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An Introduction to: Stray Kids (2020 edition) REACTION BY OG KPOP STAN! (SOOO helpful) 

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SUP Y'ALL?!! Wooow, was this guide super informative and helpful or WHAT. It's so amazing how GIFTED each one of the members are individually and even more so as a group. I noticed that I said "awww" and "cute" too many damn times while I was editing this (sorry if the video can seem kinda jumpy or weird. I tried to edit it as clean as I could considering the ads, which I didn't skip. I let ads run to support channels😁. And I do have this video sped up a tiny bit since it’s such a long video, but If y’all don’t mind long videos, I will keep them at normal speed next time👍🏼). But hey, do y'all blame me for the amount of awww's and CUUUUTE's? These boys are so DARLING. They really deserve the world, and I am here to STAY the whole way.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Thanks for tuning in to this reaction video! If y'all have any constructive criticism on this video, please feel free to let me know! I'm all down for improvement.👍🏼 And if y'all have any suggestions on who to react to next, feel free to fire away in the comments.⬇️ Thank y'all so much and please stay safe out there!
PS: here’s my social media thangs if y’all would like to interact😬 I definitely DO follow back!
INSTAGRAM: / _xthina
TWITTER: / _xthina
PPS. some quick 411 about me, since these are asked about several times:
- I'm Cambodian and Chinese.
- I was born in November of 1983 so I'll be 37 this year.
- I was born and raised in Houston, TX.
- Yes, that's Jack Sparrow's ring that I always wear in my videos. I've been a Pirates of the Caribbean fan ever since I rode the ride for the first time ever in Disneyland when I was a kid. :p
💜
thina
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@Aleksandraaaaaaaaaaaa
@Aleksandraaaaaaaaaaaa 3 года назад
Jisung used to freestyle his monthly evaluations when he was a trainee cause he was quite bad at remembering lyrics😂 so he is a really talented freestyle rapper
@gragalakaisel1477
@gragalakaisel1477 3 года назад
She’s so pretty this is the first time I watched a guide reaction but I’m just staring at the reactor. dude I’m inlove LOL
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Hahah you're too kind😘 - thina
@linqjai
@linqjai 3 года назад
What we love is the personal experiences that they have that they translate into most of their songs ie. anxiety, growing up. What I would most request is for you to react to recent solo songs by ChangBin “Streetlights”, Han “Closer”, SeungMin’s multiple covers and Chan “I Dont Want to Admit It”.ChangBin’s and Chan’s songs had every single Stay bawling their eyes out, especially since they wrote the songs themselves. Please please do
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
I am SOOOOOOO writing all of these down to do. Thank you so much! :) - thina
@keyairratalley410
@keyairratalley410 3 года назад
You can watch their live-streams on Vlive ☺️
@lmojica9238
@lmojica9238 3 года назад
Welcome to the stays haven "straykids" !
@renniez1531
@renniez1531 3 года назад
They started out as 9 but Woojin left after being confronted about bullying the maknae line
@10mesos
@10mesos 3 года назад
4:30 Sana from Twice Edit: Most Twice members are close with Chan since before debut.
@vvian9449
@vvian9449 3 года назад
“He is so gangsta” 😭😂 yess. I laughed way too hard at that.
@hescutethough2419
@hescutethough2419 3 года назад
the thing is, minho didnt train much before the show of finding skz, he was a professional dancer already, but he didnt get to train his vocals for long...he never rapped before either, jyp suggested it randomly since minho were so tense at their performance and his vocals where beautiful, but not strong enough yet...when he made a tiny lyric-mistake (just nerves really) he was the first to get eliminated (later it was felix too, i guess mostly since his korean wasnt good enough-even though he learned so fast its incredible!!) but minho didnt let that stop him, him and felix did work hard even after elimination, and minho got waaaay more confident and they all got to debut as 9 in the end♥ im so glad jyp gave them a second chance, i couldnt imagine stray kids without minhos beautiful voice and elegant dance, or felix deep voice and energetic moves... as a minho biased gal i was quite pleased though haha, im surprised too that hes not a visual, i guess its because theres always just one for each group...?and hyunjin fits korean beauty standarts the most. ah well, im just glad you appreciate him^^ and same with channie, he grows on people incredibly fast~he became my second bias in such a short time xD Edit:okay what you said at the end really touched my heart, its so true, we should never let ourself get stopped by things like fear or age or uncertainty...thats what life is, nothing more than moments, and we should all make the most of it and dont give up on what we really truly love♥
@aleksandra773
@aleksandra773 3 года назад
finding skz...? did you mean the survival show?
@hescutethough2419
@hescutethough2419 3 года назад
@@aleksandra773 yeah i mean the show^^
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
I need to watch their whole survival show to really be in the feels... I almost cried just seeing the little seconds shown here! And aww, I'm glad you appreciated my comment about life. :) I got diagnosed with a chronic illness in 2015 so my perspective about "adapting to your life" has completed changed. Thanks for the love! - thina
@hescutethough2419
@hescutethough2419 3 года назад
@@ogkpopstan aw, im sorry to hear that, i hope youre still okay... And Yes, the Show is amazing, i definetely reckmmend it💕✌️
@Jo325skz
@Jo325skz 3 года назад
Love your reactions❤ Chan does a Vlive every week. He tried doing once a month but he said he missed us too much and he knew we missed him too much too.
@jessicabadere530
@jessicabadere530 3 года назад
I loved this reaction so much! There’s just something about them that’s different and unique that sets them apart from other artists that reels you in, at least in my experience. I stan other kpop groups too, but I have never loved a group the way I stan Stray Kids lol I’m looking forward to seeing how your skz journey goes. I mentioned this in your Easy/God’s Menu dance practice vid but other good choreographies that they have is Mirror and Voices if that’s not on your list yet. :)
@hanniecandy9898
@hanniecandy9898 3 года назад
welcome to the circus ❤️❤️❤️
@jokir5305
@jokir5305 3 года назад
Han has social anxiety and a fair amount of Stray kids are introverts or have those tendencies but you wouldn't believe it bc when together they have crackhead energy.
@ssw2735
@ssw2735 3 года назад
Love your reaction! I appreciate your natural and genuine responses! Yes our boys are so talented and lovable 🥰 I joined the fandom during Miroh era so it has been over a year now and my love for them is still growing. They never cease to amaze me. They keep putting out high quality music and they work sooo hard and they keep feeding Stays with so much contents. You will not regret joining the fandom. You can watch their lives (which they do often) on Vlive and you just need to follow their channel and turn on your notification. BTW I look forward to your upcoming reactions to their music and dance.
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
You're right... they NEVER ceaze to amaze us! :) - thina
@kiyoomiya
@kiyoomiya 3 года назад
i suggest you should react to their mv (title tracks) chronologically (even though you already reacted to god's menu, east, side effects and hello stranger) bc theres a story line behind it. im going to list their mvs from the start including b-sides with mv. Mixtape (predebut album): *Hellevator (title track)* Grr, Young wings 1st album series: "I am" albums I am Not (debut album): *District 9 (title track)* Mirror, Rock, Grow up I am Who: *My pace (title track)* Voices, Question, Insomnia, M.I.A, Awkward silence I am You: *I am You (title track)* My side, Get cool, N/S 2nd album series : "Cle" albums Cle 1: Miroh: *Miroh (title track)* Victory song, Boxer, Chronosaurus, 19 Cle 2: Yellow Wood: *Side effects (title track)* TMT, Mixtape 2, Mixtape 3, Mixtape 4 Cle 3: Levanter: *Levanter (title track)* Double knot, Astronaut, You can STAY 1st full length album: GO Live GO Live: *God's Menu (title track)* Easy, Blueprint, Gone Days, Top (ost of the anime 'tower of god'), Slump (also an ost of 'tower of god'), Mixtape: On Track If you're done watching all the mv (at least title tracks) i highly suggest react to their video *stray kids highlighg reel* chan explain the story line of their concept there.
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
YESSSSSS. Thank you SO much for the list in order! I plan to react to them in their chronological order (with the exception of the ones I did already) to give respect to their art of going the extra mile of having their whole journey conceptualized. "STAY" tuned! :p - thina
@Brynlia
@Brynlia 3 года назад
Loved the reaction... I have been thinking for a while that Changbin reminded me of someone but couldn't place it. When you mentioned it it was like a lightbulb went off. I could so see it. Not as close as the resemblance of A.C.E.'s Jun to Kangta, but it is there.
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
They're both badass rappers too! :D - thina
@devi7671
@devi7671 3 года назад
welcome to the fandom Thina!!! btw, i'm 30 and stray kids songs have saved me so many times. They helped me went through hard times and makes me accepting my self more. I agree with you time and age doesn't have nothing to do with art and what we really wanna go for. i really2 love them
@doniromadhoni8245
@doniromadhoni8245 3 года назад
Stray kids domination in the world, 8 singer 8 rapper 8 dancer.
@-loveholic
@-loveholic 3 года назад
I just realized youre a kpopstan since 1998 (if i heard good lmao) And only 2 members of stray kids were born (minho and chan) its so weird to realize that 😂 The lives they are doing can you find on vlive :) Some songs that are include in this are -neverending story (live) -victory song -MIROH -maze of memories -N/S -my pace
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Hahah I know right?! Makes me feel like an ahjumma to them LOL :p I downloaded vlive, hopefully I will catch their next one. THanks! - thina
@pinksalmon17
@pinksalmon17 3 года назад
The livestreams are on vlive. Tysm for your great reaction💕
@anakayamkuning9766
@anakayamkuning9766 3 года назад
Always love your reaction to skz!!! Its so genuine 🥰
@jojo.joanna
@jojo.joanna 3 года назад
Thank you so much for being open-minded especially about age and for taking the time and effort to sit down and learn more about Stray Kids through this introduction 💚
@seolaraxis
@seolaraxis 3 года назад
you can watch the livestreams on Vlive. Bang Chan is a great leader, he still does his livestream every week and the other's too. thanks for the reaction.
@idkhowiendeduphere
@idkhowiendeduphere 3 года назад
i love your reaction ❤️
@erdeneochir8316
@erdeneochir8316 3 года назад
Love your reactions
@abipeltier8712
@abipeltier8712 3 года назад
there are very few things in this world that make me happier than watching seasoned kpop stans react to stuff. this is gonna be my new favorite channel. thank you so much for making such great videos!
@lunalovegood3795
@lunalovegood3795 3 года назад
I truly love your reactions, I'll give it a like even before watching it
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
😘 - thina
@itsmisterk
@itsmisterk 3 года назад
Yes Our Queen 😍
@terrykang6829
@terrykang6829 3 года назад
_although this is kinda long but I must help new STAYs_ I suggest if you start getting to know Stray Kids (both music/personality) follow this order (for you to know that they have storyline in their MVs): *[Title Tracks]* Hellevator (pre-debut) (Mixtape album) District 9 (debut) (I am NOT album) My Pace (I am WHO album) I am You (I am YOU album) MIROH (Clé:1 MIROH album) Side Effects (Clé:2 Yellow Wood album) Levanter (Clé: Levanter album) God's Menu (GO LIVE album) (they have only became a 2 years old group in March 25, and they have a lot of album released) Some of their *[B-SIDES]* that have MVs/performance/street versions: Grrr (performance ver.) Spread My Wings (perf ver.) Mirror (performance ver.) Grow Up (MV) Rock (street ver.) Voices (perf ver.) Question (street ver.) Insomnia (street ver.) M.I.A (perf ver.) Awkward Silence (MV) Get Cool (MV) My Side (street ver) N/S (street ver) Victory Song (perf ver.) Boxer (street ver.) Chronosaurus (MV) 19 (perf ver.) TMT (MV) Mixtape #2 (MV) Mixtape #3 (MV) Mixtape #4 (street ver.) Double Knot (MV) Astronaut (MV) You can STAY (MV) Blueprint (MV) Easy (MV) *single releases:* Mixtape: Gone Days (MV) Mixtape: On Track (MV) *Japan debut releases:* TOP Japanese ver. (MV) Slump Japanese ver. (MV) (info: they have Korean version and English version too) (info pt.2: some of their songs has Japanese versions too, like My Pace, Double Knot, Levanter) *OST releases:* Neverending Story - Extraordinary (popular k-drama) Hello Stranger - Pop Out Boy (recently released k-drama) *BEST GUIDES TO Stray Kids (informative/fun guide):* 1) Introduction to Stray Kids 2020 by Hyunjin Nation 2) "Just (name of the member) Things" by straycheese (they have lot of contents so I'm a little bit worried about the new STAYs to catch up on them) (ps. you can see some songs you have already reacted)
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
THIS IS AMAZING. I love it when fans help out newer fans, especially when y'all detail it nicely for me to catch up to. And I sooo WILL catch up. Gonna be making a LOT of SKZ reactions now :p thank you! - thina
@terrykang6829
@terrykang6829 3 года назад
@@ogkpopstan you're welcome 🤗 And yeah! Welcome to the fandom✨ STAY ✨
@terrykang6829
@terrykang6829 3 года назад
@@ogkpopstan _and I would like to add these if you don't mind :)_ *[SKZ-PLAYER]* (where they could showcase their talents by units/solo) 1) Woojin, Seungmin, I.N (VOCALRACHA) - Tomorrow, Today by JJP Got7 (cover) 2) Chan, Changbin, Han (3RACHA) - Zone (single release) 3) Lee Know, Hyunjin, Felix (DANCERACHA) - dance performance 4) Lee Know - DAWN (dance performance) 5) Chan - My House by 2PM (cover) 6) Hyunjin - When the party's over by Billie Eilish (dance cover) 7) Han - Close 8) Changbin - Streetlight *[SKZ - RECORD]* (it's for singing cover or their own songs) 1) Seungmin - Start Over by Gaho (cover) (an OST for a popular k-drama called "Itaewon Class) 2) Seungmin - You Were Beautiful by DAY6 (cover) 3) Chan - I Hate to Admit (own composed, written, arranged by Chan)
@strawbelixsung
@strawbelixsung 3 года назад
always like your videos, welcome to the circus❤😆
@mars-pv4xw
@mars-pv4xw 3 года назад
you calling chans and felixs accents thick was a massive source of comedy for me because that is my accent and its considered pretty neutral on the accent scale, it gets MUCH thicker. but also when you copied chans "alone" that may have been the best aussie accent from a non aussie ive ever heard
@evilAniron
@evilAniron 3 года назад
Great reaction😊
@tiffanykim2773
@tiffanykim2773 3 года назад
Minho's a baby
@emmabruh
@emmabruh 3 года назад
I never realised the resemblance between Changbin and Jaewon but now that you said it, I can see it so clearly
@moonjunhui13
@moonjunhui13 3 года назад
It's only been two years and they grew up so fast :')
@sarakkkl602
@sarakkkl602 3 года назад
I love Stray Kids.
@tehniet
@tehniet 3 года назад
Great reaction
@hidekitojo8292
@hidekitojo8292 3 года назад
Please reaction SECRET FUN EP.5 dita feat denise rapunzel
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@miadralynnzee4706
@miadralynnzee4706 2 года назад
I agree with you on chan
@itskatmaki5258
@itskatmaki5258 3 года назад
Hiii you can watch their livestreams on vlive. Chan is doing livestream usually every sundays :)
@dananone3354
@dananone3354 3 года назад
Thank you
@rosemaendrya9779
@rosemaendrya9779 3 года назад
Thankss
@skzstan9132
@skzstan9132 3 года назад
Please don’t miss reacting to their "On Track MV" and "Blueprint MV" for their amazing vocals and visuals thank you
@muhammadrozaky5460
@muhammadrozaky5460 3 года назад
Next please reaction "SECRET FUN EPS.05" 🙏🙏🙏
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@gnabnnahc
@gnabnnahc 3 года назад
You can watch their live streams at VLIVE app . 😊 welcome to the fandom !
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Thanks for the warm welcome! :) - thina
@haroldbrewer369
@haroldbrewer369 3 года назад
Thinacious, I understand there are copyright issues around some videos. Please let your requesters know when you cannot get to suggested videos.
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Hello! Thank you so much for noticing this issue. I’m still new when it comes to making reactions and as much as I’d like to get to everyone’s requests, I don’t want to have back to back copyright issues, and also, I’m putting in so many hours just to get copyright issues and demonetization.😔 I spoke with another RU-vidr, who suggested for me to open a Patreon account where subscribers can do the $1-3 per month subscription and I upload my videos elsewhere and provide the links there. What do you think about that? that’s something totally new to me so I’d love to hear feedback on that idea. Thanks! - thina
@paritsebelah9575
@paritsebelah9575 3 года назад
THINA YOU SHOULD REACT SECRET FUN EP.5 FROM SECRET NUMBER U WILL AMAZE 😭❤
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up :) And you're right... I was AMAAAAZED! - thina
@kaliebean03
@kaliebean03 2 года назад
The girl earlier is Sana from Twice
@maerim78
@maerim78 3 года назад
At the beginning : I'm probably going to skip a lot During : GLUED At the end : never skipped at all xD
@jacobmorientes4383
@jacobmorientes4383 3 года назад
Reaction SECRET FUN EP.05 PLEASE...
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@muhammadaryasatya774
@muhammadaryasatya774 3 года назад
Next secret fun eps.5 please...
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@Abc-sy6fq
@Abc-sy6fq 3 года назад
Next Reactions Secret Fun ep 5 please
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! I loved itttt! - thina
@skzstan9132
@skzstan9132 3 года назад
Hello ❤️ Hope you can do a marathon or series together reacting to Stray Kids’ SKZ-Players and SKZ-Records, these are “special contents” they released on their RU-vid channel showcasing different units (member combinations) and solos, another side of them you must see, tthank you so much 🙏 *SKZ-Player 1. [Stray Kids SKZ-PLAYER] Lee Know X Hyunjin X Felix - Dance Line, a dance performance choreographed by Minho, Hyunjin and Felix. 2. [Stray Kids SKZ-PLAYER] Woojin X Seungmin X I.N - Vocal Line,a song cover by Woojin, Seungmin and I.N of Tomorrow, Today by JJP of Got7 3. [Stray Kids SKZ-PLAYER] Bang Chan Changbin X HAN - 3racha, ZONE, a LIT, LEGENDARY RAP PERFORMANCE. 4. [Stray Kids SKZ-PLAYER] Lee Know "DAWN(새벽) - Lee Know Solo, a dance performance by Lee Know and he participated making the instrumental music and choreography 5. [Stray Kids SKZ-PLAYER] Bang Chan "우리집(My House) - Bang Chan Dance Solo, My House, a dance cover and the singer of the song is 2PM 6. [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER] HAN "Close” - Han Vocal Solo, a song written by Han, Produced and Arranged by Bang Chan, the song was inspired by the first scene from the movie “Closer. ”Somehow I feel attracted and thrilled to a stranger I met by chance. In the lyrics, I wanted to get closer to the person. With lyrical melody and soft melody rap, I made the whole song composition and tried to express my favorite music genre as much as possible.”-Han 7.[Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER] Hyunjin “when the party's over" (원곡 : Billie Eilish) - Hyunjin Dance ttSolo, choreographed by Hyunjin, "First, the reason I chose this song was because-while searching for a song that was best-suited to the three themes of emptiness, despair, and longing-I thought that the emptiness that comes when the party’s over is the same feeling as the loneliness you feel returning home after performing on a huge stage, already missing that [stage]."- Hyunjin 8.[Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER] Changbin ”Streetlight" - Changbin Vocal Solo, lyrics/composed by Changbin, Produced and Arranged by Bang Chan, He uses the streetlight as a metaphor for how someone may look bright in the darkness but are actually sad and alone. The blue plant is supposed to represent the Blue Tree Project aimed at encouraging individuals to speak about their mental health with a message of “it’s OK to not be OK”. The blue paint was inspired by Jayden Whyte who painted a tree blue on his parents’ farm as a joke however later he committed suicide late 2018. Changbin and Stray Kids would want to encourage people to speak out either if you are feeling sad or to check on someone. *SKZ-Record 1.[Stray Kids : SKZ-RECORD] Bang Chan "I Hate To Admit It” - Bang Chan Vocal Solo - Lyrics by Bang Chan, Composed by Bang Chan, Arranged by Bang Chan 2. [Stray Kids : SKZ-RECORD] Seungmin “Start Over” Cover - Seungmin Vocal Solo
@ascharta4816
@ascharta4816 3 года назад
Please react to SECRET FUN EP.05 dita and denise secret number covering see the light ost rapunzel, they singing with great voice
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@mixx-n-match
@mixx-n-match 3 года назад
Wait.. if you started stanning kpop in 1998 then you must be in your late 20s to mid 30s right?? Wooooooow you look like you're 23~26 years old :o I wouldn't have guessed ! I hope i'll age as beautifully too xD You're gorgeous really ! And so young looking ! Ugh must be Hawaiian genes xD Oh and did i mention you look like Lisa from BP ?
@k_pop_love4009
@k_pop_love4009 4 месяца назад
It's just me notice that thair style is so same on there!?
@toyinclassicstyle1072
@toyinclassicstyle1072 3 года назад
OK im sorry but y does Chan sound like the male version of rosie - blackpink { ik thats not how u say her name but its cute so yh}
@wekarulta1211
@wekarulta1211 3 года назад
Thinaa u should check secret number's newest content, secret fun no.5
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@marylim7431
@marylim7431 3 года назад
Please react to EXO lay zhang new release mv lit is very epic
@rayyanalya4397
@rayyanalya4397 3 года назад
Pleace reaction secret number fun ep 5 Dita fit Denise singing
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@vinalynx5151
@vinalynx5151 3 года назад
Please reaction secret number dita and denise cover song by "i see the light"(tangled ost)
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@vinalynx5151
@vinalynx5151 3 года назад
Please reaction secret number dita and denise cover song by i see the light(tangled ost)
@vinalynx5151
@vinalynx5151 3 года назад
Thank you
@vinalynx5151
@vinalynx5151 3 года назад
Thina sorry2 about this
@ran_Motiv
@ran_Motiv 3 года назад
Please reaction dita and denise..
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@timjimu
@timjimu 3 года назад
The girl you don't know is Sana from Twice
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Thanks for the clarification! :) - thina
@rosemaendrya9779
@rosemaendrya9779 3 года назад
I want to recommended their performance at Vlive hearthbeat award 2019
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Added it to my reaction list! Thank you😊 - thina
@danielspace9114
@danielspace9114 3 года назад
Please reaction secret fun 05 .video news
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
Done and up! :) - thina
@huslenhuslen7250
@huslenhuslen7250 3 года назад
Plss react GOT7 plsss
@nandasfx
@nandasfx 3 года назад
Next Please react to secret number Secret Fun Eps 05 : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GK1CJVzHviQ.html
@NoLightMystery
@NoLightMystery 3 года назад
wtf I thought you were 19 or 22
@ogkpopstan
@ogkpopstan 3 года назад
It feels like I am sometimes! :p - thina
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