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IT HURTS SO MUCH BRO

So freaking much 😢😢

Totally agree. Was just starting to get going

This series was gold

For real

I blame it on the soap opera like drama. I didn't get into Stargate for that.

@@erikleorga Yes - I completely agree. We already have a "soap opera on a spaceship" series. It's called Battlestar Galactica !!

crime to who ever approve the show.

@@erikleorga Exactly the reason most don't like it, the premise was a great idea and had so much potential but there were episodes where it was just people arguing and going against each other, and oh there might have been a gate shown I think, in some episodes!! It needed a carter and a Mckay on board pulling that thing to bits, figuring it out and showing awesome stuff, whilst at the same time visiting worlds, getting supplies etc... and perhaps meeting some new races. It got boring so quick I think I got half way through season 1, and I have tried to rewatch it a couple of times and just can't!!! Plus the seething anger they cancelled Atlantis which was getting fantastic for it, still annoys me today.

@@erikleorga I don't understand this whole "soap opera" rubbish. Every single stargate series has "soap opera" characteristics. It's the fact there wasnt an established team, the introduction of a younger cast over all and a change in tone that a lot of established fans couldn't handle. SGU was from the first season my fav stargate BECAUSE of that. It was a brilliant continuation of all of what stargate was about, while moving it on in all areas. Not only did you have the gate - leading to different planets, but a ship going to different galaxies, with different gates leading to different planets. A crew, never ment to be where they are, never worked as a team, all with their own baggage before it all happened. But I'm sure fans like you just wanted all of that dropped for some romping fun adventures. Yyaaayyyy. Stargate universe and its demise is a product of what happens to all franchises. A certain set of custodial fans take it upon themselves to decide what stargate is, and was - over those that actually created the franchise. And killed it.

I mean if you think about it, even the Goa'uld were pretty alien looking in their true form. They just got around using alien puppets or CGI characters by having them take human hosts. And the other main alien race we encounter (that isnt just relocated humans) are the Asgard who have the traditional grey alien look. Jaffa are mutated humans so they look mostly human still. Really the only species guilty of the "looks weirdly like humans but arent" thing is the Nox.

I liked it too until I realised that due to the cost of the CGI we never got more than about 30 seconds worth of them on screen and were never able to have a single conversation with the crew, opting instead for massive info dumps from existing characters who were the designated exposition character for the week

Exactly!

The last half of season one was terrible.

I think the cast was a problem. And they also added those constant flashbacks like it`s Lost, not a Stargate. But yes I feel sad such a great potential gone forever

Yeah, they finally had a race of humans out there that could have given them a break from the main cast beating each other up

@@phantomreaver85 I kinda disagree. I liked Atlantis, at first, because it started out totally isolated from the Milky Way. No contact with Earth, no way of getting supplies or relief. They were on their own. They have to make alliances, friends, figure out things as they went in this very exploratory, colonizing way. I lost interest when Atlantis started to make regular contact with Earth and the (often-intrusive) IOA.

My thoughts exactly. So much potential for fascinating stories. When the idea of Stargate Origins as an anthology series was still around, this was pretty much my wish for Season 2 (with more budget etc of course).

Origins was such a disaster 🤦‍♀️ I think most of the fanbase thinks it is out of the canon. But yeah, it would have been nicer to see Ancients even on a mini series, if it were to be written / produced by people from the original crew.

There were actually plans to include time travel in a future season to the time when the Destiny was originally launched…such a shame we never got to see any of that…

Eh, I think the Ancients are interesting because we know so little about them. It'd be like seeing everything about... the Vorlons.

I would love to see a prequel series for the Ancients (alliance of the four races to the Wraith war) A prequel for the Goa'uld rise to power. A prequel focusing on the races from the great alliance.

I would guess 3 or 4 mirroring Stargate Atlantis and the number of Aurora class ships found throughout the series.

to cover entire solar systems at the same time, i would figure in at least 100 seed ships are out there.

@@Jmaul85 the only reason we see so few Aurora class ships is due to almost all of them being lost during the wraith wars which is why they returned to earth they had no chance of holding the line forever

But instead hey chose a soap opera and to sit fighting and moaning, the gate in some episodes might as well have not existed, hell the ship might not because there was zero scifi going on !

@@james194zt yup, no aliens or displaced human civs allowed (until right at the end) apart from about 30 seconds of super expensive CGI

@@james194zt If you don't like people acting like people, go watch Star Trek instead. No one's forcing you to watch stuff you don't like.

Agreed!

It is funny how people (including me) can be so interested in history of things which never actually happened:D

Keep watching and we'll keep making more! 😁 I'm working on the rest of May now. New Omnipedia videos every Wednesday!

Tell a friend! 😉 We'll keep making more.

@@GateWorldDotNet The whole family are fans, we rewatch Stargate like others rewatch Friends, if not more 😂 No doubt you'll find more subscribers!

so essentially the ship becomes transformers lol

Not sure about that!!! Some of the stuff I heard they were doing to LotR will have Tolkien spinning in his grave!

They did purchase Stargate! (Well... They purchased the whole MGM which means among others also Stargate)

You sure it didnt turn out to be a nightmare? haha

It's also possible that seed ship are able to replicate themselves. It would be safer than assuming your ship is able to repair infinitely and it allow covering expoentially more space

Would have made more sense than a timetravel clone of the ship showing right up when they needed spare parts, lol

my theory has always been that the seed ships and the destiny all originally had many robots onboard each ship, all meant for their individual tasks, but through out the many millennia these robots were either destroyed by the races that made it their ultimate goal to destroy or capture anything related to the seed ships or the destiny, effectively making it so the ships were in bad repair. we found one robot on destiny that was broken, we eventually fixed the bot and used it to fix things on the ship, but it only makes sense that these ships were originally sent out with automated bots meant for gathering resources meant to repair the ships as well for the seed ships to create more gates. my theory is that the destiny would have been in much better shape if these robots were still onboard the ship. yes the ship is old AF but, so long as something is properly maintained, it could essentially last forever. but if the bots were destroyed or damaged beyond repair, it would make sense that the ship would be in such bad shape.

We got two big bad enemies: The drones and the Blue Aliens. The Drones were probably done at the end of Season 2, but the Blue Aliens were going to continue to show up as adversaries for at least the next couple seasons.

@@mahatmarandy5977 The blue aliens got a vague explanation since they never communicated. Rather briefly... The drones was rather exciting part but they failed to develop it. The comic series after the show ended was like 50 times better. Jeez i wish they can reboot it.

@@ast0nv8 The comic book had no connection with anyone connected to the show, so I can't really take it seriously as to where the show would have gone. But, hey, if you didn't like the show, you didn't like the show. I'm not trying to change your mind. In any event, the Blues would have returned. They weren't done with 'em yet.

Thanks and welcome, Adam!

That actually reminded me of the Homeworld games for some reason. 😀

@@WhiteScarsEmo Heh heh heh.

But where does the naquadah come from? Whilst the primative Destiny era gates aren't made entirely of naquadah like the more contempory milkyway and pegasus gates, it is still a necessary element in their construction.

@@asvarien Bearing in mind that not a thing about Naquadah makes a lick of sense (IIRC, in one episode it's said to be like a kind of transuranic version of Quartz, but I may be misremembering that, and the official weight puts it on the periodic table between Technetium and Ruthenium, and given Carter's line in an early episode about "Filling in a lot of gaps in the Periodic Table" (There aren't any gaps, the writers just didn't understand how it works), I gotta work with what we're told, so my doubletalky guess is this: They zip through the star and suck up Technetium and/or Ruthenium. Then they simply fire electrons at Technetium until it hits the atomic mass they need, or they somehow skim electrons off of Ruthenium until it goes down to the atomic mass they need. Ta-dah! Yer done! Nuclear Transmutation is....well, I wouldn't say it's amazingly easy, but it's something we can do now with our current technological level, though the energy cost is prohibitively high. Given the Ancient's ability to build starships that can run for 6 million + years, it's probably well within their skill set. So I'd imagine the seed ships just skim up what they need, and if they can't find what they need, they transmute what they've got into what they need. Make sense? Bearing in mind I'm sure they didn't actually plan this out when making the show, so I'm just winging it here.

A simple matter ?? Really ??

But Atlantis did not finish. What happened to the galaxy when they left, did the Wraith go unchecked ?

@@tokra2222 As I said, the SGA-Legacy novels concluded the story of the Atlantis expedition.

@@FekLeyrTarg ah sorry misunderstood what you wrote. Are those novels available to read online perhaps?

@@tokra2222 No problem. I'm don't know whether or not you can read them online. However, they are available as E-Books and pretty cheap, around 4€.

Hardly

it had an interesting AI program that ran in the background when lifeforms were onboard, if you remember that episode when everyone on the destiny were having recurring dreams that involved finding an solution to how to fight the aliens that would ambush the destiny. it was kind of like a more sophisticated version of virtual reality, except that it would play these scenarios while you are sleeping, perhaps to save time while you rest as sleeping is a wasted period of potential time to find possible solutions. but they turned it off because it was disturbing their sleep, it's too bad they never came back and used this program again, it was quite intuitive and future thinking for problem solving. then the fact of the chair, which was first thought of as an repository of knowledge, however when they later used the device, they discovered that it had much more potential than just and uploader of knowledge, it was used to also download knowledge as well as to upload an entire Consciousness of that girl gin, and that other dude who was firstly taken out prematurely when they first started using it. i personally think young made a bad decision in forcing him out of the chair when he did, because my thoughts are that this chair was less advanced than the newer versions of this same tech, the man probably would have been fine if young didn't force him out of the device while it was in the middle of transferring data, which probably corrupted the file which is why that guy was so messed up after the fact. think of pulling out an usb from your computer while an transfer is not finished transferring, the files may not work after the fact or the files will be corrupted.

It is also contradicted with the assumption of DHDs provide activation energy. Somewhere in the wiki, it is stated that the ramps has the power source though I'm not sure whether it was ever highlighted on the canon.

@Mikołaj K i was making a joke about the lack of DHDs

@@benoi5 interesting idea! Although maybe do to the limited range the gate its self is the only power source.

@Mikołaj K it's science fiction... If it doesn't sit right with you make something up...

@@JD96893 Pretty much. In my mind, DHDs are either: batteries (like zpm), generators (that use naquadah as fuel), generators that pull energy from subspace, simple plot devices that were not thought through. If I'm not mistaken the SGU gates are MK3, the most advanced version. I imagine each can have couple of ZPMs integrated.

Wellll, Young is really fat and out of shape now, Rush is WAY too expensive to re-hire, ditto Camile, Eli is ripped, he's in totally great shape. You could probably get everyone else, though obviously they're gonna be a decade older.

The most the show ever suggested was that the Ancients lost interest in Destiny (and presumably its mission) after they ascended. We don't know why ... if maybe they found what they were looking for, or if after millions of years it just wasn't of interest any longer.

@@GateWorldDotNet understood thanks

@@GateWorldDotNet As Ancients ascended they seem to be made out as almost like they are part of the Arkasic record or a similar idea, they now sort of have the knowledge of the universe, so maybe they lost interest because basically they have all knowledge available to them, past, present and future so no need to look.

@@james194zt I also thought this way, thanks

@@phantomreaver85 that's interesting how you connected those things

SGU was not a good show.

Faranor so why are you here talking about it? There's got to be plenty of shows you like. Go say nice things about them on threads about those shows.

Enjoy your rewatch!

yeah, like: -Any news from them? - No, sir. lol

@@phantomreaver85 We got several books on it not sure if that's canon or not

Theyre the pod aliens, easy to forget there were aliens at all as they couldn't afford more than 30 secs of screen time

@@Cheesusful haha, that must be it. This video made it seem like they were a major thing 😅

@@twirre not really, I mean.. They were when it came to the seed ship, but that was in like 3 or 4 episodes overall and for most of the main casts interactions, all communication was with one of the cast reading something of a screen :(

same i dont remember them and i dont even remember the seed ship yet i watched all the episodes twice, time to rewatch it XDD

And blueprints, don't forget blueprints!

@@kasonnara Just like the tech manual for Star Trek. Put them right in there.

That's a good question. I'd speculate that several were needed given the number of gates along Destiny's route, and the amount of time it could take a seed ship to stop and get one set up, take sensor readings, etc. When we see the cluster of Stargates in close proximity in an episode like "Lost," it looks like one seed ship would have to spend a good deal of time zipping back and forth within a single region of space depositing Stargates. It's not as though there is only a single gate deposited in intervals down a narrow path; Destiny always has options, and gates are dispersed relatively broadly around the ship's path.

Dialog in the episode indicates that there were multiple seed ships, and this one had simply broken down. Hundreds, or perhaps thousands of others were still operating, though.

My theory was that seed ships were sent to multiple directions in order to allow Destiny to chose its path along the way. They were to prepare the infrastructure, but since the Destiny’s mission was only in a very broad and general direction, several paths may lead to the same goal.

We see the Stargate manufacturing facility in "Awakening." The seed ships had to be able to make them rather than being limited to a finite quantity, given the number they would have placed over the course of millions (or even just hundreds of thousands) of years.

Yes but everyone on the show is much older now, some might not even look exactly the same. There could be an easy explanation however they can say that the pods they were in don't slow down aging. It would also explain if they want to bring back the og stargate cast they are much older too now, Dean Anderson is pushing 70 and Tapper is approaching 60.

it's about time i come across someone who thinks in more detail, most folks take everything as is and was shown in the show without thinking of how things could have possibly taken place. my theory was that these ships all had multiple robots onboard, meant to keep the ships in good repair, but over the many millennia these bots got destroyed when they went out for more resources to repair the ship. the countdown for the gate wasn't only for the ppl to know how much time they had to get back to the destiny before it jumped into FTL, it was also set for the robots that went to scavenge planets for more resources to repair the destiny or even the seed ships. it's what makes the most sense given how long these ships have been running since they were first sent out into the universe. i also have a theory that there are more seed ships out there that were sent out with the new design gates with both the gray looking stargates as well as the Atlantis gate style still seeding outside their perspective galaxies, and probably preforming at an much faster rate because the tech is much more advanced than the destiny's tech at this point.

It would make alot of sense if the Seed ships would have a special gate delivery shuttle or are able go into the atmosphere itself.... The Discovery Gates seem to be the 1st Version SG1 Gates should be the 2nd Generation Atlantis Gates the third and final Generation... as far wie know The first Version is also much more complicated They need alot of math calculations to operate and their range is limited McKay and Carter could try to write another "gate link" protocol, like they did for midway Station

Where was this stated, Ormi? I'd love to track down the dialogue if it's there.

@@Blackfatrat Ahh, thanks! That's some good reading between the lines. I was thinking that the Novans may have developed ships before they had a Stargate (possibly finding and retrieving a gate from another world), but there is evidence in "Epilogue" that they had a gate on the planet very early on in the settlement's history.

Sadly it was turned into an overpriced and to my knowledge, short lived comicbook. I would have eagerly collected it,but...it was out of my price range for my budget.

There's actually an automated Stargate factory inside the seed ships, which the team sees in a short scene in "Awakening." As for the coordinate / address system for each gate, I suppose when the seed ship deposits a new gate it must assign an address. We know that it relays data back to Destiny, which would include addresses for gates on its path up ahead.

Good question. If they can deposit gates (with ramps, pedestals, etc.) on the surface of planets I think it's reasonable to conclude that they can scan, identify, and scoop up resources from a planet as needed. I think this is *ever so slightly* supported by the fact that a Stargate was blown apart by a drone ship in "Common Descent." It suggests these gates are not made of solid naquadah, like the Milky Way and Pegasus gates, but by whatever the seed ships find that they can make work.

Hey, theres some comment left in your hashtags.

@@therobot1080 sorry, I've no idea what your referring to! Too many #Hashtags for you?... Hashtags allow more people to see this video, which may help with convincing #AmazonPrime to produce more #Stargate, just as they have with the #DarkMatter mini series ;) that Brad has already given much thought over.

I could not agree with the fact that Ori predates the stargate R&D and construction i mean if the ascension is already on the table and the Ori/Alterans battle was on going...why bother creating something which takes millions of years to reap the benefits... You get my point?... I believe that particular scene hinting at Merlin having notes of Stargate design will be either a massive plot hole or it could be a incremental note for future development of Stargate design for the Milky way and Pegasus galaxy design, given they already designed the limited capable destiny gates and its upgrade plan or something like that. So chronologically it should be like this... Alterans ~ their advancements ~ their space exploration ~ they Invent rudimentary Stargates(ones in the destiny/seed ship with limited capabilities) (this is the one which was still functioning along with destiny) ~ they found some CMB data for an artificial construct, sends parallel resources of seed ships and mission of destiny ship commence ~ ascension era ~ ori development ~ The battle with Ori ~ Alterans leave for the milky way as they lose to ori ~ develop the new star gate and establish a powerful presence in the milky way ~ meet Asgard and other Allies, forms a 4 Race alliance ~ some Alterans ascend and give up on corporeal life ~ plague attacks and then they leave Milky Way for Pegasus with Atlantis ~ further develop star gate design (ones on Pegasus galaxy) ~ mistakenly create wraith Offshoot, battles with wraith for many thousand years ~ creates replicators to fight wraith, fails and backfires on them ~ in total frustration, almost 95% of the Alterans ascend and gave up after losing to wraith and Replicators. I believe i made justice to the chronology of the Alterans. I theorize Alterans emerged 2 to 2.5 billion years before our current human era since Earth is 4.5 billion years old and became habitable after some 2 billion years. Since they are 2 billion years earlier and very intelligent and driven. They did all these for around 1.5 billion years as a species is remarkable for any species. They can be classified as type 3.2 Civilization since they control the galaxy where they live and reach out multiple galaxies as exploration. In comparison Asgard are somewhere between 2 to 2.5 they couldn't move past that since the Alterans made it difficult for them to survive...The replicators, wraith and their own genetic mistake. Nox might be close to a Type 2 but they are very advanced yet isolation loving species. The furlings are a mystery and probably type 2. There are several type 1.5 to type 2 civilization in the whole SG franchise we have seen on screen either still present or extinct. Goauld is clearly a type 2.5, Wraith is Type 2.3, Tollan Type 2, and several others.

@@sriramg5029 Brother with that attention to detail you should be a Sci Fi writer or director well done.

@@HAWKEYE-79 ♥️😅

Supposedly the Ancients discovered a complex pattern embedded in the cosmic microwave background radiation, suggesting that some intelligence was at work at the very beginning of the universe. Our own science based on the CMB suggests that the universe doesn't have a centre.

"proof of God" though imo it was likely to be the destiny crew time travelling in a final episode that they never had the chance to make

i believe the destiny was seeking out evidence of the higher plane of existence that created these solar systems within the vast universe, if you remember an episode of SGU where the destiny crew discover an galaxy that shouldn't exist because according to their sensors on the ship, this galaxy was brand new and had no explanation in how it came to be into existence. this system had almost everything they would need as if this system was created just for them to get off of destiny. and some of the crew stayed on the planet, while the destiny stayed on it's path as they would eventually reunite with it a month later, but some folks didn't want to go back to the destiny and wanted to stay, so they did a lottery to who could stay and who could not. TJ the medic solder, she wanted to stay on the planet, but because she was an essential military officer, young didn't allow her to stay because she was too valuable to him, but she was also with child at the time. later in the show it was reveled to her through an dream after she lost her baby through some complications, in this vision or dream she meets up with the ppl that were left behind on the planet and they tell her that her child was saved by this unworldly lifeform that provided almost everything for them, and that her child would be just fine, they told her of an symbol in space of how she would know that this was not just a dream, and when this vision dream ended she saw this symbol in the nebula of space, and it was at this point where we knew what she saw was real. i personally think this lifeform was an ascended being that was of an much higher plane of existence than your normal ascended being, because this being had the ability to create entire solar systems and it's possible that its been doing this since the beginning of time, maybe there are more like this entity out there doing the same things. the ascended beings we know had great power and could do many things such as cast lightning or cause earthquakes and floods, but nothing like creating entire solar systems like this entity was doing. i don't think the Alteran knew what this thing was at first, which is why they needed to investigate it, but they eventually came across info on ascension from other sources, it's even possible they had a subspace data sharing capability that sent information back to them on one of earth's outposts while these seed ships and the destiny were on their mission. the stones have this capability and that tech they already had back when they first left their own galaxy for the milky way. it would seem the stones have no limit to their range, so it would make sense that they would have something relaying information back to the milky way essentially creating a way to obtain the info they needed without the need to board the destiny physically in the first place.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w solar system, not galaxy.

@@Cheesusful there, it should be fixed now. lol i can't believe i got that wrong.

The last I read was that Syfy actually *wanted* a third season, but owing to the complete financial meltdown MGM was going through at the time, they literally could not find anyone to negotiate with. Flannigan has told a similar story regarding his attempts to find alternate financing to keep SGA going.

@@mahatmarandy5977 yeah it was MGM and nobody wanted to play ball.

Where'd you get that number from? Not being sarcastic, I just honestly have never heard that before

@@mahatmarandy5977 in Common Descendants season 2 episode 17, about 10min into it they talked about how they must have got thrown and back in time 2000 years, then 12min into the episode the Descendants talk about how their ancestors used the gates to find resources. This would indicate the gates were in that universe 2000 years ago which means the seeding ships must have been there by then.

@@markberry6117 Ah. Thank you for explaining. That makes sense. The seed ships were obviously sent out way in advance of Destiny. I think it's also possible that they're way *faster* than destiny, since they're smaller, have more to do, and don't really have the frills that a manned ship would need. But I think a lot of this stems from us not really knowing what the Destiny's mission was. I mean, we know the purpose of it, but we don't know how they intended to go about accomplishing it. To put that a different way, the purpose of the Apollo Program was to go to the moon, however, there were a half-dozen ways we could have gone about that, and the one we chose was ultimately based on what we hoped to accomplish once we got there (Which wasn't too much, honestly.) If we'd intended to continue to visit for more than 10 missions, we would have gone about it a different way. If we'd intended to set up a base, then that mission would have been different than the one we got, *and* the continued-visits thing. All those involve "Man on the moon," but they go about it different ways. So basically they chose to go about the Destiny mission in a specific way because there was something they hoped to get from it that they couldn't if they went about it a different way. Make sense? So we know the goal, but we don't really know what the Ancients hoped to accomplish by reaching it. If that makes sense?

I think you're right, though there are some clues from the canon that suggest what could be a reasonable explanation. (1) The Asgard civilization was on the order of hundreds of thousands of years old, while the Ancients were probably already millions of years old when Destiny launched. It's entirely reasonable that they had matter-energy transporter technology, which would answer the question of how the seed ships deposited Stargates. The crew just hasn't found it yet, after two years on the ship ... or for some unknown reason the Ancients put it on the seed ships but not on Destiny at all. (2) The gates along Destiny's path are not only lower tech but also not nearly as strong (one is destroyed by drone weapons fire). They likely are not made of naquadah, as the Ancients knew that seed ships would not necessarily be able to find that specific mineral throughout its entire journey. So it stands to reason there are other materials that they can use to create working gates, even if those gates end up less sturdy and less capable. (3) The Asgard computer's "3D printing" technology almost certain has limitations in what it can create. The Stargate technology is sufficiently large and complex that it makes sense that, while the Asgard can construct a gate with the proper materials, they can't just summon one into existence with the computer. The gate would still require the acquisition of a suitable amount of naquadah or other suitable material.

The ships go through literal stars during their voyage. They can take every material they need here as well as the energy to convert them into any alliage they want. The idea of star replenishing is honestly brillant and 100% what you want to do if you want to send ships to explore the universe for eternity. Not only stars give you everything you need in terms of materials and energy, it also give you HUGE gravity assists boost, making you go faster and faster after each stars. You "just" need a ship that can withstand a star radiation.

The timeline is the issue here. Despite Rush's offhand remark in the first episode about when the ship was launched, Destiny is in fact much older than Atlantis -- which was built in the Milky Way millions of years ago. When they first activate the map of Destiny's path so far, the crew notes that it in fact passed through Pegasus early on in its journey.

It was a tonal shift from the other shows. The show itself was pretty good, it was fine, honestly, it just dropped most of the hokey-jokey nature of the previous shows, which was appropriate as their situation was way more dire than the previous shows. But it took them a long time to figure out the right balance for that, and by the time they did, nobody was still watching.

@@mahatmarandy5977 dire is the soft word for it. It was Atlantis, but with a crew who not only didnt want to be there, but were also unequipped to be there. I think something we can all agree on. SGU was league better than ..... Stargate infinity.

@@trebot9292266 The best thing I can say about Stargate Infinity is that it had a really cool title. Apart from that, ugggghhh. So, yes, SGU: Much better!

@@mahatmarandy5977 I find it kind of funny that Destiny did kinda copy the concept if infinity

@@trebot9292266 Hm. In the "We're lost and need to find our way back to the SGC" aspect? You know, oddly, I never considered that before.

Rush speculated that they lost interest after they ascended. But no, not for certain.

I always thought it was stupid they could not figure out a way to either use Seed ship to manufacture needed spare parts or to tow the damaged Destiny that time jumped away from the sun to cannibalize the spare parts needed to get Destiny´s shields and weapon systems operational fully. During the show they did not really meet anything that would pose a threat to the ship if it was not suffering from deteriorated performance.

@@Matej_Sojka I agree but the simple answer is that it wasn't in the script but in a real world scenario you would do just that in times of an emergency.

Diffrent tech levels. But with whats onboard he should have no worries fixing it

Malozi has said that if the show got a third season, Eli would have survived by living in the shuttle for three years, and eating canned food, and he'd likely be a bit nuts after all that solitude

Doesn't count. Fever dream.

This timetable for Destiny's launch is actually a long-standing issue for canon. Brad Wright has confirmed for us that Destiny is older than Atlantis (as indeed it looks), which makes it many millions of years old. That means Rush's dialogue in the pilot -- "launched hundreds of thousands of years ago" -- was not meant to be a precise estimate but just him spitballing.

@@GateWorldDotNet No, it is not. In the first episode or the second it was. There was the crew on a Computer of Destiny showing the route of the Destiny. This shows that the Destiny only began its journey from Earth 100,000 years ago. The ancient civilization itself, is of course older which is correct!

Check out 2x03 "Awakening," as well as the mid-season two-parter.

We know that by the end of their tenure in Atlantis 10,000 years ago (but probably much, much earlier given their proficiency with Stargate technology) the Ancients had some version of transporter tech. The city is equipped with transport chambers, which seem to operate in a similar manner to transport rings (which the Ancients too likely engineered).

If you've watched the show carefully, this is entirely speculative. Nothing in SGU suggests the Ancients' goal was to lay down Stargates so that humans could later colonize those worlds.

@@GateWorldDotNet the ancients wanted to evolve . If only a handful of ancients evolved from the billions of ancients that ever lived than it will take an even bigger number of ancients to evolve beyond the ascendant form and even beyond that and so on and on . That's why they created the wormhole drive for us to colonize the universe