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Ancha Cliff Dwelling: Hiking to Cold Spring Ruin (AKA: The Crack House) 

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PLEASE READ: due to accelerated deterioration of some of these ruins in recent years, I won't answer any questions regarding their location beyond clues found in the videos. Information has become plentiful over the past 15-20 years, so due diligence will be rewarded for those that appreciate this stuff. And please, if you do seek them out, be respectful of the cultures that built them, as well as those who enjoy and appreciate them, and leave things the way you found them...

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@dangerouslyclever
@dangerouslyclever 8 месяцев назад
I found and visited this ruin twice in the 1980s, the original ladders were still in place at that time. It wasn’t listed on any map that we had. Miniature corncobs were scattered throughout on the cave floor. I remember the turn in the cave and the “porch” overlook. I had no idea of the name, The Crack House. Thanks fo posting, your video brought back a lotta memories.
@blackflowersblacksun5781
@blackflowersblacksun5781 5 месяцев назад
This is all interesting and cool, but is it ethical. As mentioned in the statment below, in the 1980's the site had considerably more artifacts. I believe current etiquette is "Dont touch, enter or crawl on historical structures.
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 5 месяцев назад
If you were to actually visit this area, along the main corridor (a road that I won't mention for my own reasons, as expressed in my description), you would see multiple signs posted by the USFS welcoming visitors to the sites and informing them of the rules. We did not break any of the rules set forth by ARPA or the USFS.
@bighashgang1990
@bighashgang1990 3 года назад
My father took me camping in the Anchas as a young boy, his friends went hiking to.a cave the spotted with binoculars, they found a mummified Indian baby inside with some other artifacts, they called the rangers but the rangers said they already know about the baby and the cave and said to stay away so they never went back
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 3 года назад
Wow, I literally have dreams about that kind of experience. I wonder if it is all still there? Those mountains are full of hiding spots...
@markeverson5849
@markeverson5849 2 года назад
Never ever under any circumstances reveal to the government what is out there because they will only take it from you they will let government archaeologist into Rob everything and then they will blame you when they are responsible for killing the Native Americans murdering them Across America get real We Are The Authority know who your enemy is we own the land our parents and grandparents paid for it now we are paying for it and our grandchildren it belongs to you and me :-) this land is your land this land is my land remember watch out for these Communists they only pretend to be your friend as long as you have money and you are kept in the fence there plans for the world is not good these feds are working in accord with the New World Order communists genocide in control FEMA camps they get paid to heard you like cattle they do it for the dollar and they will put you in prison if they can you don't have to be guilty of anything but being alive
@bighashgang1990
@bighashgang1990 2 года назад
@@Gotdurt Well as far as I know it's still there, they said they have things in the ground that detect when someone digs or disturbed the ground idk if that's true though but i do know the cave is extremely well hidden and it's a very treacherous hike, the guys got back and were damn near dead from the hike 😆there's also a rancher with lots and lots of acres and on his land he found an old spaniard wedged between a big crevice in the side of the rock and all that was left was his metal chest and back plate with an arrow through the front, he said most likely he was hit by an Indians arrow and laid up in the crevice until he succumbed to his wound, the arrow was still intact and sticking through the front of his chest plate, the bones had since deteriorated and been scattered by animals but his helmet was also close by, the only reason I know this to be a true story is because my father knows the rancher and he showed us pictures of when he found it and we also saw the chest and back armor with the arrow through it and the helmet, he has it sitting in his living room on his ranch
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 2 года назад
@@bighashgang1990 Wow! That's amazing! And you know there are likely still other such Spaniards out there... that would be a wild thing to see and take-in... It's like these archeological sites; you hear/read the stories and see the pictures, etc, and that's interesting, but to see them in person, much the way they were left (without restoration, etc, like in parks), hand prints in the adobe, tools and pottery pieces scattered about, and then you're connected to it and the reality really sets in...
@bighashgang1990
@bighashgang1990 2 года назад
@@Gotdurt exactly bro
@phillivingston8237
@phillivingston8237 4 года назад
Amazing hidden treasure behind the wall. I felt like I was right there with you. Your camera work definitely depicted the difficulty level of the final ascent. I especially appreciated following you down the descent. Thank you for sharing the suspenseful adventure with us.
@sandysue202
@sandysue202 2 года назад
At 71, I can now just watch others do what I once would and could have! Cool beans!! Thank you for the adventure!
@NuclearNoMore
@NuclearNoMore 8 месяцев назад
A wonderful hike- the cliff dwelling was astounding- I watched that part again, and will again later, I'm sure. How I would love to stay there (with the utmost respect) for a few days to clear my mind and get back to nature! The Prickly Pear '"skeleton'" just above the turn in the trail is fun to see. Thanks very much, guys!
@teotwaki
@teotwaki 8 месяцев назад
Isn't "accelerated deterioration" due to thoughtless people climbing on and into these ruins as well as stomping around inside?
@samuelfox8126
@samuelfox8126 6 месяцев назад
Keyboard warrior
@teotwaki
@teotwaki 6 месяцев назад
@@samuelfox8126 so says the teenager in his Mommy's basement
@samuelfox8126
@samuelfox8126 6 месяцев назад
That's some funny and wrong speculation. More evidence of keyboard warrior.
@teotwaki
@teotwaki 6 месяцев назад
@@samuelfox8126 Ha ha ha. I feel so threatened by your minuscule bellicosity. I hope your keyboard can withstand your faux outrage.
@samuelfox8126
@samuelfox8126 6 месяцев назад
More evidence
@2FRESH-4U
@2FRESH-4U 7 месяцев назад
It’s amazing to think of the people that lived there
@TheAnarchitek
@TheAnarchitek 6 месяцев назад
The ravine below was probably filled with water, when the peoples who built that, and many of the other Anasazi dwellings, lived in the region. The Anasazi were descendants of the Fremont People, who began moving into southern Utah circa 700-500BC,, when the area was still mostly flooded, an inland sea covering the area from the gap at the eastern end of the Uintah Mountains, to the Mogollon Rim, north-south, and from the San Francisco Peaks, on the west, to the Sierra Nacimientos, on the east. It took the better part of two millennia (the water arrived centuries before the Fremonts) for the water to drain away, and when it did, when life-enabling water was too far away, the Anasazi "walked away", in search of "greener" pastures, leaving all the ruins, the ridge-top their earliest abodes, the cliff-sides the interim residences, and the plains constructs, like Chaco and Wupatki, late-term, or "the water is going away", locations.
@DavidHallSquatchbait
@DavidHallSquatchbait 2 года назад
Awesome..thanks for sharing !!
@markeverson5849
@markeverson5849 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing and what was up on top of the wooden floor and the timbers? And I could see that the Timbers the floorboards were black from smoke from having cooking fires and Fires for heat and light by the Native Americans:-) also did you notice there was it look like panthertracks cougar or Lynx or Bobcat when you went through that passage in the dust of the floor
@Jlopez2207
@Jlopez2207 7 месяцев назад
By your breathing difficulty you must be around 5 thousand feet above sea level. Those might be burial grounds
@scrubstronaught
@scrubstronaught Год назад
I just attempted these ruins yesterday, its a scary trail! I didn't make is to the ruins. going to try again next year!
@yosmith1
@yosmith1 5 лет назад
I won't ask you where, I would rather watch you bust your aZZ to get to these amazing places. :) Great stuff!
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 5 лет назад
It's okay, I'll tell you, because I know you are too old to get to these sites anyway :P
@yosmith1
@yosmith1 5 лет назад
It better be ADA compliant or I'm filing a complaint
@Tonkerton87braham
@Tonkerton87braham 4 года назад
Hey, can you send me the coordinates? I'll send you some of the cave of a thousand eyes in haunted canyon
@Tonkerton87braham
@Tonkerton87braham 4 года назад
@@mikehenry4743 did the hike last year December! It was amazing and I will definitely go back. Let me get those coords for you, do you have an email so I dont have to post them in a comment section for all too see?
@drewb5738
@drewb5738 3 года назад
@@Tonkerton87braham I’ve been looking for that cave for years. Any clues?
@scooper4981
@scooper4981 2 года назад
Thank you for taking us along on your adventure. An amazing structure and incredibly well-preserved. Any idea of its age? I watched the entire video and looked at the comments, but I didn't see anything that addresses the purpose of this structure. (if I missed it, I apologize). Given its inaccessibility, and lack of food sources, I assume this wasn't a place where people lived on a permanent basis. Was this possibly used for ceremonial purposes? I guess any theories of its use would be speculative, unless there was some archaeological evidence indicating that people lived there for an extended period. I hope it remains intact and people don't take anything from it. Thanks again!
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 2 года назад
From what I've read, most of the Anchan cliff dwellings were built around 1270-1290 and occupied until the early 1300s. They did live in these, albeit for a short time (up to 50 years, max) and they are defensive in nature, so they might have been avoiding other tribes. All of these have water nearby, whether it's springs/seeps and/or creeks. The ceremonial sites seem to be mostly found in hilltop pueblos, which are also found in the area.
@scooper4981
@scooper4981 2 года назад
@@Gotdurt Thanks for your answers. I had read that these hard-to-reach cliff structures were built as a means to help protect the occupants from enemies. Had to be a difficult existence, to say the least. Thanks again!
@imthenoid69
@imthenoid69 8 месяцев назад
Wow thats cool. Thanks for the footage hiking in. Now I know I cant do that! Lol
@takingu2skoo
@takingu2skoo 4 года назад
Awesome video. I wonder how much longer till its no longer there cause humans love to destroy stuff
@michaelpacnw2419
@michaelpacnw2419 2 года назад
Destroy stuff? What your looking at is evidence that humans build stuff. It would not be there if we didn't. Same modern humans, a thousand years apart.
@timliscum2861
@timliscum2861 3 года назад
can you image the effort required to get those logs up there// woof
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 3 года назад
Yeah, especially considering that most of it probably came from the forests of the higher elevations above these canyons. I have a theory that they harvested the logs, then dropped/lowered them down, rather than hauling them the long way down/around, then back up into the canyons... that would have been a lot of work.
@zband9016
@zband9016 3 года назад
Talk about those beams being sturdy. They're over some 400 to 600 years old and they're still holding the same weight? Pretty good by my estimation. Loved the walk through. I'm the type that would love to do some things like this but am not able to do so. Having someone walk you through it when you've already been to some cave dwellings, is like being there yourself. Thanks!!!
@43cdb
@43cdb 3 года назад
Rules for Visiting Archaeological Sites and National Parks We want you to have an enjoyable and safe time. Historical and cultural parks are very special places and require that we take extra care to preserve them. Once a cultural site is harmed, it can not be repaired, and we lose an important pat of history. 1) Stay on designated trails in order to protect fragile cultural sites, fragile desert soils, plants, and animals. 2) Look with your eyes, but not your fingers. Do not remove things from or add things to (i.e., garbage, graffiti) these places. The artifacts, plants, rocks, and animals are all protected in all national parks, and should stay where you see them. It is better to take a photo or draw a sketch. 3) Respectfully visit these places. Treat these special places the way you would if you were entering a church, mosque, or synagogue. Running, yelling, and horseplay are not appropriate. 4) No rock climbing. Do not climb or sit on the fragile walls of ancient buildings, and do not climb the natural canyon walls. Also, do not throw rocks from the tops of the canyons. 5) Drink plenty of water and eat snacks. Do not leave camp without plenty of water and snacks. 6) Pay attention to your surroundings and what you are doing. Watch for safety hazards such as rough and uneven trails, drop-offs along the trails, loose rocks, etc. 7) Watch the weather. The weather can change quickly, and thunderstorms and lightning are a possibility. Stay away from cliffs and overlooks if there is lightning or thunder. I understand and agree to follow these rules in all archaeological sites and National parks we visit. Print Name _______________________________________________ Sign Name ________________________________________________ Date _____________
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 3 года назад
Not sure what your point is; first of all, this is not a national park. Second, even if it was, we did not break any of the rules you posted, so the argument is moot.
@garydoyle7155
@garydoyle7155 2 года назад
you seem to assume a lot of facts not in evidence Mr. Wanna-be Ranger and you left out the 50 year rule regarding anything man made in a National Park. As someone who grew up in Arizona and hunted all over the state in some pretty inaccessible areas like the Salt River Canyon, The Superstitions and Mogollon Rim I came across many significant archaeological finds that we reported to that department at ASU for investigation and study. I also was lucky enough to go with the forest service personnel to assess an ancient site in the Blue River Wilderness area. Back in the 1960s when I went through Canyon De Chelly you could actually walk through the White House ruins and many other of the cliff dwellings but now thanks to people who feel they some how deserve to take a piece of history home or deface it by proclaiming to the world that they had been there you must view so many of these sites from a distance. It is a sad commentary on the human condition that they cannot simply appreciate what they see and merely remember it or take pictures. I wish I had the devices we have now back then - - when I think about things I wanted to check out that I could've quickly located and assessed with a drone never mind have recorded footage of it boggles the mind. Many old structures and mines some 50 or more years later are now only visible in my mind as they have gone back to nature which is why I appreciate folks who take the time and put the sweat equity in to record things that are rapidly going the way of the dinosaurs. To the guys that made this video thanks - - to Mr. Bowen I think you'll find its much easier to breathe when your nose isn't stuck up someone else's ass
@Frogcreek1938
@Frogcreek1938 8 месяцев назад
Do you ever find any artifacts or has someone taken them all and where did they bury their people ?
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 8 месяцев назад
Some have been taken, most most ot the site I've been too still have a lot of artifacts. If you look at my Cooper Fork video, you'll see a nice metate.
@danvango
@danvango 2 года назад
great vid, what out for snakes and the dust
@josebenitez7741
@josebenitez7741 4 года назад
That's a bad dude ! Good climb, worth the climb i'd say , good job thanks
@desert-walker
@desert-walker 7 месяцев назад
Interesting never been there
@kprairiesun
@kprairiesun 3 года назад
Scary dangerous!
@user-ic4kw3vr6i
@user-ic4kw3vr6i 6 месяцев назад
Cool I would have guessed that hiking to a 'crack house' would be that awesome 💯🤭
@ishgumi44
@ishgumi44 8 месяцев назад
dude! I can hear your heartbeat on the camera recording..
@Charlie-do6wv
@Charlie-do6wv 8 месяцев назад
And to think back in the day the natives who inhabited those dwellings probably made the climb barefoot.🤔
@Tigrisszem27
@Tigrisszem27 8 месяцев назад
Man to Man Wolf!!!😳
@anthonyhitchings1051
@anthonyhitchings1051 3 года назад
keep climbing all over them, and they certainly won't last
@michaelpacnw2419
@michaelpacnw2419 2 года назад
Yes, and never dig archaeological sites because they won't last either... Do you wish to preserve them for alien archaeologists in 100 million years? Did you notice these are RUINS? documenting them now is the best way of preserving them and learning from them. These never would have been discovered if not for adventurous people.
@rainbowboa100
@rainbowboa100 Год назад
another videographer who thinks the ground is the most important thing in the video!
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt Год назад
🤔
@carmineredd1198
@carmineredd1198 2 года назад
spring in the cave
@standingbear998
@standingbear998 8 месяцев назад
not very pleasant staring at the moving ground. that wood work is not that old. They could not cut boards and beams like that.
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 8 месяцев назад
The camera is mounted to my chest, looking straight ahead; if you see "ground", it's because I'm climbing, which should give you an idea of the terrain that has to be crossed to reach them. There were no "boards", and any "beams" were just tree trunks and branches stripped to poles. Nothing is saw-cut.
@Pbav8tor
@Pbav8tor 7 месяцев назад
What were these cliff dwellers so afraid of?
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 7 месяцев назад
My understanding is, mostly other tribes.
@Kris-willow
@Kris-willow 6 месяцев назад
All the disrespect shown in this video. Please watch other channels who show nothing but respect for this historic locations. Maybe head over to The trek planner and learn how you guys need to approach these locations and take notes. Because your stupidity was showing!
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 6 месяцев назад
The irony here is that you used the word "stupidity", when I believe you meant "ignorance". With that said, no "disrespect" was demonstrated; we were very careful not to damage or move anything, and left nothing behind. Now, perhaps you should go taunt someone else (I'm sure you will), lest I make you feel... "stupid" 😉
@Kris-willow
@Kris-willow 6 месяцев назад
@@Gotdurt no, I used the right words!
@Gotdurt
@Gotdurt 6 месяцев назад
​@@Kris-willow Then perhaps you should learn some definitions, because it makes you look... again... stupid 🤔😘
@markeverson5849
@markeverson5849 2 года назад
I spend a lot of time in these dwellings and I never called them ruins because they are still my home I live I eat I pray I sleep there in these places I travel by night and I Glide from One Bluff to another sometimes people see me and they call the so-called authorities I think it's a joke better off to call your girlfriend
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