su espiritu volvio a ver al mounstro que se habia transformado su ultimo dialogo luego de su reinado de muerte y destruccion fue "solo veo oscuridad ante mi" la codicia de la espada frostmoure le carcomio el cerebro con el poder recibido de esa energia oscura
If you listen closely during the anduin theme, you can hear the same words that were spoken in Arthas my son. "An Karanir Thanagor" Long live the King. Good Job Blizzard.
To think.. Arthas turned because he wanted to save his people. He did everything he could to save his people, and it backfired. He went mad and ended up becoming something he shouldn't have. Anduin lost his father, twice (His father was taken before. Remember?) and during the cinematic, it's hard to believe how much Anduin looked like Arthas... It was interesting. Will Anduins will to save his own people backfire like it did with Arthas? Is he willing to sacrifice everything, to help and save his people?
Wasn't there a theory that the reason the Scourge stayed in Northrend was because the human side of Arthas was still fighting against the control of the Lich King?
Well, it is not a theory, rather a statement by Uther's spirit. In The Halls of Reflections he says to Jaina "I suspect that the piece of Arthas that might be left inside of the Lich King is all that hold the Scourge from annihilating Azeroth". I'm rather sad that we were not presented some form of redemption for Arthas. It's not like he wanted to become a monster. As you perfectly said it, his wish to save Lordaeron backfired and he went mad. For Light's sake, we don't even get a tomb or memorial place/statue for the one who was our Prince. As for Anduin, no, I do not think he will share Arthas' faith. Anduin has Velen, Greymane and more importantly, us, to watch his back and lead him on the good path. I get the feeling Anduin is going to represent exactly what Arthas could have been if he would not have been consumed and corrupted by The Lich King. At least that warms my heart.
Unfortunately, is it merely a rumor. No statue, no words engraved, no word of compasion or understanding lie upon the stone to mark the fact that the said tomb is the last resting place of the prince of Lordaeron. Everyone wants to forget him, even though during his life (especially as a paladin) he did a lot of good and he was a merciful, just and beloved man.
Ah, the touching tragedy of the hero and champion of his people who became damned in the process of wanting to do the right thing. There is just something so epic about this whole thing... Blizzard gave us that pivotal tragedy which to my knowldge has never been told before in quite the same way. You just WANT Arthas to come back as a hero (at least if you have played Reign of Chaos and managed to connect with him), but I also think the fact that he was never saved, never redeemed himself, makes the tragedy of his initial character, the one who was truly beloved by his people, that much more intense. Redeeming Arthas would have given a sense of closure and would probably have gone over well in general, but it would also have lessened the tragedy as a whole; as it is today it is truly beautiful.
If they ever do decide to address Arthas's story, i hope it's only about bringing him some final measure of peace from darkness his soul is currently in. Anything else i feel would tarnish his story.
I got them both...😎 Invincible on the 6th attempt... Headless horseman after 2 years attempt, got it on the 1st try... Yeah, made my guildmate jealous....a lot! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
One prince fell and became a vilified monster. The other rose and became a beloved king. The difference between them was that one was abandoned by those he held dear at his most dire and vulnerable moment while the other had brothers and sisters to stand with him when he needed them most, for good or for ill. Reflections of the same spirit, the same soul, separated only by time and choice.
One interesting callback is that moment SPOILER ALERT when Anduin walks into the vestibule between the entrance and the decaying throne of Lordaeron. The cinematic pauses, gazes upon the broken church bell and plays the exact same theme that played when Arthas paused in that same spot before murdering his father and destroying his home city.
there is a timeline in a novel by Christie Golden, when WC3 does not happen. in that case Varian is best man to Anduin at his wedding to Jaina. Golden is poking at Blizzard with her idea here; she lets Thrall die and nothing evil happens afterwards. Orcs are useless and of no significance to Azeroth in the timeline; Kel'Thuzad also had better things to do than to become a Lich.
Following in Arthas's footsteps in Legion as a death knight has been one of the most impactful things I've seen in the lore. _There must always be a lich king._
Uther and Jaina utterly abandoned Arthas and Lordaeron at Stratholme. He had NO choice, they could have at least quarantined the townsfolk into a building and killed them after they turned. But no, they just split.
True justice is blind. It is impartial and objective. Uther failed to do the right thing when time called for him to do so, he let his heart get the best of him, and so did Jaina. When a flock of sheep suffers disease, the shepherd has no choice but to cull. A few must die for the many to survive.
His strength didn't fail, and that is exactly why the Lich King wasn't able to overrun Azeroth. What was left of Arthas was holding the Scourge back to buy time for the living.
i think his point is that he still wants to play the game but the game is completely changed and has absolutely nothing to do with wotlk and the previous expansions. yes there are private servers but thats the past
Anduin never wants to be anything like Arthas, yet if he is unwilling to make the tough choices that Arthas was willingness to make. He may fall to a much worse fate than what Arthas had fallen.
If Arthas was to come back as his first self but having learned his lesson, I would forgive him. But if he came with the same character flaws that led him to frostmourne in the first place I would consider him dangerous.
Lightning33 not likely, given the end of the Anduin comic. But, I think that Anduin will probably face a lot of the same choices that Arthas did: only he'll make different decisions. So in that way, I think their stories will be similar.
I completely agree, if Anduin was like his father he would've took the same path like Arthas. However, he is a scholar and controlled Varian's aggressive and irrational actions. Such as stopping his father from killing Moira Thaurissan.
+AzureSupremuZ Yes but Arthas was Real Fighter! Lets hope Anduin will also become Paladin like Arthas and Will take Lodaenor back again😣.Lets hope he will fullfill Arthas's destiny not as lich king but As Paladin that Uther saw in Arthas ♡Hope!
I went straight to this video after finding out that Mike Morhaime is officially stepping down as CEO of Blizzard... I am so sad, yet so grateful for everything Mike has done to build such an amazing Blizzard Universe. Truly, no other company comes close to my love for Blizzard.
Its coming next week and thay said it will be as good as the previous ones. Thers even a character like Arthas and thers different endings. XD. Just joking ofc.
This song stirs me still, with the same intensity as the first time I heard it. I've got my own take on Arthas, and even tho it isn't canon that's the way I choose to remember this childhood favorite. Not one WoW character - and there's a plethora of great ones - come close to the LK.
What would have Anduin to tell Arthas if they ever meet, and viceversa? If you think it closely. They are both opposites, different sides of the same coin. Anduin is a positive Arthas while Arthas is a negative Anduin.
Well before his fall, in the Arthas: Rise of the Lich King book, he and Varian were good friends and when Anduin was born Arthas, to me at least, appeared to have been something like a potential uncle to him but we never see that fleshed out. I would like to see Arthas say something to Anduin about Varian and about how he has grown
Just imagine at the end of Shadowlands just as Bolvar is about to put on the restored Helm of Dominance, Anduin stabs him in the back, says "Now we are one" and puts on the Helm.
Classic WC3 characters obviously had a lot of thought put into them. Arthas is the best example for the sole fact that his legacy still resonates strongly with players and fans alike since WC3 as well as WotLK. Jaina is another one, who went through major character arcs to her newest development in BFA. Varian was more of a catalyst that also set up a great potential story for Anduin, following the echos of Arthas. Blizzard always loved the alliance over horde because in comparison, not letting Sylvanas die when she killed herself at the end of WotLK was a cop-out. Thrall's journey and sacrifice throughout Cata was one dimensional and didn't carry any emotional weight. Garrosh, who went through significant character development from WotLK through MoP ultimately got crippled and came to a screeching halt thanks to an ass-job shit tier story presented in WoD because Activision-Blizzard was in full swing then that killed the WoW momentum for good. And look what they did to Baine and Vol Jin. Barely any development, killed off thanks to ridiculous fan pandering. The horde had a good base which was Thrall's struggle to unify the horde and live in peace, but once he fell out of the picture, the horde was forced to turn into what it is now and I'm truly saddened. To me, Jaina is the final real character of the warcraft universe and I only pray that she gets a respectful ending or doesn't get cucked like Tirion did at the start of Legion. It's just impossible to see a role reversal where Alliance is bad and Horde is good in a conflict because that's not how they were originally designed to be.
There are few characters in the Warcraft Universe that have done hardly any wrong. One of the only ones (if not the only) would be Tirion Fordring. Arguably the most honorable man to have ever lived as well as the most honorable character. The man who threw away his entire life as a governor, paladin, his wife and child etc. all because he could not kill an old Orc (Eitrigg). As a Horde man myself to the end, there are no others who held honor like Tirion Fordring. God rest his soul. Blizz did him dirty.
TerraOblivion27 agreed. My stomach sank when he was killed at the beginning of Legion. I’m a horde man myself, but I have to admire the sheer will and honor of some alliance characters.
Saurfang had my favorite character arc in BFA. Baine was not shafted as you say. His arc was quite emotional to me. Thrall seems to have more depth than he did before. Sure, Blizzard shafted some characters like Vol'jin and Sylvanas, but they in no means are doing nothing for Horde storytelling. Also, Anduin going forward seems to have just as interesting of a story as the beginning of Arthas' story. Jaina is not the last good character.
Zarozapa CnJ The Horde attacked Stormwind when it was a great kingdom. The Scourge attacked Lordaeron when it was crippled due to losses against the Horde and Scourge. So not fair when you compare the two, Lordaeron is more powerful in its peak.
They are the same thing. The seat of power just changed. Stormwind was in the original alliance aswell. The only difference is in the newer Alliance we have the other races joining other than the Humans, Dwarves and High Elves.
I really hope that they make Anduin a mirror of Arthas. Like Arthas was an agent of death. Anduin could be the agent of life. With Shadowlands leaning heavily on the Light/life vs Void/death then it would be awesome if Anduin became the same thing as Arthas just in the form of the Light.
what if every human king soul who died for the light aimed for a bigger goal ! #LOTR ghosts waves of fury , charging against the ultimate battle... a thousands Souls retribution, enough to awake Azeroth "Hearth" entity.
the light is basically the same as the void, 2 sides of 1 coin you know what the naaru done in draenor, after "we left" ? Light forged Orcs and all those that did say no got slaughtered
It's probably named like it is because both Invincible and Anduin's theme (which is also part of the video) have "An Karanir Thanagor" in their lyrics.
Anduin became King through his father's premature death during the war against the Legion, and Arthas became King (albeit a different kind) by forcefully dethroning the King of Lordaeron, his own father. Not premature in terms of Terenas's age, but more in the fact that Arthas was not ready to take his father's mantle yet in any official manner. Both were unfortunate events.
everyone hopes for his redemption and hope he turns to good. He deserves a second chance. Anyhow light still love him anyway even after he died. like Uther say '' But the Light loves us anyway. It loves us for what we sometimes can rise to in rare moments. It loves us for what we can do to help others. And it loves us because we can help it share its message by striving daily to be worthy, even though we understand that we cannot ever truly become so.''
so I got my own theory that I'm putting below to try to avoid some spoilers for those who are still trying to go through the story at their own pace. Anduin is, in fact, not Varians son, but instead, Arthas' son and near the end when the Jailer and Sylvanas are trying to control Anduin with a new Frostmourne (in this case, Shalamayne, which would now be Shalamourne) Arthas' soul will come out and stop Anduins transformation.
@Episode Update well, the first part already happened, what with the most recent aninatic. Past you didn't believe in the cluster fuck that is Blizzard's story telling enough for them to pull that.
Dafak... Anduin carry the blood of House Wrynn, that is 100% confirmed -_- wow.gamepedia.com/Tiffin_Ellerian_Wrynn Anduin carry his mother genetic more than his father, which explained why he is unlike his father Varian, which explained why Anduin isn't much of aggressive person. I think it's like his mother genetic in him is more than his father. Also, if it is Arthas or Jaina genetic, Anduin would have purged the Horde 100% none of them to be leave alive for sure. After Second War, Arthas had been leading his people to keep hunting the Horde due to the vengeance from the war of past, Second War Invasion.
What a beautiful drawing of Arthas. I used to have one equally as beautiful of Varian Wrynn for my pc wallpaper but it got wiped in an O/S upgrade and I've not found a replacement....sigh
Even though it would be a retcon, it's one of those things that I kinda would love to happen. I think the possibilities that would come out of it and character development for Anduin and Calia would be tremendous. Arthas/Varian/Tiffin/Jaina/Bolvar were all friends growing up, it's not impossible that Tiffin and Arthas hooked up, Tiffin got pregnant and kept real father's identity a secret, or maybe Varian always knew but kept it a secret because of what Arthas had become and didn't want Anduin to know the truth. Anduin has been compared to Arthas many times throughout WoW's history, most notably would be when Garrosh was taunting him by comparing him to Arthas in War Crimes novel, he even slightly resembles Arthas nowadays with the grown up model. Menethil leading the Alliance and taking back Lordaeron aswell as bonding with his aunt Calia would be pretty interesting and also show some of the inner struggle that Anduin would go through once he found out.
It wouldn't be a retcon if Arthas is the father, through an affair, but anduin took his adoptive father's last name, of Varian Wrynn, and he discovers the truth.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." For when Angels fall, they become demons. Arthas let his self-righteous anger cloud his mind and became what I wanted to destoy.
I have a feeling anduin will fall for a similar fate as arthas, but this time fooled by his wish to be like his father, consumed by his desire to avenge him and win the battle for azeroth. Seeing as the horde had to go through their leader being depicted as an antagonist, perhaps it is time for the alliance, the faction who have too often ended up depicted as the pure good guys, to see their rule lead them in a troublesome direction.
antagonist? sylvanas is not an antagonist what in the world made you say that? garosh? yes that right there was an antagonist + this kiddo whose leading y'all seems more corrupt from the inside than a rotten wound
Seems, only if you think he is too good to be true. However Anduin's short history still shines quite bright, plus he has very strong connection to the Light. And Sylvanas, honestly, is a bitch. Tactical genius, likeable, but rotten and that is not even a metaphor.
@@Silly_Illidan yup and his future is still promised, he is a zovaal's puppet right now more than likely we save him and he returns to normal. He isn't the lich king, he is collecting keys for Zovaal.
For some reason since DK were relased I only played a DK, for me the other classes don't exist, only DK, I know that class better than I know me, their lore, mechanics, abilities everything. On Alliance of course, for me to be a proper DK lorewise you need to be Human. I like the concept of first being Ebon Blade then Alliance, Archeus feel like a home for me.
Plot twist:Arthas returns from the dead,he takes back his crown from that guy who replaced him(cant remember his name sorry) rebuilds Frostmourne and tries to convince Anduin that the light is bullshit.
