ANCESTORS: Our Psychological Inheritance

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The archetype of origins is in resurgence since the advent of ancestry-mapping programs. What are the psychological and symbolic meanings of ancestry? Identity is often strongly linked to ancestry in its ethnic and cultural aspects, and as the carrier of personal traits. Genealogy gives rise to meaning-making narratives such as: I get my talent for storytelling from my Irish forebears. Jung knew that family complexes are handed down when he said, “Psychologically, the central point of a human personality is the place where the ancestors are reincarnated.” Genograms, another mapping technique, allow us to trace those intellectual and emotional family patterns. Every individual rests on a historical foundation of family, tribe, clan, and nation-and, at levels below consciousness, we are also affected by our common roots in the primeval past and the mysterious central fire of life. In order to differentiate from this multi-layered context, it can help to know it.
HERE'S TJHE DREAM WE ANALYZE:
"I was in a quaint English village. Next to the village ran a river, and on the other side of this river were fields. A traditional Cotswold stone bridge joined both sides of this river. Suddenly, I seemed to be competing in some sort of local race. I was competing in this race against 2 friends/girls (unknown to me). I remember pushing myself past one of the girls to place first in this race. I remember feeling a little self-conscious of the fact that I had not let this friend of mine win, and hoped that she didn't think I was being a "dick". The race centered and finished around the bridge joining both sides of the river. As I stood on this bridge and looked down at the river, I noticed a dog (possibly a Springer Spaniel) was drowning. I felt a strong urge to save this dog, and felt sad that it was in such distress. As I looked on in horror I noticed some netting was beginning to cover the surface of the river (a bit like when you cover a pond or swimming pool). I knew at that point the dog was going to die, as it could no longer come up for air. I could hear sirens in the distance, which seemed to indicate both the possibility of help and danger in the form of police sirens (something/someone coming to reprimand me). It was forbidden to jump in the river but I did it anyway. I pulled the dog out of the river, at which point I noticed it had morphed into a Seal. I began to care for this Seal, and in doing so, it again morphed in to a small, podgy young boy. I held the young boy in my arms, and I told myself, "I'd do it all again despite the potential danger". I was relieved I had saved the dog - seal - young boy. There was a sense of heroic accomplishment."
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Monica McGoldrick. Genograms: Assessment and Treatment. a.co/d/4uDtrjE
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@helendickinson9169 2 года назад

I went to Constellation Workshop many years ago to support a friend. I was amazed how the energy came through the participants that knew nothing of the history. But what also amazed me was that I was chosen to represent the daughter of the individual who was having issues with her daughter and it represented the similar situation I was going through with my own mother.

@sterlgirlceline 6 месяцев назад

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️You all and your podcast have enriched my life so deeply. 💛

@pamelacanler5338 6 дней назад

Just a comment on ACOA that you mentioned and thought it might be absorbed in Alanon. Actually I have found great help in the ACOA groups in my community. They dive into family of origin, our adaptation to that and the process of individuation. 😊🌺

@gwendolynmurphy9563 Год назад

So proud of my Irish heritage, borne on my father's name; only to learn through Ancestry DNA most of my genetic material is English, the colonizers. Legacy burden from mother's family, as her family history traces back to pre-Colonial Virginia landowners, my maternal grandfather a known member of a small-town KKK, my eligibility to join Daughters of the American Revolution. You can connect the dots! Isabelle Wilkerson's "Caste" makes a strong case for investigating family-trait inheritance!

@marleyxen 3 года назад

I remember speaking with Lisa a handful of times about intergenerational trauma as a Jewish-American, and how it made me fearful of authority and being "othered". I am skeptical that these things are genetically or even necessarily spiritually transferred so much as non-verbally taught through generations, though that is still an unconscious process.

@gwendolynmurphy9563 Год назад

Alan Watts' "fundamental ground of being" might relate to that primal level.

@gwendolynmurphy9563 Год назад

"...a predisposition for the faery world . . ." could have come from both my parents! Scots-Irish-Welsh amidst English dominance: landowners clearing the land of peasants to make more money raising cattle!

@Chadthefatherbear 4 года назад

I’m somewhat familiar with the concepts behind cross-generational trauma, but entertaining it mostly seems like a convenient way to hand someone a self-victimizing narrative. Thoughts?

@DemisedDill 4 года назад

Stop ingesting Jordan Peterson without critically questioning his material

@DemisedDill 4 года назад

MrAhuraMazda187 MrAhuraMazda187 How have I not used critical thinking? What have I written that even allows you to make that evaluation? What do you mean by “people like you”? Your bias is showing here. That’s baseless claim number one. I’ll move on to the others. What is your basis that cross generational trauma does not exist? You have provided no evidence or reason besides stating that it doesn’t. The APA and psychological community has done research and validated that this is an existing construct. More specifically, we’d have to define what we mean by cross generational trauma, which is separate from the archetypes of the collective unconscious might I add. You have a weak understanding of systemic and psychoanalytic theory. Insofar that we accept the Freudian and Jungian idea that energy circulates through the body with a form that can exist as mental energy (also referred to as libido by Freud or chakra by Hinduism) then we can theorize about the transfer of emotional energy from those within social systems (a head nod towards family systems theory). It is not far fetched to imagine that the energy that trauma subsumes can be passed through genetics (genetic aspects not even being an integral part of the argument) and/or through communication. So when those grandparents speak of the Holocaust (many of which refused to even discuss though unprecedented rates of mental illness existed in the following generation who may have had little understanding of previous circumstances, which ofc could be explained by many things) some of that trauma is discharged vicariously - thus showing cross-generational trauma. To claim that the grandchildren who listened to that were traumatized solely by the story and not by the emotionality and relatedness in that family system that intertwines them is utter nonsense. Please name the books that Jung wrote on archetypes having no cultural inheritance. Even if he did write this, that doesn’t mean it’s true. He was cracking the ground on something unprecedented, he stated many times that his theories would continue to evolve. I believe that base archetypes do exist regardless of ethnicity. But I do believe certain archetypes form, expression, and frequency is culturally dependent and based in that cultures experiences PARTICULARLY if they are collectivistic. Jung is a man of his time who existed in a deeply fragmented society that was deeply individualistic, his bias exists and affects his theories just like yours-head nod towards Nietzsche and Kant. Lastly, epigenetics is not a solved field. We are still unsure what can and cannot be transferred genetically. It is not absurd to think that the relationship between genes and environment that one currently experiences cannot be passed down to our children in a different form. What is your investment in trying to separate people from what they feel to be a connection with the experiences of their ancestry, good and bad? Your culture does not value ancestry or see ancestry as a continuation of the self. That does not make what you believe a truth statement. The truth is that you don’t know.