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aMSa turned this stock around in 0.017 seconds. Here's how. (feat.  

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En route to aMSa's historic victory at #TBH10, he ran into a formidable opponent in the Canadian Fox main and global rank 31 Soonsay, who brought a number of brilliant adaptations to the Yoshi matchup. aMSa, however, could not be stopped at this tournament. We’ll be breaking down aMSa's reversal in Game 1 of the set which relied on a one-frame window to succeed.
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@MeleeMoments
@MeleeMoments Год назад
thanks for the s/o walt! :) loved the analysis and visuals. the section on the drill interaction with yoshi's DJ armor was especially great!
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
Appreciate you letting me use your short in this! Looking forward to a more formal collab soon!
@thescribe509
@thescribe509 Год назад
TDFW found Melee Moments, I see.
@DroppedMyMarbles
@DroppedMyMarbles Год назад
Love that fucking channel so much, it deserves to pop off
@drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569
3:37 Editing in Yoshi doing egg lay was a pretty sick edit. Also the having that same Yoshi fading away as the actual match continues was really cool.
@DoomShrm
@DoomShrm Год назад
Amazing commentary from Drake&Josh Official RU-vid Channel
@drinkmug
@drinkmug Год назад
thanks
@WhoMightThis1Be
@WhoMightThis1Be Год назад
Blows my mind so hard that he can just react and go "this 3 frame window doesn't have enough combo potential, lets go for the 1 frame window" almost as as much as the fact he actually hit it too
@dddmemaybe
@dddmemaybe Год назад
He actually has the whole micro sequence in active muscle memory there even though it only works when both players are at very low percent. It's way too fast to raw react, there is a great amount of diligence in the training regiment to be able to have that level of confidence. He very likely isn't thinking about frame windows but, rather that he already has a plan for when both players are low percent in this match-up, and is ready to pull out every possible power move for the situation, regardless of how much training he needs to pull them off.
@Vernias
@Vernias Год назад
That was a phenomenal breakdown, you're easily one of the greatest Smash creators ever
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
Thank you so much!
@playerdreamer181
@playerdreamer181 Год назад
the fact both Melee moments and Turndownforwalt made a in-depth analysis of this game just shows how perfect the gameplay actually was
@drunkhyperjuice
@drunkhyperjuice Год назад
i was feeling a little weird about this video until i saw you specifically added melee moments guy. Great video
@joeldixton5627
@joeldixton5627 Год назад
We love to see it creators signal boosting creators
@on_certainty
@on_certainty Год назад
good Melee Moments cameo! was a little bummed when i saw the title at first because of their video, but it's good to know it's with blessing!
@Spoooob
@Spoooob Год назад
BRO MELEE MOMENTS GOATED. What a cool Collab
@user-kh3jj4rx2v
@user-kh3jj4rx2v Год назад
Just like the melee community to be the best supporter of the melee community. We love to see it
@Spoooob
@Spoooob Год назад
@@user-kh3jj4rx2v Melee is so sick. Started watching during 2015 and haven't looked back. Game is hard to play but watching from RU-vid is so awesome
@user-kh3jj4rx2v
@user-kh3jj4rx2v Год назад
I've played it for 20 years and still suck...just so much. It's all fun though. Give it a chance. It'll make pro stuff seem even cooler imo
@Duffy_SSBM
@Duffy_SSBM Год назад
This took already high quality analysis and raised it even further. The editing at 3:41 is so cool and feels like legit sports
@singledigitdan
@singledigitdan Год назад
common amsa W
@iSShadowzz
@iSShadowzz Год назад
you aint even watch the whole video yet lmfao
@singledigitdan
@singledigitdan Год назад
@@iSShadowzz common amsa W
@theclaws1976
@theclaws1976 Год назад
@@iSShadowzz i finished the video,common amsa W
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
Beeg yoshi
@AtomicFire41
@AtomicFire41 Год назад
We stan aMSa, single handedly moving his main all over the tier lists
@Jayluna98
@Jayluna98 Год назад
This was an excellent breakdown of so many things in Melee! Editing was great as well!
@DubYuhGChoppa
@DubYuhGChoppa Год назад
Definitely a good idea to keep pushing this type of content, these videos blow up in the algorithm it seems
@rubadub15
@rubadub15 Год назад
Love this format walt. Thank you for your content as always. I love in depth analysis like this
@summonerds9706
@summonerds9706 Год назад
Your editing is so good and really adds value to your breakdowns of these moments
@equu497
@equu497 Год назад
Wow, I've been out of the melee scene for quite some time, and seeing the incredible editing in this production goes to show just how far everything has come. This is really amazing stuff man, really excited to see more.
@compromisedssh
@compromisedssh Год назад
Your frame data videos are always amazing. Like most Melee people, I have no idea how Yoshi works. This was great.
@sugarhouse8512
@sugarhouse8512 Год назад
This is by far the most informative and important melee channel. Thank you for all your hard work.
@Bones_
@Bones_ Год назад
So much to say about this video. First I think it's so great hearing such in depth commentary for melee in general because you don't always get play by play commentary during matches let alone at half this level of knowledge (not knocking commentators because the game is so fast and before you can explain most things 10 other things already happened). Also Amsa's option select in the situation just shows how truly insane his level of play is. In a game this fast, he has the awareness in a very short window to both pick the optimal option when what will and won't work is already just separated by one or two frames, but then also executes it perfectly. He has more neurons firing in his brain in one second of gameplay than me watching an entire match trying to follow everything he's doing. And then you have that guest come in to give some extra analysis and ask that we check them out too (and I'm thinking yeah sure who is this?) and it's the amazing Melee Moments who I subbed a few weeks ago after seeing just one immaculate video of theirs. That channel deserves all the extra attention it can get and just like this one really elevates the whole community with amazingly nuanced analysis that efficiently breaks down gameplay that further enhances our enjoyment of the game as well as gives a gateway for newer players to more advanced concepts. It's all done so well that it can be understood and enjoyed by any level of player/viewer.
@mrlucius57
@mrlucius57 Год назад
The depth of this is fucking awesome, seeing the alternate timeline option animated right next to the clip is great
@jactotum
@jactotum Год назад
Real excited for melee moments to show off their knowledge. Their one frame link video was a great thing to find in my home page
@canadianbaka
@canadianbaka Год назад
unequivocally the best technical breakdowns around. Really excellent stuff
@skii_mask_
@skii_mask_ Год назад
hey so uhhhhhhh this is the best fucking melee analysis I've ever seen. please keep doing this, it was AWESOME.
@ssjayy9103
@ssjayy9103 Год назад
This production quality is so insane
@Sasoripwns
@Sasoripwns Год назад
so proud of soonsay. Alberta is such a fun region to be part of.
@Tundric_Schwolf
@Tundric_Schwolf Год назад
What a masterfully well done video. The rest of the fgc would kill to have such detailed, well written and edited content ❤
@truemanmassat5919
@truemanmassat5919 Год назад
This editing is insane
@graemebloodworth8991
@graemebloodworth8991 Год назад
When I clicked, I thought it was going to be a breakdown of that last parry on Mang0 that lead to the jab reset up air string, but MAN, I loved everymoment of this video. I'm a relatively new melee fan, and I am absolutely enamored with this kind of vid. especially when its about aMSa lol.
@timma_j
@timma_j Год назад
This video is so well produced! I love the editing! Are you doing all this by yourself? Edit: just seen in description Kao is editing, still you guys are on fire, great work
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
Yep, they’ve been taking the last few Frame Data videos and they’re killing it!
@CYellowan
@CYellowan Год назад
There is just one aspect that people don't know about. The input queue. This aspect interract extremely well at times with Yoshi, thankfully. Because it is extremely specific to certain move inputs OR jump. The crucial part was that aMSa knew it would work here, thus. But it is a bit more repeatable than what it seems like due to timing the inputs well. Taking nothing away from amsa ofcourse! But once more, Yoshi is better than people think!
@beszt95
@beszt95 Год назад
I was wondering why this topic seemed so familiar, I had seen the Melee Moments video about it. Really cool to give it some context within the rest of the match though and some further breakdown, good stuff Walt!
@saintvong
@saintvong Год назад
This is the level of concise editing and analysis that will help so many people see why melee is so deep. Amazing work Walt 🤩
@Quoise_
@Quoise_ Год назад
The double head nod is so cute
@Metroyeti17
@Metroyeti17 Год назад
Bro your editing has only continued to improve when I thought you had already reached the top two years ago. Love your content, hoping you get a juicy sponsor this year
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
And I remember your comments from those years ago too! Thank you so much for sticking around 😊
@thomasstanhouse6224
@thomasstanhouse6224 Год назад
Great editing
@oldenoughtowatchify
@oldenoughtowatchify Год назад
PHRASER DUB BABY MELEE MOMENTS BEST NEW CHANNEL IN SMASH
@miasma1718
@miasma1718 Год назад
great vid! i barely have an entry-level understanding of this game so these vids are super interesting
@linkshadow2
@linkshadow2 Год назад
I thought this would be a M2K vid based on the name 😂 great work!!!
@prizm9515
@prizm9515 Год назад
I feel like knowing that uptilt was the best option was more impressive than hitting the one frame window.
@shoobo3548
@shoobo3548 Год назад
very well edited! loving the video
@flashburn117
@flashburn117 Год назад
3:30 so that's why I was asked for the .slp for this game lol.
@quiet_lurker9573
@quiet_lurker9573 Год назад
Super stoked to see MeleeMoments getting some spotlight. Great vid TDFW!
@nintendude073
@nintendude073 Год назад
The moment that truly defined the big house 10 was the last 10 seconds of grand finals. On fd in the last stocks. Amsa paries the firefox and starts a combo and wins. If amsa has not paried it fire fox would have put the yoshi % too high and combod into fox upair and mango resets.
@maxalaintwo3578
@maxalaintwo3578 Год назад
5:46 wild editing
@TheOftenElusive
@TheOftenElusive Год назад
Wish I can give more likes. I'm not in competitive, but I understand this so clearly from the vids, keep up the great work 🔥
@skatan4727
@skatan4727 Год назад
Great analysis. aMSa is an absolute demon
@identity5481
@identity5481 Год назад
most underrated channel on youtube
@diddliewinks3486
@diddliewinks3486 Год назад
i call this the era of premium melee content.
@lobanaoz7863
@lobanaoz7863 Год назад
Melee moments x Tdfw lessgooooooo
@smackssbm1256
@smackssbm1256 Год назад
Thanks for crediting me. Glad that wall of text was useful to you.
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
Thanks for writing it! It helped a lot!
@plasticbudgie
@plasticbudgie Год назад
8:00 Controller smash is always my favorite tech
@brimmed
@brimmed 8 месяцев назад
At this point I've prob seen Amsa win TBH10 in like 10 different videos and each time it makes me tear up
@Eiji475
@Eiji475 Год назад
Amsa is truly incredible. When he said he was gonna level up when he moved to NA he wasn't fucking joking.
@chillarttalks
@chillarttalks Год назад
absolutely nasty procution GJ! looking forward to more
@EvilApple567
@EvilApple567 Год назад
Crazy effort and edits
@gregoryrothemich6844
@gregoryrothemich6844 Год назад
My favorite series on this platform easily
@bluediemond2089
@bluediemond2089 Год назад
I loved this so much, as an ult player this is the kind of content that makes me want to pick up melee
@LastxRose
@LastxRose Год назад
The most technical fighting game ever made. there is no other
@playerdreamer181
@playerdreamer181 Год назад
DUDE I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING ELSE, THEN THE "did you miss it?" GOD I GOT SO HYPED UP
@passtheyaoi
@passtheyaoi Год назад
i remember when the first melee moment video was posted to twitter and amsa explicitly said he didn't know uptilt was a just frame in that scenario in the replies
@InauguralGecko2
@InauguralGecko2 Год назад
Incredible to see the yoshi break down of amsa's incredible run and execution. Definitely a wake up call for the melee community that the game isn't just about knowing top tier matchups, especially with a character as wonky as yoshi. You can see it in commentators watching amsa that are at a loss of words over most of the yoshi tech that amsa has mastered: melee always has more under its skin
@fireemblemaddict128
@fireemblemaddict128 Год назад
Yoshi is such an anime character. Is clearly not the most gifted character, but has some hidden jutsu that lets him turn the fight instantly
@coolguyfry293
@coolguyfry293 Год назад
Great play by play for frame by frame decisions.
@CyberXD
@CyberXD Год назад
This game is crazy lmao
@bobveltman
@bobveltman Год назад
how well done is this video
@drinkmug
@drinkmug Год назад
its burnt
@CloutFPS
@CloutFPS Год назад
BIG COLLAB HUGE W LOVE U BOTH
@heepy1
@heepy1 Год назад
kaiji reference :0
@drinkmug
@drinkmug Год назад
zawa zawa
@MageKirby
@MageKirby Год назад
wait so is the uptilt 2 frame perfect inputs? One for the tech and one for the uptilt?
@lakessbm
@lakessbm Год назад
Kreygasm for frame data
@kidcolliermc
@kidcolliermc Год назад
sick video through and through
@chaoss6
@chaoss6 Год назад
That was gold content
@DixonYamouf
@DixonYamouf Год назад
amazing vid, common banger
@TheOofaloofa
@TheOofaloofa 9 месяцев назад
Crazy how aMSa would have to kill a god in order to make history… with Melee’s most ambiguous, middle-man amphibian.
@AspectCave
@AspectCave Год назад
the collab we didn't know we needed
@KirbyGroves
@KirbyGroves Год назад
incredibly well done video
@igerd4424
@igerd4424 Год назад
The commentator we need
@momo_11o9
@momo_11o9 Год назад
i fuckin love melee man
@inediblemangoes7797
@inediblemangoes7797 Год назад
I love the alternate universe yoshis
@justanothermanontheinternet
Definitely check out MeleeMoments if you liek this type of content. His stuff is really good. Glad walt gave him a bit of limelight.
@donovan2518
@donovan2518 Год назад
love it walt but would it not be "first ever solo yoshi main"?
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
What
@MATTierial
@MATTierial Год назад
aMSa is so impressive!
@redwarrior118
@redwarrior118 Год назад
Would have been cooler if the music from the original Melee Moments vid was added during his section, woulda had a "new challenger incoming" feel imo, feels empty without it. If it's about copyright then it's cool 🤙
@vick7848
@vick7848 Год назад
Thats my goat :') great vid
@ivandeutsch1209
@ivandeutsch1209 Год назад
amazing vid
@cIiffe
@cIiffe Год назад
you’re the best melee content creator the game has ever seen. extremely grateful for you man.
@simanolastname2399
@simanolastname2399 Год назад
Along with AsumSaus, of course.
@goldsage4722
@goldsage4722 Год назад
​@@simanolastname2399 asumsaus is the true goat
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
Appreciate that a lot, thank you so much 🥹
@NeonMyloXyloto
@NeonMyloXyloto Год назад
Amsa has the best popoff in melee XD
@Oogs777
@Oogs777 Год назад
holy shit amsa
@djspflytnt
@djspflytnt Год назад
A bit of an unfortunate coincidence that you and Phraser both had the same idea, but just goes to show how special this moment was
@dunK1x
@dunK1x Год назад
Amsa the goat fr
@huskySSBM
@huskySSBM Год назад
where did you find the .slp files for the tournament? the only 2022 tournament the slippi website has the files for is shine
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
I got them from the TOs
@huskySSBM
@huskySSBM Год назад
@@turndownforwalt damn, wish they were public
@NeonMyloXyloto
@NeonMyloXyloto Год назад
Hey did I play you on unranked a few days ago? Person with your tag was playing Mario
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
Probably was me!
@samsr2887
@samsr2887 Год назад
See you soonsay
@yung6455
@yung6455 Год назад
what's the intro song
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
Darude sandstorm
@anhan7316
@anhan7316 Год назад
What are the 4 parts of double jump armor?? Can anyone explain lol
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
The thread is linked in the description now!
@smackssbm1256
@smackssbm1256 Год назад
To put it very succinctly, since Yoshi's armour 'ignores' anything below 120 kb, you can tank most moves at low-mid % and keep DJing, or counterhit. That's the first stage. When a move just barely breaks armour (say 125 knockback), Yoshi takes so little knockback (5 here) that for a short while he can still counterhit almost immediately. Past a certain point, he starts taking more kb and won't be able to counterhit, and is at risk of another move comboing. Defensive options are usually better here (sdi, fastfall, airdodge, ...). Anything beyond 200kb sends Yoshi into tumble, counterhitting is 100 % impossible, Yoshi is sweating. Those are the four stages that apply to most moves. Some set kb moves never break armour so you're stuck in stage 1. Others break armour at 0% so go straight to stage 2. That's the general dynamic, and why I call it 'the four stages of Yoshi armour'. It's also why knowing the % where armour reaches different thresholds is important as or vs Yoshi. % matter perhaps more so than in most matchups, even at high-level where punish game is so strong that % isn't as big a deal in a way.
@anhan7316
@anhan7316 Год назад
Thanks!
@IKEA_SSB
@IKEA_SSB Год назад
THERES SLIPPI FILES FOR BIG HOUSE???
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt Год назад
@hounvs
@hounvs Год назад
You specifically mentioned his depth of knowledge but aMSa said in Twitter that he didn't know it was 1 frame lol Obviously he knows a ton, as shown in the other clips. I just thought it was funny.
@Femi9robin
@Femi9robin Год назад
what is the song in the opening?
@monkeymatt8797
@monkeymatt8797 Год назад
Pog
@yogurtclosetok
@yogurtclosetok Год назад
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