An Omega Level Mutant Returns (Comics Explained) 

Not the only way. Just the best approach.

@@ephemispriest8069 Only and best are synonymous in this case.

@@ephemispriest8069 wasn’t it the only way tho cause like nobody could stop him so what other approach could they have taken to beat him

That was PIS imo.

@@tristinkennedy1207 They could show him who was really to blame for his wife's death.

Well Krakoa still has a strict no AI policy, so I doubt the council would've allowed it.

My understanding is the power is like a one track mind. Forge gets a prompt and just hyperfixates and solves the problem like a rubix cube. This doesn't make him a smart guy. Things like thinking outside the box and designing variants of Nimrod might be beyond him, at the very least in this story. You see how a small disagreement sets him off while on the mission, he isn't some higher level thinker just a good tinkerer

@@Rhapsodos_X Yeah Forge is definitely not smart like Reed Richards or Tony Stark. He's the mechanic who hits the machine with a wrench and it magically starts working. He can't tell you why it works, it just does.

@@Rhapsodos_X Your understanding is wrong. He is a smart guy. He has superhuman skills at making things. But he is still a very smart guy.

@@kevinmalone4341 He can make things they could never understand how to make though. Making his skills much better than theirs.

They really have been hitting us back with the "This is how you abuse a quicksave"

That's more of a groundhog day concept. I read these books, I'm pretty sure it was called the feedback loop, where the MC was in a live die repeat scenario. Man it was great. Good story, Lotta action.

So what i dont understand is how they even beat the hulk in those simulations if they couldn't even fully annihilate Darwin. I just can't see those children throwing hands with the avatar of toba

If his 'body' isn't aware of the threat or whats coming his way, his powers don't manifest. If you were to shoot Darwin with a sniper rifle a mile away, his mutant powers wouldn't manifest. His brains would paint the walls. If he watched you shoot at him with a sniper rifle his body would adapt and he would either manifest intangibility, or his body would manifest armor that would stop/deflect the bullet depending on how cool the writer wants to look. If you dropped a nuke on Krakoa, if darwin didn't see the bomb drop, he would die in the nuclear blast. If he never perceived hulk and he got the back of his head punched, he would die. His powers only were originally supposed to manifest if he was aware of the threat in his general vicinity.

@@thefallencog Mind you all this is a fan-theory because there have been several times in his comic runs that he was hit with an attack he didn't see coming and still adapted. But it is an interesting limitation.

The only thing that can beat him…Kevin bacon

i know that you're not feeling 100%. i was totally expecting a "but, maaan. maaaaaan, lemme tell you, son" moment to happen right there

Yep krakoan Era is good

Yeah i love powers that are good in certain situations. Makes for good stories.

Also, do you play marvel snap ? It’s not a plug I would just love to play you

Thank you!

That's what we initially were meant to believe, yes, but when you really think about it. How are any of them going to actually kill Laura Kenny or Darwin? The CotV powerful, but those 2 are something else.

I thought they resurrected her after that using the 5 or did I misread?

@@cyberpaisa27No you're correct, they did. Cuz they thought she died.

@@TubezThe1 okay good so that's just say there is now two x23 then?

That's exactly what I was thinking

The older laura is simply banned from Krakoa. Afaik, in most cases of paradox resurrections the quiet council deals with it often times by simply banning the Mutant from the island. Older laura is simply way too important to kill off because of her time in the vault. And the possibility that her powers have evolved over time, as Mutants historically speaking, given enough time always experience secondary mutations, or evolutions of their current mutations. Means that old woman laura is simply too important from an information standpoint. Afaik Laura's healing factor while she was in the vault got dramatically stronger over time, instead of failing or getting weaker. Think there was some silly secondary mutation that also occurred, but i don't recall it. However, to adhere to the laws of the Island, unofficially she will be exiled and monitored. Officially she might be sent into the hole like Sinister a la sins of sinister, until a time can be "proven where she isn't tainted by her time in the Children of the vault"

@@thefallencog it’s not silly. Wolverine’s healing factor would evolve too without the adamantium. Overall this is basically a cloning situation and I can’t wait for them to lose their immortality

@@SuperRONDALE Wolverines healing factor only evolves through long periods of sustained, heavy conflict where the user tends to sustain heavy injuries constantly. This is why logans healing factor went from "days recovering from getting beaten and torn apart" to healing from being disembowled in about a few minutes. If laura/logan didn't have adamatnium their healing factors would have platued in growth, even with extreme external pressures as the Adamantium is constantly forcing the healing factor to work, and thus "maintain" its strength and evolve if being pressured to do so. Without it, its likely it would take pretty extreme measures for it to "evolve"... like spending 250 years in the vault. Where laura's healing factor actually grew considerably stronger to the point where it rival'd logans healing factor pre krakoa due to the sheer amount of constant conflict the trio would be in. However the moment that 'evolutionary pressure' was no longer present, Laura's healing factor dramatically weakened, although a fair argument to be made is that it was "siphoned off" and fed into the evolutionary process of the children of the vault. Back to about what it was before she went into the vault. If not very slightly better.

Yeah life guard has the potential to become omega level

They also overpowered iceman to omega at one point already iirc

Yh, she has the potential for sure. But she'll always be limited by her reaction speed. Darwin powers just do their own thing and he can control it if I'm not mistaken.

Highly doubt it but I'm hoping Vulcan makes a return he was unhinged but not unhinged enough.

@safone9607 No Darwin can't control it! His power reacts off subconscious perception. He won't know until it already happening.

Not really. Darwin's power is to adapt, its an outright ability. The Vaults forces however do not adapt as a matter of ability, they just take what they want and use it to improve. They are just fast learners. The Vault is more like the Borg from Star Trek, incorporating and improving. Now of course the more they improve the better they get at it and because of the time difference they have had a LOT of time to improve. Darwin can do in a second what can take them years to achieve. The ting is with the Vault there is a simple fix and Forge is the answer to it. Its technology at play and Forge can change any technology. In theory Forge could alter the Vault itself and cause it to run time backwards inside, reverting the civilisation inside all the way back to its original state. At that point they could simply blow the damned thing up or just take it apart. Reversing a Temporal Field has been done before in Marvel, many times in fact, so this is not unreasonable. Every problem has an easy fix for Marvel, they just dont want to do it because the threat of the Children is always there and the fans like it.

@@ASavageEye It's by vastly different means, but in order to get a hold of Darwin - whose ability would be hugely benefitial for them to get and exploit - they're actively trying to "adapt" to him in the sense that they're developing technologies for that purpose. Darwin's ability recognizes their efforts as a threat, so the better their means against him get, the more over the top his adaptation becomes. And in turn the Children become more intrigued and put even more effort in, which he again adapts to - spiralling them both higher and higher... However, even with the Vault still around, Darwin would likely lose this immense powers as soon as they safely get him away from there. If it becomes necessary again later, he'll be able to "re-adapt" at that point - but as long as it's no immediate threat to him, there's no point for his ability to keep those adaptations up.

i was pretty young when it came out so i didnt really get into all that, is that when they brought in the traveling carnival thing?

Kind of goofy they're still pushing Laura to have wolverine's name since he's no longer dead, especially now that there's two of her running around. Old Laura should have a different name. They gave the new one a different one after all.

@@torrancemoore6152 Old Lady Laura is Talon, Young Laura is Wolverine, James Howlett is now Logan as his Mutant name

Grim dark? Not even close my friend, you must not know 40k

@@BlackedURsister Good Sir or Madam if you're going to bring up 40k be sure to be specific. Do you mean that Magnus did nothing wrong? That the space wolves hating on the Blood Angels while dealing with the curse of the wolfen themselves? Do you mean the sadness of the primarchs (currently 2) upon returning to see the current state of the imperium? The Tau's abandoning of the Farsight Enclaves to their fate? The silent King moving to consolidate the Necrons. The supposed death of Ole Bale eye to Angron? The potential futile nature of it all because the Tyranids seem to be encircling the whole galaxy? Of what myriam grim dark do you speak in 40k? I was speaking in general of the sadness pile love interests in marvel can be.

@@Gwolfsoun 😂

Slice of life is boring , there is a reason it don’t sell well

Darwin is a god among mortals. He can survive anything, no contest, blowup the universe and he just tanks it without needing any input of it happening.

​@@youtubestudiosucks978 He can't survive Kevin Bacon.

@@1DAR26 he was a black person in a movie made by fox, not even giving him omnipotence would be enough to make him survive "the black guy dies first" trope

@@youtubestudiosucks978 he’s a black guy here too dude

@@SuperRONDALE is this made by fox?

I prefer her older ngl

It amused me. Humanity wanted to kill off mutants so badly they made mutants without realizing it.

@@callmeriggy Factz!!