Ana vs Ben Shapiro: Would Single Payer Healthcare Work In America? 

Shapiro is a liar and Ana got railroaded. Breast cancer is the second leading cause of death worldwide! 5 five years after the diagnosis the survival rate for breast cancer is 83 % in the USA! While it is 89 % for Jewish women and 84% for Arab women; Italy, 88 %, France 87 %, October 15th, 2021.

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They know it will work and they know once Americans know it works and it helps ppl they would never be able to take it away and if they tried it they would have riots on their hands

So many of the mass shootings involve people in need of psychological care....

Are you using Obamacare? Your medical should be almost completely covered at that yearly pay.

what healthcare system?

but on a serious note sorry to hear that

That's sad America is worse then 3rd world countrys I hope you situation gets better

Yeah u rarely see that from the left

@@Nik-gr5lh or the Right nowadays..

theeereee ,just because you wear stupid hat, does not make righteous

@@thelastprophet4578 would have to disagree, I love to debate with people and in my personal experience when u bring up something that the left doesn’t have a rebuttal for they instantly turn to trying bully/insult in to changing your opinion.

@@Nik-gr5lh I can assure you that it's on both sides. It may not be you in particular, but rest assured folks on the right get snippy as well. Even threatening violence at times. I'm just glad that sit downs like this are happening, and I hope to see more. Dragging us all out of our echo chambers.

As a Brit, I went to the doctor few times in the last year (after never having been for years and years). My 3 blood tests were free and the results appeared online for me to check by myself and I got a phone call to explain what were the issues. I pay via the national insurance and it is fine. The system is in trouble with more older people but still works.

Gp visit in the UK free , Australia $70 , USA $200 go figure...

@@steviegbcool I grew up in Australia and I never had to pay a cent to see my GP, not trying to be insulting but where did you get this information?

Also belgian here but homeless. I do fear doctors killing me because I'm poor. They killed my also homeless dad out of gross negligence, they can do the same with me so I never go. Doctors are rich compared to me, and in my view they don't care one bit about poor folks. I'm with cancer, I self-medicate.

@@andredeketeleastutecomplex Het spijt me om dat te horen. Maar je moet geen schrik hebben van een dokter. Ze doen dit werk meestal niet voor het geld. Ze kloppen soms wel overuren, maar dat doen ze omdat ze mensen willen helpen. Kies de dokter die het best bij jou past. Een oudere of een jongere dokter. Vrouw of man, het maakt niet uit. Elke Belg krijgt zorg! Ook mensen die illegaal ons land binnenkwamen krijgen medische zorg als dit nodig is, zelf als ze dit niet kunnen betalen. Ga eerst langs bij de dokter. Daarna bekijkt het OCMW dan ook vlug de situatie en dan komt alles in orde. Ik zou het heel jammer vinden als je niet probeert hulp te zoeken. Iedereen verdient hulp. 👍

still cancer survival here is way higher than scandinavia.

I agree

That sounds awful. I hope your health improves and your pain subsides. Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺

I feel like Ben is lying just to keep the peace. It’s normally much my extreme in his views

really? All I see once again half baked comments from ben with no real answer to the issue proposed. Not even an agreement on what Ana said as being true and necessary.

@@DanteNDigitalis I'd like to see these debates occur on TYT as well, instead of Cenk bloviating and trying to shout down the right-winger, or person he disagrees with. Ana would be a much better debater.

Republicans have no ideology but hate, fear, denial, and contrarianism. Saying that they are included in the spectrum is also not true and insulting. Name a SINGLE POLICY where they use reason, logic and evidence to decide upon a policy position REGARDLESS of where dems/libs/prog fall on that issue. Name a single policy position where they uphold the reasoned position because they arrived upon it as what they think or is the empirical position. Until then they are unworthy to be in the spectrum as they have no means of skeptically interrogating positions, politics, the world and Universe.

@@emperorgizmo3014 this is some of that bloviating I was talking about. Yeah, I'm not a fan of virtually anything the right want...but what's important is that many others who don't fall neatly in the right/left spectrum are at least willing to give the right wing a hearing. These people are "gettable", and the left/liberals should deploy our spokespeople wherever and whenever we get an opportunity to make our case...no matter how much some of us might feel "insulted" debating them. The Trump election...and too many other ones...have demonstrated clearly that the left/liberals/progressives are simply too few in number...or else, too few in certain districts where they're needed...for us to do anything without these other people.

God. It used to be a lot more like this. I would love it if it where like this more again. We don't all have to agree on how things are best done. That's why there is more then one party. But we can't get anywhere with the little kid fights we have been seeing lately. More of this please!

Yea u right but........but them mean spirited politicians in DC ain't gonna do anything MEANINGFUL...........JUST SAYING....SMH

Yes and no because that give legitimacy to them, but while in the rest of the civilized world you have to be a psycho to think that universal healthcare is not a right

@TheHermanCainAwards Debate on policy is what they meant

I wish she had not been apologetic, such as saying what she’s going to say it’s going to make him mad or not like her, truth is truth and needs no apology. And saying that she doesn’t agree with something as opposed to saying that it’s not true and that she can have someone assist her while they are talking pull up the proof. Because he likes to spin people into using what he considers to be threads of logic into biased opinion needed statements. When a plus B plus C doesn’t equal four.

She’s so professional and good at these debates. She could ripe into him but respects the forum.

Same here....had coloncopy and other procedure...i was billed for the tv!! Lol also canadian....they even paid my escort and myselfs cab home as they didnt want me to get on bus!!!

WTF are you talking about these f*cking Groomer pedo's need to be put down did you know that Anna's partner Cenk talks about Beastiality all the time and has even suggested that sex with animals should be legal? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zVR0XLFU9rE.html These idiots need to be driven into the darkest recesses of society and be ashamed to come into the light.

or ppl need to go outside more and actually face humans they keep calling "nazis" for disagreeing even slightly.

Actually I see this as the elephant in the room. They never talk this way about each other on their shows. This makes me think that maybe all that posturing is for ratings only which is also the problem in Congress. A MTG can get lots of donations for talking about Jewish Space Lasers. And I have to admit that when I saw the 2 of them in the thumbnail I clicked for what should have been a no holds barred confrontation. I guess that makes me part of it. However, if it turns out that these 2 are really buddies and this is all part of some type of WWE BS show going on while the country burns, I'm done with them. Change is needed in this country they will never seek it.

@@CarSVernon outrage gets clicks, primate social interaction doesn't work via social media monetization schemes.

Yes, thats the bottom line!

This is not "the bottom line". I'm all for nurses. I'm all for "saving lives". However, money is like a triage center. The reason people do "triage" is because you have limited resources (doctors, nurses, medicine, bandages training, etc...). Money is also limited. Getting UHC is not a magic wand where doctors and nurses suddenly are paid what they deserve, people suddenly get timely excellent quality care and everyone walks away with no debt. Folks this is all MUCH MUCH more sophisticated problem! Come on folks, there are trade offs here. You cannot give 330 million people "Free Healthcare" that is quality, and timely. Wanting a better system than we have now is GREAT! Wanting better outcomes for patients, and affordable treatments...also great! Taking the time to consider the magnitude of the problem, defining the EXACT problems, and then coming up with reasonable tradeoffs in solutions is the only way to handle this.

@@matthewTodd97 completely agree, and the discussion should start with the government using their (our) money that can easily subsidize a universal Healthcare system, especially if we actually tax the 0.01% fairly. We need reform in all areas of healthcare, including more spots for residency and safe nurse:patient ratios nationwide, not just in California.

@@Scar-jg4bn Thank you for your candid and spelled out thoughts a bit. (Hard to do in this format. ;) ) Are you concerned at all that the government subsidizing something might incentivize the wrong things? The government will then be handing the medical system a blank check. If we all know that politicians are often corrupt, and we think that some businesses, and corporations are willing to rip us off, why do you seem to trust that they will use our money wisely? How do we ensure that they don't just waste a huge % of that money on needless administrative costs? Won't they need to ration care in some places? If the millions of Americans who are uninsured, can now get free basic healthcare, won't LOTS more people go to the Dr. for the common cold, and other things? Won't this exacerbate the patient/nurse ratio issues? I know I personally in my family and in my friends families have people once they reach their deductible say, "pshhh I'm just going to get X checked out. I've reached my deductible so now it's "free" anyways".

@@matthewTodd97 valid points, but points that completely ignore the massive amount of people who don't seek primary and preventative care, who then end up in acute care settings, costing much more money and resources than if they had access to basic healthcare in the first place. Regardless, we will always eat the bill; the question is if we want to improve quality of life and reduce unnecessary deaths due to poverty and lack of access to healthcare. There will always be corruption and people adding fees and skimming off the top no matter what under capitalism, that doesn't mean we throw in the towel and don't fight to disempower and regulate those parasites while using tax payer money in an ethical and productive way. Edited due to autocorrect.

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To be fair this voice is outside the hearing range of most people.

That's because most people like Shapiro are nothing more than 🦜🦜🦜

He's interviewing her and providing nuance. What do you want him to say?

@@sethgyan He should just say I agree. But he goes on and on to sound more correct that he actually is. Have you seen the memes? They're on point.

It worked great until Obama and his lobbyists broke it.

@@noigelskram2435 Wrong.

Daahhh

Well said

His perpetually _dry_ wife you mean?

@@waryaawariiri1812 Oh yeah I forgot he hopped on and did his remix of the song. Well someone but a beat over him saying the lyrcis anyway ahahaha

Smh...........

Facts! Majority of Gofundme is medical bills.

@@AbdulKhader-786 derp

@@AbdulKhader-786 🤣🤣🤣

It's a ruse by him. He'll go on his show and say the opposite.

Canadian here and hate the fact that I cannot visit a private clinic or private hospital if I choose. In Ontario, there is no choice and we have to deal with the shitty government run care.

@@clovemartin liar

@@clovemartin if you hate Canada so much then move to usa.

@MohammedAbdulKhader My son's care costs an American(or their work-paid insurance) almost $100k per year. Some of these parents get laid off or targeted for having too many insurance premiums. They want to work and are not permitted. How do you propose I, and others, afford that? I imagine you would just ignore the needy and less-fortunate, as most do. Could YOU absorb that cost in your life?

@@clovemartin Wait, I thought Rob Ford was all about cutting the red tape and making healthcare more accessible 🤣....isn't that why he got a second term? 😳

Thank you for being reasonable and thinking. You need to have a chat to many on your side because it's getting pretty sad the quality of debate and the blatant propaganda being pushed by both sides.

I'm in Ontario cheering you on!

More likely, she's going to put out an attack piece on him, and prevent him from getting through to her audience. After the two debated in 2022, that's exactly what she did. There's no reason to believe anything changed.

Nah, you don't go to shapiro for facts, you go for confirmation bias.

@@kronosx7 As do we all..but some biases happen to be correct.

@@kronosx7 I'm biased towards Truth and reality. Stay free 🙏❤🇺🇸

You should see the comments on Shapiros channel, they loved the conversation.

That should be broadcast on loudspeakers across our Epping country

Canadians come to the USA for medical care instead of waiting in Canada.

@@bartdoo5757 Only if they can afford the massive medical bill before they can even get treatment.

@@Zaquria Who gets billed before treatment?

@@bartdoo5757 yeah because we love overspending on healthcare. Only millionaires will go to the states because they don't want to wait 6months for an elective surgery .

I couldn’t agree more! Now is it perfect? No. Canada is not immune to the budget cuts and threats of privatization. I rather wait in the waiting room than having to choose between my health and my financial situation.

Why do a lot of Canadians complain about the healthcare, but there seems like as many are fine with it?

@@RobertSavage1985 We complain because there are long delays in being seen but still better than paying out of pocket.

@@RobertSavage1985 In my experience when we complain about our healthcare, we want more money to go into it. We want more nurses and more doctors, and most importantly we want less wait time. Since the US and Canada are operating under different systems, I think our complaints get lost in translation.

@@dopeylopey7451 that makes sense.

this is so true

Agreed. An SUV/fast food/sedentary office lifestyle isn't healthy.

Yeah but Ben will actively fight against that positive change since he's in the pockets of the fossil fuel industry and I'm sure would take money from the not so far removed car industry

China is one of those countries and has a population of about 1.4 billion. So, yep, I agree!

That is correct...there is no reason we can't. we have the most income and productivity per capita to draw from....problem is Insurance executives and pharma will lose the largest income pull from any population in the world.

We won't have it for long with the tories still in charge🥲

@@EdwardHohenheim the NHS is a total joke nowadays, built for a high trust cultural homogeneous society with personal responsibility that doesn't exist. It's Nurses this year have proven to be scum, and it's ambulance drivers to quote Kelvin MacKenzie 'vile shitbags', using patients pain for a quick quid. It's management and admin a bloated waste

As an employed and productive American, Obamacare drove up my insurance premiums substantially and exacted punishment for trying to maintain a high deductible emergency plan. It killed opportunities. Why isn't congress on it?

@@noigelskram2435 insurance and pharmaceutical companies drove up their costs, because they wanted to make the ACA look bad. And it works because Americans buy the propaganda/lies.

Yup, #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US is medical bills. You work and save all your life for retirement but lose it all in a medical emergency. ❤️Obamacare as a first step to universal health care like the rest of the developed countries

@@AbdulKhader-786 then move to a country with privatized Healthcare!

@@AbdulKhader-786 Have you ever seen one?

That's because the U.S. has always been a nation that worships "DEATH".

Considering you live across the pond, I expected you to say tea instead of coffee ;)

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Aye. It is a component of healthcare, so theoretically an improvement to healthcare may include an improvement to health insurance. I get what you're saying though; the two are not casually interchangeable when discussing actionable change.

@@kneau I understand your point. Although you can have healthcare without insurance, the reverse is not true.

@@harulestokes6527 hence health insurance falling under the umbrella of healthcare.

@@kneau but you wouldn't consider car insurance a component of car repair.

*Progressive, not quite liberal. There's variations between the two. Everything else, I agree.

All the money has been set aside for defense.

“let” isn’t the word that I would use. It’s not up to us at all, because our politicians back pockets are full with the dirty money from the military industrial complex, and big pharma- and neither of those want us to have health care. One because they want the money spent on them, and the other because sicker people, mean more customers. :/

Because there's no democracy. Lol. People have no say in government. The every 4 year circus is just for show. Lol

@@jimmytimmy3680 unfortunately.

It actually cost 3 bucks parking/gas + the taxes in the background. People forget that.

@@s0515033 I don't forget that. What I pay is minimal compared to what I'd pay if I had to pay fully out of pocket. Some people forget that.

@@JBond-zf4dj I don't disagree. The problem is that it's not actually 3 dollars. That's literally not true. Tax rates are very high to pay for everything. By misleading people into thinking it is basically free, you are giving ammo to the conservatives to call proponents economically illiterate.

@@s0515033 it is true if you're self employed and make under 30,000/yr. I pay out of pocket for dental, chiro, eyes, etc, but nothing for medical. Just prescriptions...which have cost me maybe $15 bucks every five years or more...I rarely get sick / need one.

Well if we don’t buy it they won’t make it. It’s a consumer driven market and if you are willing to buy shit someone will sell it .

Especially how food is priced, cheap unhealthy full meals being more cost effective than organic healthy options.

exactly.

His oligarch handlers won’t keep the money flow going if he says it. Seriously, check out the Daily Wire’s funding, it’s SHADY.

Single Payer Healthcare is just Community Based Insurance for one big community, instead of many small.

@@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm which speaks to the Republican mindset of only caring about those who live next door. Not the whole country.

If you hapen to live in a rich community, you'll be fine. Live in a poor community, you're effed. Good old Ben Shapiro capitalism.

Administration costs for national Soc Sec/Medicare programs a few years back were 3 to 9% as opposed to for-profit insurance companies 15 to 21%. Oh, the inefficiency!! Of what level of community is he thinking?-- single payer by state, by county? But he likely wants insurance-company program admin.

Also Israel Breast Cancer survival is only 1.9% lower than America so not sure wtf he is even talking about.

@@steviegbcool shapiro (just like Crowder and Owens) doesn't know his own stats.

From each according to their abilities, to each according to their need.

Exactly, it was such a mean spirited thing to say. It’s incredibly unfortunate that so many people share the same viewpoint as him in regards to eating and weight gain. It causes a lot of harm to people who suffer from eating disorders and self image issues.

The political hyper-awareness and left and right wing division is so toxic at this point. Humans need to remember how to take care of each other before themselves without losing their minds over the idea.

There is nothing to be understood, Ben Shapiro is a grifter payed by oil billionaires to spew propaganda on their behalf if he was operating off of facts and logic it wouldn't even be a debate about universal healthcare

Totally.. wow, I didn't even notice that. What a worm.

He also then goes on to compare America to Israel. You're only allowed to compare apples to oranges if it benefits your worldview, apparently.

Ok sure, but... why does she?

I'm almost done with the full 2 hour show, and holy hell it's a great watch. They each make great points

Lol

@@ericdodson3630 I watched the whole thing, it’s excellent

If it's chronic it means you are lazy and addicted to poor lifestyle choices... mooch.

Republicans are deeply immoral and dishonest. This won't change until they realign the majority of their parties positions and values with reasoned, logical and evidence based positions. For a party that worships the genocidal jealous hateful maniac God of the Buybull this will not occur until dumbass religion, specifically Christianity is ruined and functionally extinct. Which will be by the end of this century. By then humanity will be massively screwed on the environment to make up any ground we otherwise would have had if not for Republicans. Humanity is screwed in large part because of them. They aren't qualified to serve on a jury, they certainly aren't qualified to have opinions worth listening to on politics or even go about determining who to vote for. Because ultimately they don't care if what they say is true, their beliefs don't matter because they treat everything as a matter of faith. This allows them unlimited freedom to be as hypocrital and dishonest as they want. They still refer to a fetus as a PERSON. When a fetus (nonviable) has no consciousness, no thoughts, feelings and IS NOT a person. Do you think they just overlooked a MASSIVE distinction like that? NOO! They simply DO NOT CARE about reality. They reject it and will believe whatever BS they like. They are experts by now having been brainwashed into religion as young children they are simply transferring and applying their dumbass faith for a genocidal jealous maniac God for politics.

​@@emperorgizmo3014 You should really get off the internet and go touch some grass. To paint a whole group of people (let alone half the country) with such broad strokes is just silly. To think that we are going to rid the world of religion is just silly. Ben is a Jew not a Christian BTW. To think that somehow republicans somehow contribute more to global warming is just silly. I'm generally pro choice, I pay for TYT, and even I think a fetus is a person. Your republican neighbors aren't the problem. Your inability to see the other side as humans who have reasons to believe the things they do is a primary part of the problem. We're not enemies we are fellow country men and women. We all have more in common as regular people than with the wealthy people who make laws to benefit themselves to the determent of the rest of us.

In Canada our healthcare system is extremely mediocre and access is low due to long waiting lists yet people treat it like it is marvelous. Any attempt to reform it, or to reduce the massive bureaucracy, is met with people accusing you of wanting American healthcare.

@@garyaugustus2472 Huh?

@@garyaugustus2472 That's odd, I pretty much hear only the exact opposite about healthcare in Canada.

These conversations are worthless. No one that needs to hear Ana and this little man wil nentuning in to this

Getting sick in Mexico and going to the hospital made me truly understand just how screwed over we are as Americans.

Agree! Your Ben dialogue took me out! 🤣😭💀

This isn't true. The studies that people reference said that a large number of people who filed bankruptcy HAD medical bills, not that they were the cause. The USA also already has medical care or any and everyone who goes to the hospital. We have problems, but those problems can only be addressed with truth.

@@Alex.Holland your one of the repugnant

@@jeffreyhall76 If being truthful, honest, accurate, and wanting to help people makes me repugnant, then I own it.

@@Alex.Holland you’re not being truthful or honest. You’re being repetitive since both those words have the same meaning. The studies for filling bankruptcy all show the number one cause of bankruptcy as medical debt/bills. Some studies have it number two as of recently due to job loss being number one after the pandemic. I’d hardly call your stance of only wanting health care provided to the people who can afford it and allow the bankruptcy to continue, helping anyone. I’m advocating giving our fellow citizens guaranteed healthcare with zero cost out of pocket. You’re advocating doing nothing and leaving our system the way it is. You must be either a wealthy business owner exploiting his workers or one of their boot lickers.

​@@jeffreyhall76 1. Truthful and honest are not synonyms. 2. All those studies you are talking about clearly report that a large percentage o people who file bankruptcy have medical bills, NOT that those medical bills are the largest form of debt. 3. I didn't advocate for anything, you are putting words in my mouth, and you having "good" intentions but being totally misinformed or ignorant wont help anyone, and indeed it is extremely likely your meddling will hurt the very people you espouse to want to help,

Exactly.

Funny.

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Yeah, and not just in politics but all of public discourse in every topic that concerns the public.

It is very refreshing

You took the words out of my mouth. So happy to see this.

Fellow Canadian. Absolutely agree, I could have gone to the USA because I work for a big US company. But because of Canadian healthcare I don't want to go.

There’s a big push in Canada to go private. I hope you guys don’t fall for the same lies Americans do and end up screwing yourselves.

The division is not accidental. We have legalized unlimited campaign donations. Lobbyists own our politicians. However, the poor and average poor outnumber the rich. They use media to divide us and get us to vote against our own best interests. Divide, conquer, and then steal tax dollars. Then the rich move to another country and repeat.