An Embarrassing Factory Error... | Fender American Vintage II 1975 Telecaster

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@Trog Год назад

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@Art-zs6sl Год назад

Are you sending this to Philip M by any chance?

@clarkbabin9799 Год назад

There's your quirky feature . The inlays being slightly off center. Well that and the large stratocaster style headstock. Personally I like it. Is that a neck tilt access on back through the bolt on plate. So Fender has figured out how to silence single coils now they need to figure out the cunifies . I like this one but that buzz would drive me crazy. It does have a Telecaster sound but .

@stepvanjoe3469 Год назад

The way the body was made including the wood grain mismatch is a cbs cost of manufacturing savings that was common on originals. For 2100 they should have put on a neck that was drilled right for the inlays that aside help to I.D. It in case of theft

@jamesjeager129 Год назад

I don’t have a fender telecaster that has CuNiFe pickups, but they sound awesome and one of the guitar RU-vidr who has a vintage 1970s telecaster with the pickups. He said the same thing about the wide range hum buckers that has the single coil sound. For me if I ever buy a fender 1970s telecaster or build a parts caster, I would put copper tape on the cavity body before I put the pick ups and the whole pick-gard on imo.

@clarkbabin9799 Год назад

@@jamesjeager129 my American special has the usual pickups and sounds great.

@iesresidential7060 Год назад

With all the issues this one seems to have, it looks like Fender was staying true to 1970’s build and quality control. 🤦‍♂️

@InterstateDrive Год назад

This is the special "CBS true to life" reissue.

@darkflash32 Год назад

That factory error should not be there on a 2000 usd guitar.

@giuseppefabbricatore4314 Год назад

On my American Pro II telecaster the rosewood is cracking on the edges after 6 months… so, the American Fender “factory quality control” needs some IMPORTANT improvement.

@brianvillage5 Год назад

@@giuseppefabbricatore4314 I’d be contacting them they’re guitars are supposed to have a lifetime warranty on stuff like that.

@ScreaminT81 Год назад

No guitar at 2000 or higher shouldn’t have flaws 🤷‍♂️

@Livelaughlimpbizkit Год назад

@@giuseppefabbricatore4314 did they sort it out for you?

@friedrudibega6384 Год назад

Not on a bolt on.

@jusztinnemeti6380 Год назад

Fender started doing poly finishes in the early seventies. So this is authentic with the poly finish.

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

Correct, the poly finish is very much authentic.

@A_Noid Год назад

It’s authentic, bur desirable? I preferred the American Original approach of still having a nitro coat on 70s models.

@gazzy_burns Год назад

Yep. He should know this.

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

@@gazzy_burns Yeah, I agree. I sometimes wish he had a better understanding of both the mechanics as well as construction methods pertaining to guitars. But I get it, not everyone is mechanical in nature. For myself, I'm fascinated with all things mechanical and have a natural curiosity of how things work and how they are built. But that is just me, all individuals have their strong suites. Kind of in the same way, a successful automobile Salesman or Historian doesn't necessarily know how to fix a car or how its built. And many times they don't need that knowledge to be great at what they do.

@panameadeplm Год назад

@@A_Noid people that _want_ a nitro finish on anything will never cease to boggle my mind

@flapjack413 Год назад

The reason that the face of the headstock being more tinted than the rest of the neck is because even after Fender switched to poly finishes, they continuted to spray headstock faces with nitro, because it had better adhesion properties with the decals used on the headstocks. Nitro naturally yellowed more than the poly, so the headstock faces would always end up being more tinted than the rest of the neck.

@SB-mb8fx Год назад

But Nitro doesn´t age that fast. It took some years, and those guitars are factory new. And they glue the Logo to the wood and spray it over. So it has nothing to do with adhesion.

@TREVORJB101 8 месяцев назад

I get what you're saying. Technically, he's correct on nitro being sprayed on the headstock for that reason (even when applied on top of the decal instead of under like in the 50s/60s). Fender tinted the necks and headstocks of the new 50s/60s models as well, instead of spraying clear nitro as done originally and on the previous AV guitars, 2012-2017. I think Fender should have sprayed clear nitro and let them age naturally. Btw the lacquer on the new 70s headstock are tinted poly and not nitro like the originals.

@danieljaymeshansel5086 3 месяца назад

100% accurate, my 1978 Strat has a darker yellow headstock face from the rest of the neck. I get it though, it shouldn’t look like that from the factory it would be bright maple brand new.

@b00neDawg00 Год назад

It’s sad that fender is having QC issues on such a big release but the reason the headstock is more amber than the fretboard is because in the 70s fender would spray nitro on the headstock and it would yellow overtime

@watersnortmoment3734 Год назад

I mean, if you did get a lemon at the very least, it would be authentic to 60s and 70s qc

@dukegfsl Год назад

Joke... Buy a MiM and upgrade.

@yestoES355 Год назад

This is far worse than current Gibson USA production guitars. Really disappointed and for 2K I’d rather save up for a used custom shop model. I’d take any nice squire or Mexican over this series. Falls short over the original line which truly felt like a custom shop model within the USA range. I guess sourcing lighter woods and all is now unique to the custom shop

@ksaathoff63 Год назад

Seems like the Trogster should play these things before ripping them apart, to rule out re-assembly errors if problems are encountered.

@thpass Год назад

Agreed. The buzzing could certainly be a set up issue from reassembly. The height of the neck pickup too with it catching the high -E string like that.

@rexrathtar3893 Год назад

Absolutely. It makes no sense to take it apart, reassemble it, and then whinge about the factory setup. Play it first to judge the way it came from the factory.

@criskatan Год назад

@@rexrathtar3893 Yeah, but, he's never had this problem before. Good advise, though.

@fallenshallrise Год назад

When people review things you can sometimes tell that they have their minds made up already. I mean clearly this thing has issues with the dot inlays but it was funny when he pointed at that huge route that you could fit 50 wires in and called it "a very minimal channel", talked about both too much wood removed and then not enough wood removed, then it's a "shame" that a '75 tribute guitar doesn't have '60s tuning pegs. Then he accidentally broke the ground wire to the bridge by removing the pick guard. We've all done it and the symptoms are unmistakable.

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

If I were working on that Telecaster the first thing I would check is the grounding wire from the pots to the bridge. It has been my experience that you cannot move the pickguard assembly very far from the body due to the short ground wire. The hum/buzz illustrated is very much indicative of a poor ground condition. Just saying, I've caused this condition myself while inspecting a pickguard assembly, the wire pulls loose from the metal contact of the bridge yet remains in the passage hole within the control cavity routes. It appears connected because it has not fully pulled out of the hole/passage, yet in actuality the end has broke free and isn't connected. Like I said, I've had this happen before and the very same buzzing/symptoms presented the same way. I've not made it through the entire video yet, so I'm hoping the amazing story of how the WRHB CuNiFe pickups were designed/developed, the direct connection of these pickups with Gibson is an amazing story.

@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад

Good evening HK.

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

@@sgt.grinch3299 Greetings Sarge.......Stressful afternoon, we had to take our most senior Pug to the Veterinary Clinic, for a while we thought it was going to be his very last car ride with us. Thankfully he is a lot tougher than he would appear to be and was abloe to come home with us. Age, it will eventually catch all of us. 🙏

@stop736 Год назад

Oh thank goodness HK!!! I thought something VERY bad happened when you started that paragraph. I’m so happy your tough guy is home with you even if it’s only for a second longer. And thank you for the comment you posted about the pickups. It does make sense that it could be a grounding wire or something maybe. I don’t know the CuNiFe sound very well though so what do I know really…? Hi Sgt Grinch! I hope you’re doing good also!

@rooster4906 Год назад

@@hkguitar1984 🙏

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

@@stop736 Bless Your Heart Cynthia. Yes, every moment is a gift. Oh, those CuNiFe pickups have a fantastic sound. The CuNiFe pickups are of such historical significance that I will someday own a guitar with them, either real vintage or the modern versions.

@gloifti Год назад

I think Fender stopped the nitro finish at the end of the sixties; so the poly finish is true to the era.

@user-dp8mb5rp9i Год назад

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@jusztinnemeti6380 Год назад

You beat me to it. I think it was 1974 for all models and parts such as the necks.

@paulj0557tonehead Год назад

I clearly remember in 1980 this guitar was called outdated looking, even at five years eras changed more rapidly than now and $400-$450 was high. I saw in the hippie Mother Earth News of all things a woman said she paid $250 for her "tacky sunburst...big ugly square pickups...but _it was_ a Fender ".

@jamesonnewhouse1298 Год назад

@@jusztinnemeti6380 everything was completely poly by 74 I have a 73 strat with only the face have nitro and everything else is poly

@TheDeathHoot Год назад

1:21 trogly zip your zipper.

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

I hate it when that happens................

@samstringfellow590 Год назад

I could be wrong but Im pretty sure the headstock is a bit of a different shade because in the 70's they used a nitro finish on the headstock, due to problems with decals

@nic0vide0 Год назад

Fender catching up to Gibson on the quality side

@HailRider Год назад

or catching down, rather.. Saddens me..I love my Fenders and each one is high quality. This one... I might pass on.. unless its a fluke. I would take a hard look and play in store before buying.

@leftyo9589 Год назад

yeah, at over 2 grand they really need to be able to get the dots centered between frets. thats just pure lazy quality control.

@fernandoreynaaguilar1438 Год назад

@@leftyo9589 AND the pickups. And the crack near the neck. Any way, I'd take that one for less than 900

@A_Noid Год назад

@@fernandoreynaaguilar1438 These fantastic pickups can be bought separately. That would be an option.

@BobPapadopoulos Год назад

A true race to the bottom. Why I prefer Ibanez knockoffs of their designs.

@niemand5627 Год назад

Established Titles is eating my soul away bit by bit on each episode...

@zoeyjune2193 Год назад

How he says DjeNmo when its clearly spelt Djemo haha

@alanhumid6938 Год назад

You would say a couple of words for money dude, install a sponsor skip plugin or something

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

Ha ha ha ha ha

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

@@CatBlackGuitars The key word being "claimed". Given these last 3 years I don't believe anything anymore! just saying..............

@fairguinevere666 Год назад

@@CatBlackGuitars it's not really a scam, IMO. They say they'll give you a certificate, and they do! And while there's no legal route to getting a lordship from that, there's also no real enforcement of honorifics like that so you're as free to do it with or without paying them. It's like when you "adopt an animal" at the zoo or name a star. Whereas at least to me a scam would involve stealing information, outright not delivering anything, etc.

@acme401 Год назад

Your fly is down :)

@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад

Why are you looking?

@Chino_kochino Год назад

😂😂 I saw that too!!! Lol

@zacgougeon6496 Год назад

@@sgt.grinch3299 it’s just a friendly reminder

@guitarstorms Год назад

your wammy bar could fall out.....

@martyshwaartz971 Год назад

@@sgt.grinch3299 why are you not?

@christianhunter777 Год назад

Since we're handing out titles, I think this one ought to be christened 'Sir Hums a Lot!'

@NeptunesLagoon Год назад

yES, "SIR NOT GROUNDED" SOUNDS OFF , DOESNT IT...?

@y2ksierra Год назад

Sounds like a time when I soldered the leads on an output jack backwards. This one is a QC nightmare all around 🤣

@kikboy2086 Год назад

Dude gibson does the worst guitars for the price right now and honestly my fender mexican tele is the most versatile guitar in could ever imagine

@frankiedrocks765 Год назад

In 75 these guitars were not refinished in Nitro. These guitars are not meant to be Custom shop specs but are meant to be built according to the factory specs of that year. The purpose of the built is to get as close to the guitar (vintage) year spec without it being the actual vintage guitar.

@nojuanatall3281 Год назад

Wow those fret markers is unbelievable! For a 2,300$ guitar it better be perfect.

@parkerdavidson5868 Год назад

I reported it but yeah the reply on this comment is absolutely spam

@davidburke2132 Год назад

The CuNiFe pickups didn’t “return” in this series. They returned already a couple of years ago in the Tele Custom in the American Original Series.

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@hkguitar1984 Год назад

True 👍

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

@@bulletv1 👍 One of these days I'll have a set.

@davidburke2132 Год назад

@@bulletv1 indeed. I bought a set for a Fender Japan Tele Deluxe I bought a couple of years ago.

@GearGasms Год назад

Glad you added that! I was going to say the same thing

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

15:09 Please, correctly adjust the pickup and pole piece height (lower it). With the pickup that close to the string you are loosing all the dynamics the pickup has to offer. Adjusted correctly that neck pickup should sound more like a strong Stratocaster neck pickup. sigh..................

@scottbogfoot Год назад

Yeah, if removing the pickups you should figure out what the factory specs say they should be and set it to that, especially if demonstrating how it was intended to be. Cheers HK!😃

@ushnicyuvnikof2748 Год назад

For a $2000 guitar this is an absolute bodge job. The grain not matching at all on one side of the body makes it look like a repair, I've seen better neck inlays on $200 guitars, the routing looked amateur, the finish cracking so early means it'll crumble in several places in months probably. And to top it all off it sounded AWFUL. 😖

@eddiejr540 Год назад

See there boys and girls…Gibson isn’t the only company that can make a “dud”!!!!!

@Techead78 Год назад

It would be cool if the dot inlays gradually disappear under the frets.

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@robertlowery5586 Год назад

I like the gradually sinking (or rising) dot inlay- sorta like the Sun setting below the horizon.

@christopherlouck2907 Год назад

I enjoyed seeing it. I am excited to see the replacement. Hopefully no ground issue, dot issue, or pocket cracks. Otherwise it sounded like I hoped. Like single coils in a way, but (normally) without single coil hum.

@bigmikeyz0071 Год назад

Man, this the 3rd RU-vid review that I saw were Fender’s new v2 line had qc issues. They have been nothing major and all were easily fixable but at this price point Fender needs to do better. I have also seen posts on social media with some rather bad aesthetic errors that aren't as fixable like Trogly’s dot issue. One Reddit poster received their 75’ deluxe tele with a 70’s Stratocaster neck decal lol. Maybe their rushing orders or it’s all the layoffs catching up to them. Fender has always had a good reputation for their attention to detail and qc especially on their higher tier lines. I want a v2 66’ jazzmaster but I’m waiting until Fender gets their act together.

@A_Noid Год назад

I don't know, those dots are not easily fixable. That's pretty bad for a not cheap at all guitar. It's too bad really. My pro Strat bought a few years ago was basically perfect QC wise.

@jonathanhudak2059 Год назад

Bigmikeyz00 hope you get the 66 JM eventually. That's a fantastic looking guitar! What color would you get? I like the red probably the best and then maybe the traditional sunburst

@bigmikeyz0071 Год назад

@@A_Noid yeah my fender pro was perfect right outta the box. The dots and pocket cracks definitely aren't easy fixes. I meant the qc issues were fixable not the bad aestic mistakes. I'll edit my post so its clearer. Even the strat decal on the tele is a bummer but it certainly makes it unique but won't help resale lol. I agree at this price point fender has to do much better. Ryan from 60 cycle hum had a switch issue on a 66' jm. Another reviewer who purchased his 61' v2 strat it came with an awful setup. A british reviewer who helps Keith from five watt world had some minor issues with attention to detail on a v2 57' strat. I saw reviews and posts were there were no issue's but when you see this many on release it usually means their rushing production unfortunately.

@bigmikeyz0071 Год назад

@@jonathanhudak2059the sunburst is cool but I'm a sucker for a matching headstock lol. I do prefer the red however I already own several red guitars so I'd probably go with lake placid blue. Both look great though and I typically prefer Fiesta red but the darker shade of Dakota looks excellent on the jazzmaster. I'm actually hoping more colors become available over time. Perhaps stores like cme, music zoo and others will have exclusive colors in time.

@EXHUMEnCONSUME Год назад

Wow they actually got the tuners right. Tele Deluxe reissues usually have the F stamp tuners that came on Strats and regular Teles, when the old ones actually came with the sealed tuners.

@rondobondo6600 Год назад

Wallmart

@grantcindrich Год назад

Commenting apex🙌

@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад

RONDO BONDO in with a Bronze Medal, but you always have Gold with the best comment on the internet.

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

Apex Commenting for sure, spot-on Grant Best Comment Ever Sir

@Bluedragon003 Год назад

Looks like Fender replicated the same quality control of the CBS erra as well LOL! In all seriousness I'm planning on getting the '57 Strat, then the '61. I love this "new" series Fender is doing I hope it sticks around.

@LydianLunch Год назад

Very honest and brave review. There have been so many videos raving about this new Fender line. You got one off the shelf for an actual customer (not a reviewer) and it was sub-par. It’s sad it left the factory like that. I hope Fender will replace it and get their act together a little more. Thanks.

@derrick11 Год назад

Watching this with my 9yo and he pointed out a zipper issue at 2:09 .

@Chris-wy7je Год назад

Great show again Trogly. Can’t really judge QC from a one off. Fender are however trying to aggressively cut costs with firing and rehiring staff as I understand it.

@thesnapperkeeper Год назад

Nice,Fenders QC is almost as abysmal as Gibsons now

@A_Noid Год назад

Fender’s QC is generally pretty good (at least better than Gibson), but the new American Vintage series seems to have a lot of QC problems. And these aren’t cheap guitars. Pretty hard to justify these prices compared to say the American Pro ii, especially with these 70s models, which have poly finishes. At least these cunife pickups are great.

@216trixie Год назад

What's qa?

@leftyo9589 Год назад

@@216trixie quality assurance.

@216trixie Год назад

@@leftyo9589 Aha. It sure is. But that is not what he had up there before. The comment said "Fender's QA". Now I see it reads QC. Lol.

@A_Noid Год назад

@@216trixie Used QA, changed it to QC since evidently QA seems less used than QC ;) I see QA as encompassing QC, but maybe I'm wrong.

@charlesbolton8471 Год назад

@@A_Noid I think QC is more commonly used in the general public. However, in manufacturing I’m reasonably sure the term QA is more prevalent.

@jamesdantonio9710 Год назад

Of the "3-bolts", the pair are screws but the lone fastener is a bolt. It's placed just above the hexagonal tilt adjustment. It needs to be a bolt because it barely reaches into the maple of the neck as to not interfere with the end of the truss rod.

@thetoneknob4493 Год назад

you probably pulled out the ground wen you flipped over the pick guard

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

exactly

@burritosupreme333 Год назад

Great insight... They're definitely screw on necks. I've got a construction background and I've never even thought about that until now🤦‍♂️

@thehark6247 Год назад

Telecasters of that era that sit on a stand alot, often have dots that drift towards the bridge.

@roncollins6259 Год назад

Lmao!!!!

@Satchmoeddie Год назад

Copper Nickel Ferrite alloy? CBS Fender hired Seth Lover to design a humbucker so CBS would not have to pay Gibson licensing fees, but in another 6 or 7 years Gibson's patents on the Gibson humbucker all expired. Let's go back to 1952. Gibson hired Seth Lover to design a pickup so Gibson would not have to pay licensing fees to De Armond. The man Les Paul was using De Armond pickups in the neck position of his personal Les Paul guitars.

@musicauthority9939 Год назад

I like Telecasters, but I have a long list of gripes with this one. starting with that fugly headstock. then the marker inlay dots being out of wack. and it gets a lot worse with those crappy sounding pickups. even with that grounding issue fixed they still would sound horrid. I don't like single coils even the noiseless ones. because of all that sixty cycle hum especially under florescent lighting. so the main reason I thought I might like this one is because of the humbuckers. but I definitely have to pass on this one.

@dwightbivens Год назад

I own a 1975 Telecaster Custom, ( Big in front, regular size in back ), These are amazing how much they look like the 1975. Mine is even a three piece body, and the same looking Sunburst. I like the fact that they are not priced like a Custom Shop. Same looking quality control 😊

@roncollins6259 Год назад

You own one great guitar if it's anything like my 73! The wide range neck with the single coil together sound absolutely incredible. The wide range pickups can't be beat. My bride single coil isn't factory according to a local luthier that I trust and respect, but I can't imagine the factory pickup is a lot different considering he said the resistance values were the same. The customes from this era have a mojo that just can't be duplicated. Keith Richard's, Rich Robinson etc know how special they are. I saw Candlebox in concert around 10 yrs ago, and Peter Klett played on the entire show, and honestly had one of the best high gain sounds I've herd live. Probably, largely due to the custom and the CuniFe pickup. Sounded like he had the pickup selector parked in the middle for his solos!

@adrianr2312 Год назад

Welcome back everyone! Great start to the weekend

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

Ditto that Adrian

@jimmyjames2022 Год назад

Larger bobbins and covers, but also the original WRHBs have steel reflector plates between the bobbins and the base plate. Kind of like a Tele bridge pup. I want one of these Vintage II Deluxe, but it would cost half as much instead to stick CuNiFe WRHBs into a Vintera Deluxe, as their AlNiCo WRHBs and routs are the proper size.

@GeordieGuitarGuy Год назад

Lots of really sloppy QC issues reported on the AV2 series so far - hopefully they iron them out, along with the pumpkincaster necks. Doubt they will though. The AV2 is basically 2/3rds pre 2012 AVRI spec with some slightly more vintage correct stuff kept from the AV1 with the pure vintage parts etc. The AV1 is still the re-issue to have.

@pookatim Год назад

I like these pick-ups. Would prefer different color choices for both the body and pick guard.

@ravenbom Год назад

I hope this isn't a common QC set of issues because it really is interesting how much closer it is to a regular tele in sound with the CuNiFe pickups.

@sjlefebvre Год назад

I had a '76. Loved that guitar... wish I still had it!

@brendangilberti7246 Год назад

Got mine in mocha, fit and finish very good including placement of the dot inlays. Also great setup out of the box.

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@@Nojumper0 don't know what that means but sounds good

@Ceremyjohen Год назад

Yeah - I had the American Vintage II Jazz Bass. It had the same off center fret dots issue. I tried the “variable string spacing” the vintage bridge provides but that just move the whole saddle over. I too checked old photos of the real thing and, nope, the dots are perfectly lined up. I think my bridge was mis-mounted as well. Not something I’d want to keep for $2.5K all told. The pictures on Fender’s website show the same thing. I returned it.

@gregoriyefimovichrasputin4931 Год назад

The poly finish on the 70s guitars in this series is a historical spec. I believe.

@dinosauria55 Год назад

The pickups remind me of the Gibson MHS2s. A way more useable tone than a standard mudbucker. The issues on that make it a no questions return tho. My AmPro II Jazzmaster had a similar issue with the wiring. The switch in mine was installed twisted so the wiring was contacting the shielding in the cavity so thankfully it was an easy fix. Fender QC isn't the best at the moment. They're struggling to meet demand and it's showing in the QC.

@deplinenoise Год назад

You always sound great on a tele!

@waltergwiazda1803 Год назад

Thank you 😊👍

@IL2TXGunslinger Год назад

I could buy a Les Paul standard for this price. It simply amazes me what Fender charges for cheaply made instruments. No binding - 3 screws holding the neck - which was a cost saving measure in the 70’s (I know I lived through it). What junk

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@jr2904 Год назад

Gibson isn't perfect either

@dieselgoinham Год назад

If you want perfect you buy Japanese.

@IL2TXGunslinger Год назад

@@jr2904 it’s not perfect that I’m referring to are the materials and labor. It’s a bolt on guitar made of cheap materials.

@vanshankguitars Год назад

For an instrument in that price range, you'd think there would be a one piece body or 2 at most. 3 piece body should be Squier tier in my opinion. All in all that guitar shouldn't have left the factory in that condition.

@Dale_Higgins Год назад

"Doesn't appear to be a grounding thing"? Its literally doing exactly what a guitar does when it's not grounded lol The reason touching the strings isn't making it go away, but touching the electronics does, is the ground wire should be connected to the bridge, and it's clearly not here

@ravusursi893 Год назад

If that’s a “deluxe” I’d be very worried about the standard range!

@lopezomoza Год назад

Tom Cochrane played this exact model on the Life is a Highway video in 1991

@Psichlo1 Год назад

Honestly, this has been a criticism I have had for Fender after I bought my strat a couple years ago. I was a die hard Fender fan for decades and never really had an issue. I bought my American made strat a couple years ago and paid 1800 for it. I was so excited about getting a strat again, only to have my hopes dashed by crappy QC. The neck was crooked to the point that the high E string was off the fretboard by the 13th fret. Intonation was not even remotely close. These things would be easily dealt with, and just a minor annoyance if not for the almost 2k price tag. The defense is always, just get a setup, I'm getting there. After loosening the neck and getting it straight in the pocket and making minor adjustments to the intonation the action felt a bit high and I found that the bridge wasn't even radiused to the fretboard. Once that was complete; low and behold, the real monster made it's appearance. There was fret buzz on almost every string past the 12th fret. At this point, my frustration was growing. I took it to a shop that has an extremely reputable luthier and paid to have a full setup; they ended up having to do a full fret level, crown and polish to address the fact that the guitar had numerous high frets. So after paying more money and more time to get this thing in a playable state, I was happy....for a little while. More issues are creeping up with the neck less than a year after having the work done on it. I say this time and time again; it doesn't matter what company you're a fan of, there is no excuse for that kind of poor craftmanship and QC when dealing with an instrument in the price range. That's the kind of thing you expect of a 150 dollar squier guitar and amp combo kit not an American made 2k guitar. It is unfortunate that made in America doesn't seem to mean that much these days.

@roncollins6259 Год назад

That sucks! I guess you baught it on line, without playing it? Why did you decide to keep it and not return it? Just curious. I've baught a few guitars that I knew I would have to invest money into because of the way it felt and sounded. And honestly, in my almost 40 yrs of playing and owning lots of guitars (plus a close friend owned a guitar store) I realized that almost every guitar that was under $1,500 or so, needed the frets leveled. Even high end $3000 guitars, some needed it. PRS seems to have the best factory fret jobs in my opinion. My friend was a PRS dealer. I've literally played hundreds,and never played one that needed any fret work. If they can do it, even on the least expensive models in the SE line, then you would think everyone could. In my opinion, it's the most overlooked thing that can drastically effect playability in the higher frets. I learned the level and crown myself due to this issue. Its not hard and doesn't require a lot of money in tools.

@robinmabbott7334 Год назад

I have a 1974 Tele deluxe which I bought from Gordon and Simpson in Edinburgh Scotland It's similar to the one you have but the bridge pickup is set into the ashtray style bridge with 3 saddles it's a single coil The neck is a large humbucker . The neck itself is a one piece maple Tele neck not the strat styled neck you have 2 Vol 2 tone 3 way switch and jack socket on the side . It has the comfort cutaway on the side . It's a 3 piece body with a 4 hole bolt on neck . I got rid of the ashtray cover and no not where it is . I nearly changed the tuners but watched a video on youtube on how to clean them up and get them working good I have replaced the bridge pickup with a Warman similar pickup .Oh and it's left handed . The guitar sounds great and for 20 years was the only electric I had Still got it still play it but tend to use my 6 string Rickenbacker these days . BTW I'm not a fan of Gibson so I was surprised to see you looking at a Fender the best guitars in the cozmos .... ( Insert stupid laugh )

@larrynoe6162 Год назад

Very disappointing Austin at that price point.

@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад

Z is for retired. Chloe doesn’t like the nonstop buzzing. She left the room.

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

LOL, I believe the buzzing may have been caused by operator error. Greetings Sarge, hope all is well with You and the family.

@scottbogfoot Год назад

Cheers Sgt! 😃

@travisbliss8144 2 месяца назад

Have a '77 reissue with a CuNiFe humbucker. Had that buzz, pulled the humbucker out and rescrewed it down through the 4 springs that came loose when adjusting the height of the humbucker and the buzz went away. When you back those screws out they're short enough it leaves a space where the spring literally buzzes.

@alexandriashannon7438 Год назад

For $2000 I’d expect at least a two piece center seem body with at least some decent grain matching.

@wadeguidry6675 Год назад

Going to the Trogly's Gibson museum is definitely on my bucket list, so hurry up and make it before I die! LOL

@joetheman74 Год назад

Trogly, it would be interesting for you to update us when you get this one replaced on that buzzing problem. Is there also a defect with the wiring? Curious to know if Fender can produce a $2000.00 plus guitar without any of these problems you experienced. This is a nice guitar and I like the specs. If it was all working properly.

@Trog Год назад

I am replacing this one for the NGD orderer so yes, I'll give the replacement "a go" when we unbox it in the unboxing series

@paradiswest4395 Год назад

I love the 3 color sunburst. Too bad the pick guard covered up so much of it.

@TheStrummer Год назад

got a reissue Fender CuNiFe set and got it installled on my 60th anniversary tele deluxe, 1meg pots and everything love that sound 👍🏼

@scottbogfoot Год назад

Covfefe pickups 😂😂

@rondobondo6600 Год назад

Wallmart award for you

@hkguitar1984 Год назад

Congrats Scott. I really hope Trogly tells the story/history of the WRHB CuNiFe pickups. The story is amazing as it demonstrates how Gibson and Fender are connected.

@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад

Congratulations on climbing to the summit of the Mole Hill and earning a Gold Medal Scott

@scottbogfoot Год назад

@@sgt.grinch3299 thank you Sgt! Cheers 😃

@scottbogfoot Год назад

@@hkguitar1984 thanks HK! Cheers 😃

@marctastic1234 Год назад

I have the body of the squire version of these guitars. Do you know if the squire wide range are the same as the fender?

@spearmintvole9522 Год назад

Few years ago I brought a USA pro Tele. No grounding wire to the bridge and no real attempt at shielding. Last year I got a Strat with exactly the same issues. I still have them but it irks me to have to finish the guitars off for Fender and they had no setup at all. Fender USA has been shipping guitars for years without proper QC but seem to get a free pass compared to Gibson.

@millmoormichael6630 Год назад

Thing for me is that with that price with some luck you could find a CS Nocaster or such.

@smittysmat7826 Год назад

As I write this, my buddy is awaiting delivery of one of these in Mocha. In 1975 he bought one(his first guitar) just like it. Years later he sold it…a move he came to regret. He has tried for years to buy it back from the fella he sold it to, to no avail. He’s pretty excited about getting it, but hopefully quality control was better on the one he’s getting.

@Furtheronmusic Год назад

The headstock overspray I might be wrong but I think I the 70s they sprayed nitro over the decals. I think they've recreated that

@WesternFlyFisher Год назад

Great video, as always, and I agree that it's disheartening to see these quality problems on a $2k guitar. I hope someone at Fender sees this video, and that the necessary changes are made at the factory; I also think you gloss over how great this guitar sounds! This particular guitar (and all of the newer CiNiFe reissues) seem to have noise issues but are otherwise sonically remarkable. If Fender can get their act together and iron out the wrinkles, we have a truly special instrument here.

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@braderrick 11 месяцев назад

Definitely doesn’t have a strong ground or something came apart in the string ground. Touching the strings or bridge should stop the buzz just the same as touching the pickups. Lot of money to pay for those qc issues

@petevadelnieks Год назад

As someone with 2 Teles with Cunife humbuckers, that hum is not normal. That thing is not properly grounded. Still, best Neck pickup tone out there. FYI, the pots are 1meg, that's what they did in the 70s, and you can tell the difference if the Cunife humbuckers aren't connected to 1meg pots.

@IL2TXGunslinger Год назад

It’s Alder - Look at the Ald on pickup cavity again

@ericbgordon1575 Год назад

I owned a reissue of the '72 Thinline Tele which had these same pickups from April 2011 to September 2017. I liked it, but they were very few people that I played with that shared my opinion. The Dogear P90s in the less-expensive Modern Player Deluxe Thinline Tele I got in January 2021 are much beefier (at least to me) than the wide-range humbuckers. It would be great if you could procure one of those and review it, Trogly.

@A_Noid Год назад

These 72 thinline didn’t have actual cunife pickups. They came back with the American Original series a few years ago.

@georgeprice4212 Год назад

@@A_Noid I saw an Original ‘75 Telecaster Deluxe in a pawnshop 30+ years ago and it DID indeed have the Cunife pickups installed. I decided not to get it because it seemed like it had a headstock repair done.

@A_Noid Год назад

@@georgeprice4212 oh I was talking about the reissue of the 72. But yeah, those cunifes are great pickups. I just don’t like the general vibe and look of 70s Fenders.

@roncollins6259 Год назад

None of the 70s telecaster deluxe or customes came with a nitro finish, so they are period correct. I own a 74 deluxe, and have played an American vintage. Fender has done a great job. Especially with the pickups. There my favorite and sound incredible with gain. No matter how much gain you send it through, they stay clear and more "articulate" then any other humbucker on the planet, in my opinion

@tomleary121257 Год назад

, vintage on Fender means you can hear that sound in the background and I didn't like it so I got rid of everything that I own until I got the noiseless pickups and then I fell in love

@jeremyabel1992 Год назад

I bought the American made Jim Root stratocaster years ago and had the same problem with the dots being centered and even came with the 81/60 configured with the 60 on the bridge and the 81 on the neck. meanwhile my mexican made Jim Root telecaster came with no flaws at all. Fender’s american made QC needs some serious improvements.

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@jamesharper7661 Год назад

I really like the tone. Especially the middle position. I'd return it for the other issues though. Keep up the great work Trog!

@middle_pickup Год назад

The wide range humbucker is the best pickup ever made. It's full, loud, and bright. It's kind of rare that you find a product aptly named like that. Assuming Seth Lover was responsible for the name too, it makes me think that Seth Lover actually had a ear about him. He did incredible work. I really hope this, the custom, and the thinline tele with these pickups stick around in the Vintage II line. They drop CBS era models often.

@martinclayton7260 Год назад

I'd love one of those, but those faults should have picked up on inspection? I'd like one of the 51 Teles, and 62 Strat.

@Livelaughlimpbizkit Год назад

70's fenders had a poly sealer or base coat and still used a nitro top coat (on the body) the neck was all poly except for the front where the decal is which was still nitro, so this isn't correct for the spec. Also I don't think you ground the bridge when you put it back together.

@TheTurkey79 Год назад

Poly finish on a 70's model is era correct for Fender B)

@nedsdonutshop Год назад

Do you do the “tone” segments before or after you take them apart?

@lukekelly4360 Год назад

Yes

@Ry_Valz Год назад

that bridge is not grounded cause the noise is still there even when holding the strings. Full on copper shielding and grounding that bridge will help this guitar silent...and when i say full copper shielding, *include the pickup cover and open corners of the pickups* . I also shield the bottom of the fixed bridge and solder a wire there connected to the cavity shielding.

@ML-ii3we Год назад

That one is definitely a lemon. My AO tele custom doesn’t hum with the neck pickup.

@Imabassplayer2 Год назад

So close yet so far. A a bassist this Tele really caught my eye now i feel disappointed. The pickups just didn't do it for me. I thought they wold sound half way between a humbucker and a single coil. Might as well just buy a regular Tele if the Vintage II doesn't offer something a little different in sound. Also I don't like the ambered over headstock. It looks weird with the more yellow fretboard. It doesn't work either amber the whole neck the same or don't. The uneven dots don't bother me nor does the neck pocket finish damage. The buzzing does, my Les Paul DIY kit has a similar issue. Rewired it a lot and still has the issue, although much reduced now. It certainly isn't a good look that this guitar passed quality checks and left the factory like that. All in all a great looking Tele (minus the headstock colour) shame it doesn't live up to expectations.

@jamminben998 Год назад

Telecaster Deluxe’s are perfect for those who want the “Les Paul” but fender feel

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@RobertFisher1969 Год назад

I’m more partial to the Toronado. It was too short-lived. I was very happy when they introduced the Squier one a few years back.

@willcorg1979 Год назад

I prefer my vintage ‘75 Strat. It plays and sounds like a Siamese Dream!

@candyapplesun Год назад

Looks awesome, but a real shame about the issues that you’ve highlighted. Especially for how much it costs. Another great video Trogly!

@waynebake1123 Год назад

The grounding error is there is no grounding to the bridge. Given the other huge factory mistakes on this it's not surprising.

@brucehayes7251 Год назад

We were told as fitters(machinist) that a screw has thread cut right up to the head,a bolt didn't,so technically guitar necks are secured by bolts? If you put thread inserts into neck you could secure with `screws'.

@TheAtariCreep Год назад

I almost pulled the trigger on one of these because I was born in 75. Might now wait for a used example I can try personally at a lower price. Or hold out for a beat up great playing 1975 Marauder. LOL

@WalkenDead Год назад

I know you like odd things, so I'll throw this out there even though you typically do higher end guitars. Squire did a Tele called the Custom II, I'm guessing somewhere around 2010. It is very similar to the Deluxe but has Duncan Design p90's. I know those pickups are hit and miss, but luckily mine are a hit. I got this guitar from my uncle's estate, he didn't leave a will but my cousin told to pick a guitar. He had some very nice vintage stuff (1963 Gretsch Chet Atkins, 25th anniversary Strat, etc..) but I went with this because I'm not a douche lol, and I just found this thing interesting. Long story short if you ever run across one at a good price could be worth a review.

@roncollins6259 Год назад

Super interesting that the E string catches the pole pc on the pickup. My 74 deluxe did the same thing! Guess they nailed it! Lol