An Italian Own Goal - The Maserati Spyder Cambiocorse

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In today's video, I drive the oft forgotten Maserati Spyder. The precursor to the GranSpyder, this is a dedicated two seater sports car, with gorgeous looks and a stunning engine - but one big problem.
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@supaG-1.0 Год назад

It's a shame they got rid of the boomerang rear lights .

@winstonmace4865 Год назад

I believe it was due to US regulations that caused the design to change on the updated model.

@xkimopye Год назад

The boomerang made it look exotic

@HipsterNgariman Год назад

@@winstonmace4865 I believe Frank Stephenson forced the designers to change the tail lights because he couldn't argue with Ferrari boss that hated them and wanted them gone

@winstonmace4865 Год назад

@@HipsterNgariman That's interesting. Will ask him about it.

@aronaskairys88 Год назад

@@winstonmace4865 I think he mentioned that story in his reaction video to MaseratiMC20 design

@TonyMontana-zz3kb Год назад

I have the 4200 Coupe 2003, had it for 3 years now and no major issues. On 58000 miles now and it's a fantastic car to drive. The cambiocorsa gearbox is easy to use and shifts perfectly and quickly (not sure if it's has a software upgrade). I have sports exhausts which sound fantastic and sprints the car to 60 faster than my 911 3.4l . Not as engaging or rewarding as the 911, but certainly special and more exotic, and it's Italian.

@joeboomz Год назад

This video made me buy an 05 Spyder CC, happens to be the exact same colors as this one. It's a blast to drive, doesn't have the described shakes, and fills in my M-hole perfectly. Thanks for these entertaining and informative videos Jay.

@TIMSANDYSURF Год назад

I like your new appreciation of ‘interesting’ it should bring a whole new dimension to the channel and hopefully an understanding of those who keep them on the road.

@Tonewheeldude Год назад

Maserati 4200 is a great car. I have had several.:)

@gacollier Месяц назад

Great video, Jay! I bought my wife a 2002 Spyder CC with 23K miles. We've had a few repairs, but I just love this car (when she lets me drive it!). I have a little bit of cowl shake, but nothing too horrid. It surely wouldn't turn me off from another purchase. The car is so freaking visceral and always a head-turner. I picked up my wife's CC for $18K US. Pretty sure I could sell it right this minute for $30K here in the US. These cars are so rare in my area. I think there might be 2 others which I've never spotted in the wild.

@steveframe4802 Год назад

3 litre Z4 , underated , at the bottom of it's depreciation curve . Does not over power a public road. Goes. Stops . Handles. Cheap to maintain. Fun.

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

I have a lot of time for the Z4

@noostroi Год назад

I was going to ask about the scuttle shake... (Just got to the point where you mention it) My dad had one, and we were never sure whether the front wanted to stay attached to the back... Lovely engine note though! (I remember someone saying the later models were stiffer, but never experienced that first-hand)

@Jalreal Год назад

Feels like a true Italian car in every way. Cars are so homogenized now that it's difficult to stand out, and you definitely will in one of these.

@stevensdavid212 14 дней назад

Got an 05 same model. Was fun. Only issue I live somewhere where mechanics suck. Just got back today. Been in a shop over a year. Outside NY no one cared. It was a nightmare

@chriscomparescars4416 Год назад

Well placed with the intro, I think Maserati sits exactly as you say, not as crazy as a TVR but more exciting then a Jag etc

@finlaysupercars1683 Год назад

I love this era of Maserati unlike many others

@johannjohann6523 26 дней назад

Wow, they managed to fit a V-8 in that convertible, and what a clean engine bay. I must admit to be terribly disappointed not having a manual with that V-8. I'm kinda "Old Skool" that way, and like to be in control of the car as much as possible. And become "One" with the car as much as possible.

@simon_hollins Год назад

I’ve had a 2002 CC Spyder for about 7 years. I think the review is pretty accurate. Like someone else said, after a few weeks the scuttle shake faded for me. Driving in Sport makes it worse as it firms the dampers. Handling etc. is enjoyable. It’s not a sports car, it weighs 1700kg, but it has character and beauty which is what I wanted. Also, it’s not a chopped down 4200 Coupe. The Spyder was launched first and was a completely different car from the 3200.

@eze8970 Год назад

Thanks J, despite it's flaws, a Maserati will always appeal! 🙏🙏

@tes77a Год назад

Lovely looking car, but I agree the Gransport is the one to go for.

@presidentNMK Год назад

Never had that problem with ours. Sure, it's not as sturdy as the 360 Spider we also have, but it's a proper curve eater. Ours is slightly lowered and was delivered without the Skyhook suspension, so that might play a role. But I don't at all agree that this car suffers from scattle shake, at least not ours. I would guess "Rory" has some issues, not the CC Spyder in general.

@richardgrace3482 Год назад

I’ve driven 8 of them and I can absolutely verify they’re the very epitome of scuttle shake.

@presidentNMK Год назад

@@richardgrace3482 ok, then ours is unique, as it just doesn't.

@richardgrace3482 Год назад

If yours is >04MY they’re greatly improved, and Gransport Spyders are better again.

@chriscarbaugh3936 Год назад

I recently saw one, which could have been this car’s twin in a detailing shop. I totally fell in love with it. In this colour it’s 💙

@rare6499 Год назад

Lovely looking car, sounds great. Perfect to waft about it on a summers day.

@bicyclist2 Год назад

The only Maserati's we see here in the US are the Quatroporte, or the Grand Tourismo. This is simply beautiful. I hope to be able to at least see one in person some day. Great content. Thank you.

@MrArisapos Год назад

My mate had this car back in the day. Spent half its life in the workshop something kept breaking every time and even when it worked wasnt the best drive. The engine was the only marvel in this.

@AdamAus85 Год назад

Man those door mirrors looks very much like those on my 05 166. It would make sense. That's another thing I like about my 166, the mirrors. You jump and the way they kick up is very reminiscent of an Italian sports car.

@G928... Год назад

You're right they are the elec folding mirrors of a 166, even the internal switch panel for them is the same. Unfortunately the 4200's also share the heater matrix of a 166 which as you may know has developed a great tendency to leak! It's a complete dash out job to change, which I need to do this winter.

@AdamAus85 Год назад

@@G928... Dash out on 4200? I know on the 166 you can access it from engine bay.

@G928... Год назад

@@AdamAus85 Yeah unfortunately the dash has to come out. Quite a few club members have done it and documented, so hopefully not too difficult, just time consuming.

@Digitalpiracy Год назад

When it comes to scuttle shake on larger convertibles...... I'd love to see you driving an original Volvo C70 convertible to see what you made of it. Car I've always been curious about....

@edwardbarker2008 Год назад

I’d heard horror stories too about the shake but took the plunge anyway on a great deal “just for the engine”. Zero shake. None. Wonder if there’s an aftermarket fix that’s been applied by a previous owner. The clutch is an acquired taste but I got an aftermarket computer that patches into the ECM. Amazing impact.

@icantgivecredit871 Год назад

I would be very curious to know if there had been an aftermarket modification. Have you found anything new in the last few months? Supposedly, the '04+ models were stiffened... but, from what I've heard from others, even the GranSport Spyder had more scuttle shake than what was considered acceptable in a modern convertible.

@LurchLures Год назад

Can't see much as recovering from eye surgery. But Great sound from Maserati and Great commentary is more than enough. Thanks.

@6chhelipilot Год назад

The scuttle shake reminds me of an XR3i cabriolet I once drove.

@matthewgodwin3050 Год назад

Interesting observation: I've never ever heard a financially well off person complaining about a car's reliability. The type of people who do do that are invariably always working in a job paying minimum wage, and therefore can just about afford an older prestige car, but not the maintenance of said vehicle. And to cover up their ineptitude, blame the car for being unreliable. Moral of the story: Buy a well and properly maintained example of your preferred car, keep up the maintenance, and it will be pretty much fine.

@thedrivebygg Год назад

Never seen one on the road, but like the coupe versions, and they sound great.

@squarterman8807 Год назад

I owned one of these for 2 years and covered 12,000 miles in it. Black convertible with cream leather. I can honestly say that looking back it is my favourite car that I've ever owned. Absolutely loved it. Flawed, yes, but in terms of being interesting, rare, beautiful and fast it ticked all of those boxes in a way few other cars could. I replaced it with a 996 C4S convertible, which was probably slightly more dynamic but I don't look back on it anywhere near as fondly.

@richardgrace3482 Год назад

Accurate review as always James. The early Spyders are scuttletastic, 04MY onwards significantly better, but just buy a Gransport coupe.

@api849 Год назад

Gotta be a spyder - roof always down unless it's raining

@Rockit181 Год назад

Even with stiff rate coilovers, my 986 doesn't have noticeable scuttleshake. Get the Maserati coupe, or maybe the subsequent gen Spyder. I suppose you could have some chassis bracing fabricated from a racing shop, which would also solve it

@fabianhenrich4697 Год назад

This is a man who moved into gold, as everyone moved out. This is a man who drives a Maserati. To quote Mr. Clarkson here

@Spheredalai Год назад

if someone lets me decide whether i want to drive a ferrari or lamborgini for the rest of my life, i would choose maserati 100%

@iancharlton678 Год назад

That IS… a V8 🥳 cross plane every time…….. even with a power advantage, flat planes sound like blancmange…….. mellifluous-ness 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 How about straight pipes, a tune, seats, suspension and a proper fixed cage……. WooooooHooooooo!! I’m feeling it……… ❤

@G928... Год назад

Yeah I knew you'd pan it for the scuttle shake, I've got an 02 plate as well. TBH for the first few weeks it really annoyed me, (mind the windows don't rattle on mine) but now I guess my brain has been programmed to cancel that out, like white noise. Instead it is now just another of the inputs from the car. Does seem like the problem was reduced in the later 03 or 04 on cars, but I'm sure they're still not great. As you say the highlight is the engine, but I really don't find the handling bad, but yeah easy to provoke oversteer even with the stability on. Having had a Boxster S and Griff 500 in the past I'd still take the Spider for it's sense of occasion and the Maser engine is a lot, lot nicer than the pushrod Rover.

@api849 Год назад

Yes I've pretty much got used to the scuttle shake - negligable largely on European roads!! And the rattling window has been sorted.

@G928... Год назад

@@api849 Well to be fair, we do live in the south of France 🙂 Nice colour scheme on yours, I wouldn't have said it's that common on Spiders? Mine is black metallic with grey and black interior.

@Carrera-gp9od Год назад

Are the owners slightly miffed when you do a negative review like this ? I always wonder what you say to them when you take the car back 😀

@Sonnymonster Год назад

I think they know James is going to do a warts and all review, he has a reputation for telling the truth, in s good way👍

@setter501 Год назад

Bloody hell Jay! Fancy a young fella like you Knowing about Joe Walsh and his Mazzo doin 185! Good on you! (Sure it wasn't kph!? being in the 70s! 😆😆😆) Great vid BTW! From one of those old man Jag owners(no pipe no slippers!)I was dragged up in the 70s! In those days an E type definitely a young man's car! An XJ a crooks car!😆 You'd have been a big hit back then mate! we have an XKR owner, a Spanish bloke our club who never! Puts the top up, he just outruns the rain! 😆 Cheers mate! You have a big following here in Oz! 👍

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

Thanks, one day I shall visit down under I think! Lots of lovely people there commenting on my videos

@TheMrFishnDucks Год назад

Awesome car. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

@user-en9zo2ol4z Год назад

Around my suburb in Melbourne Australia, we have quite a few Maserati Giblie's and perhaps two Ferraris of mixed pedigree, they are all driven by Italians who happen to be real estate agents. Which explains it all, given the astronomical prices of these cars here. So apparently an Italian heritage and the access to vast amounts of money will inevitably result in sports cars from Italy, this also applies to motorcycles, though perhaps less so, as they are cheaper relatively. Most young Italians will be riding an MV Augusta triple cylinder, and they certainly look the business.

@paulb4uk Год назад

A great looking car though despite its scuttle shake .

@williammarchant2920 Год назад

They solved the shuttle shake with the 2005 model with a substantial steel brace under the chassis - the same upgrades they incorporated into the Gransport models.

@raypurchase801 Год назад

As the owner of a '69 Alfa: Maseratis are even more desirable, and even more trouble.

@benpenagonzales6014 Год назад

Lol - that intro was written exactly for me! Had a boxster, getting a i20N for the school run, keeping the X5.... but there's a moderately priced hole in my garage...

@tajebelazi7599 Год назад

I was lusting for the grand sport but that shaking is shaking me off the idea thanking you with much respect

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

Allegedly they're better but without trying one I couldn't say by how much

@tekis0 Год назад

I have always liked the Maserati "look."

@chrisogrady28 Год назад

The rule of roofs having to be down should extend to the windows too. Seeing people driving around with roof down windows up looks so stupid. (I know James has them you for sound quality)

@stevec9767 Год назад

Great channe! James, I enjoy watching you more than Clarkson back in the day

@TechItOut Год назад

Who needs a roof when you have that sound. Maserati definitely has the best soundtrack.

@rod4607 Год назад

I know it’s a while away but can’t wait for your LFR review

@michaelstaunton1632 Год назад

Enjoying the content on your channel keep up the good work 🎥👍👍

@snoopy10411 Год назад

Quite liked the look of these when they came out.

@malcolmhardwick4258 Год назад

Sounds like its gonna shake itself to pieces !

@jamessheehy4895 Год назад

That gear lever is hilarious

@kevincockburn7805 Год назад

Nice quote from "life's been good"

@thedetailingdoctor5746 Год назад

Fuck yes! Outrunning the rain sounds phenomenal! 😮

@emixmim Год назад

This must be a really early car. The later ones reduced the chassis flexing significantly.

@XboxTheBeatboxer Год назад

This was a great intro speech!

@sainta2667 Год назад

Such a beautiful car! timeless, classic and so special. I know - I had one. by the way, you can't drive the car in sport mode, it's too hard. The car does not shake at all in normal mode.

@markkillington3394 Год назад

As an owner of a 2003 Spyder with the manual 6 speed with glass rear window scuttle shake is non-issue. The bald lad Chris Harris mentioned the scuttle shake and it seems every car journo feels obliged to overdo since.

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

I never watched Harris' piece, or any others - I make my own judgements and the scuttle shake is horrendous. I am amazed anyone would put up with it. I drove a TVR Chimaera the week after this and it was rock solid by comparison

@hexgraphica Год назад

This review almost ended at sunset. If you manage to film a late 90s Trans-Am, be it at sunset with a funky shirt of yours and sunglasses on all the time

@clevelandaeromotive Год назад

I’ve only seen Jay not like a car, twice. Although I’m probably not right on my count. This car and the giant turbo retro-fit Skyline.

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

Also Abarth 595, modified Civic FK2, and I am sure others

@BR-ur2gk 10 месяцев назад

Ive got a 2002 Silver Spyder and really don't notice the scuttle shudder, definitely not they way your test model does, perhaps it has run flats? I get way more in my S2000, also agree the gearbox isnt that bad, its not smooth but it is a sequential manual designed with the help of Shumaker - not supposed to be smooth its also in the Enzo and no one complains abouit that .- the worst thing about the car is the SatNav/Radio in my opinion

@craigm2484 Год назад

That Sound !

@XxXBattleStarXxX Год назад

Beautiful car, I still have a nice model of the spyder in that coupe's deep blue

@Tracertme Год назад

James one thing it has over yours is it’s dry sump and more of a real race engine…. It’s a great car

@markreynolds8449 Год назад

Oddly enough a good friend had one of these and then a TVR….talk about glutton for punishment! The Maser was great and he enjoyed it a lot. But there was a nagging doubt from the dealer over the engine that persuaded him to get it replaced under warranty (Thankfully he had one!). But that just set in place a real doubt over the car and he just didn’t trust it after that. Weird how it has appreciated in that 10 years since.

@jamesonslow Год назад

I've watched so many of your videos now, James, that it feels you're becoming part of the family. Nice job once again!

@marcomorana 11 месяцев назад

You should have mentioned that the 4.2 liter engine is the same mounted in the 360 Ferrari Modena.. this is interesting also price wise..you mentioned that spyder is 22 cm shorter then the coupe so go the better handling (implicit)... for F1 fan guys.. this very same type of car was driven by Shumi in Fiorano (a must watch video test drive) .. apart from this.. overall it's a practical and very fair car review! TVR vs Maserati not sure.. which TVR type?

@zzhughesd Год назад

I had. 5 years. CambioC Spyder. Enjoyed the car. Not enjoyed the car. The brand drips in history but recent cars are too FCA Fiat trim woes. They no longer wow. I didn’t find rust problems. Roof clip broke. Clutch’s wear on light use 20,00030,000 miles. Skuttle shake correct. It was very skittish drive. Looks. Engine note and engine bay visual is why you buy the 4200 series. Not the drive.

@poovaneswaranvsupramaniam35 Год назад

Nice review.....pity affected by the horrible scuttle shake

@farishanafiah8461 Год назад

4200 Spyder with manual gearbox is definitely my choice.

@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland Год назад

What a beauty !

@cirian75 Год назад

sounds like its needs some aftermarket bracing.

@andybroer651 Год назад

I'm looking to swap my 1972 TR6 for a 2003 6 speed manual. I figure scuttle shake will be about the same, but would rather have the Maserati sitting in the garage late at night and on a Sunday drive in the California sunshine. Thoughts?

@brianiswrong Год назад

Do the aftermarket do a cross brace for the chassis? We had a saab convertible and when I had the aftermarket spider frame added to the chassis it reduced scuttle shake dramatically

@WillThePlank Год назад

I was wondering if that was something you could get, I know also on the MX5 you could get some inserts that go into the door latches that also reduces the scuttle shake.

@ChristianHiroseRomeoGraham Год назад

One of the only decent modern Maseratis made. I'm generaly not a Maserati fan at all, but this gets a thumbs up from me.👍

@richardgrace3482 Год назад

One of the ‘only’ 🤔. Facelift 4200’s & Gransports are exceptional, as is a QPV GTS, Granturismo S MC Shift, GT Sport, Stradale, QPVI GTS and a 3200 AC. So this is one of the ‘only’ ones that aren’t any good.

@ChristianHiroseRomeoGraham Год назад

@@richardgrace3482 This was only coming from a non-Maserati Fan.Of course, you'd like many Maseratis because you're a fan of it.

@johannjohann6523 26 дней назад

Boy that driver window just shakes the entire time you are driving it. Not good. A stiffer chassis would also help the car navigate the turns better. But you are right, it shakes like a car from the 80's. And given the short wheelbase you'd think it would handle much better. Maybe new Bilstein shocks would make a difference? Or is that what is already on it? lol

@drivinivan 8 месяцев назад

Nice, honest review of the Spyder. Mine has the Vintage Package, Fabspeed Exhaust, and the Drive By Wire System. Here's my Drivin' Ivan Review and Buyer's Guide: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zBN3dtC0Ujs.htmlsi=D3LD2tUx2e9qZwwb

@allimikej Год назад

My father in law purchased one in very good condition . Sold it after two summers . Maintenance nightmare .

@sexytasmin Год назад

Nice SILVER wheels James.

@RzogL Год назад

Good looks, great engine, posh interior. 1.7 tons though...

@seinsmeld13 Год назад

Giddy up Batman.😁

@mariosadamou9632 Год назад

I had one… engine fantastic when the rest of the car would work. You never knew when it would and sometimes it fixed itself or broke down on its own whilst garaged. Never got another one is like the horny ex who was good at the time but not the long term

@aaronjacobs462 Год назад

I know its a safe shout but have you tried the SL from that era? I have a 350 that while isn't the most powerful thing it's definitely no SLK

@johnsampey344 Год назад

What about a full rebushing ? Would that help ? It's just very hard to imagine the Italians turning out a less than perfect Sports Car.

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

They've done it plenty of times before

@martinm964 8 месяцев назад

How about a Abarth 124 Spider?

@MolotovAustralia Год назад

The underbody cross braces must be loose. Also a strut brace. I have a roadster (another brand)

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

It's a well known issue with them

@ak203 Год назад

Those prices are dirt cheap. You could do a full chassis mod and still be half the price of a 911 of the same vintage. So at that price, why complain?

@Sonnymonster Год назад

James, you could do a thoroughly entertaining video using facial expressions only👍💙

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

I think a few people might prefer that!

@ciaran8306 Год назад

I have a 2005 spyder and don't find the scuttle shake any worse than any other convertible I have owned. You kept it in sport mode which hardens up the suspension a lot, and this is why you may find shake increases and also you put the roof down and this also will add to scuttle shake. It seems your goal was to trash the car as much as possible, which is very vindictive of you. A convertible will normally have a softer suspension to avoid scuttle shake, which makes the Maserati spyder quite unusual as it has the feature which makes the suspension very hard. Why don't you do another review and keep the roof up and switch it out of sport mode and show people how the car is no different than any other convertible. You should have given a review of both options.

@martinboulden4388 Год назад

There’s so many reasons to buy one but just one not to - Maintenance Costs ! I came very close recently and woke up before i embarked on getting my bum slapped !

@richardgrace3482 Год назад

Buy a good late one you’ll be fine. Or buy a late coupe or Gransport as it’s 10x better.

@JulioEMora-ou7xh Год назад

The scuddle is the lockup torque converter is out of balance or drive shaft?

@04dram04 Год назад

The dashboard on this is beautiful

@R-Tap Год назад

If a Maserati sounds bad then it's broken. Saw and heard my 1st MC20 at the weekend, sounded magic. What about putting it on air?

@chintetshing1668 Год назад

👏👏👏👏👏

@leehockenhull9871 Год назад

Bet it’s stiffer with the roof up, I speak with experience with a old c70

@mirkomasini Год назад

Just bought a2002 with 21k original miles Wondering about the noise I hear in rear from shifting.. Is that normal?

@cookiedad6056 Год назад

Nice affordable convertible, slightly different, reliable and fun: BMW Z1. Or too safe choice?

@JayEmmOnCars Год назад

I quite like the Z1! Shame they're all LHD

@reitsmaassociates Год назад

Love Joe Welsh for telling us what to expect 😅

@04dram04 Год назад

I had no idea the spyder was shorter.

@robertmenghini.Lambomad Год назад

I owned a spider for years, the chassis was terrible, especially when you accelerate round corners! I think it’s because they chipped the roof off! The engine was glorious!