I hope they will bring a full frame camera and some really good lens, small and crystal clear. I am thinking for this as a street photo camera… hope is the focus 😊
You simply have to love sigma for constantly putting out concept products into the market: both the quattro and the fp series were amazingly creative. I ended up with nikon for practicality reasons, but these weird bois have a special place in my heart
I’ve had an sd Quattro for 4 years. I’ll keep it until it craps out, and then try to find another one. I love the clunky old thing, purely because it makes me work for the shot, and when it works too, the results are just magic.
Happily shooting ISO640 and 800 on these. Chromatic noise can be alleviated via detailed post options in Sigma's software. 'ISO100 only' is a common misconception with this line of Foveon sensors.
These are pretty awesome. I have one of the original DP2's, and also had a DP2 Quattro come across my work desk about a week ago. I think the best way to think about them is as if they're medium format. Similarly slow, but also produces quite the unique image, just as a medium format camera would!
I have the dp0 Quattro and learned to treat it as a specialty camera. I mostly use it for landscapes and it just absolutely shines. It’s my digital XPan / digital 6:7 medium format camera for a fraction of the cost. A killer camera but not an “everyday carry” camera. I wouldn’t mind if they release a new APSC version. I don’t need it to be full frame. I just want a Foveon body that can take L mount lenses.
I have an SD Quattro. It has the same limitations as the DP3 Quattro but I can swap out lenses. Using fast high quality lenses is an absolute must. It's a challenge to shoot with but when it hits, it hits.
Fast lenses = shallow depth of field = waste of a Foveon sensor that allows to show insane amounts of detail IF you have details in depth of field. I recommend shooting all Foveon cameras on a tripod, set them to ISO 100, cable release with long exposure times and closing down to maximize for depth of field.
I've had three of them, the various focal lengths. They can't handle much contrast, but where I live we have very flat lighting, so it worked out okay. But, yeah, I agree with you on all points, slow, sharp, interesting color, but so hard to work with I got tired of it. Also, tiny batteries that go flat quickly.
Imagine it like a film camera with 100 speed film and then compared to that you don’t have to buy, process, and scan the film, it just gives you the file!
I got an SD Quattro H last summer, it's such an incredible camera. Very specialized, not versatile for one bit. But when it hits, oh boy does it hit.# (If you're curious, it's basically an APS-H version of the same sensor inside your DP3, but with an SA mount in front of it (yes, the removable hot filter is still there. This is the best camera for IR photography as you can put the filter back in in seconds and it's a mirrorless camera so you see through the EVF what you're shooting with a full spectrum + IR filter setup !)
I just checked prices and compared them with the ones from a few weeks (because of another video about it) and they sky rocketed like I've never seen before.
I have a friend who is obsessed with the sigma dp line of cameras. They all had the same issues mentioned in the shorts. Frankly, I think the image quality alone is not enough to make up for all the other issues. Also the battery performance of these cameras ate horrible. I guess this is fine if you really love that specific sensor. But dont expect anything more than shooting landscapes or anything that is still. I heard some use this to do product shoot as well.
The reason why the ISO is so low is due to the unique sensor structure. It has no Bayer filter. Instead the R, G and B sites are stacked vertically, very much like film. The problem though is that the bottom layer now actually receives very little light.
The cause of noise is NOT a lack of light, but electronic noise. Imagine a perfect sensor. Dark areas will be perfectly dark, because of course they are. Why noisr then? ERRORS in the analog first stages. (yes there are some smaller sources of noise) If you added a lot of shielding (lead plates), and used gold wires to move processing outside of the sensor area, ie if you made it look like a mad scientist project like a quantum computer, you could get extremely clean darks ie good high iso performance.
As user from EOS 5D I'm perfectly accostumed to take my time with slow processors... So it looks delightful. (it's shape resembles to a 6x9cm mamiya film charger)
You would've lost that bet 😜 I always wanted a DP0, but the prices were almost always outrageous, and when it was cheap (a brief window many years ago) I didn't have the funds ☹️
Ergonomically sound as a horse, I remember you could.also get odd colour shifts with them it's like they work amazing in this perimeter if everything is perfect. Though would be cool if they made an L mount version
I loved that camera and the older one.... they should release that same camera with new technology and new write speeds. Those write speeds were so bad because of how big the files were.
Is it something that’s intended to be more for studio photography/highly controlled environments? I know a lot of the large format cameras that do 100+ megapixel photos are often used for studio stuff because of their slow processing speeds and other limitations. This sounds similar even though it’s a lot more compact and looks like something mean to be a lot more “run and gun” than trapped in a studio. Hopefully that make improvements for future models, that’s a really cool camera
Not a big fan of fixed prime lenses cameras. The DP series is nice, and the sensor are awesome, but I would rather put my money in the SD Quattro cameras. Had a SDQ-H for a little while, and it's a litteral beast. too bad they are quite pricey and rare now
The SDQ is a beast until you want to shoot red/orange/yellow, or unless you want a pocket cam for the day. This is why I've kept the DP3Q and DP3M. The SDQ is definitely the best designed camera I've ever used though, what a tank!
@@jordylaforge3522 Honestly, the SDQ, or any Foveon cameras in general, CAN'T be used as primary cameras for (almost) anybody. They are cumbersome, generally require a tripod to shoot, have limited dynamic range even compared to 15 year old APS-C DSLRs. BUT. As a side camera to use when you want to slow down, have absolutely gorgeous colors and pretty much unmatched image quality until you reach medium format (albeit with a sharp lens) : those cameras are unbeatable. The best second camera you can wish for imho. Your second system should give you something different otherwise it's just more of the same. (also, the SDQ can remove the hot filter just like the SD1/SD14/SD15 except it's a mirroless, not a DSLR ! do for IR photography it's the best camera out there as you don't have to permanently alter the sensor to do a full spectrum conversion !)
I'm a big fan of the Sigma FP and have wanted to check out the Quattros mainly out of pure curiosity. But I'm kind of wary now if you are saying that they can't take reliably good photos when ISO is over 100, which is kind of ridiculous... Anyone else think otherwise?
It's almost like they should work with Sony on building the perfect camera. The Sigma's images look better than Sony's but Sony's cameras work better than Sigma's
Biggest mistake was buying a Sigma Quattro H. I took care of the camera, no tomfoolery, and the sensor is fried, probably overheated. Now, I have a metal brick with a 21mm ultra wide equivalent lens collecting dust. 😢😭
