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Yep oil never wears out it just gets dirty. These long drain intervals save you money in the short run but you will pay for it if you keep your car for a long time.
Sloopy potting/glue jobs, in a premium filter one would hope for better. Probably didn't hurt anything though. If I was interested in running an Amsoil filter, just buy a Champ Labs made Fram Endurance FE off the WM shelf for $13. Same filters. Thanks for vid.
For the price of the Amsoil filter I'd just change the filter twice as often with a different brand. That sludge just tells me it's not a good oil change interval to go that long.
Those 2 filters show WHY oil should be changed every 5k and/or 6 months, when using synthetic oil; IF you use straight mineral oil, then go to the 3k/4-month oil change schedule!
Every 6 months? Oil don't go bad sitting in the pan. It takes heat to break it down. Takes heat & fuel to make it acidic. Heat being the key catalyst. Once a year is fine. Or every 5 years, in the case of my F-150. Oil isn't going bad sitting in the garage most of the year.
Good job, Pete! I don't think these filters are worth the money they charge They look like they have good media, but I do not like the bypass valve inside the leaf spring. Too much chance for leakage. The media did do its job and looks well made but I think I will stick to my Boss filters.
For better or worse there were no metallic particles sparkling around on either of those filters. Just a bit of carbon/sludge. Interesting video and comments.
As far as I'm concerned, so much for long oil change intervals. I would rather go with a less expensive oil and change my oil more often. I'm not against Amsoil, but the long oil change intervals to me are just not worth it. It does appear to me that there are a number of good quality filters on the market. This channel has some great information. Good Job.
Thank You! They are Basically the same as a Fram Endurance oil filter. Check out this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eIy_5SbvJWo.html
Great video Pete. Chuck is a dope for going that long on intetvals. Not to mention paying 2x for the oil and filter. Better off using MOBIL 1 every year/6k plus PRBoss is a better filter.
I didn’t see any sparklie metal shavings in that filter media. Did you? The purpose of the filter is to trap dirt and sludge. It looked to me as if it served its purpose.
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k The filter looks like it’s blocked with crap and the oil looks like syrup. Check out The Car Care Nut, who is a master Toyota technician, for his views on 10K oil change intervals.
The left over sludge was caught by second filter? Poor engine! So sad! Lol mine have 0 sludge with over 200,000 miles. 3000 0ne year max per oil change and new filter!
😊If he always used amsoil that is not ok for 16k for Signature Series. If its the first use with filter 1 than I imagine it the high detergence function cleaning out old sludge/varnish buildup explaining the colour change of filter 2
The owner should use Mobil 1 Extended Protection or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and change their oil every 5K miles. I know Amsoil Signature is expensive and supposed to last a long time. but 15K miles is too long of an oil change interval. It's not a matter of oil breakdown, but also a mater of engine and oil cleanliness. As you proved in a prior video, those Amsoil filters are made by Fram, and the minor differences were just differences between one production run and another.
Filter #1 looks like rusting and my guess is because it was on the truck for far longer than they are rated for use. That is the result of condensation from being on the truck for over 2 years when Amsoil recommends only 25K miles or 1 year whichever comes first. Don't blame the filter folks blame the owner.
You need to do a side by side comparison with a filter that went 20,000 miles on one truck and another truck with the same powertrain that did 5,000 miles changed the same day. A filter that has been sitting for years will obviously look worse because the used contaminated oil was exposed to oxygen and moisture and will go acidic. Of course it’s going to look sludged compared to a recent filter. Please do another legitimate test with the miles stated above changed the same day or close to.
amsoil had donaldson make the filters for them before with the premium filter that donaldson offers which is the best filtration media but have since changed to fram as the contractor for the filters and they are using the fram top filtration media that is offered.
@@WhipCityWrencher Champion, Luber-Finer and Fram are all owned by First Brands these days. First Brands was formerly know as Trico (the wiper blade company) but is a multi-national corporation that produces for both aftermarket and OEM. You will notice cross pollination of the brands when comparing base plates, center tubes and by-pass valves. Many of Amsoils filters are made by Fram but with production facilities all over the world, and First Brands being the parent company of the filter manufacturers, it's possible to get them from a multitude of facilities. My last batch of Amsoil filters were made at the Fram facility in Greenville, Ohio.
The worst oil/filter I ever seen in my life was a Buick that went by the oil life monitor...that hit 0%....at exactly a year....with 950 miles on it. When I was driving 50,000 miles a year I changed every 20k and at 200k and everything else made the vehicle a good around towner for some kid, not someone driving 500 miles a day for work, they never burned oil.
He might want to try full synthetic Motorcraft oil if he's going to exceed the factory recommended 7500 mile oil change. Motorcraft synthetic appears to be superior to Amsoil & Mobil 1.
filter #1 media is clearly taller by 30 thousandths. not sure why you said they're the same. amsoil filters are nothing special, just a rebranded filter from one of the big manufacturers.
They are the same, oil filters are not made with exact measurements. If I moved the caliper to the other side, I would have probably gotten the same measurements. That's close enough for me. Amsoil oil, filters are made by Champ Labs.
Okay, I KNOW I'm going to "ruffle some feathers," but I am anti-Amsoil. And don't mean to insult my distant neighbor from PA (I'm from Westmoreland Co). That's TOO nice of a truck to maintain it like Amsoil WANTS u to do. I have 21,000 miles on my Prius, FAITHFULLY change it 6mos/5,000 miles whether it needs it or not & Im a senior who gets under my car in my driveway. Im due to change it in May. My oil is STILL clean. Has 0 SLUDGE. You are shortening the life of your ICE. Why do Amsoil videos use CLEANERS??? If u change it enough, u don't NEED additives. Amsoil products & their philosophy are for "FLEET" services ONLY. U know, companies who use vehicles excessive for daily use & want to keep maintenance costs down. I'm wasting money? I GUARANTEE I will have no major engine repairs & for the price of new vehicles, it's not worth the risk for me. Buy a used one? Would I REALLY buy a vehicle maintained like Amsoil preaches?🤔 Thank goodness for Pete for showing us his analysis & guides us to good decisions.
Amsoil rip-off bases on manufacturer and overly miles of service intervals. That's not the case for an outanding oil brand but not for a filter deaign. This fiter besed on your discoveries appears to be made by regular wix filter o fram. Not my cup of tea.Mobil1 or K&N is even way better. Amsoil should only be focusing on great oil production only not a filter or veraities of automotive items. "Peaches are peaches and Apples are apples."
That 16k filter is horrible ! Yikes !! And $15 a grt engine oil with a $19 filter ? all that truck needs is a fram ultra or XP with supertech 10,000 mile synthetic which meets ILSAC GF 6 every 5 or 6k and it will be just fine ! One word "SCAMSOIL" 😵
If changing every 5K miles, there will be no improvement in engine longevity with Amsoil, compared to any of the top synthetics. Case in point: the cab that just took us to the airport was a Toyota Sienna with 425K miles on it. The owner used OEM filters and Supertech synthetic oil for every oil change.
