Great to see these kinds of videos back on the channel. Giving the basics of what's happening and breaking down the technical stuff is great for viewers who aren't electricians, like myself and many others
Hey Reuben, kitchen sinks required supplementary bonding under the 15th edition, which that DB looks like it's from. These days, the use of rcd's negates the need for supplementary bonding 👌
These kind of videos are great back to basics videos, entertaining but informative. It might seem like repetition but every job is unique as is the banter that goes with it. Great direction of travel!
Trunking okay? As long as it doesn’t get covered in pain in horrible ways and if it’s applied in a neat manner it’s definitely not ideal but compared to the cost of chasing out a wall I would say it’s preferable in some cases.
I fit meters and it’s happened once where no consumer unit, just a bunch of old switches from when the house was built, full lead carcass etc safe to say I didn’t do the job
I don't have a consumer unit. Don't like fuses - the things were always tripping right when I was in the middle of a film or something so me and my pal bill spent the weekend ripping out big brothers "consumer unit" and hardwired all the circuits to the incoming feed on a strip of connector blocks. Don't miss a moment of telly now as no fuses to trip! pro tip.
I was working for a company and part of my job was fitting earth bonding, some difficult ones ,starting in the back kitchen under the cupboards up the wall in trunking under the floorboards down a wall in trunking then underground downstairs floorboards and then to the consumer unit near the front door. It was a old house so the walls where high and large rooms too. Another job going under the floorboards in a hatch with not much room to turn around
1980's property. The old 8 way Wylex fusebox with 2 free slots is located in the outside meter cupboard which is a no no these days. To free up space in order to fit a smart meter the fusebox needs to be relocated and replaced by a modern consumer unit with rcbo's. Unfortunately the Wago relocation box is bigger than the existing fusebox so pointless from the point of view of freeing up space. Maybe a smaller enclosure with standard DIN rail terminal blocks instead of the the Wago ?
Very nice boys.............lots of learning. Just wondering what are the regs, if any in regards to using the mini trunking you so expertly showed here. What are the advantages/disadvantages of using trunking?
A question and possible idea for a video for ya is, have you worked on a metal framed house? if so, what are the hazards, regulation considerations etc? We have quite a few metal framed dwellings oop north so any input is welcome!
As a DIYer with a background in computer electronics, I would love to know the route to take so I can effectively be on a approved person scheme as a domestic installer, so I can sign off my own work such as house rewire or replacing my CU. I want to do the 18th Ed, Part P, testing PAT courses and be in a position so not need to go through building control, does such a route exist with the few of us DIYers with too much free time and money to throw at courses but not interesting in being a Tradie or running a business?
Don't think you can - would also like to go down similar route just out of interest, but think you need two years of experience for Part P - don't see how you can legitimately get that without working in the industry.
That’s not the best route because you have to do that and pay a competent person scheme quite a bit of money this is gonna cost probably in total the same amount as hiring someone you might as well just notify building control. You’re going to do it before you do it, which is an option.
The tails clamp are a gimmick and provide very little tails support. Pick a brand that has twin terminal main switches, far better solution when trying to eliminate tails disturbance and a safer connection to boot.
So if I wanted to upgrade the unit and add one extra device, the next contractor has to disconnect every circuit in the board to drop the busbar out, fit the new device and then remake every other connection? Surely that presents a safety issue with loose connections possible. The Wylex and Crabtree units, you only remove the one device or blank and fit the new device. The rest of the connections stay intact.
It’s important to know that anyone who is competent in this should be okay with doing this to the correct rating of tightness dropping out a bus bar is not particularly hard and the power should be turned off anyway to work in the board so it just enforces that that happens
Most of the case parts of the houses installation may need upgrading or it may not. This is not a get a quote on the Internet thing as some companies make it seem it could be a few few hundred it could be a few thousand it really depends on the scale of work that needs doing.
Because if you strike it with something like a back of a hammer that hammer is going to become earth as the earth wire has less protection around it before it becomes live
It’s to do with the fact that switch gear should be in a metal enclosure. It’s because an protective device failing is more likely if it’s for instance breaking a higher perspective fault current then it’s rated for which should never be the case but something like that would be a very dramatic failure.
Don’t remind me, walk past the bakelite front of my wooden consumer unit in my hall every day, with the old Wylex fuse replacement breakers. My flat is a mess of botches, it’ll never take an RCD and a full rewire is so far out of my skill set as a controls spark.
John and several office staff. Lee is still there. He is the only qualified sparks working for Artisan while Jordan is away showing us his clips of shocking electrics around Asia
Hope you had permission to cut the seals on the electric meter and that you sealed with your unique identity seal.....ex meter fixer.....the meter operator should have been consulted and offered the opportunity to fit the isolator as that's the reason why it fitted so that electricians Don't touch the exit tails and the seals, which are traceable.
Obviously people will be saddened by the sacking of John, such a gentle soul, amazing teacher on camera. That sort of things happened, being honest. Big companies go bankrupt, Jordan you have created a community, next time be straight and upfront, like your second video addressing the matter. Fans,people' will get hurt, cruise into the healing process. Keep shining ✨️. Good luck to John
@@gregcressey1791 Think he was made redundant rather than sacked, there is a video from New Year's Day on the subject so there is no smoke and mirrors. My own opinion is we are past the peak and either the bottom is slowly dropping out of the EV and Solar market, or it's become saturated.
I know you cannot fight the regs but does anyone find it curious that a consumer unit must be a metal closure but the extender box (Wiska/Wago) is plastic - surely from a common sense perspective it should be a metal enclosure too?
With so many available ' ways ' and blanks perfect opportunity to spread out the circuits... especially the higher load ones ... recent talk of excessive heat ... with rcbo,s. not dissipating head . thats where blanks could come in
Apart from this becomes a pain because if you want to add something such as 210 amp circuits for outside lights, you may need to shift all the breakers around so that they’re in the recommended placement because of being correctly ordered due to rating or something like adding sheds in both on a 32 amp of minemay need re-shuffling and if the labelling has been done with like a label maker or something people are just gonna scribble over it and it will look scrappy
Cannot understand how he can charge 100ph per person when they arnt qualified plus the 2 that were qualified were corey lee and john and john is gone corey is gone so that madness yet a customer is paying top wack sorry not acceptable and it showsmwhat sort of buisness its running i hope hes honest with the customer and they are aware especially when insurance companys say quaified competent person which these lads arnt qualified
In NZ they would at least need a training licence to carry out the work - even then there needs to be a fully qualified spark to inspect the work BEFORE its made live otherwise they could be prosecuted
Question about the wago box, considering is basically a consumer unit in its own way, should the box be metal as well if someone know I would love too know.
The thought is no...... The fire risk comes (mainly) from switching components rather than joining components. No switching happens in the Wago box, therefore not necessary.
14way box is overkill, workboots and drilling on unprotected carpets, trunking on polished table, unqualified personnel, is this client being charged the usual extortionate rates for Artisans "elite electricians".
No way may be worse if people were considering certain things like adding solar or adding electric vehicle charging or electric heaters or adding circuits in the future as this type of thing being added results in multiple consumer units
you throw away breakers. Stupid question. You don't resell them, you never buy used breakers, don't play around with this. This is so obvious that it was never even stated in BS7671, it's like asking if you should put your tongue on live wires.
Actually buying used is definitely okay because there are many sellers that will use the proper test equipment to check the breakers. They’re okay in cases where it’s a board but the breakers have simply been discontinued and the newer ones are slightly different. It is definitely worth it if it’s compliant, which is not available.
3.25mtr wall, 3mtr trunking........ Cut off half inch to fit........ Rofl. This is why new builds are so naff. Dual scale tape measures should be banned.
Including property protection is primary as well as protecting people because of your house is burning down but you’re alive in your bedroom you’re not going to stay alive
What you need to realise is you can still charge full price not being qualified if it’s inspected and signed off appropriately the fact it is quite simply a customer should be paying for the quality of work not for the level of your qualifications
No, it’s really the point where the consumer can isolate circuits. Turn them back on or reset them. If they trip out the name makes it clear what the person using the electricity in the house can generally do.
I cant wait to retrain and get out of electrical trade, isnt worth it at all, they expect more and more, ever evolving but the pay nowhere near enough.
@UKsystems that's pretty ridiculous but there's two different sides, self employed and employee. The employee, if good should be on a lot if they need sparkies so much.
Hi keep it up you are doing a great job and having fun making some brilliant videos superstar Ali Walsall west midlands england junction 10 m6 Walsall churckery
When i watch you tube sparkies ...and they look at consumer units or inside cupboards...Its always a comment/ whine. about the previous guys ...So are you tube sparks the only ones doing it right ?
7M30 Concrete Ceilings are usually in metal conduit and the conduit is used for the CPC and with the light fitting in the living room you can get a hanging loop box top to hang the lamp fitting more! securely
That cupboard makes it difficult to access the work area and isn't a storage cupboard with electrics a potential fire hazard having both ignition and flammable material together? Personally, I would remove the shelf during works and replace afterwards.
Still amazes how small those consumer units are in the UK. Over here in Belgium wiring an entire house and I'm using one for 72 modules that's gonna be nearly full. Every circuit breaker needs to be 2 pole, max 8 sockets/lights per circuit, nearly everything behind a 30ma differential, max 8 circuit breakers per differential. And nearly all stuff like washing machine, dryer, heating, ventilation, needs their own dedicated circuit.
We definitely will install more circuits on a new property in this case when it’s retro fitting it’s slightly different. We do have 30 mA RCD protection fitted. There are some cases where it isn’t needed but it’s generally put on everything. We don’t have strict limits on sockets per circuit and things like that or lights, but we have calculations available to calculate whether it’s a suitable amount due to the low back can be put on many of the RCDO we can get our definitely double pole now
Big risk showing a video of how to change a fuseboard when the guy isnt qualified yet? Jordan has totally lost touch with reality. The on site team at Artisan are Lee, Luke and Reuben? Where is the Leadership coming from?
It's bollox way the Part P schemes are implemented. 1 QS in the office signing off (probably unseen) work of dozens of part qualified trainees and labourers, for the same registration fee as a one man band. Every single spark should be registered, or none at all otherwise it's not a level playing field. Glad I'm retired now.
@@DICEGEORGE That and the meter with one big trip switch, that's it. We're meant to be having it fitted sometime in the spring while getting a full inspection of the house (EICR basically)
