The fact that we're even "allowed" to conduct such trials and research is amazing. I'm really interested in what the future brings regarding psychedelics.
It's surprising to me too. I was thinking it would take forever with the bureaucracy and all, but it so needs to happen. I'm also kinda suspicious that there's some profit seeking behind the sudden policy changes and such. Either way, I'm happy that some knowledge will come from it.
The whole point of how some people believe we must have the blessing of some authority to do something like this is a travesty on orders of the Holocaust
Another DMT trial was done for up to 90 minutes on 31 subjects at University Hospital Basel, Switzerland following the London trial. The study afterwards was concluded one year ago this month. Andrew Gallimore created the data that was used by pharmacologists to conduct the London study, and he's giving interviews to various channels on youtube. He's a bit of a recovering Materialist, but he is interesting.
@@ScottBritton Yeah, it does sound very intense. I found out about it from an interview Andrew Gallimore gave Koncrete. Interesting guy with some connections and lots of data.
The way he explains things makes me agree more with his position than a spiritually centered one. It's really just the difference between magic and science. Magic is just science we don't understand yet. What one may contribute to "spirit" (that which they do not yet grasp), he is attempting to deconstruct and explain with science. And he's succeeding.
@@Mi_Mono Reductionism cannot account for that which moves the unseen. If you accept the philosophical concepts of zero, infinity, or eternity, then it logically leads us to the conclusion that existence is self-emergent. To assume the religious doctrine which implies that our universe's creator is entirely separate from us is just as illogical as asserting the Materialist doctrine which implies that matter first materialized incidentally. The two are inextricably linked, which is what mathematics may succeed in proving if scientists will ever get out of the way of real science.
Something coming to mind watching this: “In regard to ‘set and setting’ in life: it is written in the word “Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” I believe the intent in that passage is not because you may get said salvation wrong, but worse yet, you may get it right. Take care how you make your bed, etc. Spirit is mind. Spiritual is mental. There are many realms, and it amazes me no one legitimizes them. Is the digital realm not where 21st century children go to play and create? Where adults go to learn? Is the Dmt realm not the “next town over” from the physical? The world of thought and mind IS the other side of the veil.
I have a question. I have done DMT about eight times now. Seen some amazing things, and met entities! At the time, it's beautiful and colourful, and a deep sense of love. But when I come out, tbe imagery starts to fade, until I cannot remember much of the imagery, just pieces, which I find frustrating. When you were in the extended state, did you find you retained more because of the duration, or does the imagery fade when you come of of it? Great idea by the way. Not watched all of it yet, so sorry if this has been answered :)
Thanks so much for such a great conversation--engaging, thoughtful, knowedgeable... I laughed, I cried, I looked things up. Planning to take walks with Alan Watts xx
Thank you for making this!!!! I’ve been connecting with this experience which found me on my birthday 2013. I think he puts it into a good perspective.
He started watching Babylon 5 to understand the Shadows' philosophy better, but then went to the Vorlons afterwards to understand their philosophy of " who are you". Ultimately understanding these two questions as guides and not all encompassing mentalities that possess us.
I have applied to be part of a long duration study. I have a background in the military and as an alcohol and substance abuse counselor. I am excited to see the establishment start to embrace research into psychedelic compounds. Do you have any tips for me when I do any type of interview? I'm not sure of the process and am waiting for the follow-up email with the process.
stop saying there's "two types" of dmt. 5-meo-dmt is a different molecule, as different as psilocybin, which is 4-PO-DMT, and bufotenin which is 5-OH-DMT, but nobody calls those "types of dmt"
I have a question.... I have been hearing some people say that the brain itself is responsible and is creating these semi conscious mechanical elves when high on DMT... that it's all just an illusion... that it is not real or a real reality... OK... let's take that as a premise... If this is so, then how do we know when we come back from a DMT trip, back to this reality, that the brain is not doing the same thing to this reality ? How do we know that everything around us is real or not that it's not also an illusion just like the mechanical elves !!! Do you guys see where I'm going with this? ..... it's a paradox.... I believe that this reality is just as much a simulation as the DMT reality.... Or, am I wrong, and both realities are real ??? lol
@@ScottBritton As I look at this subject from a different angle It seems to me like DMT is a gateway, or a way to change the dial to change the channel on reality...
@@Thomasp671 I think it provides a temporary leap in consciousness that allows opens us up to information and dimensions not typically accessible in normal consciousness
@@ScottBritton that is exactly what's happening.... the DMT is acting like a switch... once the switch is turned on it separates us from this reality into many others... It boost our consciousness much higher than it is here in this reality... everything is enhanced, including all of our mental and emotional senses.... One other thing that it does is it lets us instantly know that this reality is not the only one.... that there is in fact another dimensional conscious space... this is why when you come back from this experience, it changes your life forever...
Yeah I have to agree, I don't want to be judgemental however the fact he stated he wants novelty suggests he is chasing peak experiences. Each to their own I suppose.
"extended state" not really. Ayahuasca can last 4-6 hours and some shamans take it daily for years. They also say it has reverse tolerance so it becomes more powerful and eventually you only need small doses to achieve the same effect, probably has to do with chronic mao-inhibition
I think the term is relative to the direct consumption compound DMT which last 10 minutes. Both myself and the guest have been in plenty of aya ceremonies and they are quite different even though it contains the compound
@@ScottBritton yes, though you can brew aya either DMT heavy or MAOi heavy and it will produce different effects depending on the recipe. Pure DMT will always be different than aya too but idk if it's better in any way, some say the mao inhibition gives it depth
This is the beginning of the dmtx trials. They did a short trial to make sure participants can actually endure it. Yes, we know from Aya ceremonies that people can, but they still have to establish some safety framework to get this study going.
@@ISLAND_THUNDER even in modern literature it’s been longer than that. The ease of extraction is important. Been happening much longer. You wouldn’t say the same for cubensis would you? It doesn’t show up in the scientific literature until relatively recently but it seems to have been used for thousands of years.
Take a look at Andrew Gallimore's RU-vid course on psychodelic pharmacology. His channel is called Alien Insect. Going through this free course will give you a good idea of this field is for you.
This was a great episode, but if I’m being honest, there were too many ads. I’m listening to this while driving and I’m trying to stay on topic with a very deep conversation and then a ad comes up and totally breaks my thought process just some advice for the future. I know you need to make money.
I appreciate the feedback. RU-vid incentivizes all publishers to turn on adds. If you don’t they don’t really feature your videos. So there is a dilemma of reaching ppl vs not with ideas and messages you care about. All of this can be solved by the listener if they sign up for a paid RU-vid subscription. Something to consider given how the platform works
The death experience is because your consciousness reaches 5th density which is spirit level so the interpretation is you have died, once you get to 6 or 7th you have a difference experience.
I wouldnt be ao quick to say that "no one has d9ne this before" we just dont have podcasts🤷♂️ i smoke it almost daily. Ive definitely been under a loooot longer than 90 min at a time too. Its pretty easy with a good enough vaporizer.
@tee9341 I'm 38..just found it this past Feb. My source is nature. I've slowed down too. Haven't smoked it for 2 wks now. It's not so much that you can't function (you get used to it quick if just figjt the force and walk around. It does however make you very disconnected from your current state of consciousness. I forgot to mention. The fasternyoi vibrate, the higher your frequency the more energy you are and you can literally think about and see multiple things at once. Truths change, literal facts change. Well , because you're literally in a different reality. Not too many ppp around me could handle it more than once, let alone sip on carts all day everyday. I was doing great, I just started to became disconnected from the reality where I was. Not many ppl where able to.join me there. Let alone hang out with or even talk to me. There is only one place called Earth. All the different realities are happening here at once. So when you're on a drastically different frequency? You still visibly physically see everybody. You just can't interact with them, so it became very lonely.. No, there are no other negative side effects that I have become aware of no physical switch to notarionce. My natural baseline frequency is slightly higher than what it was when I started this journey. But life becomes a hard, it wouldn't be hard. If everybody else was on the same level, do you have to try an existente's new world by yourself?
One of the earliest things I have told myself in words is I don't want to be an age with 2 numbers, be paying bills with 3 or 4 numbers and not know what shapes are. at 25 years old, I; looking at plants' geometry, wondering what the smallest shapes that can come together are, I googled, smallest hexagon sphere; only to be told that hexagons dont make pentagon balls or triangle pyramids, but only 2D; hexagons only tile flat. I researched scanning electron microscope images and found that atoms most harmonious stack in hexagonal formations, with triangular gaps; while picturing hexagon rocks and honeycomb in beehives, I put 2 and 2 together and saw that I was looking at the second dimension in space. The same way I could picture squares creating a cube or triangles making a triangle pyramid, I could now picture flat as the same being hexagon for the number 6; meaning that flat also has 2D as a title, making 2D 6 and 7 when counting particles that make up 1 hexagon. 2 = 6 and 7 and 2-6-7 means flat generally. 6 always. (unless it is a irregular hexagon, then it curves all over the place, that's partly a joke, it would curve in at least one place.) at 25 years old I finally understood the foundation I stood on here in the 3rd dimension. I understood how plants strayed from their flat foundation to create the form they exist in here in 3D. it was and remains beautiful. I mention because like I said we live in 3D+ and if we want to explore higher dimensions we should know and remember where we come from. (I have since asked over 100 people likely over 200 now, about whether they knew about hexagon meaning flat; 2D, most including my parents have told me that 2D is more of a concept to them, not an actual shape; hearing over and over that our foundation is a concept to the majority of who I spoke to was and keeps being surreal.) Follow the path of light. Ps, since everything is vibrating; there is twice as much neutral as there is there positive or negative; watch how people stray and return to the neutral we exist in.
I did it at the wrong time and the beings got mad at me for bringing baggage by doing it at home and they physically moved me to my bed to go to sleep. Was extremely intense. I saw a carousel of my daily tasks thrown towards me to let me know i wasn’t welcome there like that
I’ve also traveled and had a profound experience that was positive. My previous comment was just to make a point they do make you feel unwelcome sometimes
🧠 The DMT X trial investigated the effects of a continuous infusion of DMT into the bloodstream for 30 minutes, a groundbreaking and mind-blowing experience. 🌌 The extended DMT trials resulted in more healing and therapeutic experiences, challenging the common myths associated with DMT. 🚀 DMT hits your bloodstream and takes you from zero to 1000 miles an hour within a second, with no build-up, just instant deep trip. 🧠 The DMT experience is like navigating the world between life and death, with angels and demons that can be both scary and beautiful, requiring discernment and mindfulness to navigate. 🌌 The DMT experience was far more intentional and teaching-oriented than expected, leading to a shift in the participant's view of reality. 🧠 It seems like you can't skip the work, even in these experiences, it's almost like a big metaphor for the Self Realization process in general. 🧠 The innate sense of courage can come from various sources and is genuinely beneficial for us. 🌍 Alex Beiner describes a mystical experience similar to the "overview effect" reported by astronauts, where he felt utterly tiny and gained a new perspective on the fragility and beauty of the planet. 🌌 Alex Beiner describes a profound experience of being in a different reality and encountering entities in a vast cosmos during the DMT trial. 🧠 The teaching presence in Alex Beiner's DMT experience suggests that human beings are just one of countless billions of intelligences in this ecosystem, providing a profound perspective on the nature of reality. 🧠 The concept of different spiritual experiences and their impact on perspective can be controversial and thought-provoking. Impact and Implications of Psychedelics 🧠 Psychedelics can give us tools to navigate our inner world and move towards thriving, addressing the lack of profound meaning and connectedness in Western culture. 🧠 We need to create a new paradigm to live by that blends together different perspectives and uses psychedelics for creativity, problem solving, and conflict resolution.
I noticed through my own experiences and now listening to alot of the interviews from people that have been in controlled experiments that nothing can be brought back from that space...in my own experience i couldnt believe how simple it (the meanong of life) was and i couldnt see it...i felt silly for not realizing what it was but of course when i got back i couldnt remember...this seems to be the case no matter how long you are there or how much drug you take..then i came across the split brain experiments that have been done and i think this may be the answer to why you cant verbalize what your experience showed you
He was speaking of wanting to Vomit during one of his experiences. I had some DMT four years ago when i was in the midst of a Methamphetamine addiction. After enhaling my second hit the world started to get visually textured with psychedelic patterns but the Nausea hit very hard. I took that as a sign that the spirits were telling me i wasn't ready and wasn’t healthy enough.
Nausea isn't necessarily a sign to stay away from a substance. Higher doses of any psychedelic can cause nausea and vomiting. Heck, Ayahuasca ceremonies are built around purging. It's nickname is 'La Purga'. Even Chris Bache experienced a lot of nausea and vomiting during his 73 high dose L journeys, which he wrote about in his 'Mind of the Universe' book. So I wouldn't consider nausea to be a firm 'stay away/you aren't ready' sign.
@@garrettkrahn1828 I didn’t think of it that way. However I’m glad I backed-off on that third hit because my intuition told me Nope! I didn’t share what I saw when the effects started taking hold. Can only explain it as my visual field became textured similar to a very psychedelic drawings by MC Escher except the design were like Aztec drawings of their soldiers intertwined in a non-repeating fashion. Totally felt like I was on the precipice of breaking through but due to the nausea I stopped. I’ve never heard of those who smoke DMT actually vomiting so I just left it alone. I do however look forward to DMT in the future if I have a reason for it. Still not healthy enough due to my health.
Yer it's just instant understanding like evrything U have ever questioned just makes sense and it sorta shows you the right path so it can be preat y imotional like you said but not in a bad way
If you ever hear of new trials please let us know…For the experience, yes. However I am an industrial designer who has been creating virtual CAD environments/products for nearly 20 years and turning them into reality. This type of experience may be helpful in mapping that realm. 🤔🤙🏼✌🏼😊
@@ScottBritton Do you know if it is all still contained in the college or have they setup an independent website? It is at Imperial College London I believe. If you don’t know, all good, I’ll check it out. Appreciate the info🤙🏼
Listening to these guys talking about finding courage and it changing them when they step up to it made me really really think about women being able to bear children. Women have that completely life changing experience, and it really does open a door into another world. Walking around in the world while a developing child lives inside your body. Made me aware for the first time how men can never know that and how much they miss from having such a spiritual connection to eternity in a sense. And, unlike DMT, etc, which is essentially a very self-centered experience, giving birth is the opposite.
I just want to know, if we can go to the entity's realm, can they come to ours? Or maybe they do, just in a different form. Like maybe specific thoughts or frequencies. Also what do you look like to them when your there? It's pretty crazy that our brain can see things our eyes could never see. Travel places we could never go.
100% they can. I had one on me for a long time, which led me down the path of Shamanisim. I've seen them trapped in Palo Santo and other 3D material items. I've also seen Smudge smoke bend 90degrees and fill in a person. Seen Spirit control birds before my eyes on request during prayer. Some people open portals and don't even realise. This is why it can take so long to integrate an experience. They are always there. Look up Mayan day out of time.
@ScottBritton it's reading between the lines and knowing the people...9 people, I think they're all buddies and then they plan to promote it after. I just personally know a lot of surrounding people, and people that aren't connected to them that have tried to be, and the "sample" is very small and similar. I have a whole plan how to optimize these studies, but I don't think they really want to. I've sent several of them an article I published, they don't even bother to read it. One said females are "troublesome." There's just a lot of reasons for suspicion.
