Those so-called Nerd Analytics don’t take into account true shooting percentage. They don’t take into account the strength of the conferences they played in. LeBron never faced Kobe in the playoffs. San Antonio gave him a taste of what that would have been like
They go off numbers.... And there's things statistics just can't explain. I don't care who u are... When Kobe was on the court... THERES NO WAY YOUR SAYING SUCH AND SUCH HAD MORE SKILL THAN KOBE. It was always obvious that Kobe was the best man on the court in any game. I think they hate because how long Kobe's reign was.. society always wants something "new"
Don't watch kellerman show and shannon always telling lies about kobe stephen A see a true talents of kobe bryant let's vote true mvp top to the nba remember guys kobe robbed mpv 2003,2004,2006,2007,2009,2010
Since the media are so obsessed with numbers, Wilt Chamberlain & Kareem are both better than Jordan; and I love Jordan but Wilt averaged 50 points and 27 rebounds for an entire season. He also led the league in assist one year. Crazy!!
Yea he gets the short end of it. My eyes he's my favorite player and best. Throw all these analyst into they try to prove otherwise. Kobe to me was the best to watch and fun to watch. But hey everyone has an opinion.
How quickly they forget... I love when the PLAYERS give their opinions. These guys battled against Kobe every night and they all say he was the best! The most skilled! The most tenacious! A bunch of bozos in suits got the nerve to put a current player ahead of Kobe on an all time great list? So disrespectful
@@michaelkirschner6009 Even you don't believe that. Kareem won 6 chips and Magic was the leader for 5 of them. There is no logical way Kareem is better than Magic Johnson, much less Kobe.
No he shouldnt have 4 mvps, honestly his 2008 mvp was in question with cp3, obviously top 10 but he didnt really put up that amazing season with stats and team success, it was one or the other
He should've had at least two more MVP'S than what he had but somehow the league tried to ignore his greatness. Not taking nothing away from Steve Nash and the other great players who played during Kobe's prime years but it's clear from his contemporaries that he was the best player during that era.
Lebron shouldn’t even be ranked above Kobe. They know this list is bull an they need to get off this stats crap. He is not a better or skilled player than Kobe Bryant. The players who played against them know that.
UltraJeed no they wouldn’t have they likely would’ve been about the same. LeBron’s numbers are still pretty much just as good as ever and he’s in year 17. Good players will get their numbers no matter what conference they’re in
I was born in 92 and my dad made me a basketball fan in 1998 and I have seen many great superstars, I'm not doubting that Jordan is the 1# player of all time and I'll give it to him all day even tho I started watching him by the end of this career but honestly the best basketball player i have ever seen and I hardly missed his games was Kobe Bryant I watched him early in his career and even after the 3 peat the way how he would dominant teams and players and also he was an assassin in the clutch, he would always give 100% every game and played through many tough injuries , even a 1 on 1 ? Kobe all day, so there will never be a more dominant player in my eyes than Kobe Bryant heres my list of best NBA players watching in my time 1 Kobe Bryant 2 Shaquille Oneal 3 Vince Carter 4 Allen Iverson 5 Dwayne Wade 6 Tim Duncan Sorry but Lebron isn't even in my top 6 and I been watching NBA since 1998 PS lebron always got rocked by the celtics and the spurs and those same teams Kobe shi**ed on them, try putting lebron in the west his whole career, his stats and achievements will not be the same because the east is weak 💯
@@jeisreis5083 in truth Kobe scores in his face several incredibles shots. if that's why he also has 3 Fisher-horry rings..following your reasoning Lebron also has 2 Wade rings. Not to mention how embarrassingly he did it in the first experience at the cavs, or in the final against the mavs in which he set several negative records for a superstar, until he decided to go and win rings with the final landing already guaranteed . forget that there is just no history
He's a polarizing figure but he's closer to 14th than to top 3 that's for sure. He's between 8-14 depending on th person you ask. But Kobe fans think he's in the top 3-5 which is really a stretch! Lol!
Could not win a championship until he teamed up with more all stars . People say Boston was the first team to do it but pierce didn't call no one to come team up with him the celtics managment made great trades
Then people hate on the warriors saying they have an all star team remind you they built a team of great drafts . Besides durant yet the warriors had beat lebron once before durant . So yes lebron is the first pussy to call all stars to team up with him
I swear I didn't come across this interview before, but no my respect for Uncle Shay just went into the drain. He is just another idiot looking up stats and numbers. LeBron ain't no winner, which reflects on his 3-6 record. A lot of people say LeBron has a better playoff record and clutch record than Kobe, but I'm curious how many of them would actually choose LeBron to carry a team into the 4th quarter, 10 points behind the opponent, as the only star on the team in the playoffs. Shay questioned whether LeBron had any teammate like Shaq, my question back to him was did Kobe have a DWade and Bosh caliber player together with him AT THE SAME TIME and still lost in the finals, somehow. Another question is would LeBron cope with the pressure if his best side-kicks were injured/fouled out like how Kobe handled it when Shaq fouled out against the Pacers? You give LeBron the Shaq Lakers team and he might not even 3-peat, you give LeBron the Gasol Lakers team and he most probably would not repeat, might not even win any championships.
The disrespect they have on Kobe is unbelievable I remember when they will be praising Kobe every time the finals was on back in the day and I was always excited to see him never once did I really hear negative opinions about him until he retired.they acting like he ain’t won 5 rings and reached records that only a few have done in this game. Kobe was my hero growing up because I wanted to be like him and honestly I could care less what negative opinion they have about Kobe, because he made me love the game🙏🏼 even more.
Kobe was a Phenomenal Player not cos of stats or accomplishment but his Work Ethics, commitment to being the Best at his Craft. Him & Lebron idolized Jordan
I wonder if people will ever TRULY understand how impressive what Kobe did was. Kobe wasn't blessed with Jordan's athleticism so he had to work way harder for his greatness! Kobe is the most disrespected legend the NBA has ever had. Just listen to the players talk about him they always put Kobe way up on their list!
@6 languages and 4 degrees Kobe top 3. Lebron top 10. Thats facts. Lebron beats 40 win teams in the playoffs aint impressive. Played in the trash east pretty much his entire career.
@@bballah4lyfe noone said anything about Giannis! This was about Jordan and Bryant so u making comments about what I don't know but read carefully in the future b4 making an ass out yourself on things u not paying attention to!
It’s really laughable that NO NBA player picks LeBron over Kobe even Kobe’s greatest adversaries! Yeah LeBron probably gets all the records but that doesn’t make him the best winner. He can have best-stats-player of all time but MJ is the 🐐 and Kobe the 2nd 🐐. As far as third LeBron may have it but Bird and Magic right there too.
No Doubt, I always argue that point that LeBron not even better than Magic or Bird. Most people sleep on Bird and Magic because they wasn't flying through the air and all that but these guys were freaks of nature man. Magic for 12 years was always in the convo going for the Chips and only lost to teams in the finals that was considered to be 1 of the Greatest teams of all time. As a rookie in the finals Kareem was on his way to being the MVP until he got hurt in the 6 game and everybody was saying the Sixers was going to win game 7 back in Philadelphia. But what did MAGIC say, "Have no fear, Magic is here" . And what did he do in game 7, just dropped 42, 15 and 7 as a rookie!!! Who does that, oh only Magic did. Lady thing because this supposed to be about Kobe, Magic in a 4 year span won a Chip in High School, College and Pro. Don't think anybody else could say that.
I can’t believe he’s gone I almost cried watching this video RIP the got my heart turned upside down when I heard he died Kobe you will be missed but never forgotten rest I peace mamba and Giana Bryant prayers to your family and friends
They have Lebron number 2 in top 50??? He wouldn’t have any rings if he never teamed up. Zero if he never gone to Miami, that set him up to get that team in Cleveland
Kobe did it all. When he retired he knew he did 200% effort in everything about basketball. All these just our opinion. All the guys played with him or against him always respect his work ethics. Kobe might be hated too but everyone respect him and mostly admire him.
Plan and simple for me soon as Kobe rode with a co-star, A co-star 3 of 4 2 of 3 for 5, Bron has several all star co-stars 3 of 8. Oh in the west whole career. That separates them for me.
I almost cried thank you for the vid Kobe we know what you did Fuck what everyone says To me you’re the greatest Miss you Kobe thank you for everything
The best player is not judged by stats !!! The best player is judged by skills !!!!! Kobe has crazy skills!!! Watch highlights! The shots that Kobe made are ridiculous and nobody has made shots like Kobe.
"The shots that Kobe made are ridiculous and nobody has made shots like Kobe." Ever heard of a guy named "Michael Jordan" ? You should look him up. Actually you might even want to ask Kobe what he thinks of the man ^^
can we just remove people who havent played a second in the nba who keeps telling us who is the best based on numbers???? players who played against thrm should be enough to tell us who is the best or not...ex NBA, veterans, HOFamers, what they say should be enough...they know their shit man!
Kobe bean Bryant I would like to take the time out of my day to apologize for these ignorant people who continue to disrespect you and spew such blasphemy! It makes me soooo mad when people try to discredit you. You showed us how hard work beats talent every time talent fails to work as hard. Even after the commitment, drive and accomplishments that came with it they still attempt to throw dirt on your name & us TRUE basketball fans will never stand for it. Salute to you vino. Only second to the Michael Jeffrey jordan and no one else.
Totally agree that after Colorado, the league cast Kobe aside, ignoring his hardworking and how great he truly is. Another point what media don’t mention is the impact after Jordan’s success. His inspiration made the competition harder in the 00’s era because of the expansion of the base has upgraded to the whole world. More kids dedicate themselves to basketball and the sparkles of talents are way more than before, and Kobe is still the best guard in the league at that time. Hence he has definitely been disrespected.
Shannon using the “what did kobe do after Shaq and before pau” argument uhh like okay we can do that too what did MJ do before Pippen, what did lebron do before wade and bosh. How you going to talk shit about Kobe after Shaq leaving..you left him with dog shit...lebron wouldn’t have carried that team any better after Shaq left like tf. Replace lebron for Kobe during the years where he didn’t have Shaq and pau gasol it would’ve been the same fucking story maybe worse. Don’t give me that shit.
How about LeBron before teaming up with Wade and Bosh? Or teaming up with Love and Irving? LeBron didn’t do anything before teaming up with hall of famers. It’s a team sport. That argument Shannon gave is irrelevant.
Listen they keep saying lebron is a better all around player right? Ok first of all u cant make that argument when both kobe and jordan play a smaller position then lebron where their primary objective was to score. Both kobe and mj could pass the ball and get boards but thats not what their job was. There role with phil jackson was to score and play defense in the triangle system. Lebron just had the freedom to do what he want. If phil gave kobe and mj the green light to do everything then they would but it wasnt needed. Put kobe and mj in this current league with their teams and all people would be saying is kobe and mj on a collision course to meet in the finals. The players in this league has the luxury of not having to deal with grit and grind defenses and has the freedom to do what they want. But the majority of these players wouldnt even be in the league had they came in around kobe or mjs time. Players now get injured without having much force put on them, imagine what it would be had the league been the same as kobes time.
Exactly they let a 6'9 sf run point with nothing but shooters around him so he can drive and kick to bring up his assist stats lebron this year showed hes the biggest stat padder of all time trying to go for most points all time lol
In 2k They have #8 Kobe above #24 kobe. Rating a 96 with all Jordans and lebrons above him also Magic, Tim Duncan,Bill russel, steph curry , Shaq, giannis, Kareem, Larry bird, Kawhi, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, luka doncic, and Karl Malone above Kobe. With Jordan’s three point rating above his. Jordan’s highest rating is a 89 and lowest is a 80 with Kobe’s 3pt a 79 and we all know kobe was a better shooter than Jordan especially from 3 That’s hella shade
Dumb ass! Do you think UCLA just lets anyone attend? Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Walton, Jamal Wilkes, Baron Davis, etc, etc, etc... Have you ever seen or heard of a UCLA player, or ex player that wasn't intelligent? Complete dumb shit to say.
your the goat....Kobe bryant...Amazing mamba.... only AIRNESS AND MAMBA MENTALITY WAS FUN TO WATCH,....hung on the air and pump pick turn around jumper and left handed shot while his he has broken finger no Problem,caused thats the goat no Exxuses cramps free throw sliding in a clutch time,block by 6foot defender in a clutch time thats the FLOPPS MENTALITY thats Why no ONE can choosed LEBUM BLAMES...BOY CRAMPS
You must be a kid. Wilt had better stats than Lebron and he and Lebron will never he as good or skillful as Jordan and Kobe. Lebron cannot even shoot a ball correctly - horrible balance and form.
@Vonte Stevenson If that's the case then.. If lebron is so skillful why is he so horrible at shooting free throws? Huh? Since we nit picking. What's LeBrons career free throw percentage? 😂 😂 😂
3:02 if I ever see the guy who said that (don’t remember his name, but I know his face.) isn’t going to have a face after I slap him silly for saying that about Kobe.
Kobe is a top 2 period. The same people who put Labron James#2 say Kobe isn't#2 because he had Shaq. But yet labron has had the absolute most help ever.
Kobe was the player who made the most out of the facility he was given. He's been on the record saying he's only about 6'4" not 6'6", his athleticism is basically a B grade by NBA standards, and he's neither strong or quick. Throughout his career he just outworked everybody, and not by a little. He drilled his footwork, studied the game and his opponents, and systematically went about wreaking havoc. He's the most skilled player to ever play the game.
Me and Kobe is about the same age and when i was in high school he came to my high school as an 18 year old rookie with Cedric Ceballos, Byron Scott and Elden Cambell and from that day you could see the confidence and aspiration of wanting to be the best. It was a light work out and some what of a showcase but Kobe wanted to stand out and let us (his peers) know that he was something special. He made me fall in love with the game everytime I watched him play, I think a lot of us took advantage of how special and gifted he was and now watching today's basketball reminds us. There will never be another one.
I love how stack show his love to kobe everytime he gets ask questions about him. It's funny how those media and sports analyst who never played the game gets to critisize players, and gets the say who's the best. They do this to stay relevant, if they didn't they wouldn't have a job.
I have to agree with taylor i been a kobe fan and lakers fan for ever this man was the hardest worker fearless competitor and did not want to be friends when they played. To this day i have not watched a full lakers game the announcer are like they forgot about the Mamba Kobe all day.
I always remember only one line that settles the debate said by Larry bird"if you want to have fun then pick lebron and if you want to win win and win then Kobe bean Bryant"
Actually the more glaring part of this list is the fact that they have David Robinson ahead of Hakeen Olajuwan!! Are they out of their freakin' minds!!!
Why did they argue that.. damn we know in our self kobe is the goat. Shit why did you not restpect a number 1 skilled player in a basketball history. Come on..
I can only compare Kobe to MJ and Lebron to Magic. Two are pure scorers with killer instinct and the other two are facilitators that will make other around them better, but can score if necessary. Stats just don’t show the intangibles with some players.
Kobe is my favorite player. For this reason he played with a hunger of a player. Who came from the hood that basketball was his only way out. Instead he came from a upper middle class family. Where is Father played in the NBA and overseas. Scored a 1300 on his SAT's meaning that he could of went to college academically instead of ball. But had the hunger and desire of "my only way out is ball"
Rings does matter. Kobe got 3 peat with 1 superstar and 2 peat with 1all star. While lebron got his with 2 superstars 1 all star in miami and 2 all star in cleveland and still only gets 3 championships
It's easy to hate a person because of the lack of communication with them, so now I understand why he is so disrespected! But Kobe Bryant,what he did for this sport, even Shaq himself said he is better than LeBron and that Kobe carried him at times! Shaq even said he wouldn't even get in shape or even play at full force because he had Kobe!
Mamba is the MOST HATED, UNDERAPPRECIATED DISRESPECTED player in NBA history by the media. But All His peers know what the deal is. I'm creating a new status of iconic greatness that right now only Kareem and Kobe exist.
This is the reason that I listen to players on player over prognosticators, number crunchers, and others that WATCH the game. What's even colder is listening to Gilbert Arenas totally break down his skill set, mentality, and maximization of his abilities. Listen to the ones "who done it".
This is why i don't listen to analyst who didn't play in the nba.. They think they know it all they think what they say is true but when asked did you ever play against them they can't talk they only base on what they watch what they see on stat sheet.. While nba players base on their experience they can tell who is better they can weigh who they can guard easier.. They just don't base on stats they base on who gave them the most problems when guarding a player how difficult to guard them..
its beautiful how real players discribe who was kobe. and analysts say different 14 what I have kobe 1.2 punch mj 1.2 same attitude but way different skills Mamba all the way. just keep disrespecting kobe 20 year from know he will be one of the greatest to play. and people will say yes but Wright know its ok. the people who saw this man play even mj say close to me. thanks kobe and mamba mentally and physically explosive in your game i miss you already.
How media hate Kobe this is something unbelievable. This people haven't heart when they say he isn't in top 10 and it isn't fair to rang him in top 5.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Yeah, the real truth is he isn't top 10, he isn't top 5, he is top 1. Rest in peace GOAT.
kobe is the peoples best player of all time. he will always be cause we have eyes . we can see who was the best. i dont care about career stats. he was hurt he was injured 3 or 4 years. he played with pretty shitty teams when shaq left. and still hes the best player over anyone else. he had not the best body . not the best length. but he gave it all. never cheated. he was there 4 us 20 years. and many followed him way after his basketball career so we werent ready to let him go. this feels like the end of the end. and thats whats so sad. we have to let him go now forever
Unfortunately there's a lot of sports organizations that are not happy with Kobe for many reasons but the main one is, because he refuses to kiss their azz after he retired. Until I see another player retire 2 jerseys... Kobe will always be number 1⃣..... 😂 Lakers nation ✌️
I did not like Kobe when he played in the league but he is one of the best players I seen if I had my choice out of LeBron and Kobe I will pick Kobe he's that good