An Easy Guide To Ampless Guitar Rigs - Do You Really Need An Amp Anymore?

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In this video Dagan shows us how you can have a completely amplifier free guitar rig in this guide to ampless guitar rigs.
We find out how to set up an ampless guitar rig, the benefits of an ampless guitar rig and the best preamp pedals or 'amps in a box'.
We also get to see the difference between an anologue ampless guitar rig and a digital ampless electric guitar rig using the likes of the Line 6 Helix or Boss GT-1000.
2:07 How to set up an ampless guitar rig - basically a quick analogue ampless guitar rig guide
5:10 Ashdown Newt Review - and how to use it instead of an amplifier. We also get to hear how pedals sound when you use them with the Ashdown Newt.
10:44 - how to set up an ampless guitar rig with digital modeling pedals. We also find out how you can use an ampless guitar rig and set up an ampless pedal board, but still use it with a cabinet!
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@Riffman42 4 года назад

Another reason for going without the amps is that it really helps control the stage volume. Volume wars on stage are a nightmare.

@patrickdaly5988 4 года назад

Hadn’t played guitar since I was teen in the late 90s. Bought a guitar during this whole pandemic and I’m kinda lost as to how much things have moved on. This helps a lot.

@Djarra 4 года назад

Paul Landers of Rammstein played two of the largest venues in the world (Olympic Stadiums of Berlin and Moscow) last summer with just his signature Sansamp fly rig going straight into the board. Interestingly according to Tech21 his PL1 model is really popular with country players for its crisp clean sounds.

@CatastrophicG 4 года назад

Right on! These days you don't necessarily need full rig anymore to sound massive i noticed out of experience. All depends on taste, pref and budget, right?

@utubedestroysmytime 3 года назад

Rush started it first. Geddy lee ditched amps in the 90s

@Djarra 3 года назад

@@utubedestroysmytime Replacing them with washing machines.

@WolfPackM98c 3 года назад

It’s interesting that so many people are so opinionated against using modelers and a straight recording setup. I for one embrace all the new tech available. As a young player with a low budget, it sucked having to scrimp and save to buy a half decent amp setup and be limited to whatever tone you could get from that and your collection of pedals. Then lugging all that gear to practice or gigs. And if you ever wanted to record it required a whole other subset of gear that was also very costly for the average consumer back then. In the amp days, your budget decided a lot in your progress as a musician. With all the free tools, learning and equipment out today people can learn and develop their sound without being restricted by whether they could afford a huge collection of gear or not.

@martinclayton7260 4 года назад

I went into a recording studio last December, and ran one lead into my Mesa Boogie, and another lead into a Line 6 pod, which then ran two leads out of that, so it was like recording three guitars at once! It sounded amazing!

@martyshwaartz971 Год назад

That sounds wicked!

@burningkarma 3 года назад

I never got along with amps or amps never got along with me. I’ve always found the tone I like by going direct. Love the tech 21 stuff.

@JesusChrist-xn7qt 4 года назад

this is very cool and swag

@jeenkroes9116 4 года назад

Thanks Jesus

@christophelemieux7117 4 года назад

Amen

@firemarshal2629 4 года назад

Jesus would never use the word swag. Bye satan!

@blistersangular8270 3 года назад

I like it....

@user-qr7ee2cp4y 4 года назад

Got back from Nashville just as covid was hitting. Every every guitarist was playing a tele and was amazed how many kempers I saw. The studio band at the opry had 2 of them.

@JoshuaMRichard 6 месяцев назад

Thank you Dagan this is extremely helpful. 🤘

@mixodorians12 4 года назад

I use a Mooer Preamp Live with a Line 6 HX FX into a FRFR Speaker (Harley Benton 1x12). The sounds are awesome, I can get all the classic super expensive, Marshall Plexi chewy sounds, plus I can really sculpture a sound and know that what I get out of the headphones is what comes out of the speaker. The Harley Benton speaker even has it's own inbuilt IRs so I don't need the Mooer Preamp, and can just use the HXFX straight in. I used this rig yesterday in a gig and was super pleased. With the Mooer Preanp Live , it is basically a little Kemper so I can even tone capture and download preamps. Everyone should have a digital rig. Modern technology is great. It isn't 2010 anymore, so embrace it, though to be fair, I was quite happy with the Beringher VAMP2 for ages and before then too and got some killer tones out of this rig, longbefore digital modelling was popular. The Vamp2 even now sounds pretty decent through the FRFR speaker. What I learned over the years is it doesn't take much to get a good sound.

@mikelynchrockfordmusic4823 2 года назад

Outstanding presentation!

@MauricioGarcia-mk5bz 4 года назад

Awesome video buddy. Ty.

@SFV4 4 года назад

For those willing tubes with a Helix, check the Synergy stuff... You can place a SYN-2 in one of the Helix loops...

@michaelmattson3515 3 года назад

I used to have a Sunn Concert Lead 200 watts with a 6x12 cab. Loved it. I was in Jr High. My ma could hear me 2 blocks away at the bus stop. And I was in the basement.

@Sam-sdh 4 года назад

I've ran my guitar through Ableton for the last 1-2 years before getting and amp and it's been awesome, can get a lot of awesome sounds out of it, but i just picked up a Laney cub 10 and i am so stoked! But now i'm constantly looking at buying pedals which i knew was going to happen...

@johnconnor6706 3 года назад

I have had a Tech 21 Fly Rig 5 for awhile now. Nice piece of kit and it's analog. I pair it with a Tech 21 Power Engine 60 for practice, but I can go direct to board with it...or use the PE as a monitor along with direct. I just recently got a Mooer 005 micro amp pedal along with their Baby Bomb 30 micro power amp. I run the 005 into the PE60, but the Baby Bomb allows me to go into an old-school cabinet if I want. That 005 pedal sounds amazing. That said...you still need effects pedals, connector cables, power supplies, and that PE60 is heavy and I don't want to carry it anymore LOL. So I'm looking to get at the very least a Headrush FRFR-108, but I want to get the new Line 6 POD Go for the ultimate in versatility and portability.

@lastdaysguitar Год назад

I've been using the Strymon Big Sky HW with speaker simulate and then post processing as needed with various amp sims in my DAW, seems to work well most of the time - but sometimes only an amp has the secret sauce (at least for now). REALLY looking forward to Strymon coming out with a more sophisticated Amp sim than the Iridium, maybe with larger Big Sky enclosure - the Iridium has many good settings but I do think there is still room for realism improvement.

@irishjackass 4 года назад

Love the Kramer dagen

@rileybeaire6840 3 года назад

I ran a pedalboard with a crate power block 150 watt solid state (very small) head, a vox stomplab g2, wireless receiver and pedal power. Then ran to my orange 2x12, marshall 4x12, or if it was a nice venue straight into the pa. Did a lot of regional and national runs with that rig and I'm glad this topic is being brought up. Turned a lotta heads with that setup. Nothing special but great budget tone that lasted years and made tight backlines and fast change overs much easier. Also YOUR DRUMMER DOESN'T WANNA HELP YOU CARRY BOTH OF YOUR 4X12s.

@stefanhansen5882 3 года назад

This was great! I am getting back to guitar and want to go straight from pedalboard to mixer/PA. I do not need a power amp, since I do not want to go to a speaker cabinet. Is there one or two pedals which would be good for this? Thanks!

@ggoodwin401 11 месяцев назад

So I have a valeton tar20 that I use on my pedalboard and I typically just run a speaker cable to the cab. What I'm wondering is if, to keep from running another cable, I could use a wireless system or a Bluetooth transmitter from my line out to the mixing board.

@michaelmattson3515 3 года назад

John McLaughlin stopped using amps many years ago. He’s been using a Seymour Duncan foot pedal Powerstage 170 amp.

@nataroonytrontime3976 4 года назад

Would it be possible to run a coulor box pre amp into the main input of any amp or would I have to run it into the power amp section on the amp itself? I kinda want it to work in the front so I can have two eqs

@davidbarlow431 4 года назад

Telecaster, lead, Vox AC30 = tonal bliss and a bad back but its worth it. I'm sure Dagan was making videos at home recently during lock down - with his Marshall stack in the background..... 😂

@dchanging Год назад

This Dagan guy is amazing and obviously needs no editing, never stops pushing out interesting content. A bit of Russell Brand in there eh?

@pauloscabeni5277 4 года назад

Great video, but I think most cab simulators won't handle a power amp output. The cab simulator should come before the power amp, shouldn't it?

@steveschenker1380 3 года назад

If my preamp pedals have cab sim, can I run them into a power amp and still have the sim work? The power amp wont mess it up? I have the Joyo sound pedals, and just want to run them into a power amp, into a PA/keys amp. Will that work ok?

@MovezLikeDagger 2 года назад

What would be the best to swap between playing guitar through a gt 1000 and doing vocals through? Cab or PA? What would be some good recommendations? Only one I've been told so far is the Line 6 212. Is there anything better than that?

@ethandellinger8993 Месяц назад

This is exactly what I needed. I played in high school pretty well and even taveled playing shows but life happened and I had to work and 15 years later I’m wanting to pick guitar back up and nothing is the same haha. I have no idea what musicians are doing these days. I was about to buy a half stack and head just to dabble hahaha.

@Vortecdude 4 года назад

i got the two notes le clean , It is labeled as preamp but it acts as a power amp by your definition? Can i go to a cab sim next or do i need a power amp pedal too?

@slipbiz2483 2 года назад

do you run a speaker wire from a power amp to a cabinet ? But if I were to plug the power amp into a cab sim I'd use a instrument cable?

@louaguado995 4 года назад

I'd rather use a low wattage tube head with a 212 cabinet. Then put a microphone in front of it 😁 But I did have an amp blow out after 3 songs on a 12 song set at a huge outdoor festival. I ended up grabbing my digitech rp pedal, turned on the amp and cab simulators, plugged it into the p.a. and finished the gig. It actually sounded pretty good out of their massive system! That pedal saved the show that day

@frivovovovolhlhlh 2 года назад

I have a Zoom g2.1u, can I connect it to a FRFR Speaker since my amp is damaged?

@alfianbanjaransari4096 4 года назад

Can I plug my modeller into say, a monitor/wedge type speaker? Will it sound good/horrible? Usually I plug my preamp/od/modeller multi fx into a Nux Solid Studio to fatten it up & get it to sound full. I then plug it into desktop speakers. It sounds good in the room but it's can't get any louder. I need to plug it into somehing that'll be loud enough. Any suggestions?

@noesunyoutuber7680 3 года назад

If you have a cab sim, any flat response speaker will be fine. The only issue is if you don't have a cab sim to cut all the unpleasant high highs and low lows.

@wayj6185 10 месяцев назад

Insight, finally!

@baileyron682 4 года назад

How are these things any different than the original Tech 21 Sansamp?

@JessyXeye 2 года назад

So... With the Newt I wouldn't need a cab-sim even if i go DI?

@RhythmGuitarMan 10 месяцев назад

Good vid. Don’t connect the EH 5mm amp pedal to another amplifier or mixer though.. The output from the 5mm will damage other devices.

@aaronwilliams7988 4 года назад

Vox has a pretty nice amp/effects emulator. It’s called the Vox stomplab IIg

@robersniper Год назад

How would you power a cabinet/speaker without an amp?

@godzilla964 7 месяцев назад

I love my iPad with bias fx 2. 😊

@rev.jeremyhall 3 года назад

I think im confused about terms: if you are using a "power amp pedal" isn't it creating a powered signal that should go to a passive cab, and never a sound board or snake?

@richardshirley8408 2 года назад

I was thinking the same thing. If you're using a power amp pedal you might as well just use an amp. I would think it would add more unwanted sound and would in turn you'd have to get a noise gate on there as well to counter act the power amp pedal.

@spencerludman3915 7 месяцев назад

This video is so necessary since for, some reason, we have to use a different word that isn’t needed to call everything in the guitar world.

@bugsycline3798 2 года назад

my question is pertaining to a "Live Pa Direct" situation... Why would you need a "Power amp" if you were running straight to FOH? you'd be sending them a powered signal and you could blow up their board... I think the "Lingo" for this digital revolution is causing some communication issues. I'm trying to figure out what I need to use my pedal board with out an amp, live, plugged direct into pa without an amp on stage... what tools would I need to add to my board to make it happen?

@darwinsaye 2 года назад

Preamp pedal would go into a power amp pedal if you were going into a passive speaker cabinet on stage. If you are going DI into the PA board, you could skip the power amp pedal.

@ashjamben 4 года назад

I’m no expert, but that signal chain doesn’t make sense. Shouldn’t it be pre amp into a cab simulator (then into front of house) or pre amp into a power amp into an actually speaker cab?

@caseystrange1532 4 года назад

I love dagan and I’m only 24 but I’m a classic guy. I need my classic and amp and pedals. Don’t fix what ain’t broke 🤘🏻

@SorchyMusic 4 года назад

Until the thing that breaks is your back :P I prefer amps (My Rockerverb 100 MKIII personally) and pedals but I'm also lazy.

@mrscary113 2 года назад

What did he say at 4:08?

@sebastianschmidt6136 2 года назад

But what if I want to make a show in my backyard or in a bar that doesn't have a P.A?

@JoshyyJay 3 года назад

Just but a Hughes and kettner grand meister 40! Weights 15 pounds use amp or no cab and red box di to house. And bluguitar AMP X is coming out in a few months that is like a 100 watt floor amp like a tube helix

@rockychieng88 4 года назад

If Vox, Fender and Marshall do this like Ashdown.

@johnpower2018 Год назад

I am confused. Is the pedal board connected to a PA? The sound has to come from somewhere.

@kimberlyjacobsen4148 4 года назад

Dagan you so remind me of Russell Brand . Are you twins 🤟🎸😘 and you play guitar like Bill Bailey play piano . You rock . Greeting from Denmark.

@finnbradbury9423 4 года назад

imo use a micro terror sounds massive, budget friendly, and has tubes to satisfy the old school guys paired with a micro dark its awesome

@SorchyMusic 4 года назад

I agree except you need to have a speaker cab because the cab sim out sounds like garbage, and you need to dig the orange sound. I'm torn between getting something like this from orange (Tiny Terror, OR15 etc) and getting the Helix/Kemper so I don't need to carry my Rockerverb MKiii 100 to the small gigs. :)

@salifmohammed8686 4 года назад

ZippyNumber wb using something like torpedo wall of sound or using an Ir loader?

@SorchyMusic 4 года назад

@@salifmohammed8686 Yeah I actually didn't think of that. Another option to add to the list

@salifmohammed8686 4 года назад

ZippyNumber try torpedo wall of sound,there is a sick vintage 30 that comes with it free,thick tone

@finnbradbury9423 4 года назад

@@salifmohammed8686 im not 100 with v30 i dont see the hype

@honeybling5228 4 года назад

I just ordered boss gt1000,do i really need an amp..

@Havanacuba1985 4 года назад

It has IR’ s so I guess not . A guy I follow on here uses an me50 through a Palmer amp emulator and sounds awesome

@jonfs2000 2 года назад

Nail polish adds to your guitar tone?

@spiralfirst6488 3 года назад

I've not used an amp for years. I use lots of effects and never found an amp that didn't colour the sound with it's own character. Straight into the desk. Wallop.

@BillDerBerg 2 года назад

you are still using an amp and speakers

@realIkeaMan 4 года назад

Trippy

@danieltrickey9285 3 года назад

Zoom G1on is all I need. $60. Has everything he said.

@utubedestroysmytime 3 года назад

Don’t get me wrong. This is cool. But I’ve showed up and drowned out a 100 watt line 6 rack mount POD with my little 15watt blues JR

@arkavagoswami3068 4 года назад

Here's my 2cents for ampless smallest rig- 1.1 iphone 2.xsonic xtone pedal Thats all😊

@anthonyvaccari4607 4 года назад

I'm using an irig stomp I/O pedal, I've had it 2 years and cannot get rid of the horrible hissing sound on both amplitube and Bias Fx. Have you got any info on how I can sort this issue. The pedal has a L and R output and earphones. I've been using my peavey vyper 75 in rather of the channels should I get some small monitors for my desk Maybe? I've tried even using powered Logitech 10 watt speakers. I'm stumped and about to sell the damn thing. Any help would be awesome at this point.

@arkavagoswami3068 4 года назад

@@anthonyvaccari4607 see i tried amplitube before but their noise gate is very bad..rather bias fx's noise gate is quite good..put 2 ng .1before ts n 1after ts...n if possible try a gd quality oxygen free cable...i use 19$ cheap speaker in bed room to practice n in live gig i use the balanced xlr out from xtone to foh...i didn't had to change much parameters superb sound n tones..i use iphn 7..i easily get more than 1hr battery back up for live..in my page theres a live gig video i posted chk it out.i used above mentioned things only n thats all..i'll suggest to buy their new upgraded xtone pro model interface.it have 6 footswitches so it'll be easy to change multiple parameters.hope this helps.cheers

@earthsteward9 4 года назад

You need an amp if the venue doesn't have monitors :-)

@Riffman42 4 года назад

In ears :)

@justinTime077 3 года назад

Seems many people are buying monitors now with their digital shitshow rather than amps

@irishjackass 4 года назад

Still just going to be an oldy guitar/ cable/amp

@TheFoxcrusher 3 года назад

I was real game for this. But after the video and going thru the comments. I'm confused and now down on the product.

@blacksabbath9150 3 года назад

Love your nails

@BM5556 2 года назад

this guy be looking like russel brand

@dronai 4 года назад

The problem is the cost of this stuff, is almost more than the real thing. So weekly giging, I could see, because that becomes a Pia carrying all the amps, and cabs.

@mato2677 Год назад

Um, my moddler cost $500 and it emmulates about 5 grand worth of peddles at 1 time. Might wana check those prices again lol

@Laura.Cynthia 8 месяцев назад

Amp simulator plugin is Big Win, I mean look at the cheap price 😅

@JohnLumapaskeith 3 года назад

I'm pro modeling.

@lentrout9858 4 года назад

I've bought many of these type things and they just don't cut it.

@lentrout9858 4 года назад

It's a shame you're such an asshole! I own a professional recording studio with a large tracking room, a locker of premium mics and an assortment of quality presentations and outboard gear. When these plugins and modelers start delivering the same results I'll start using them. As for actual professional musicians! They have learned to settle for convenience.

@haikeloksama2061 4 года назад

holy shit i am fast

@robertbriquet 4 года назад

There is a tag on your guitar.

@Mitch.Engel84 4 года назад

🤦

@joel65203 Год назад

So, a preamp and a power amp is called an amp head. Is he talking about a power amp Sim? If so, that is not a necessary component.

@marshallcarr 3 года назад

This is like the Wish version of Russel Brand

@music-writinglife1813 Год назад

I feel likes its the 80's again......

@tonyharley5230 2 года назад

All completely unnecessary. I've been playing my guitar through a Zoom G1 direct to PA through a standard guitar lead for years. No problem and sounds great. If PA doesn't take a jack, you just go through a DI box to convert to XLR, a cheap passive DI will do. I can and have bought and sold anything I want but I cannot find anything that sounds as good as the G1. Crazy I know. They're like a tenner on ebay! Remember it's in the ears not the gears

@sebastianschmidt6136 2 года назад

But every place you played have a P.A? In my country at least, no :/

@tonyharley5230 2 года назад

@@sebastianschmidt6136 we provide our own PA if the venue doesn't have one.

@sebastianschmidt6136 2 года назад

@@tonyharley5230 great! But isn't more expensive and heavier than an amp?

@hemigod2 3 года назад

I do all of this and more with just a phone .......

@alienlovesecrets9379 4 года назад

The next step in these days will be gigs without even stages and audiences and in 10 years guitar solos without guitars.

@anthonyvaccari4607 4 года назад

Have them now pre recorded gigs on lockdown lol..

@MF-qo4fe 3 года назад

wtf then, play it dry without amp or speaker or anything?

@RobertMossack 4 года назад

Call me old fashioned, but I'll give up my amp when it's pried from my cold, dead hands.

@firemarshal2629 4 года назад

🙌🏻

@shaunduffy3912 4 года назад

Nothing nicer than a cranked tube amp but between the weight, reliability, volume and so on its just way more convenient to carry a modeller in my gigbag or just use an amp like a boss katana if you need the air moving behind you

@CamGottaFro 3 года назад

Heck yeah, brother.

@TheOffcutsBand 2 года назад

I used to feel the same way. I can get pretty close to the sound of my fender twin in a tiny box. Makes set up and tear down worth the tiny compromise

@oscarkoronka456 2 года назад

it's so personal, completely agree for studio things being able to make micing choices rather than presets will always be the one, but getting to and from gigs on the tube in London, my helix stomp has been an incredible stand in. Didn't get as many compliments from sounds people when I was hauling my giant tweed amp around London! :)

@MF-qo4fe 3 года назад

YOU NEED A FUCKING CAB ANYWAY WHY NOT JUST BRING A FUCKING COMBO AMP