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Ampere Time (LiTime) 12V 200ah Lithium Battery Tear Down (100amp BMS version). 

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@davidpatrick1813
@davidpatrick1813 Год назад
I am so glad you use your experience in feel to stop torque. 50 years ago when I first started mechanizing, the shop would use threaded bolts on brake shoe lining. As a novice the shop owner told me to tighten them all until each broke. Over the years he would break one on purpose to keep that feel... back to the show.. pat
@jackthefunshack8618
@jackthefunshack8618 2 года назад
there is a lot of empty "waisted" space in there, because that is the same box the 300ah battery comes in, which is what I have at home that is going into my camper van. It is so nice for me that the extra 100ah can fit into the same footprint! Oh! and thank you so much for doing the exploration for me, I was so curious, but not brave enough to do what you are doing! I really appreciate this!
@baneverything5580
@baneverything5580 2 года назад
I just ordered the 300 ah one, a 60 amp MPPT charge controller, and a 2000 watt inverter to have emergency solar power in my camper. The last of my disability back pay. I can`t imagine not having emergency power here in a hurricane zone. I have seven 300 watt solar power stations, two 500 watt, and two 700 watt Bluetti EB70s for lights, fans, 12 volt cookers, and a dorm fridge and small chest freezer. The big battery will be for using a tiny Frigidaire window AC to prevent heat stroke if another storm hits my area in August. I hope to upgrade the system for fast charging at some point. I only have 490 watts of glass panels right now and 100 and 120 watt folding ones. Haven`t yet thought about how to connect them.
@coreybabcock2023
@coreybabcock2023 Год назад
I took mine apart too
@massa-blasta
@massa-blasta Год назад
The 200Ah, 300Ah, and 400Ah are all using the same case. 😲
@caseywampler5890
@caseywampler5890 2 года назад
Thanks for taking the time to make this video! It was really helpful. Any additional info about charge and usage would be greatly appreciated!
@casajardinez
@casajardinez 2 года назад
Finally an explanation on the Plus and regular battery description, thanks
@troyladoux1953
@troyladoux1953 2 года назад
Brave man to break down one of these.
@coreybabcock2023
@coreybabcock2023 Год назад
Just took mine apart
@davidpatrick1813
@davidpatrick1813 Год назад
I have the same 200 Ah unit purchased in May 22. I am not happy with their support. I'd been having issues and not used the unit much, led lights and so on and I wanted to upgrade to a 400Ah system because of wanting to use a not yet installed Victron 12V multi plus ii 3000. Well they said after three months one cannot add a second battery or expand but have to buy all new units. Mine only had three charge cycles and kept topped with a Victron charger 65 something or other. So rather than being taken to the cleaners I am thinking of building my higher capacity system. thus researching. A cell company said when built one and expand in time whereas when all in one battery we have to consider their configuration and BMS. With proper busbar sequence one can expand the 12V to more capacity while maintaining 12V use 1 BMS. thus, I am going to look into my new (Amperetime says "old") 6 month owned battery (Yeh, where does 5 years fit in?) and if bolted use their cells as part of an all new system expandable and safe. I could be burping but that is the direction. The 100 amp unit WP reviewed is all welded. Mine could be so that could be a crimp in the plan.
@DSmartLife
@DSmartLife 2 года назад
Great teardown! I think 10nm is quite a lot for those aluminum terminals. EVE recommends max 8nm, dunno what's the limit of those Ganfeng Cells. And thanks for showing a clear QR code, other people hardly do that. According to that cell's QR it was manufactured in 2021 May (B5), must be new cells, that's great to know.
@bzeug
@bzeug 2 года назад
I still have not found a website to decode the QR code. How did you know the date? Is it just B=2021 and 5 is May?
@DSmartLife
@DSmartLife 2 года назад
@@bzeug Yes that's right. There is no official guide to decode for Ganfeng Cells. But EVE data sheets have the guide. And most major manufacturers are following the same standard. In your case, I think they skipped day code (0), but I have seen 86Ah Ganfeng Cells have it. Anyways a brief guide is as follows: Manufacturer code part: 0AL: Manufacturer (Usually) eg. 02Y: EVE C: Cell B: LiFePO4 Rest are cell model and factory location etc. Serial Code part: Character#1: 9, A, B, C: 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 Character#2: 1-9: Jan-Sep; A-C: Oct-Dec Character#3: 1-9: Day 1-9; A-V: Day 10-31 Rest are serial number. Works on cells from EVE, Ganfeng, CALb, Gotion, etc. CATL cells might have a 3 digit code in the front, e.g. 003B9C... So if we ignore 003 then the decoding should work as above.
@mihailmugurelo4279
@mihailmugurelo4279 2 года назад
I can provide “PRODUCT SPECIFICATION pdf “ of this GFB 100ah FFH4D3 if someone wanted.
@bzeug
@bzeug 2 года назад
@@mihailmugurelo4279 I would appreciate that. Can you email that to BZEUG.YT@outlook.com
@mihailmugurelo4279
@mihailmugurelo4279 2 года назад
@@bzeug SENT
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing 2 года назад
You have to start being watchful.. As some manufacturer are putting TTL chips in the BMS...Once it has run so many cycles. It will never charge the cells again. Even if they are still good...
@baneverything5580
@baneverything5580 2 года назад
These claim 4000 cycles....and what`s considered a cycle? I thought that was a full charge/discharge?
@Sniffyboy
@Sniffyboy 2 года назад
Thank you for your sacrifice!!
@coreybabcock2023
@coreybabcock2023 Год назад
I'm thinking of taking mine apart
@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie
@Vlfkfnejisjejrjtjrie 2 года назад
Subscribed! Thanks for the awesome teardown!
@Foxfried
@Foxfried 2 года назад
According to your date code it was made sometime in May 2021.
@Kootzo89
@Kootzo89 2 года назад
I was curious to know how long did it take to charge the battery with the victron 12v 30ah charger? Was thinking of getting the same charger to run on a small generator
@bzeug
@bzeug 2 года назад
I just ran a test today. From 11 volts to 14.7volts took 6 hours and 28 minutes.
@baneverything5580
@baneverything5580 2 года назад
@@bzeug I ordered a 20 amp charger with my 300 ah.
@2hotscottpro
@2hotscottpro 9 месяцев назад
That’s wild because I’ve seen battery ads say 2.5 hours with there 20 amp charger.But they didn’t say the starting charge point for 2.5 hours.
@brandonatiz348
@brandonatiz348 2 года назад
Do you have the measurement of the cells and bms? I am looking to make as small of a footprint as possible with this battery.
@bzeug
@bzeug 2 года назад
I just measured. As you see the battery in the video, from left to right is 16 inches, front to back is 6 inches maybe another 1/8", then bottom to top of terminals is going to need 6 inches to clear all the terminal wiring.
@2hotscottpro
@2hotscottpro 9 месяцев назад
Probably the common 20.5 inch box.
@boscodog4358
@boscodog4358 Год назад
Love your video. Can you explain how to "Troubleshoot " a. BMS.
@jameschampion2946
@jameschampion2946 2 года назад
I have 4 200ah Lithium battery's Can anyone show me a diagram to series them to24v? Thank you James
@baneverything5580
@baneverything5580 2 года назад
Yes, that is confusing to think about. Maybe do two batteries in series, then the other two, and ....never mind. I have no idea actually. LOL! I just ordered a 300 ah one like this. I hope it lasts. Huge purchase for me but I`m on disability, no transportation, living in a camper in a hurricane zone. I hope to power a tiny window AC enough after these storms to keep the temperature below 90 in my camper. I have 11 solar power stations for lights, fans, WIFI, 12 volt cookers, a dorm fridge, and a small chest freezer. The big battery will really help a lot connected to solar. And now I know I can get inside it if the BMS ever needs replacing.
@milesabove5259
@milesabove5259 2 года назад
There needs to be a new standard for the sizing of these batteries. All of them are just made to fit in lead acid battery size cases. They need one size 12v battery and more cells can be added for your voltage or amp requirements.
@OffGridOverLander
@OffGridOverLander 2 года назад
Thank you for doing this video, I bought the same batteries making the mistake thinking I could run them in series. My 24v Victron inverter wouldn’t charge them in series even though the BMS in the battery never cut-off power. I’m seriously thinking of getting a new BMS for 24v instead of 12v so that I can still use these batteries.
@car2069
@car2069 2 года назад
Just adjust your victron for the higher voltages the lithiums run at and youll be fine. it will charge them.
@OffGridOverLander
@OffGridOverLander 2 года назад
@@car2069 I already went through all that with the Victron service rep. Changed all manner of settings but didn’t do any good.
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 2 года назад
you can run them in series, you just can't change them in series. Get a 2 bank charger and charge each cell independently.
@OffGridOverLander
@OffGridOverLander 2 года назад
@@riccochet704 I’ve already changed the BMSs to 24v 8s ones so I can charge them off the Victron. Thanks though 👍
@Tro1086
@Tro1086 2 года назад
@@riccochet704 Really, that makes no sense? So you can discharge them and then have to take the series connections apart and re charge each one individually??? Im currently running 4 of these on a 12v inverter in hopes that I could series them up once I can upgrade to a 48v inverter. All the documentation I have seen on them shows them being able to connect up to 4 in series for 48v, but that would be retarded if you are not able to charge them.
@nicholaspirola9083
@nicholaspirola9083 Год назад
I specify that I have a 70 lb brushless electric motor that runs on 12v, is the 12v 100mh or the 12.8 mini model better?
@nicholaspirola3380
@nicholaspirola3380 Год назад
can i use this battery to power a 70lb boat electric motor that runs on 12v!?thanks
@coreybabcock2023
@coreybabcock2023 Год назад
I might move the cells and BMS of my battery into a smaller marine battery box
@seano51
@seano51 2 года назад
What are you using these batteries for?
@5885ronny
@5885ronny Год назад
Gutes Video 👍
@deshawnbaker5992
@deshawnbaker5992 2 года назад
How much was this battery
@bzeug
@bzeug 2 года назад
about 700 don't forget to clip the coupon. affiliate link amzn.to/3KSXfLm
@tinyhomeincred-i-box
@tinyhomeincred-i-box Год назад
why not cut tape on the edge to open that yellow cover?
@Ugpearl256mubarak
@Ugpearl256mubarak 2 года назад
Like this
@adensmith8553
@adensmith8553 Год назад
Anyone takes these out of the oversize case and run the battery without the case ? I want to put these in a RV and that case is eating up alot of real estate.
@frits183
@frits183 2 года назад
Where to buy in Europa 🤔
@Dzuljo
@Dzuljo Год назад
www.amperetime.de/ Enjoy
@user-dr2pg8fk2i
@user-dr2pg8fk2i Год назад
People need to stop pretending any of these batteries are serviceable.
@davidkierzkowski
@davidkierzkowski 2 года назад
Towing the bolts gave me anxiety!!
@bzeug
@bzeug 2 года назад
Me too!
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