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Analytical & Metaphysical Idealism | Feedback Loop ep. 57, Bernardo Kastrup 

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Bernardo Kastrup on analytical and metaphysical idealism, technology, and artificial intelligence.
This week my guest is Bernardo Kastrup, who has an impressive background of working for CERN, the world’s largest and most advanced particle physics laboratory, has written 10 books, and holds a PhD in both computer engineering and philosophy.
During these years of honing his unique expertise, Bernardo developed his ideas of analytical idealism, building on the philosophy of metaphysical idealism. In the simplest terms I can explain it, Bernardo basically believes that there is no physical world, but rather that all of existence is experiential, a mental construct given form through our perceptions. We explore this idea in much more detail in the first half of this episode, and for the second half we discuss the implications of this worldview on innovation, technology, and culture. This includes exploring why Bernardo believes it’s impossible for an artificial intelligence to ever gain consciousness.
While Bernardo does a fantastic job explaining his ideas, I’ll warn listeners now that at times this is a very philosophical and potentially challenging conversation, as it demands questioning our foundational awareness of reality and consciousness. But for those who are interested in the topic, it is rich with thought-provoking ideas.
Learn more about Bernardo and his work at essentiafoundation.org or bernardokastrup.com
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Host: Steven Parton - LinkedIn / Twitter
Music by: Amine el Filali

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Комментарии : 65   
@hermansohier7643
@hermansohier7643 Год назад
People do not have conciousness but conciousness has people .
@sxsmith44
@sxsmith44 Год назад
He says… “the meaning of life is to collect insights not shoes”.
@krisc6216
@krisc6216 Год назад
20:27 “You didn't come into this world. You came out of it, like a wave from the ocean. You are not a stranger here.” - Alan Watts
@youtubecanal
@youtubecanal Год назад
We didn’t come to this world, the world came to us, peace by peace into our counsciosness.
@alexmerab4206
@alexmerab4206 Год назад
The one and only Bernardo Kastrup
@reggiehaleva2863
@reggiehaleva2863 Год назад
I can only say : THANK YOU BERNARDO ! Thanks from my heart from Brasil 🇧🇷
@angelotuteao6758
@angelotuteao6758 8 месяцев назад
Always so deeply grateful for Kastrup’s generosity in having these fascinating conversations on so many platforms- probably the most important thinker of our generation 🙏👏💯
@youtubecanal
@youtubecanal Год назад
Great guest. Bernardi has the advantage of having philosophical and meta thinking of seeing the better the big picture and traps of our conventional cosmovisions. Thank you for sharing…
@patriciaching6392
@patriciaching6392 Год назад
Forgiveness is the greatest weapon there is because it asks for nothing while revitalizes the feedback loop from the internal to the external. Great interview. Be sure to subscribe, click thumps up, share as today's oil is our data. Let it rain for nature.
@clownsreason
@clownsreason Год назад
Brilliant indeed
@scrollop
@scrollop Год назад
Such a good interview! And Steven is a great host and interviewer - asks great questions (going through the whole Singularity radio podcast series - some gems in there!).
@clivejenkins4033
@clivejenkins4033 9 месяцев назад
Bernardo knows exactly what he is talking about period
@vishaldesai05
@vishaldesai05 Год назад
Are these ideas similar to the construct of 'Maya' thats inherent in eastern philosophies?
@dwai963
@dwai963 Год назад
Awesome as always
@tribebuddha
@tribebuddha Год назад
Dvaita? Even a cow knows that it is a cow and there is the grass. Lol.
@dwai963
@dwai963 Год назад
@@tribebuddha what are you talking about?
@zensonproductions4627
@zensonproductions4627 Год назад
Bernardo.., I've been impressed with your extremely grounded, and logically derived deductions.., so please don't misunderstand my position, nor my inquiry. You assume that we are so far from creating a consciousness, mainly due to it being something that was before our existence, and therefore it's ridiculous to think we're going to make such.., but I must point out that although I agree with this conclusion., I also can't disregard the fact, that most of our species greatest discoveries were not intentional, rather, stumbled upon. We will not have the ability to create consciousness by choice, what is going to happen, is we will stumble upon such, by mistake., It's our ignorance that drives us into discovery.., for the better or worse. Not even the scientists involved thought the Atom bomb test was going to work.., whoops!! See what I'm saying..? Just saying, cheers 🤙🏾
@sxsmith44
@sxsmith44 Год назад
Considering this channel has 100k subscribers it’s very sad that only 2K have listened.
@descartes6797
@descartes6797 Год назад
Typical sign that the subscribers are not real subscribers, but purchased subscribers that is to say fake subscribers.
@HussainFahmy
@HussainFahmy Год назад
💚
@skymonmars
@skymonmars Год назад
A very interesting interview, thank you. I have a question, may I know the link of that Guru talk the interviewer is talking about at the end of this video? It is for study purposes, I would appreciate it a lot.
@sxsmith44
@sxsmith44 Год назад
“Jagadish "Jaggi" Vasudev, known by the honorific title Sadhguru, is an Indian yoga guru and proponent of spirituality.” That’s all I got.
@skymonmars
@skymonmars Год назад
@@sxsmith44 thank you
@innerlight617
@innerlight617 Год назад
Sadhguru is quite popular in India.He is a highly intelligent person,and he speaks a perfect English.Having said that,imho,what he says must be approached carefully with a critical mind. The most well known in the west spiritual teachers of modern advaita-non dualism,a philosophy,very close to Bernardo's analytic idealism are,Ramana Maharshi(1879-1950)and Nisargadatta Maharaj(1897-1981). Personally i have a huge amount of respect for both.
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 Год назад
Sadguru says some important things about soil health . All the ecological debate is central on climate change but other aspects like water shortage , human impact and soul health are equally important and implicated in climate change . Forgetting some negative facts about Sadguru's personal history , there is a ' shirt ' where he criticises and mocks Sri Ramana Maharshi. I can't take anyone's claim to being spiritual if they do that ! I prefer Sri Ramana Maharshi to N M because N M couldn't give up smoking until he was dying of smoking related illness .
@tribebuddha
@tribebuddha Год назад
@@skymonmars That Jaggi Vasudev is a charlatan and peddler of superstitions. He is not an exegete of the Vedic wisdom. He's all glamour.
@mindfulkayaker7737
@mindfulkayaker7737 Год назад
I agree with Dr Kastrup that physicalism can not be the only cause of evil behavior of humans because the main source of evil doing is the idea and feeling that we are separate individuals (no matter if these are individual souls as many religions states of individuals body minds as materialist la believe) however I don’t see how how materialists could believe and feel the we all including animals share the same being.
@imaginaryuniverse632
@imaginaryuniverse632 Год назад
44:00 I've been thinking about the placebo effect, yes because I think I'm brilliant, and it came to me that everything we experience may be a placebo effect in a way. I think Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is stated in scripture, yes scripture, as, as a man believes so is given unto thee. I have my doubts if this is strictly true but I think it often appears to be true and so can be useful. I was thinking they make a placebo with sugar or something that would have little actual effect on the body. It came to me, what if we tried using something that would be felt by the patient and even made a performance of the people around them to act as though the pill was some kind of big breakthrough and was certain to work. Yes I'm aware this raises many ethical questions but I'm just saying, What if... 🤔🐈🙏
@MadMax-gc2vj
@MadMax-gc2vj Год назад
There are so many beliefs just choose one that pulls your fancy.
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
What is gain of function ?
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
Maxwell's demon The dashboard gives you options right or left Good or bad Happy or sad ,,,etc You sort them out for yourself
@LeftBoot
@LeftBoot Год назад
'Marvel Multiverse Thread' 😂
@StephenPaulKing
@StephenPaulKing Год назад
I am a bit surprised that Kastrup misses the point that data does not have a single "physical reality", it has many. Many implementations exist for any non-trivial data set. The proof of this is easy to see in the concept of computational universality.
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
Ethics is an information problem that this idea solves
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
Well information needs conscious to use it Ask a pipe what water taste like
@thomassimmons1950
@thomassimmons1950 Год назад
I agree with Barnardo that the carnage in Ukraine is the definition of Tragedy. But who is responsible? Does that pose a legitimate concern for a "World as Will and Idea, or Representation?
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
Atom stacking and cold fusion will mean we do not need bots A proper understanding of reality means ,,we do not need robots to d our thinking
@michaeldillon3113
@michaeldillon3113 Год назад
Not that I am agreeing with his position but Stephen Hawking was very vocal in his concerns about AI . There are bigger concerns in the UK now amongst some sections that it might be difficult to control AI thinking - that it won't take onboard identity politics or may become racist . You can read all about it in the Guardian.
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
What falls out of this is Consciousness is non local
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
The way we could prove this has already been discovered We just have to prove the Universe is non local
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
He is asking what is consciousness
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
The difference is .............Like the fire to the sun
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
Program balh balh
@martam4142
@martam4142 Год назад
Fool.
@reivanen
@reivanen Год назад
I'm a bit surprised about kastrup's answer to the question if instruments can help us see beyond the cockpit view. Of course they do! We cannot see quantum tunneling or entaglement, but our isntruments can! So why he denied it twice leads me to believe he did not understand the question even at the host's second try. While the host seemed to have a hunch.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd Год назад
Instruments cannot see anything.
@johnnytass2111
@johnnytass2111 Год назад
It depends on the use of the instrument. I heard from Prof Sam Vaknin, physist of Chronon Field Theory, and psychologist, historian and economist, claim that technology for the past 50,000 years was used to extend human reach into reality (ex: wheels are an extension of our legs, etc). But ever since the Internet and AI, we have been developing technology to escape reality and instead explore our own fantasy worlds.
@reivanen
@reivanen Год назад
@@johnnytass2111 don't mix things up. What i said is that our instruments can "see" into how the reality works on a deeper level, while our perception is by definition limited to "the cockpit". What this means is that our instruments can give us data on how things behave beyond what human senses can resolve, and this data can allow our mind to "see" how things work beyond what is apparent or that which we can directly see using our senses.
@johnnytass2111
@johnnytass2111 Год назад
@@reivanen Yes. So when an instrument is used to explore external reality as technology was used for 50,000 years, one can make that case. Technology for the past 30 years has been developing to make us escape reality n live in our fantasy world.
@KruK666PL
@KruK666PL Год назад
@@reivanen You cant go beyound perception. Camera is meassure device. Make selife, and analyze data. If you beleive that you are made from pixels, than... .
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
The guy does not get it , he is explaining it properly what is the problem with these Uni thinkers A little box from the set of little boxes
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
If we can create zombies There are biological Zombies among us already
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
Wow you saids AI might happen then is making it Bernardos opinion
@barbarabartels5449
@barbarabartels5449 Год назад
you still are coming from the material world which is actually unified with the mysterious spiritual world, you don't see it yet. Maybe you will, maybe not????
@electroeedeegee
@electroeedeegee Год назад
THIS IS SIMPLY BUDDHISM. BUDDHA DISCOVERED THIS 2500 YEARS AGO. I THINK IS WRONG THAT HE DOESNT EVEN MENTION BUDDHA IT IS VERY GOOD TO SPREAD THIS KNOWLEDGE, BUT AT LIST HE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THESE IDEAS ARE ORIGINATED BY BUDDHA SHAKYAMUNI 2500 YEARS AGO
@phantomhawk01
@phantomhawk01 Год назад
I agree with you, Bernardo is spreading the word through other means to reach a broader audience, let him do his thing there is plenty out there already in religion and belief systems.
@jacklcooper3216
@jacklcooper3216 Год назад
Sky net blah blsah fantasy
@tenormin4522
@tenormin4522 Год назад
And here we come again. Sophism, word salad, intellectual babble. Word salad hailed as the answer to everything and this guy has it. It is sad that we do not see it clearly as this word salad cook.
@Jivanmuktaintraining
@Jivanmuktaintraining Год назад
Thank you for your input.
@LukasOfTheLight
@LukasOfTheLight 11 месяцев назад
How you did not see the irony of this comment before pressing reply baffles me
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