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Analyzing the Brilliant Characters of Devil May Cry - with Max Derrat - Part 1: Dante and Vergil 

ELAYZA
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Thanks for Max:
his channel: / @maxderrat
*Max basically not saying much and its just me talking to him :" but without him listening I won't be able to bring myself to narrate the video
Made this recording with Max back at the last week of 2023, so its been like 6 months I couldn't bring myself to start editing :"
But today I finally overcome the cringe of listening to my own voice, and made it.
We've been in a discord call, just chatting. He haven't played DMC yet, so its also been an opportunity for me to explain it to him.
Part 1 out of a three part session on three different days, divided by months sometimes..... you busy man...... ( in the other parts I talk about V and Urizen, and then Nero - they didn't turn out as good as this one, but we'll see if I can cook something out of it )
Content used:
Devil May Cry 1, 3, 4, 5 +Visions of V manga and the other manga ( I can't recall its name )
Music:
-Devils Never Cry - DMC 3 main theme
-Any Special Orders - Tropical Remix

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19 сен 2024

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@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
me: "Mundus breaks Vergil's amulet I guess........" - what happens in DMC 1: "Vergil literally drops his amulet after Dante defeats him...."
@DkKombo
@DkKombo 4 месяца назад
Lol literally me to my younger self: so I guess this happens My younger self: NO!! IT GOES LIKE THIS!! The way we accurately remember things as a matter of factly as kids lol
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
@@DkKombo yeah I just wasn't remembering that little detail for some reaon :"
@DkKombo
@DkKombo 4 месяца назад
@@LadyAsmodeus So what did break his mind? If you don't mind me asking
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
@@DkKombo oh Mundus took away his amulet I read~
@DkKombo
@DkKombo 4 месяца назад
@LadyAsmodeus Aha I figured. At least he gave it back. What a nice stone lava horror demon man.
@ChannelMiner
@ChannelMiner 4 месяца назад
And my soul is saying, it wants to stop you!
@nerothesky
@nerothesky 4 месяца назад
Interesting video, love the topic. There's so much to say about the symbolism/philosophy underlying the duality of these two, and there are a lot of potential parallels. You should check out the Japanese folktale "The Red Oni That Cried". I definitely agree with the mind/body interpretation, I hadn't thought about how it applied to Dante's lack of motivation. Probably the most overt reference is the juxtaposition of "style" and "concentration". Style is something physical while concentration is mental. An interesting detail is that Dante's amulet is silver and Vergil's is gold (in DMC3). There are a lot of interpretations for what that might mean, some that line up (god = divine, silver = earthly) and some that suggest the exact opposite (gold = sun, silver = moon). I like the idea that each of them possess an amulet that represents the other. I'm looking forward to the next parts. Your voice is lovely by the way, and the accent doesn't make it hard to understand. I'd definitely recommend scripting, solo recording and audio editing the next one. It's uncomfortable af for most people but the sooner you start the sooner you'll get more comfortable with it.
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
aw thank you for your very nice comment! :3 Yes, I also been thinking a lot about why Vergil has a golden amulet while Dante has silver, I thought it should be the opposite way around, since Vergil is more associated with the Moon, therefore he should get the silver one ( In DMC 1 however, both of them has silver amulet, guess they just haven't thought about it during development yet back then ) - However Vergil is also being associated with the Sun as well in the game multiple times ( For example his theme in dmc 1 - "Ultra violet" refers to the blue light of the Sun ) - So yeah its hard to tell a concrete conclusion about that theme, but Golden and Silver and what they represent could be interesting to look into, in terms of alchemy ( And the color of Gold is also featured on Nero's design and some yellow-ish can be seen on Vergil as well )
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
WAIT, OMG I KNOW YOUR CHANNEL :D I'm actually a subscriber of you~ love your DMC videos, been inspired by them a lot~
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
I read the blue oni tale today, and oh boy... what if Vergil just acts like the bad guy to make Dante look cool and a good guy........
@nerothesky
@nerothesky 4 месяца назад
@@LadyAsmodeusThank you! I’m glad you like the videos 😁 I don’t think it’s Vergil’s intent (at least consciously) to make Dante the good guy but it’s certainly the result of his actions. If he didn’t do what he did in 3 Dante would presumably remain detached from everything. It’s thanks to Vergil that he befriended humanity in the form of Lady. That being said I’m not too opposed to a reading where Vergil acts out seeking punishment like a child desperate for attention: prodding Dante to become the responsible one. It certainly matches his trauma.
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
@@nerothesky Yeah I also forgot to mention in the video that Vergil is also being the one in dmc 5 as well to motivate Dante out of his stagnation~ - even if he is split to V and Urizen this time, the two of them sort of working together to get dante to move
@KyrreEleison
@KyrreEleison 4 месяца назад
Thank you for the video
@KyrreEleison
@KyrreEleison 4 месяца назад
Oh I also wanted to say that Max is sooooo nice! Great kudos to him for recording it with you and being so supportive!
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
aw thats so nice of you :'3 I'll keep trying~
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
@@KyrreEleison yeah :3 we support each other since 5 years :" altho he rarely responds cause so busy and successful
@ikkaku699
@ikkaku699 Месяц назад
30 minute video about a Dante and Vergil analyzes? I have been blessed
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus Месяц назад
:3 aw
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 5 дней назад
29:47 that's actually a really cool and plausible theory, although there is one problem: it's confirmed by Nico that Dante did, infact, fully kill Vergil in his Nelo/Nero Angelo state
@comfortable_east
@comfortable_east 4 месяца назад
Don't worry a lot, Elayza. I have watched the oldest videos of countless big RU-vidrs, and they all were like you in the beginning :). Now idk, if you will pursue a career as a content creator or not, but if you do, with enough repetitions and practice, you will eventually become more confident in your ability to speak! I really enjoyed your funny edit videos of DMC5, so at least your editing skills are on point. I wish you all the very best in whatever you wish to achieve! Good luck!
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
aw thats so sweet of you t-t yeah I don't wanna give up :3
@jerm5466
@jerm5466 4 месяца назад
Halfway through the video just want to say you make some awesome connections, well done
@jerm5466
@jerm5466 4 месяца назад
Big fan of Max and DMC is one of my favorite series, this is awesome!
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
oh nice! :3
@vitaminka012
@vitaminka012 4 месяца назад
You're sweet and have avpretty voice. And the ideas you have are cool! So i definitely look for another part!
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
aaaawwwww
@Josh-G.
@Josh-G. 4 месяца назад
"mundus break vergil amulet" say whaaaaaaaaat????😭😭
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
yeah, no he just took it away :"
@viewtifulzet593
@viewtifulzet593 4 месяца назад
Kewl stuff!^_^
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
what the f is kewl?............oh I get it
@kain2924
@kain2924 4 месяца назад
I really enjoyed this, keep going! everyone cringes at the sound of their voice at first. Except Morgan Freeman cuz he's Morgan Freeman...
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
aw, glad you liked it :3 yeah I wish I had morgan freeman's voice
@xXRealXx
@xXRealXx 4 месяца назад
Others have said this and I agree with them: Actually, Dante represents humanity, and Vergil represents devils and evil. Just look at what Vergil did for all that power that he keeps yapping about: Temen-ni-gru (he puts a lot of people in danger by opening a portal to the Underworld, but he doesn't care about that because all he cares about is power). Meanwhile Dante struggles with accepting his devil side (he hates that he is a devil), which can be seen in the ending song Devils Never Cry: "Steal a soul for a second chance, but you will never become a man". Overtime, he starts to accept his devil side, because it gives him power to protect the ones he loves, and he can protect humanity with it. Since he neglected his devil side and it's power, he didn't have a Devil Trigger... Also, the Rebellion has the power to combine/merge devil with man. It's strange how DMC5's Dante Battle Song goes against this (Subhuman). But it also implies that he struggles with controlling his demonic power, but that never happens in the game, so idk why they went with that
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
Yeah tbh I don't remember much of Subhuman's lyrics cause I'm not a huge fan of it, I just switch it to Devils never cry when I play :'D But I don't think Dante struggles to control his power, thats more like Nero~ - yeah its interesting to consider that Dante struggles to accept his demon side - similarly to Nero - while Vergil hates his humanity in the beginning, I really wanted to mention that as well I think, but there wasn't much time to talk so in-debth
@xXRealXx
@xXRealXx 4 месяца назад
@@LadyAsmodeus At first I didn't like Subhuman but it has grown on me. But still, I like Devil Trigger and Crimson Cloud wayyyyyy more. And Bury the Light too. Crimson Cloud is interesting in that it not only refers to V himself, but also Dante and Vergil "Brothers in the dark, fight for your life!". Speaking of forgetting to mention things, Vergil growing the Qlipoth tree and becoming a mass murderer in the process is like so unimaginably evil and cruel. But, I'm not sure how much we can blame the real Vergil, because Urizen wasn't really him cuz he didn't have Vergil's memories but for some reason still remembered Dante??? My guess is that the reason Urizen remembered Dante is this: V still got some demonic power from the separation, meaning a little part of him is devil. Now because of this I think that Urizen inherited a little part of humanity, since if V got a little demonic power than why wouldn't Urizen have a little humanity in him too? Plus Dante says this when he consumes the Qlipoth fruit: "That last shred of humanity you had? You just lost it."
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
@@xXRealXx Yeah both Urizen and V inherited Vergil's memories, but they are technically a new person and a new being born out of him. Vergil's demon side expresses his yearning for power, and lacks any emotions - you can notice it even in Urizen's voice acting, thats why he sounds so robotic
@xXRealXx
@xXRealXx 4 месяца назад
@@LadyAsmodeus why does Urizen say that "He has no recollection of this tale" when Dante tells him what really happened, that their mother was still looking for him during that attack on their home?
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
@@xXRealXx I guess he is in denial - for example Vergil also says in the end "I have no recollection" when Dante teases him about their childhood. He remembers, just don't like talking about it :"
@NevilsicoShard
@NevilsicoShard 4 месяца назад
Reminds me of the two or three times my friends discussed DMC lore and characters *Channel link in description doesn't work
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
oh really, thanks for the heads up
@ChannelMiner
@ChannelMiner 4 месяца назад
Ur accent isn't bad, it was easy to understand your english.
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
thanks for the feedback~
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 5 дней назад
OMG! you sound so cute! not really relevant, i know, but i still wanted to pay you a compliment.
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 дня назад
oh thank you :3
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 дня назад
I'm having major issues with microphones right now, its noisy and not working, so no plans on doing voice commentaries any time soon unfortunately...
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 4 дня назад
@@LadyAsmodeus aw 😥
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 дня назад
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 I would like to try again tho, thats the dream to make voice commented videos
@miladbss7239
@miladbss7239 4 месяца назад
Even if your accent is not good you should try there is no harm in trying ❤
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 4 месяца назад
aw
@weirdface1846
@weirdface1846 3 месяца назад
i don't know why the way you say your voice and accent is weak and you can't bring yourself to talk while devils never cry plays in the background is emotional lmao
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 3 месяца назад
oh, I tried to explain that it is very hard for me to just read up a script or talk by myself to make a video, and my voice is not strong enough - I mean I never been talking a lot cause I have no one to talk to so it got weaker and kinda uncomfortable to talk, but when I talk to a friend through voice chat then I can feel comfortable talking, thats why I asked max to collab with me on a video~
@weirdface1846
@weirdface1846 3 месяца назад
@@LadyAsmodeus i know i know. i'm just saying that when you put it like that, and while devils never cry was playing the background, it seemed emotional lol and i see i'm sorry you have no one to talk to, i also don't have anyone to talk to save for my parents and family
@LadyAsmodeus
@LadyAsmodeus 3 месяца назад
@@weirdface1846 yeah well, that was the point :"D I love this game's soundtrack a lot, and put that song in the beginning to set up the mood
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