Analogue Super NT Tips - Using the Official Super Nintendo Online Wireless Pad for Switch controller 

Where did you buy it? Because I had to buy mine on eBay tbh

@@rickc-13777 looks like ebay is the place to go still. Analouge is taking a while to restock.

It’s perfect, isn’t it?! Big fan.

@@nermaldigital Absolutely, I use it to play on my super famicom with an 8bitdo adapter just like is shown here. It's completely legit. Best way to play SNES/SFC in my opinion.

I'm just an enthusiast and not a pro like some of the other channels. But my 2 cents, is that the video output options makes it far superior to NSO. Especially the scalers on the Super NT, which do a great job in making some games look more polished Vs the native pixel interpretation on the Switch

Good info. Didn’t know the 2.4ghz wasn’t sold separately. The two look pretty identical from a far though, hopefully our combined info will help others make the right decision.

Super late response but both those adapters I see in your video appear to be Bluetooth...? Hence the red pairing button. I have a lot of 8bitdo products and their 2.4ghz SNES adapters stick out maybe 1/2 or 1/3 as much from the console, plus you cannot pair them to anything but the controller they came with. @@nermaldigital

Yes the NES online official wireless Switch controller does work with the AVS combined with the 8bitdo Retro reciever updated to the latest firmware.

I haven’t noticed any but thats not to say there isn’t some. I would assume the Switch controller is perfect, if any lag it will be caused by the 8BitDo receiver. But I know Mario and DKC2 like the back of my hand, I didn’t experience any input delays. I could set up sloMo camera and try something brutal like Contra 3 for a true test.

If you had to pick one of the other, go with 2.4ghz SN30. If you have the choice of both, like me, then switching between two isn't a prob. But if you have a Switch as well, then perhaps the Bluetooth Nintendo online one is better shout.

@@nermaldigital Awesome, thank you. Currently don't have a Switch so I guess I'll be getting the SN30s. If I ever do pick one up then I'll have to get some SNES Switch controllers too, but looks like they're always sold out 😭

@@PavTheSlav weirdly some of the SN30 controllers are also becoming difficult to get hold of. Try and grab one as soon as possible.

Yes.

@@nermaldigital awesome, thanks!

No, the response is really fast.

Yes, the only controller I can get t work is my SF30 Pro Ultimate controller that looks like a SNES controller but has analog sticks. I purchased the clear black SN30 2.4 Ghz to use with the SuperNT, but it just does not work. It partially works but inly in the player 2 port and only after I have my sf30 Pro controller connected using the 8bitdo bluetooth SNES adapter. It may be that the newer run of Super NT consoles do not work exactly the same, I am not sure. I just got mine after ordering it in 2022.

A mate of mine used the same set up on his original SNES and said he noticed it. I can’t say I did and in the video you can see I’m pulling off fairly precise jumping on Mario. But I haven’t tried filming in SLO mo or anything to show the lag effect. Honestly? I reckon it’s perfectly fine for enjoyment. The Bluetooth in an official pad is going to be pretty solid, otherwise they wouldn’t use it.

@@nermaldigital Thanks for you response, I Ordered the 8bitdo from AliExpress, I prefer the performance, but, I understand that use the Original Nintendo is a good option too. Great Video again.

Yes, I use it on my original system all the time. Works great, it's absolutely perfect.

Aghh I gotta use the BT not the 2.4 RIP

I haven't tried. Some people even here say that what I've demonstrated isn't possible and I'm lying so maybe there's specific receivers you need to make it happen and you just don't have the right one. Maybe, I dunno.

I believe you because the snes one works just fine.

More than enjoyable. No real big noticeable increase in latency. As others have pointed out, the latency from using BT is no more than using an alternative emulation solution.

Are you using the sync button on the bottom of the SNES pad? This is how it worked for me. I even have the SNES pad paired to the Analogue Pocket Dock as well.

@@nermaldigital yes and I tried with multiple Bluetooth controllers. Originally was trying with the switch online snes controller. Maybe it needs firmware update idk? Don't even know how

I updated firmware still doesn't work. Flashes but doesn't actually sync up

@@kylemckyle6464 what's the model number of the SNES receiver you got? Here's the Amazon ASIN of the version I got that works B01JU57ES6.

@@nermaldigital mine has same . Amazon sent ne a return label. I will re order another one give it 1 more shot.

Super Mario World, Super Mario All-Stars and Donkey Kong Country 2

The lag on the Nintendo controller is so small, it’s never going to effect SNES games. Works beautifully. PIs are great for Roms but Retro 5 is not great hardware in any category

@@nermaldigital If you’re happy with a Bluetooth controller, that’s awesome! Nothing wrong with that, but to say it doesn’t effect SNES games is just not true. The lag is there and it’s noticeable if you’re used to playing with an original controller. That’s why I’m confused as to why people use Bluetooth with expensive FPGA consoles. You’d get similar results with software emulation. Here’s a spreadsheet with the measured latency of a bunch of different controllers. These were obtained for MiSTer, but should give a good idea since MiSTer is also FPGA. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KlRObr3Be4zLch7Zyqg6qCJzGuhyGmXaOIUrpfncXIM/htmlview The SNES Switch controller + 8bitdo adapter in this video is line #159. You can see the lag is about three frames. Add your TV’s inherent latency to that and it’ll easily be noticeable.

By this logic, you are still introducing whatever controller lag is present on top of the lag from the emulator. It is all cumulative. Plus, we are still talking different solutions. Pi is software emulation without a cart necessary for the rom, and Retron 5 is also software emulation but requires a cart for the rom. Super NT is fpga coded to emulate the hardware. Some people are adamant about one or the other style, but all of them have their place and you may have more motivations that just controller lag (which is typically low anyway). And before anyone jumps on me about a couple of frames, that is certainly something noticeable assuming someone is comparing it to a less laggy solution. A lot of people just adapt. Same reason Megaman Legacy Collection isn't considered "unplayable" by the masses while the purists scoff.

@@misterkeebler Yeah, you’re still adding lag on top of lag, but if you’re using Bluetooth, I’m gonna assume you’re just not sensitive to lag. The problem with Bluetooth is that the amount of lag varies a lot from input to input so you will never adjust. There just isn’t a consistent amount of lag to adjust to.

@@misterkeebler good info, appreciate the contribution.

It does on all of my super famicom systems. I suggest you try updating the firmware on your receiver.