe your horses?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Every 6 -8 weeks

@Canyoncreekfarms 2 года назад

What is the okum(spelling?) for?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

helps keep the hoof moisturized and keeps it from drying out

@jaspersknoll9013 2 года назад

A question for Elli. Do you ever have to reshape a shoe specifically for a certain horse? If so how is that done?

@andyherzog7767 2 года назад

Yes they need reshaped to specific feet. And it can be done cold on the anvil with a hammer or heated in a forge to make the steel easier to move

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Thanks Andy, I'm glad other people answer some of these questions. I know you do some shoeing, so you are probably more qualified that me to answer it

@andyherzog7767 2 года назад

I enjoy your videos always interested in how other guys do things to make a living working horses

@henryhankwarrenyohe2541 2 года назад

Draft horse shoes must be heated for reshaping.

@rodneywroten2994 2 года назад

I might have missed it Jim but the cord or rope he put with the screw driver is to keep debris from getting between the plate and horse?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

That's actually the Oakum he's putting in there, to keep the hoof soft and to help protect the sole of the foot

@rodneywroten2994 2 года назад

@@WorkingHorsesWithJim Thanks Jim

@stevejackson8600 2 года назад

Seems like that would be uncomfortable. Just like something in my sock.

@bobanmilosevic3897 2 года назад

👍👍👍🙂

@arkiefyler 2 года назад

Were Lady and Bill in blankets because they would NOT be doing any 'work' while getting re-shoed?

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Yes, and for the travel in the trailer and it was quite a cold day

@dannygoin6552 2 года назад

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@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

👍

@ellencarver5575 2 года назад

Another excellent video really very interesting Eli is for sure a Master Farrier. You are very fortunate to have him so near your farm and he is able to shoe your horses

@WorkingHorsesWithJim 2 года назад

Yes we sure are!