You have ,without a doubt, the most insightful analysis of this case on youtube. Theres no melodrama, no sob-sistering, no sensationalism here from you. There is a thoughtful analysis of behavior. This is like being in the best psychology class ever with the best professor. Thank you.
I married a mummy's boy like CW years ago so I sort of know what he's thinking during this interview. Because when I questioned my ex about important things he would often say .." what's it got to do with you?" and " why do you ask so many questions?" So I think CW is thinking here....."why do you want to know how I killed them" " why does it matter what happened to THEM?" . All he wanted to talk about was HIS pain, HIS new girlfriend etc. He really doesn't understand why they want to know what happened to the 4 ' insignificant' people he threw away like trash. Even when he was in court he only started crying when HIS mother started talking.
Thanks so much for ur videos and taking time to make them I'm sure it's not easy and maybe difficult explaining your thoughts on this evil monster....I just don't know how he did this to his own lil precious girls and his pregnant wife?? I feel sick tbh rn..Oh you remind me of my late aunt she was a therapist.. Thanks again..
@@kimberlymayes4061 I think he felt shame when they started talking. Every time they talk about emotions or how much they love him or wanting him to fight... he gets uncomfortable and starts talking about the time running out on the call or whatever. I guess he knows they're judging him and he hates it like she says. I also dated a guy like this. Mostly because everyone thought I should because 'he was the nicest guy'... but damn... did he have a secret dark side. And he lied about any and everything no matter how much proof you had or no matter how insignificant the lie was. He was SUPER concerned w how others saw him & his good guy reputation. I will never, ever date a guy like that again. They are not just magically more calm than the rest of us... they just stuff their feelings down & harbor resentments to the point they feel justified in whatever they do to you... and they will do stuff to you... even if you're never aware of it. 'Accidents' will happen around these people. I've seen this repeatedly in this personally type. I prefer to see people's emotions and know what I'm dealing with. Never again for me.
Is crazy and scary to see someone like him gotten so "far" in life without been noticed for who he really is. Having a decent job, married with children. Is scary to think he could pulled that off for so many years. Makes me wonder how many people like that we are surrounded by. Sociopaths and plain evil people.
A lot more than most could or would want to believe. It's def scary. And being super nice is a huge red flag. I learned that the hard way. Most people aren't super bright and just go by the surface things they see. They don't look deeper or beyond the obvious. It's scary for real.
@@theshadylady1982 Yeah, I know a psychopath, and it's a creepy thing. Do you think Sha'naan knew what he was, or just turned a blind eye, because she needed support for the kids? She was an intelligent person, so I believe the signs were all there...I mean, for 8 years, and she didn't know this stuff....that can't be.
Shanann helped Chris hide his true self by giving him a role to play and being the adult who ran his life. He absolutely required help to function in society.
This is an excellent deconstruction of CWatts. When viewing his incapacity for love, his thoughts and words and actions make sense. He is transparent to you. You can see right through him and your insight is amazing.
Had not serendipity, victim friend Nicole, and police work so quickly and thoroughly exposed Watt’s uber-crime, your insight into perp’s mind could be invaluable to prosecution
Layla W - But I should hope not in the same small room (Did you notice the size of those Bureau folk?). I’m suggesting she offer services as expert advisor and/or witness
Layla W - also, the interview soundtrack doesn’t capture tactics the cops use in the interrogation room, like physically cornering him, but mostly playing ‘good cop’ to gain his trust
I have ALWAYS thought that CW's call to the girl's school was motivated by financial reward. EVERY SINGLE thing he does is to BENEFIT HIMSELF, just like the calling of the realtor. He was just moving on. He was ready for the next life. A truly scary man INDEED!!!
He may have a high level of mechanical intelligence and a good memory, but he is shockingly inept at communication. Women do tend to be more verbally sophisticated overall, but he sounds like Forrest Gump. I don't think it's intentional on his part.
Jaykay I agree. I wish he talked more about the fights they had, it would have told us a lot. Please remember everyone he says he's a great liar. He lied to the teacher and had her believe he went to China for the summer. He is working these people. He thinks he is the smartest in the room. He just goes with whatever the detectives say.
Yes and one of the police officers is smart enough to adapt his way of talking about the horrors to make CW feel more comfortable to share the truth. The officer says something about choking, pushing her into the seat - "that kinda thing". That's good police work to me. The officer could have also been concerned with sounding terrible himself but revealing the truth was the priority, like how it should be.
I think his severe inability to communicate is connected with his turning to murder. He had life problems that he had no capability to deal with, and couldn’t figure it out. He was overly agreeable and pliant, especially with women. He seemed unable to talk things through with his wife in a mature manner. He turns to violence, instead of approaching his problems. A stunted, distorted human being with terrible rage, and a “nice guy” persona on top of it.
Hi guys! I put out 2 videos today because otherwise it would have been quite a long video. But people were going straight to part 6 so apologies if this has been confusing. I'll put out part 6 separately now so that people don't miss out on part 5. Part 6 is just under 14 mins long and I'll put it out in the next day or two. As I said about the last one, I'm sharing my opinion about what happened and giving my reasons why. Do keep sharing yours! :) Update: Part 6 is up now!
@@MA__ Aw! Sorry, I wanted to because I only separated them to spare people from having to focus for too long. But I don't want people to miss this one and only see the shorter one...
So we hear almost a sobbing sound in his voice when CW is describing his murders of the girls. Given that he had NO EMPATHY WHATSOEVER for his children, this "sadness" is just a complete charade -- he's just pretending to feel sorrow. All he is showing us is how manipulative a sociopath really is. (I almost feel lucky that I am a widow in my sixties, with NO DESIRE AT ALL to have another "relationship"!) Thank you again for your very insightful videos!!!
My children and I escaped a man just like him. Unlike Shannan I saw the warning signs and got out. After the way he treated her in NC in her own parents house, I would never have gone home with him, and certainly never left my children alone with him.
@Southern Gardener I am very sorry you have been through this. My sister was suddenly and shockingly widowed two years ago. Her man died of cancer 4 days after the diagnosis, before they even had time to absorb this terrible news. Before that she had been single for 20 years, having only known narcissistic abusers and sociopaths. It was a miracle, and even I couldn't believe it, that after all that time alone, she met a gem. In the hospital before he died, the nurses told my sister she was his everything. And she really was. She will never have another relationship, like me, who hasn't even dated for 20 years. Yet she is beautiful and funny and intelligent and men love her.........I feel for you. I hope you find peace and have good friends around you.
@Southern Gardener Thank you. I am sorry to hear you lost the 3 people closest to you in such a short period. I can only hope you have good friends around you like my sister does and they are a great support for her and are helping her live again/ Bless you.
He really doesn’t understand that we can see he is lying. He expects us to believe what he says when he says things like “...I said...I don’t remember what I said”. So bizarre and chilling.
Lying again. The reason he put them in separate tanks was because if the level of the oil changed by putting two in one tank could cause an alarm to go off back at the company. He knew exactly what he was doing.
@Penny Red Yeah, you get a bit numb to it, then an image or feeling hits you. And this guy is pretty much ramped up on cleanliness, so it reveals his distaste for them, such a horrific gesture.
@katherine harvey Canceling the kids nursery school membership, calling the real estate agent not even an hour after disposing of the bodies......looking up the price of an Audi car......
@Brexit Monger It's pumped in, usually by a tanker truck. I haul a reefer (refrigerated big rig) but we have a tanker division and I believe the oil is either pumped off from a truck and/or pumped off into a pipeline. He would have to put them in the top hatch. For him to have put them in the "thief hatch" which is on the bottom of the tank, the tanks would have to be drained first. Also, you are correct about putting them in separate tanks. That was to ensure the levels were almost similar and wouldn't alert Anadarko due to the different levels. My friend who drives for the oilfields told me that there are definitely monitors on those tanks for levels for safety reasons (OSHA) and would have sent a signal to Anadarko. I can't imagine what the workers had to go through pulling them out. They had to drain the tanks first. So tragic and sick!!!
Battery lyrics by Metallica: Total narcissistic rush. He had NO emotion to then listen to this type song after murdering two little babies and a pregnant wife? To look this song up after leaving the place you dumped your murdered family. I love Metallica and I never studied the lyrics until now. WOW. Just wow!!! Vile. Battery: Lashing out the action, returning the reaction Weak are ripped and torn away Hypnotizing power, crushing all that cower Battery is here to stay Smashing through the boundaries Lunacy has found me Cannot stop the battery Pounding out aggression Turns into obsession Cannot kill the battery Cannot kill the family Battery is found in me Battery, battery Crushing all deceivers, mashing non-believers Never ending potency Hungry violence seeker, feeding off the weaker Breeding on insanity Smashing through the boundaries Lunacy has found me Cannot stop the battery Pounding out aggression Turns into obsession Cannot kill the battery Cannot kill the family Battery is found in me Battery, battery Circle of destruction, hammer comes crushing Powerhouse of energy Whipping up a fury, dominating flurry We create the battery Smashing through the boundaries Lunacy has found me Cannot stop the battery Pounding out aggression Turns into obsession Cannot kill the battery Cannot kill the family Battery is found in me Battery, battery Battery, battery I can tell you Metallica would be sickened that this loser did this and then got a sick rush off of their song, after doing what he did. That is all it was, as you say. A sick rush to feed his ego and supply. SO invincible he thought. Twisted. I picked up on the tone change when he went from that heartbroken despair tone to matter of fact tone. He sure is an evil under the calm type. Scary.
lanne71 how about the fact that NK suggested he hear that song?? Sounds to me like she knew of his plans to annihilate his family and her gift to sick Chris was to provide him that song??
Renee - after listening to bossy NK interviews with the police and her somewhat versed responses. I will never rule her out. Her telling them to leave Jim out of it, like she is running the show. She did not want to be johnny come lately. She didn’t want to bond with the girls. She wanted chris’s undivided attention, which serves the narcissistic mother role replacement which was his familiar. His adamant response about no way shannan or anyone went through the back of the house would make me wonder what part that backyard played in these murders.
Renee - you know what stood out in those lyrics - turned into obsession. That was NK. Do you think she was physically involved? Or Provoked, taunted and encouraged? I mean he is responsible, but she may be too. If so, I would certainly hate to see her walk away like casey anthony 😡
L H I have no doubt in my mind that she was responsible. She is a total sociopath who preyed on that family and knew exactly what she was doing. It was all a sick game to her to see how far Chris would go to show his "love" for her. She is a sick viper and I hope she eventually faces the law.
Before I start part 5, I just wanted to leave a comment about how refreshing it is to hear this jailhouse confession broken down by a professional! Your videos have given me great insight about narcissism and who are narcissists and I just really appreciate these videos and I hope you keep them coming! I got a ding today from the notification bell that you uploaded this video and I had been waiting for it! Thank you for all your work! ☺️
It's simultaneously fascinating and sickening to hear this narcissist talk. He has such a complete lack of empathy for his victims. There's hardly a word about how he made them feel. This is all about him. I've always believed this was premeditated. His actions before and after point to him wanting to do this and wanting to get away with it. After the murders and disposal of the bodies he went to work (with his lunch) and by all accounts acted normally. There was no freakout, no suspicious behavior, no sign that he had just been through a 'traumatic' event. He had his mask on, big time, and he believed that if he played the part of the doting husband and father he would get away with it.
I can explain it WATTS ENJOYED torturing his family physically emotionally spiritually and drive them to despair so he could see how powerful he was in their eyes until death.....
He has no regrets. He lives this. I think that if he hadn’t been caught he would kill again and again because he loved the excitement and the thrill he got from it.
I don't believe this was his first time but, has anybody ever checked unsolved crimes in his area while he was growing up? Was things like this, what he was begging god for forgiveness? These were his kids, how many strangers has he practiced on? This isn't normal but, he started somewhere earlier on. After he confessed sitting there with ronnie he says out loud "god forgive me" but he never finishes and you can't help but wonder if this is what he did in his youth and they covered up?
Such sadness overcomes me. Thank you for honoring the victims in this way. Sounds like his wife and children were lovely people. He didn't deserve so much kindness in his life. He destroyed beauty.
Thank you for sharing your incredible insights! If I listen to anything pertaining to Chris Watts, it's your videos ONLY!! You make sense of an unbelievable crime! Thank you ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
How are you NOT a criminal psychologist?? You have amazing skills and you point out stuff that nobody else has ever pointed out!! Love this channel sooooo much!
That SOB has no problem in speaking about Bella's upper lip/gum being torn. He acts surprised when they describe the condition of Ceces' and Bella's bodies when removed from the batteries. He does not appear to be affected by his crimes. What a COWARD!
samira dasa me too. I would have loved to hear the conversation between the 3 of them after they left the prison! I’m sure they all needed a stiff drink after the things they heard 😥
@Ink Spots I guess they found no evidence she was involved. I don't think they would let a murderer of three people just walk away if they thought for ONE MINUTE she was involved. Believe, me,, I am no fan of NK and I think she pushed and pushed and manipulated Chris until she pulled him away from Shannan and his family. She was THE MAIN reason he did this, but if all of us suspect her involvement, then you know the cops did as well. I don't think they would just let her walk free if she had That's just my opinion.
I had never understood why a narc parent turns on their children until you pointed out how Bella was an empathetic child-that is so pivotal for me-thank you so much. I always wondered why I was the target of my mother's rage-it was so hurtful to not know why-for all of these years, too.
The coldness he displays when discussing the damage done to Bella's mouth (I have a hard time even typing that) tells me everything about him. He disgusts me. Those detectives have such control.
If he truly wasn't in his right mind at the time , he wouldn't sound so nonchalant in this interview. At no time does he come across to me as upset let alone traumatised. ..
I have a book called "The road less traveled" and the author, Scott Peck describes evil as an inability to see the truth. Is Chris evil or am I demonizing?? Its so disturbing to hear CW talk about killing the girls! My heart is so heavy 😢
Juanita Richards ...wow! A true monster. I’m guessing he killed her the same way he did with Shan’ann, he pinned her hands down with his knees while he choked her.
Wow your analysis makes so much sense. CW is truly a MONSTER!!!. It's heartbreaking/horrific to imagine what he did to the girls. Yes he had no empathy towards the girls coupled with lack of remorse. He's just concerned about himself and how he is perceived. I hope he gets his twofold while incarcerated, bc he doesn't deserve anything less. Can't wait until your next video.
Even though it hurts im so glad she talked about what the girls went through, i havnt heard one you tuber talk about the girls really and thats what truly matters. And the fact he had no remorse!
The autopsy showed that both girls were smothered by a bare hand, not any fabric. Also, the kids blankies were not found anywhere at the site (he claimed they and the kids toys blew away in the wind up on the walkway), but in the police cam videos on the first and second day of the search we can see a blue Yankees blanket on the black sofa in the loft, and another like it in the corner of the main bedroom, where he had pulled all the bedding off. But Cece's blanket was a soft fluffy pink and white one her grandmother Sandy had given her. It was found in the big wheelie bin in the garage, along with dolls, toys, a sippee cup etc (which police filmed and photographed but did not remove for testing......in the next days police cam we see it out by the kerb for the garbage men......cops walked right by it numerous times. Then it was emptied and all that evidence lost......and there was another folded pink and white blankie in Shannans office.........on her desk. So what blankies did he take out to the site to smother them with? It never happened.....
@Moonbeam444 Not fabric patterns imprinted on the face when applied by force which is what happens during smothering. When they found Ottis Tooles car, they found the imprint of 6 year old Adam Walshe's face in the carpet, and it showed the agony of his death throes. The investigators were shocked and sickened. O'Toole confessed some time after the crime but died before they could charge him.
Wow, you must be a mean bridge player with that brain of yours, lol. I can't fathom how much evidence you must have combed through to get all those details. Your comments are often enlightening.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 I'm an obsessive details person. I've never played bridge in my life and am not good at cards anyway - no interest. I love word games and trivial pursuit - and reading, an absolute obsession - especially true crime, forensics and FBI profilers work. John Douglas, FBI profiler, has a YT channel. It's utterly fascinating. In one of his books is the quote "Beware of looking into the abyss, for it also looks into you". FBI profilers look into the abyss and often burn out young........
@Juanita Richards there were no fibres found in the girls' lungs but this apparently did not mean they couldn't have been smothered by a blanket. There aren't always fibres left in people's bodies when they are smothered. The blanket he claims to have used was blue and was not the one left in the garage or in the house. He dumped some of his clothes on the way home so I wonder if he may have dumped it off with them.
Absolutely premeditated. As you said he planned to go home after work and clean up. I have followed true crime stories all of my life. This case and CW actually upsets my stomach. A physical reaction. At the disbelief of someone so coldly killing his wife but those two innocent babies. I hope God has mercy on his soul. All of your analysis of this case have been 100% accurate. Thank you for helping us understand someone like this.
Chris Watts: “I don’t know if I said ‘yes’ like a horrible person...” I think he said more than ‘yes.’ I think he may have taunted Bella about what he did to Cece and their mother, and teased her about what he was going to do to her. To me there’s virtually no doubt he psychologically tortured her before callously and cowardly snuffing out her life. And I agree that his reason for doing this was in retribution for the slight that Bella’s genuine virtues inflicted upon him (likewise Shanann and Cece). This narcissistic nitwit managed to play the nice guy for most of his life, but to me it’s obvious from the family’s uploaded video archives, that he was just mimicking the ‘nice guy’ behaviours he’d observed in others. There was no feeling of genuine pathos in those videos, and there’s no feeling of genuine remorse in his confession, despite its heinous, brutal, and cowardly nature. I have to say that Shanann’s parents are much better people than myself because I wouldn’t have flinched in seeking the death penalty on this monster.
Ryan Capper I agree, I don’t think Bella calmly stated, no daddy. She had to have been screaming in terror. Then I think he smacked her in the head a couple of times. The autopsy on Bella stated she had abrasions on her face. My daddy is a ZERO.
I would be interested to see if they would have felt the same way re: the death penalty if they knew all of these details now revealed about how the murder went down.
The moment on the Netflix doc when CeCe says "I love school " when Shanann says its time to go to school is heartbreaking. The fact the monster disenrolled them and didn't give a shit, makes it even more poignant.
I definitely believe one child or both were alive, in that truck, and he very possibly is telling the truth about the sequence of events. I also feel very strongly this was all premeditated no matter which way it actually played out. However, I do believe there is one thing in his twisted mind, that would be worse for him to admit than what he says he did, which is that he planned to do this crime at least a few days ahead of time. He very desperately wants everyone to believe he was provoked and went into a rage, was not in complete control/he was brainwashed or manipulated into this horrible act. Because, he “is not that person”.. and all he cares about is what people think of him. He wrongly believes the story he tells is a convincing one for uncontrollable rage. If he admits to killing one or both children before Shanann got home, there goes his uncontrollable rage/not in his right mind defense.. as to why this was just a mere blip on the screen of his miserable perfect life. This scenario he tells means he can pick up the Bible and go back to PRETENDING to be Mr. Nice Guy!
Exactly! And he had help. The grave was dug prior to the murder (it would have taken hours to dig the grave by hand) and he planned to go back to their house and gather up her things and the car and then drive it out to the site and cause an explosion to cover it up. He would have claimed that Shannan drove out there with the girls to try to find him and they were caught up in an accident (similar to the previous Anandarko explosion). He and NK planned it and knew to put each child in different tanks so that the monitors and levels would not register. There would have been no evidence. I feel that Jim and NK were accomplices. CW is too weak of a person to do all of this himself.
Yes, it's good to see you back, and with a double bill. Seeing your work is always such a thrill. Heard Creepy Chris many times now, but you shed new light. I always look forward to your deep insight. Able to sense motives and separate truth from lies, it is a wonder one so young can be so wise.
I believe Bella saw or heard Cece being killed, but at home. I believe she ran and tried to hide under her bed and was dragged out.......the trauma dog alerted hysterically there. The dog handler knew and said that something had happened there.......
@@marymary20 What do you expect? A pathological liar changes his story over and over again, and even the cops don't know what really happened. But for those of us with experience of narcissists and psychopaths, reading between the lines and following our gut feelings, we have a fair idea. Not everyone's instincts are as developed as us who have had to live a life if vigilance from birth, when born to a narcissist mother. How nice for you not to have to live this way so as not to have to hone your instincts for pure survival.
@HONEY MOO MOO These dogs are trained not to bark for no reason. Some of them alert silently. I saw some in training on a video and the blood dog could find blood on a rag in all sorts of obscure places, indoors and out. He did not bark but put his nose in the spot and stood absolutely still. The cadaver dog did bark, and it never barked any other time except when scenting cadaver smell, and they used human tissue for this.
Mary B The dog barking hysterically, like the poster said, is a hint something happened there in Bella's room. The dog was hysterical in the area upstairs where Shanann's phone was found, near Bella's bed and the basement.
Thank you again. Yours is the only analysis I trust. I wish your explanation of covert narcissism/sociopathic behaviour was better understood, I beat my head on other channels! But having said that, I am also sure that you have gone a long way to educate people of the dangers of these people. Brilliant work. Poor Bella.
I believe he came up with that story so that it wouldn't look premeditated. Those babies would have been running around outside screaming and crying trying to wake up their mommy. I think he came up with the story on the spot and didn't realize how gruesome it would sound to the rest of the world because he has no feelings. He would not have taken the risk of them acting out while he was moving shanann body. I love your analysis though
I dont know about what else you were saying but the kids would not have been running around screaming, those are there parents they would be cowering and scared and they would be sitting still!
Trace- I think children know when a situation is serious and out-of-the-ordinary. My opinion is that the girls would have been very scared and confused, quiet and contemplating...they would have had every routine in their little lives broken and shattered that morning. I think they would have behaved, as all humans have a built in sense of self-preservation no matter how young we are. But, of course, only Chris knows what God-awful happenings occurred during that morning, pre-dawn. 😞
The fact is, a 3 & 4 yrs child is able 2 act up very R fast if they get the suddem impulse, they are utterly umpredictable! Chris Watts is gutless - kids set free at 5am cud wake ppl as he put his dead wife 2 his truck... Why ever wud he take a crazy risk like that... ! He's dumb, but that's suicide! He HATED his kids by this time - he was ready 2 get rid! He said 2 detectives they cried 4 their Mum every time he picked them up frm their classes - it irriated him that they cried 4 her. Why wud he crave a truck ride with them after he murdered their Mum... This is a classic Chris Watts LIE. He killed all 3 victims at the huse & travelled 2 the Cervi dump site with 3 DECEASED victims. I'm sick that evil wife & baby killer Chris Watts is STILL believed! Detective Tammy said he was a bad liar - I agree but it seems he has persuaded ppl - he's lived a lie his adult life. I see thru him!
Becky Dennis... If you consider that he was able to kill them with his bare hands, then you also have to be able to consider that he was in a position to say or do whatever he needed to do to get them to "sit down and shut up". (I'm only saying that to make the point, not to be disrespectful towards the girls.) The idea that they generally ran around screaming, looking for snacks, whining, etc. is not what was happening that morning. Chris had every bit of control, and Shanann was wrapped in a sheet at their feet. This wasn't just a ride to daycare where they might "act out". A loud voice that meant business (one they likely never heard before) is about all it would take.
Even at her young age, you can see how he was parentifying Bella and placing all his emotional responsibilities on her shoulders, making her far more mature than her years. He knew she was aware and caring, and he hated her for all that made her special, and how inadequate he was in comparison. and he had to destroy her. Those song lyrics say it all.
Just have to say....How wonderful and refreshing it is to listen to someone who really knows their stuff. I have great admiration for the fact that you do not rely on the use of props, expensive hair-dos, face make-overs etc., as do many others discussing CW subject. Truth is, you don't need any of those things, your natural beauty is plain to see, inside and out.
I love the way you explained his feelings towards the girls, so that we can better understand his mindset and how he could have done what he did. I think that is why all of us have been so preoccupied with this case. It isn’t morbid curiosity, rather, it is an overwhelming desire to comprehend how a father could do all of this to his own children. It’s sickening and horrifying, and goes against everything we know as human beings. Thank you for taking the time to explain this. It helps.
Thank you!!! It drives me batty when people claim CW wouldn't have taken the chance of someone seeing the girls not in a car seat. Its like, are you seriously?! Nothing he was thinking was rational. He had zero concerns other than making sure they died that day. Because they had become a thorn in his flesh Definitely shows their detective skills are a bit undiscerned, & they've never witnessed children in the presence of a violent situation. Which is a good thing for them. But bad to share disinformation , when anyone that's been thru the slightest bit of domestic violence knows the children, especially at their age, freeze with fear. I love your videos. You actually know what you're talking about. Not just trying to sensationalize the story for views & $
Live Abuse Free... I enjoy this channel so much because of the straightforward, intelligent, calm, and objective delivery, and I always feel like I understand a little bit more about the mind of Chris Watts when I'm finished. I'm not trying to offend anyone, but another aspect of the channel that I'm drawn to is the extremely noticeable absence of drama regarding the "guilt" of Nichole Kessinger, and the 101 ways she "created, designed, executed and covered up for" the work of this family annihilator. In other words, this was the place you could talk and learn about the case without having to be force fed all the theories and speculation that so aggressively monopolize specific channels. I know you've done a few videos about her, in terms of how she relates to CW, but your videos typically don't even mention her name, let alone push the narrative of her involvement. Do you have any idea how hard that is to find on youtube? I'm completely aware that the comment section is open for people to speak their opinion. I guess I'm just saying there are fewer and fewer places to be able to talk about CW without having to wade through the drama that eventually gets dragged up behind it. Thanks for your video and hard work!
Well said! Chris Watts murdered his family, he's a big guy & easily did it. If his mistress was there, helped him etc, LE wud have arrested her! It's crazy that ppl get hysterical - the killer Chris Watts is where he shd be, 4ever. I hate the mistress, she chased a married guy & tried 2 steal his wife's life. But a killer is pushig it - & lets CW get away with it, he deserves ALL the blame.
Kudos to the interviewers for being able to have that conversation without displaying any sort of judgment. Every time I think about Bella’s last words I’m brought to tears. Even when she knew what her father was going to do to her she still called him daddy. It’s so horrific.
Thank you for another great video!! I originally thought he killed his children at the house but after listening to you I'm convinced it happened as you described. I cant begin to imagine the horror that poor Bella sent thru.
I highly respect your opinion and totally agree with you about him not wanting to make himself look worse. And because of this and it's only IMO I do believe he heard of the theatrical shadows version via his family and went with it. After much thought and going through the details in the discovery I believe that in his warped mind he somehow thinks this will make him look better than the actual truth. The premeditation and the murders are most likely more horrific than any of us can even imagine.
I agree with you. I think he killed the babies before SW was even back in Colorado. He told this version and made sure it was extra horrific to convince people he could not possibly be lying because it makes him look so bad. But you have to ask yourself, what would make him look worse than this latest story? If he killed Bella and CeCe without SW being there to trigger him into some uncontrollable rage. It would prove premeditation and that he killed them all unprovoked. I think if he had not already killed the girls; when he found out SW was going to be 3 hrs late, he would have postponed the murders. He couldn't because he was at the point of no return. SW had to be killed right when she came home.
Fascinating insight into someone unfortunately is more common than we want to realise. We can all learn from this and watch for red flags in our own lives. Brilliant channel👏💕
Gratitude for this podcast. For me it clarified every grey area I had and and answered every question that I still pondered and allows me to see Chris Watts for exactly what and who he is. This makes it easy for me to finally let it go.... No more questions...no more pondering so...no more need to give myself creative & bizarre excuses for his behaviour....it is exactly what it is.... Again gratitude...I just had the hardest time accepting the reality that there ARE people like Chris Watts...period and end of story.
Isn't it strange how he looks like a Natzi, now. Before he looked like your average guy. I dont understand why he can keep pics of his family in his cell. This man is so scary because he had such a facade of kindness.
this is the first time that i feel without a doubt, that the still of CW during his interview, shows a Smugness, which to me clearly tells of how proud he secretly is of not Who he's become, but of What he is. However, the Secret is not really a secret meant to be withheld, rather, it is a secret for all of us, Everyone to see, therefore to Know! Thank you, Miss Zoe! Excellent as always!!! :)
@@supersgamers59 and that's part of his "game" is it not? the man is such a complete wasted space on our good earth, Phiri! but Our earth, methinks, knows how to dispatch of such waste, in eventuality! GOOD!!! :) thank you!
thank you, Miss Zoe. i will say that you know, and do this with the righteousness of knowledge, intelligent and educated thought, judgment and therefore; opinion, what to set forth in front of us. I like your CLARITY, offered through integrity! and that's why i'm here, with much gratitude and satisfaction. marti-Grecia. :)
It baffles me how he can sit there and just let it roll off his tongue with 0 emotion. What he did is one of the worst things we’ve ever seen. It’s heartbreaking. I know he has no feelings. My heart hurts to know the fear and confusion Bella felt. He is a dark, weird man.
Superb Video and insite. The most disturbing part of this entire case is the way he killed his daughter's ..just unfathomable. Let CW relieve these images for the test of his pathetic life!!!
I think he relishes it-prison will be a breeze for him. These ppl are not like you and I-the ones in my life would love the total lack of having to provide for themselves, they are leeches at their core. Nothing about them regrets any wrong they do.
@@marcyfox9508 You have a Good point!!He seemed pretty put together in that confession interview..It struck me how calm he was and seemingly unnerved to be in prison..maybe because its still new,or maybe because like you said hes unlike us!!!A scary scary, man!!!!😱😱😱😱
I'm sick of these"people"and I use that term loosely! We have a national narcissism awareness day in the uk. I think it's June the 1st. Make no mistake. These monsters are dangerous..I'm feeling no compassion for them today. Truly sickening what cw did to these children and wife.
Notice how the detectives sneak in a question about whether he contacted Nicole right after the murders? They are really digging to discover if she was somehow involved. I think that is what this entire interview was REALLY about. If she somehow was involved, I hope they nail her, even if it takes 15 years.
Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to comment on this terribly disturbing event. You are smart and kind and I love you. Your videos have helped me to survive having to run away from my husband and I know that they are helping others also. You are an Angel.
Thank you for another great video! If this was premeditated though, why would he kill the girls at the site instead of at home? It’s so hard to differentiate the lies from the truth. I can’t believe a word he says. Is he trying to convince us that it wasn’t premeditated? We will never know the truth. Love your insight though, thanks again.
It's a shame Bella didn't get out the car and run and hide when Chris disposed her sister in the tank. That may have been futile, but a slim chance. But she ultimately trusted daddy even after what she had witnessed with her mum and sister. But the poor girl was no doubt traumatised and in freeze mode. Such a tragedy. Poor thing.
I was just thinking earlier today about his claiming to not be sure if he said “yes” to Bella’s question. I feel certain if very little regarding his story, but I think we all know that he definitely did speak the word “yes”, if he didn’t say even more to threaten and intimidate her.
Blooming Accents totally agree! This is why she would have been quite. Her whole world was shattered! I think Cece was mostly asleep because she was so little but if not she would have been frightened to death as well. Such a tragic story! I wish I could get over it! And I’ve lost my son at 17. None of this makes any sense to me...ugh
Blooming Accents Right- if nothing else, even if she didn’t understand that Shanann was dead, she would’ve been inconsolable that her mother wasn’t acknowledging her because she’d been SO anxious to exchange affections, not having seen her for a period. Also incredibly tragic that mother and daughters were already missing each other when robbed of the chance to ever share hugs and kisses again. Listen to the way he says, “Like her lips were missing or something?”, as if he’s pondering what he might have done wrong re-heating a burrito.
I think you should reach out to Frankie R. I am concerned he has been propelled into an ocean of online and in-person personalities, and sadly many are dark or have dark motives. I watched him comfort his father at court, saw his kindness and love for his family, and for Chris despite everything. Watching Frankie sit there taking it all in, reminded me of times where something is just so big, I feel numb, observing, absorbing everything in, running, mulling everything over in my mind, trying to make sense of it all. But, how can you make sense of something so senseless. If you feel you could offer him some advice, insight or comfort , real friendship, please consider reaching out. I ask this not having any idea whether he would appreciate it or not, but I do think you may be able to help him. Lots of love and thank you for the videos. I agree with what you said in this video too. He was only shedding a tear for fear of people thinking ill of him.
Oh my word.. It is so hard to listen to this monster, and picture in my mind, what those sweet little girls were thinking. I can not even begin to know how horrified ,esp. Bella, would have been.Poor little Cecee was smaller, younger, and not as aware of what was happening. But, Bella !! Oh my goodness! How could anyone do that to any child, let alone his own precious little girls who adored him??? Her having to watch what he did to her little sister , and knowing he was going to do the same thing to her.. as he confirmed to her. Just like you said, she must have been so so terrified and confused by what was happening to her, and Cecee ,by her own daddy. :'( And ,she fought for her life, injuring her little mouth Oh dear God!!.!!OH!!!That horrible excuse for a human being!!! I know it is not right to hate, but, I HATE HIM!!. Thank you so so very much for all your superb analysis of this whole despicable thing.. It really does help a lot to understand what happened, and why. But, it still hurts my heart so much, thinking of those precious , innocent angels. God bless and keep you, and thank you SO Much!
Your analysis is by far the best one can find on RU-vid. I know it may be selfish of me and inconsiderate of the time required to edit and publish the videos to say you shouldn’t wait too far between videos, but my suggestion stems from the fact that too much time passes between them and they feel disconnected. Also, the time between vids allows us the viewers to detach from the horror this story is; almost purposely detach because of the hideous reality this man imposed on these beautiful humans. Thank you for your insight. It’s unmatched quite frankly. I’m a subscriber and a fan of your intelligent, well composed reviews. Thank you for your hard work.
How Shannan never saw through CW is simply mind boggling!! She was so intelligent, hardworking and focused and yet never really knew this guy whom she loved so much. I guess he put on the good guy act but I wonder if she ever felt that he was faking emotions. And poor little Bella, her suffering is beyond imagination. Just imagining this little girl who loved and trusted her dad so much and then to actually witness him kill her baby sister and then to be killed by this heartless monster is so heartbreaking.
I've often wondered about this as well. We tend to put victims on a pedestal; have we done that a bit with Shanann? Was she totally blind to the kind of person he really was, or did she know? It's obvious she was very intelligent and would have picked up on the gruesome side of his character at SOME point. My guess is that she knew he was slow and unemotional but didn't care much as long as he was a good provider. They just seemed SO incredibly mismatched - she was vibrant and outgoing, and he was a loner, hanging back, awkward. He probably embarrassed her a lot.
Yes . Yes. Yes. We have identical thoughts. He ran out of time and he was not expecting that. All you said is spot on … again. Thank you for posting all you do.
Forgive me but I had to watch this in two halves. It was just too hard to hear and I had to have a half hour pause before I could hear the rest. As an artist I have a very visual imagination and I kept visualising those poor children sat in that truck out in the wilderness all in the dark. As you say, it is almost impossible to imagine the fear they must have felt, especially Bella. Just horrendous. It's almost as though I can't accept it really happened it seems so beyond understanding. Your analysis helps but I must admit I just can't get to grips with Watts losing his identity. I mean, when you say: "Whatever Chris Watts was as a child has gone" That I find that very interesting as well as very chilling. How can someone lose their empathy so much that they could kill their own daughters?
Crypto-yes, me too. I had to pause Chris's confession multiple times and listen over the course of a few days because I found myself overwhelmed with grief...and I bet many others did the same thing. That's what is so crazy about our world-some people are so kind and empathetic and some feel very little.
I could not wait to hear his confession so I played it all the way through while doing other chores around the house that day but I felt sick for the next few days... I didn’t connect the two events but I’m sure listening to him affected me physically.
@@interested210 I found myself seeing him in the traffic after listening to the confession. When I first listened I made a comment that he actually came across as likeable, and I stress, if you didn't actually know what he'd done. But I think the more you listen, the more your actually hear and the more calculating he becomes.
@Mary Smith: I completely agree with you Mary. Empathy is surely one of the main qualities that makes us human. I really can not imagine what it must be like to be someone like Watts. I mean, if they have no real feelings the perhaps they are like a kind of living dead?
@Interested: I believe your experience has a mighty and important message because it says a lot about how we process such terrible events. We perhaps believe it does not in and and affect us so much because we are so far removed from it, but in fact it really does affect us. Thank you for sharing that I found it very insightful.
There must me much more to Chris Watts to become this monster. There must be clues in his past history of brewing Narcissistic behaviour. Has the whole of his married life been a lie. Your analysis is so very interesting.
Watts only came up with that story after hearing about the shadows videos and so "just ran with it".......as we have seen him do before. He subtly challenged the agents by asking "didn't you see the video"? He never answered a straight question with a straight answer. He had an agenda for everything he said. He was trying to hide how premeditated the murders were and the involvement of an accomplice. It would have taken him 2 hours to dig Shananns grave and he did not have time on that morning - it was pre-dug over the weekend. I will always believe the children were killed hours before Shannan arrived home.......Shananns borther and father have seen footage we haven't (although I have an unmasked video of what they saw and identified the bodies from.......and it was edited for public consumption). It shows him taking one child out in a garbage bag......."I saw what you did. You took them out like trash. Video doesn't lie". Thats what Frank Senior said at sentencing. There are many other reasons to believe Watts did not leave Shannans body lying out in the open for any length of time. All sorts of people turn up at that site unexpectedly, including the water truck driver, local cattle farmers looking for lost cattle.........None of his story rings true.
The only problem with your theory is that if he killed the kids at home and Shanann's flight delay 'could' have allowed rigour mortis to set in. at the point of putting the kids into the oil tank would be near impossible with stiff bodies.
@@BillyNoMates1974 Rigor mortis has many variables. And once it wears off the bodies are pliable again - for a few hours. And it's even possible the babies were driven out there and put in the tanks before Shannan came home . He could not take his truck out there so may have taken them in the Lexus.
Not possible imho. S. was in her sleeping shirt. She first was looking for her sleeping girls as every mother does coming home. Kids were alive at this moment.
@@Sharon-pb7so A lot of people suspect that Nickole Kissenger had a bigger role in things. unfortunately the restricted discovery files only play into this theory more. Technically speaking she may not have said to Chris 'go kill them all' but she could have said 'i will always be second best to your wife and kids' and that would have been game on in CW's warped mind to obliterate his family.
I believe he killed them during the long period of time Shannan was trying to phone him to let him know her flight had been delayed by over 2 hours. He did not answer his phone......later he texted her and explained he had missed her calls because he fell asleep on the couch this man we are told went crazy from lack of sleep due to duo burn patches. But he had no trouble sleeping in NC and ignoring Shannan while she was up all night vomiting. And she asked him in a text "How can you sleep when our marriage is falling apart and I ahve been awake crying for a week"?
@@st6576 It would make sense if what he really did was far worse, as many clever investigators believe. "When a narcissist admits to wrong doing, you can be sure the truth is far worse". Many now believe the babies were dead in the house and he and his accomplice showed her the bodies and told her that she was going to die too. She would have collapsed in shock before having a chance to react. He was sadistic enough to do such a thing, and he hated Shannan and wanted to hurt and degrade her as much as possible. Why did he record the fridge temperature? So many red flags that show he is hiding something much worse than anything he has confessed to so far.
Its so Awful and terrible to hear how he killed them. He is sick. How could no one not se who he really was/is. No love ,nothing,empty,selfish, its scary. Always intresting to listen to you.Thank you
That was very sweet when you said that an empathetic person could not stop imagining the possibility of injuries to the victims, in this case Bella. Chris seems so disconnected, a dolt. He either doesn’t want to know the details or didn’t care.
Watts was the big Metallica fan, he has a Metallica tattoo and we saw him at a Metallica concert. He could easily have explained the lyrics to NK without having to look them up. This was their celebration, mission accomplished song, and the photos of the sunflowers he texted her from the site. Lots of symbolism - like the big dead doll pic he sent to Shannan just 2 days before he killed them all. Secret codes, burner phones, deleting texts and google searches - which NK ORDERED him to do, not asked, ordered. And her friends as well, ordered to delete everything to do with her off all their social media and phones.
@@sallyire1 He has done nothing but cover for her thus he took the plea deal. She wouldn't last 5 minutes on the stand under cross examination in front of a jury. And somewhere in his warped mind he thought he would be free again one day to be with her. He threw screaming tantrums in the DAs office as he did not want to take the plea deal. He was hoping to get manslaughter and use provocation as a defense. But I am sure his court appointed lawyers told him he had no chance and to take the plea deal. I have just heard, but can't confirm, that NK is engaged to somebody else already and that Watts knows it. It was on a channel I saw last night where the lady had read the transcript of the recent prison interviews - some of which is missing from the recordings we heard. Watts read the info - her name was blacked out but they all knew who it meant. If thats the case he may not protect her for much longer. He kept slipping in his interview, "we", who is "we"?
This channel and crimerocket.com have some very good analysis of the case with good balanced comments (away from the RU-vid hysteria and overblown ideas). keep up the good work Live Abuse Free
From what I recall, during the interview they asked him how he was doing. He replied that where he is now is much better than the prison he was initially in. He mentioned that other prisoners were shouting at him and telling him to kill himself. He also mentioned that he would eventually be going into general population. I found myself wondering if in a way His description of what he did with the girls, horrific as it was, was in his way making sure he gets to stay in protective custody. How could they put Him into general population after what he described? Although his confession sounds horrific, does it in a way give him protection from general population?
Yes, that makes sense - he's only thinking for himself and what would be best for HIM, after all - so he doesn't mind being seen as the monster he is as long as it gives him a smooth, steady ride in prison. What a POS.
That makes sense, your TV analogy. It is otherwise hard to put together the vids and photos of him with the kids, being silly with them, being seemingly so loving of them with his throwing them out. You put things so well, I’m so grateful I found your channel. You must hear that a lot. Lol Yes, a 5 year old knows what’s what. I understood my grandfather’s death and he was going to be buried in the ground. It was horrible, but I fully got it. Pets ARE family!
Is it credible that "the kids walked around the house" calmly while he loaded their dead mother in the truck - and his lunch? Kids want food and drink and toilet and nappy change as soon as they wake up - especially a 3 year old. They won't brook excuses or being put off. He could not take the risk of either of them running out onto the driveway in front of Nates cam, or screaming and crying where neighbors could hear, look out their windows and see this trauma and chaos going on.
When kids are with there parents and the parents are acting out towards eachother kids cower and are scared and believe me they sit still. That is a fact. They dont ask for snacks and they dont run around. I dont understand why anyone wouldnt know that
@@traciewasley7750 He said the kids were just walking around the house, after seeing their dead mother dragged down the stairs and into the truck. These are kids who cried hysterically when their mother was out of their sight - as he himself had said. They cried on the trip home in the car the only time he picked them up from school. They cried at the airport with their grandfather when Shannan was out of sight for a few minutes and they cried even at the grandparents house while they were inside and Shannan was outside talking on her phone. Frankie said to Chris "What are you? Chopped liver"? Chris replied "I know right"? Nobody can convince me Watts took the risk of letting those children walk around the house and then calmly went to the driveway and calmly got in the truck - he does''t mention lifting them in there......... I do not believe Bella sat in the truck alone after watching her sister murdered and her body taken up to the walkway and did not try to get out of the truck and run, or scream and cry.
Juanita, love and respect your opinions on this case. I respectfully disagree that the girls would be running around asking their dad for things. Kids are very intuitive... They I knew something was very different on this particular morning and were most likely scared, confused and contemplating what was going on. When a parent is upset or mad/stern (as Chris was that morning) I think they likely were quiet and obeyed. No matter how small and Tiny we are, we all have self-preservation first and foremost built into us through genetics.
Thank you so much for giving your opinions and reasons to the horrific murders of this beautiful mother and precious children. I know it has been very helpful to me in trying to grasp this man's mindset. I think you are very accurate!
I agree with mostly everything you said. I believe 100% that he was feeding off the girls fear as he was driving to the site and them not knowing what was going on. I think for once in his life, he felt free and powerful and his chains broke. And as far as the girls and what they said or did, I go back and forth on that part.Yes, it's not in his best interest to lie about it but on some level I have to believe he COULD have made it up with the intention of further hurting the family.
As sick as it sounds I think the “empathy” he did show his girls was smothering then before jamming them down the oil drum. I hope he did at least do that and not drop them in there alive 😣
David, "fat mate" - not nice. Nicole Atkinson is a super human being and great friend. She single-handedly saved the day and solved this case before it even got going.
Snow Flake I was raised by a covert narc mom (although raised is a lie she didn’t lift a finger towards me hardly) she’s an empty vessel and a coward. I think perhaps it’s sociopaths who enjoy killing
Thanks again for explaining his emotions & I love how your tone of voice is quite calming with such an upsetting crime. But I just can’t put this crime aside.
Chris Watts tricks a lot of people into believing he "just snapped"....and he REALLY is a loving father in real life. This video should be a REQUIREMENT for anyone wanting to consider this case.
I love your insight on this case. That song by Metallica is about what he had done to his family. I recall another case, Justin Barber who murdered his wife on the beach after listening to the song "I use to love her but I had to kill her." by Guns and roses. I also believe he took the children out of that house alive. He knew exactly what he was doing.
He’s so calm re telling the story… he tries so hard to act concerned but as soon as he’s done telling them how he murdered his kids if they were to ask him what his favorite color is. He would just be as joyful as ever. I can’t wrap my brain around that.
I think he was most jealous of Celeste because she was so ebullient, so full of the life spark that he lacked. And everyone seem to dote on her the most.
Thank you so much for these videos . I’m sure I speak for most people who got into this case that it was confusing and traumatising. You insights into all involved are so good .
I think poor Bella would have been crying and VERY upset. She would have likely seen him drag Shanann's body down the stairs in a sheet! He said the sound of her body thumping down the stairs is what woke Celeste, who probably also saw the same thing!! This is beyond horror.
What happened to Bella is the overriding aspect of this horrific case that haunts me the most. She must have been absolutely terrified and confused beyond measure. Bella was the more sensitive of his two daughters and I cannot imagine how a little girl can begin to process the trauma of her “hero” Daddy destroying her entire family. This went beyond getting rid of his wife and kids to start a new life, this was personal, cruel and sadistic. A senseless and cowardly act that speaks to how evil Chris Watts is. To delight in torturing and murdering three women who worshipped him, along with his unborn son is absolutely unspeakable. He deserves to be kept in solitary confinement for the rest of his wasted life and he should rot in hell!
Good analysis. Things that Chris failed to take into consideration to get away with it. Shanann's flight being delayed - could have caused problems if the kids were already deceased. He didn't know Shanann's unlock code on her phone. Nickole Atkinson did (baby Niko due date) - I think he planned to offset everyone posing as Shanann in text messages.. Nickole Atkinson being such a good friend and very quickly figuring things were not correct. Doctors appointment being 10am and being skipped. The Colorado police applying full resources so quickly and then assigning the correct police approach to coax the information out of him. The cervi 319 site not being cleared up was something to come back to at a later time and clear up (after taking the spotlight off himself by posing as Shanann on her phone).
Don't you think if that was the big plan he would have made sure he knew the unlock code by asking her/forcing her before killing her? All the rest seems spot on
@@fuzzyfoods710 I suspect he knew 'a code' but Nickole Atkinson said Shanann changed it recently. After all she had at least a few weeks to change it when CW was treating her badly and she suspected something was wrong. Also the fact that he removed his FB account a couple of weeks before the event actually put him at a disadvantage in terms of her social media life (times of posting and how frequent). thus I bet he wasn't aware of the doctors appointment and possibly forgot how frequent Shanann posted at regular times.
@@BillyNoMates1974 What if he indeed knew the code but pretended he didn't, thus being "unable" to unlock it for police, but then here comes her best friend, which he didn't expect, and she knew it. I think he may have been playing dumb to try to withhold information. I'm so glad all of his stupid plans collapsed on him.
From 2018 i hv been following chris watts case.. and often search back related videos. but now in dec 2021 only, youtube showed ur videos... and yours are the best insight. Thank you.