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Ancient Greek historian Roel Konijnendijk takes a deep dive into the historical accuracy of one of the most iconic and ridiculous depictions of the Spartans - '300' (2006).
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00:00 Introduction
00:33 Spartan Society and Customs
02:34 Xerxes’ Messenger
06:56 The Ephors, the Oracle and the Carneia
10:30 The 300
15:39 The Persian Fleet
16:14 Thermopylae, the ‘Hot Gates’
17:17 Spartan Battle Technique
19:12 The Persian Army
24:42 Xerxes
28:28 Ephialtes
32:01 Dilios - Why Did the Spartans Stay?
34:18 The Final Stand
38:44 Aftermath of Thermopylae and Delios
40:53 Movie Quotes: Fact or Fiction?

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@daroth7127 19 дней назад

This guy needs his own youtube channel at this point

@andrewm1857 19 дней назад

Yes please. I rewatch his videos all the time. Fascinating and so many ditches

@kevinhurley6919 19 дней назад

He should call it "diggin' ditches"

@kevinhurley6919 19 дней назад

He should call it "diggin' ditches"!

@MN-yb8un 19 дней назад

i like so too, still not sure if there is a too much about a good thing. if he has the material, sure bring them on, or some recordings of lectures.

@hissingsidll750 19 дней назад

Hes picking on a graphic novel for Christ's sake...not the encyclopedia brittanica....this guy should chill out and realise that

@Milos_Markovic 19 дней назад

Q: How do i win ancient battles? A: Dig ditches Q: How many? A: Yes.

@KvltKrist 19 дней назад

And when you thought you had dug enough ditches, dig a lot more.

@TallDude73 19 дней назад

"Where's your ditch?" 😄

@Marauder99991 19 дней назад

Honestly, I dont really understand how Europe isn't just one big ditch.

@ashscott6068 19 дней назад

"They're just...going around, sir" "But.....the ditches" "Just going around, sir"

@J.Severin 19 дней назад

@@Marauder99991 we tryed. got half way from the North sea to the alps. maybe next time.

@Cailus3542 19 дней назад

"I have no idea what Frank Miller was snorting when he came up with this." Gave me a good giggle.

@MarcFun 17 дней назад

Just another super hero movie disguised into a story happened in history. which is false

@Cailus3542 16 дней назад

@@MarcFun Tell me: what part of 300 suggests that it's trying to be an accurate historical film? Was it the Xerxes being seven foot tall? Was it the literal giant with huge blades for hands? Was it the goat man?

@erih2934 11 дней назад

@@Cailus3542 I am always surprised people think there was any attempt to make this a historical account - the story in the comic/movie is told as a pre-battle propaganda piece by one spartan to hype up his comrades for the next battle XD Analyzing 300 without keeping that in mind is a bit of a miss. Still I love listening to Roel Konijnendijk simply to get more historical details :)

@hansdampf6916 10 дней назад

@@Cailus3542 The historic setting. The names of countries and people. The weapons, the clothes... Lots of things suggested that this is based on a historic event. Not knowing much about that event, the average viewer has no idea what apart from the fantastical aspect would be historically accurate or what wouldn't.

@Snuffsaid2007 7 дней назад

@@erih2934 Yeah I was kind of surprised he didn't pick up on that, even if you somehow miss the ending to connect the dots, the narrator (Dilios) regularly gives away how allegorical and embellished his storytelling is, like when he refers to the Persian's using incendiary weapons (fire pots) as "magic".

@petroserk9370 19 дней назад

"I don't think Persians would make very good mortar" 😂😂

@ATomRileyA 13 дней назад

acktshually Apparently adding blood makes better cement :)

@james088 19 дней назад

48 minutes with dr. Konijnendijk? Heck yes, please.

@princessazulaofthefirenati5870 19 дней назад

I think you mean the *DITCH* *DIGGER*

@seedo201 19 дней назад

He is a legend

@nihilisticpuppy3799 19 дней назад

He is a leg

@ctakitimu 19 дней назад

Google offered to translate your message to English! 🤣

@james088 19 дней назад

@@ctakitimu Wonderful :DD

@jammysmears4077 19 дней назад

You've shown half the film here. The editor is a madman.

@leonelramireza.4826 19 дней назад

Madness???….. THIS IS SPARTA!!!

@fernandoaugustoribeiro3288 19 дней назад

Considering that if we remove slow-mo scenes the movie gets half of its feature length, the official Ditch guy has reacted to the whole movie.

@schiz0phren1c 18 дней назад

@jammysmears4077 Yeah! (Re)Spoiler alert!...about an 18 year old movie about a thousand year old conflict that we know the end of...but still!

18 дней назад

@@fernandoaugustoribeiro3288somebody actually did this, the movie only got 6 or 8 minutes shorter

@The_ZeroLine 18 дней назад

The best kind of madman. Giving us as much as possible of what we wanted.

@Owlinabowl 18 дней назад

“I have no idea what Frank Miller was snorting, when he came up with this….” Kinda explains the whole movie tbh lol

@theworldswickedestclown 6 дней назад

It's an action movie based of a graphic novel never once did Frank Miller say the graphic novel was historical accurate

@wk-ys4gt 15 дней назад

It's no surprize Leonidas was betrayed. Ephialtes apparently couldn't have stood his disregard to trenches.

@Malky24 19 дней назад

Another famous pithy Spartan response was when Philip of Macedon sent a message to the Spartan army in 345BCE saying: "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city." The Spartans sent back a one-word reply: "If" Admittedly that story is a lot cooler if you leave out the second part of it where Philip of Macedon did *exactly* what he said he was going to do and gave the Spartans such a brutal pummelling that they never really recovered from it.

@digitaljanus 19 дней назад

A few years later, when Alexander and the bulk of the Macedonian army are away conquering Persia, the Spartans try to rise up again. And the Macedonian general left behind to mind the store crushed them again in a matter of months.

@marcusclaudius266 19 дней назад

@@digitaljanus And Alexander referred to it as a "clash of mice," because he was off fighting a real war and couldn't be bothered to care what the children back in Greece were doing.

@jackj9816 19 дней назад

And people try to argue because Sparta wasn’t destroyed or fully conquered it showed they were badass. When really Sparta wasn’t really a big prize and Phillip didn’t see it worth the fight so instead destroyed most there lands and took there territory

@TheZombifiedGuy 19 дней назад

I kind of like this new angle on the "Come and get them" and "If" replies where instead of badass defiance it's just a pithier version of fucking around before finding out lol

@Warmaker01 19 дней назад

@@TheZombifiedGuy It's even worse than that. Before Philip came down and ravaged the Spartan countryside, Sparta was pummeled by Thebes who was capably led by two generals. But the Theban - Spartan War cost both sides so much. Once that was over, that was when Philip invaded.

@toniviskari417 19 дней назад

I'm only in the beginning of the video and already cackling over the "Until like later that day" line. Dude has a really awesome dry wit.

@nickzardiashvili624 15 дней назад

You can imagine it as the narrator saying "A spartan was taken from his home" and then a SpongeBob title card with that French accent voice: "later that day" as the boy comes back home for dinner.

@bendykirk 19 дней назад

Man I could listen to Roel talk about this kind of stuff for years straight....

@Squiesh 17 дней назад

It's amazing that Robert Pattinson is so well versed in history.

@matthewbrown5228 7 дней назад

I see where the confusion is. That's not Robert Pattinson. That's Edward Cullen. They selected Robert Pattinson to play Edward Cullen because of the likeness. Edward Cullen is very well versed in history because of the thousands of high school classes he has attended.

@lizardog 5 дней назад

@@matthewbrown5228 Come on. That's Cedward.

@hdmairbf 19 дней назад

We need Dr. Ditch videos at least weekly.

@kdks7843 19 дней назад

Legend states that "300" refers to the number of ditches dug by the Spartans.

@xScooterAZx 19 дней назад

Never heard that.

@TheGrumbliestPuppy 19 дней назад

@@xScooterAZx its a joke

@A0A4ful 19 дней назад

😂The Persians weren't prepared to do a steeplechase!

@kdks7843 19 дней назад

@@A0A4ful 🤣

@xScooterAZx 18 дней назад

@@TheGrumbliestPuppy Ahh

@condorello3746 19 дней назад

We're just getting blessed at this point by his presence on youtube

@GuillermoBarron100 19 дней назад

This could've lasted 3 hours and I would've watch it till the end

@paulc3752 19 дней назад

"I had no idea what Frank Miller was snorting when he did this...." Ohhhh, you sweet summer child.

@HiveFleetUlfang1 19 дней назад

He's a University professor. I'm sure he can imagine what Miller was on...

@rsbandbj1 19 дней назад

i laughed out loud when he said that.

@pyrob2142 19 дней назад

I was chuckling before, but this line absolutely killed me.

@Batchall_Accepted 19 дней назад

@@HiveFleetUlfang1 I think they were more implying that Roel probably didn't realize how accurate his joke about "what he was snorting" actually was lol Frank Miller notoriously did a shitload of cocaine when he wrote this lmao

@GoldnDusty 18 дней назад

@@Batchall_Accepted And university professors (and a lot of academics of various stripes) have been known to take said extra-curriculars, so I believe the commenter was making a pithy remark about Roel's likely knowledge of this.

@kinghenryxl1747 19 дней назад

Roel was also a part-time standup comedian in college, which explains a lot LOL

@stevenlannister184 19 дней назад

Really? God that makes so much sense

@romant7204 19 дней назад

Please tell me this is real

@xabierperez 19 дней назад

Tell us more!

@agentmv 18 дней назад

Oh God tell us more about this!

@DrRoelKonijnendijk 18 дней назад

Sadly this is not true, I just participated in Bright Club during the final year of my PhD ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0S7oi1Xn59c.html

@BadassRaiden 19 дней назад

Oh yeah, then there's the whole "free men stood against a tyrant" line. Like, the ratio of the population of Sparta of citizens and slaves was overwhelmingly slaves. There were way more slaves than citizens and, whether it was taken from the graphic novel or Snyder wrote the line himself, the idea that the Spartan society is a society of "free men" fighting against "a tyrant" is so shamefully laughable it's insane.

@TheZombifiedGuy 19 дней назад

Yeah... kind of echoes the whole "slaveowners who wanted to be free" vibe of the declaration of independence

@Cailus3542 19 дней назад

Come to think of it, this film could easily be about the Athenians instead, like the sequel. Athens was hardly "free" as we would describe it in 2024, but they were a heck of a lot closer than Sparta.

@zedeyejoe 18 дней назад

And every year, Sparta declared war on its slaves. To give a legal (and religious) reason for keeping its slaves in slavery.

@anonymes2884 18 дней назад

Yeah but I suppose to him the only actual Spartans _were_ citizens so it's _technically_ true in his eyes (kinda fun to see the "no true Scotsman" fallacy being committed over a thousand years before Scotland even existed :).

@jonnybgoode7742 18 дней назад

@@TheZombifiedGuy reading your comments makes it clear how absolutely clueless you are.

@otterpoet 16 часов назад

Professor Konijnendijk never ceases to make history intriguing and deliver his fact-checks with an amazing wit and politeness. "I really hope I don't need to specify that war rhinos aren't a real thing..." His almost apologetic delivery had me howling!

@anonnymousperson 19 дней назад

"War Rhinos are not a thing" - Roel Konijnendijk, 2024

@MichalKaczorowski 19 дней назад

In Wakanda, maybe ;)

@cleverusername9369 19 дней назад

My favorite line, "I don't think Persians would make very good mortar"

@valeforyoru 19 дней назад

Rhinos have poor eyesight and low intelligence. There is a video of a Rhino trying to defend her calf from Hyenas.... she charged her own calf by mistake and sent it to oblivion. I guess they can't be trained for battles, but still cool to see because they are magnificent.

@thecraftyhistorian 18 дней назад

To sum up “I don’t know what Frank Miller was snorting” Neither do we 🤣

@LuDux 18 дней назад

@@valeforyoru well duh, it they had high intelligence they wouldn't go to war

@AdFin26 19 дней назад

I see a video with this guy, I get my ‘build more ditches’ T-shirt ready and click play.

@oskar6661 19 дней назад

Dude, I built a ditch...from which I watched this video.

@chengkuoklee5734 19 дней назад

We should have t shirts: Dig Ditch Throw Stones.

@philipsquire9056 19 дней назад

There are t-shirts? (Googling intensifies)

@xxFortunadoxx 19 дней назад

@@chengkuoklee5734 Boil water; costs you nothing.

@lenanana8 19 дней назад

@@chengkuoklee5734Or tshirts with an embroidered shovel on the front upper side, and on the back in big letters "WHERE IS YOUR DITCH?"! Is someone able to make these? Or maybe we can ask the University of Oxford where Dr. Roel works to make it official department merch? Trust me, their admission numbers would skyrocket if they did this!

@MisterKnightly 18 дней назад

One hundred points for the proper pronunciation of "Darius."

@joeyeisenzimmer5374 12 часов назад

"Taken from their homes and plunged into a world of violence!" Yeah, until later that day. HA! That's given me a right good chuckle.

@Liam_Mellon 19 дней назад

I love Roel, but I always feel bad that he's having to critique mostly movies that are obviously ahistorical. He deserves a historically accurate movie to break down

@GenJuhru 17 дней назад

A documentary, the Cleopatra "My grandmother told me..."

@luvahadowsdolls 10 дней назад

Unfortunately those types of films are few and far between. On the first Insider video, however, I think he comments that Alexander got close to being correct as they had an Oxford professor advising on it.

@timothytinsumli8098 9 дней назад

CinemaSins NEEDS to hire Roel.

@smithryansmith 9 дней назад

@@timothytinsumli8098 cinemaSins needs to stop existing.

@ggilluminati4202 3 дня назад

@@luvahadowsdolls hell yeah a full Alexander movie breakdown by Roel? That would be a dream

@Vidit-qx9gg 19 дней назад

Spartans lose not because they were outnumbered but because they didn't dig ditches 😢

@Pan_Blazej 19 дней назад

But, you gotta admit, they built at least one wall.

@nachtschatten8710 19 дней назад

@@Pan_BlazejYeah, but as Dr.Roel stated... "Persians dont make up good mortar." so, they had better dug a ditch

@robertwilliamson922 19 дней назад

They were not loose. Their formations were tight. But they did lose the battle.

@VDA19 19 дней назад

They did build a wall, though, and a wall is just a ditch that goes up instead of down.

@badfoody 19 дней назад

Lose

@eunbitpark5251 19 дней назад

Poor Roel! He's exhausted correcting everything 😂😂

@warriorkid 18 дней назад

I remember studying ancient history at uni and we covered the ancient world in film. I did NOT realise how many oriental tropes this film had as a young boy Shout out to Orientalism by Ed Said

@DharianGames 19 дней назад

A near hour long video of this man talking. 1000% down for it. Loved it.

@timothyhouse1622 19 дней назад

"I got 99 problems but a DITCH aint one."

@MrRJPE 19 дней назад

Missed an opportunity to use 300 instead of 99.

@hermannsteiner7244 19 дней назад

underrated comment 🙌👌

@leeborocz-johnson1649 19 дней назад

The timing of this film coming out at the height of the Iraq War, its depiction of heroic, strong, independent, manly Western Greeks valiantly sacrificing themselves in heroic battle against effete orientalized subjects of a tyrant who relies upon superstition and terrorist brute force---the Government couldn't have cooked up better propaganda. I don't even think Frank Miller was TRYING to do that, but fundamentally that's what this is.

@nekrataali 17 дней назад

I forgot how fascist this movie is...Homophobia? Strong, incorruptible men against Asiatic hordes? Might makes right? Survival of the fittest? People who are disabled/disfigured are inherently evil? JFC the only thing missing was some happy merchant rubbing his hands together while convincing brown people to shout "God is great!" and blow up a school bus lmao 🤣

@elaceyb 17 дней назад

I’ve been looking for this comment lol. It couldn’t be any more obvious

@GenJuhru 17 дней назад

During the occupation, which makes the coalition forces the defending faction in the attempted retake of Baghdad by "insurgents" in 06, the year 300 was released.

@Colesign 16 дней назад

The 300 comic book and movie is definitively a response to the War of Terror. I've always thought, mind you, that you could easily make a movie where the Persian Empire (the Achaemenid Dynasty, to be precise) is the stand-in for the United States and the Greek city-states are the stand-ins for countries such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, etc.

@LoganBluth 11 дней назад

@@Colesign Didn't the comic book come out 3 years *_before_* the War on Terror? The comic book at least was just Frank Miller being his usual homophobic, racist self. Now *"HOLY TERROR"* from 2011...? Yeah, that 100% *_is_* Frank Miller's response to the War on Terror, and Frank was extremely pro-War on Terror at the time. "Holy Terror" was originally meant to be Batman vs. Al Qaeda, but Miller wanted the hero to be far more kill-crazy than Batman, so he invented a new character called The Fixer to inflict torture and mass-murder on all the brown people Frank thought were coming to get him.

@euansmith3699 18 дней назад

The idea of Xerxes arriving and departing e-v-e-r s-o s-l-o-w-l-y on his dais is hilarious. It reminds me of the guy getting run over by the road-roller in Austin Powers.

@nachtschatten8710 19 дней назад

Dear Dr. Roel, can you PLEASE look at the fact that this video is online since 3hrs and already got 15.000views. And most if not all of us are here for our favorite, kind and knowledgeable Ditch-guy. ❤❤❤ Please either do more of those videos or please upload more of your lectures, which by now, I am certainly not the only one who knows them by heart. Pretty please? I promise to build an extra ditch in front of my appartment's ditch.

@NixHarpinger 18 дней назад

Favorite, kinda and knowledgeable? You forgot to add funny and lighthearted. :) Also, I'm going on a limb here, but I guess your existing apartment ditch wasn't there before you started watching Dr. Konijnendijk? 😄

@nachtschatten8710 18 дней назад

@@NixHarpinger You are absolutely right,- I indeed forgot funny, lighthearted and witty, too. And also, yes, my existing appartment ditch was dutifully dug after Dr.Roel enlightened me in two famous movie reviews about the necessity of having a ditch,- even though, he admittedly mentioned that he wasnt entirely sure whether a ditch and a second ditch would actually work that well when facing the massive horde of undead ice zombies of the Night King. But,- as he recommended I made sure to place my trebuchets not outside my ditch perimeter to make up for the zombie issue. Do you think, he will read our comments and realize that our common dedication to ditches in general and ditching everything as soon as we see his videos, will entice him to take part in more videos or even upload his lectures, so we can follow along? Maybe we could petition for a Patreon? Might be an idea, dont you think?

@NixHarpinger 18 дней назад

@@nachtschatten8710 We'll have to go with Patreon as the chance of him reading this are near zero. Maybe let's also make another petition to have mandatory education for Hollywood producers that artillery does indeed go behind the line and skirmishers actually go *in front* of the battle-line. You don't want to accidentally hit your fellow soldiers in the back and lobbed arrows are very inaccurate and actually lose a lot of kinetic energy traveling up, fighting gravity. But Hollywood just doesn't get tired of arrows flying in long arches (while also on fire). In all seriousness tho, I don't see him being a full RU-vidr, it would seem he likes his job more than some YT likes, but it would be cool to have some more dedicated content from our favorite Dutch Ditch Guy. Like you said, they can be lectures and other historical dives, not just movie reactions.

@k0mp0cik 19 дней назад

Me: Hey I think I'm gonna attend Lincoln College Oxford Society: Cool, to study at a prestigious school? Me: No, to listen to Roel Konijnendijk PhD about digging ditches

@nikolaymangarov3953 11 дней назад

"Xerxes sends a letter to Leonidas saying surrender your weapons. And Leonidas says, you know, come and get them. And then, of course, the Persians came and took their weapons." I love him!

@benrobson7876 19 дней назад

Absolutely loved this, Roel is fantastic as always.

@Avio033 19 дней назад

Never realised Michael Fasbender was in this movie lol.

@nekrataali 17 дней назад

Also McNutty...did not recognize him he was so tan here lmao

@PeterTeal77 16 дней назад

Yeah it's like "Blackhawk Down" where every time I watch it I notice another actor and think "he was in this? How didn't I realize that?"

@tchaika222 15 дней назад

The casting for that movie was _wild_ in retrospect

@Avio033 15 дней назад

@@PeterTeal77 Yeah or Band of Brothers. Every time I watch that series I see another actor who made a breakthrough later.

@ericbrown1101 13 дней назад

I also forgot that Cersei was Gorgo lol

@leemiller29 19 дней назад

Every time the movie actually gets something semi-historically accurate I'm pleasantly surprised lol

@TheYogesh7777 18 дней назад

I am surprised how many things were actually correct. I thought it was total fictional.

@EHMSL1226 18 дней назад

@@TheYogesh7777 It actually deserves a lot of credit for at least getting the main story across. Honestly a lot of the silly stuff in it at least is based on some sort of history. Obviously its a fantasy blockbuster movie with ridiculousness in it, but it also is clearly not trying to be 100% historically accurate with monsters and such etc.. Its a really interesting battle and point in history which I would not have looked up and read about if not for this movie!

@ericbrown1101 18 дней назад

The ancient historical accounts of this battle are legendary for their iconic quotes, some of which I believe appear in the movie, perhaps most famously when Xerxes demanded Leonidas and his men lay down their weapons, to which Leonidas replied, "Molon labe"..."come and take them". At a similar encounter, a Persian emissary threatened "our arrows will block out the sun", to which a lieutenant of Leonidas replied, "so much the better, then we will have our battle in the shade." My personal favorite, however, is when Leonidas was marching off to battle, Gorgo asked him what she should do if he doesn't return. Leonidas said, "Marry a good man and have good children." And she did, by all accounts, becoming a very prominent figure in Spartan society. These quotes are all fanciful inventions of these ancient chroniclers, but are a big part of why these events have so captivated our imagination. These ancient "historians" were master storytellers.

@That-guy-there1 17 дней назад

@@TheYogesh7777 thats because it is, its based on a graphic novel that is told by a spartan, it was never meant to be accurate. At the end of the movie when he is giving that speech he is telling them all the story in a glorified way to get them pumped

@NonsenseFabricator 17 дней назад

When I heard the double-flute was accurate I was stoked.

@white-dragon4424 19 дней назад

An interesting review. You're enthusiastic but sober, unlike a lot of reviewers.

@nadze13 19 дней назад

Give us more of Roel deepdives!

@Admiral.Ackbar 19 дней назад

Dr. Konijnedijk is always an instant click on the Video for me. Thanks for having him again. Back to digging more ditches !

@nachtschatten8710 19 дней назад

Hehe, same here. As soon as I saw that it was him in the thumbnail, I dropped whatever else I originally wanted to watch. Dr.Roel is historical click bait!

@michaelkean5969 19 дней назад

As much as i love 300 it’s essentially Greek Braveheart. Honestly the story of the “300” really needs its own “outlaw king” where it’s essentially the same story/historical period but it’s more grounded in the real history. The only other piece of media to even remotely tackle the story of the 300 Spartans and the battle of Thermopylae was Assasins creed Oddessy and it is just as Accurate as 300 is.

@dormikdelron 19 дней назад

@@MichalKaczorowski On what Greek propaganda? Frank Miller invented a lot of these depictions from thin air. Most of it is not based on any actual greek propaganda that we know of.

@lopez.jacinto.6726 19 дней назад

@@dormikdelronExactly. Herodotus doesn't present the Persians in this way, he shows through his work a fascination and respect for Persian history so "is just Greek propaganda" isn't an accurate argument.

@dionysusNME 19 дней назад

Exactly. I am literally reading Tom Holland's excellent translation of The Histories and one thing that stands out, actually, is Herodotus' admiration for the Persians

@michaelkean5969 19 дней назад

@@MichalKaczorowskiand yet it’s the only film out there that actually depicts the events of the Persian Greek war literally no one else has since,

@johngeralt 19 дней назад

@@MichalKaczorowski I don't even think it would even be Greek propaganda given how anglicized Sparta is in the movie.

@shush2000 17 дней назад

ANOTHER new video featuring Dr. Dig-a-Ditch? My morning just improved drastically!

@Storming32 19 дней назад

The 'Long War' series by Christian Cameron is a great historical fiction for those interested in the Persian Wars.

@dunstonlion1342 19 дней назад

I see a Roel video, I watch a Roel video.

$@fractalfae5418$

@fractalfae5418 19 дней назад

Someone needs to make a historically authentic movie about Thermopylae and hire Roel as historical advisor.

@corvus2512 18 дней назад

Exactly, ever since I saw his first video I always ask myself why don’t these movies and tv shows hire guys like him? There is no way being more accurate would mean less cinematic

@dusankazandzic401 18 дней назад

History isn't as cool or plot willing always,there's a reason why they don't do it

@darknesswave100 17 дней назад

If they did it would be boring as hell. If they actually did that then the movie would bomb cause actual history isn't as exciting as Hollywood makes it out to be. Are there cool moments? Absolutely but not like the movies portray stuff

@clydefrog203 17 дней назад

Because it would usually only interest history dorks like us. Just look how popular this ridiculous movie was. I was so excited to see this in theaters and can't explain how disappointed I was.

@Rob-qv8hi 16 дней назад

Yes! He will have the Spartans dig 8000 ditches (including up the mountains and under the sea) and when the Persians attack, the song played will be Dragula with the lyric " Dig through the ditches and burn through the witches" on loop.

@AhJong0 14 дней назад

Despite a serious lack of ditches, this guy remains my favourite of all the history experts that pop up on these channels.

@ks.kyokudonanshun 19 дней назад

I absolutely loved this deep dive. More please!

@mr.mentesh8130 19 дней назад

After you build a ditch...you build another...on a serious note this guy is very informative

@Rastafaustian 19 дней назад

The Flintstones: How accurate is it?

@gengiful 19 дней назад

That was really interesting. More of this please

@EGSBiographies-om1wb 5 дней назад

I walked into a truck stop in Sparta Wiscinsin and yelled *Spartans,prepare for glory* !! I got a chuckle out of the deisel cleck.

@t.longfield8982 19 дней назад

Ah, fijn. Roel heeft er verstand van! Go Roel, you rule!

@Alex-cw3rz 19 дней назад

The Scottish spartan accent is biblically accurate

@aminahamdkhaniha6738 19 дней назад

As a iranian I would like to add some things to this the first and most important is the Persians were famous for being merciful Syrus the great is the oldest known in history that created human rights ( syrus cylinder) so the fact that they show Persians as this barbaric kings and generals is just disrespectful second thing is about the immortals they were called immortals beacuse they looked similar to each other when one died in the field one other person took the others place so in the fight it looked like their not dying atleast what our history books said the last thing is persian cavalry is exactly very old and was a persian version of the cataphract it so basically the cataphract which was a roman was romes response to the persian caverly.

@aminahamdkhaniha6738 19 дней назад

I also like to add one last thing Persians were zerastrians (spelling might be off) the 3 most famous qoutes of ahora mazda was say no evil do no evil hear no evil

@jimmyandersson9938 17 дней назад

I heard some Iranians saying the word " immortal " is in fact wrong, they were called something more similiar to " companions " like the Macedonian cavalry, but no idea whats correct. Persians were indeed famous for being merciful with human rights, and should have much credit for it. But they were also a global expanding empired who waged war all over the known world, so Persians being the " bad guy " in some movies is just normal, just like the Brittish empire, Romans etc. Also many people revolted against them, Egyptians were treated very poorly for example which lead to one of the many uprisings that happend.

@aminahamdkhaniha6738 17 дней назад

@@jimmyandersson9938 I've heard that also but in our history books they are called az "javidan" as in never dying or immortal but I know what your saying it's very uncommon

@valantisxiotis938 16 дней назад

The elite Persian force was called "immortals" because they replaced the dead soldiers as soon as they could,so the force had always the same number of soldiers,so they were typically "immortals"

@FilmingFish 14 дней назад

As an Iranian you may have been presented with a somewhat whitewashed version Persian history when you were raised. The Persian’s granted more autonomy than other empires of their era to those who surrendered to them, but those who resisted (i.e. tried to maintain their independence/freedom) were still colonised, massacred and enslaved. They may have been more lenient to the people who accepted subjugation, but they were just as brutal as others to those who defended themselves from Persian imperialism. People would probably be less inclined to show ancient Persian kings and generals as barbaric if their ancestors hadn’t been attacked and enslaved by them. This is a stylized depiction of a fairly barbaric slave-empire (even if others at the time were barbaric too by modern standards).

@Tuilelen 19 дней назад

I just love listening to Roel talk about history

@MartinPurvis 19 дней назад

Ditchman: The Chronicles

@ven_skywalker7007 19 дней назад

Taking signatures to petition Dr. Ditch to have his own channel here 👇🖋️📜

@toumpanis 19 дней назад

I love the part where he actually said about those quotes being delivered by mail and not spoken :) Really good break down! Thank you Mr Roel Konijnendijk

@Ipsifendis 19 дней назад

i LOVE your review videos, professor K!

@christophercruz1513 19 дней назад

Give us more of this guy please we love the Ditch guy

@DOSBoxMom 19 дней назад

In tabletop RPGs, skimpy female adventurer outfits are often called "distract-the-monsters armor". This Spartan army in "300" is obviously wearing "distract-the-Persians" armor. ;)

@maybeyourbaby6486 18 дней назад

Honestly, the skimpy Spartans is about the only thing I think this movie got totally right. The ancient greeks would've been all over it lol Maybe they could've been just a bit more lubed up in olive oil? But other than that, perfectly captures the spirit

@QuikVidGuy День назад

@@maybeyourbaby6486I would also like more olive oil on them... for historical reasons

@grimnartusk265 19 дней назад

I’d listen to dude tell me how grass grew differently back then because ditches were dug deeper and the roots got deeper or something. Love bro, fantastic video and I’m so damned thrilled to see homie popping up more often. Dude does need a dedicated channel fasho

@nekrataali 12 дней назад

In the movie Gladiator's opening battle scene, the trees aren't historically accurate (I'm not joking). Homogeneous forests in Europe weren't a thing until the late 1800s when reforestation efforts were made to grow more lumber after forests were clear cut and overexploited. That opening scene taking place in 180 AD should have featured all kinds of different trees and plants, not just the firs shown in the film. Wouldn't surprise me at all if this guy knew about what kind of grasses were growing in ancient Greece lmao

@NA-en7kz День назад

It is the story-telling, alliteration, and purposeful exaggeration that help this movie stand out. Now if they tried to tell me that this is based on historical fact, and not an over the top story telling of a crazy historical event, I'd be more on this historians side. That said. Great review and I loved learning more from this guy!

@abasudoh7459 19 дней назад

Dug one ditch then another ditch then somebody said to me, "Why you babysitting, only 2 or 3 ditches? I can show you how to turn a notch..."

@peka2478 19 дней назад

i just love this guy..

@MurderTurtle 19 дней назад

This movie has very big "made relatively soon after 9/11" vibes

@naan-jf9gh 19 дней назад

Yep...

@jerry12314 16 дней назад

Sure lets just forget how its from 1998 comic book.

@naan-jf9gh 16 дней назад

@@jerry12314 Not like there wasn't ample American involvement prior to 9/11 in the Middle East right? Not like the timing of this film as soldiers were being deployed to Iraq was a factor right? Stay quiet, adults are speaking.

@MurderTurtle 16 дней назад

@@jerry12314 I said "movie".

@jerry12314 16 дней назад

@@naan-jf9gh What's that got to do with 300? The movie was scene-by-scene word for word from the comics in 1998.

@cryptidian3530 19 дней назад

Love it. Now we need him to break down Alexander.

@northwall9243 19 дней назад

Thoroughly enjoyed that, quality stuff.

@user-nq7xu6gz7n 19 дней назад

Thank you, great video )

@polygondon 19 дней назад

This video is insane. Thank you

@ShaktiChaturvedi 19 дней назад

Time to dig in For this breakdown

@Kermitthebadger 19 дней назад

why do i have such a huge crush on this man? sigh

@twonumber22 19 дней назад

hey get in line pal

@luvahadowsdolls 19 дней назад

You aren't alone honey 😂

@kdks7843 19 дней назад

Perhaps because you have a ditch fetish?

@nachtschatten8710 19 дней назад

No idea but you arent alone in that. 😂😅

@massi6528 19 дней назад

Cuz he's a ditch expert?

@richardjohn5219 19 дней назад

Very informative and entertaining video

@saidtoshimaru1832 19 дней назад

21:05 - "I have no idea what Frank Miller was snorting when he came up with this".

@trytorang 18 дней назад

He explains things very well and is easy to listen too, hope to see him more often in the near future.

@Vollce 19 дней назад

I can't believe he didn't mention the massive ditch in the very first scene.

@reddevilsunited_2060 19 дней назад

I would like to see him go over the 2nd movie as well.

@SiegAgus 19 дней назад

Now I want him to talk about "Alatriste", not many people give that movie a lot of credit and it's a masterpiece!

@BB-pw8ko 18 дней назад

Love this!!! NEED so much more of these from this genius man!!

@Aengus42 19 дней назад

That was better than the film! Absolutely fascinating. Thank you!

@ccptube3468 19 дней назад

Best War Historian Ever

@ramsessiereveld2824 17 дней назад

Roel: I specialize in ... me: DITCHES!! Roel: Greek warfare and Sparta. me: 😮

@JanOndrejPA 18 дней назад

I love this guy. I think he is so unique and entertaining because you can see how interested and in love he is with his subject, and that intrinsic motivation is contagious. For me at least.

@RainKoepke-ic3gf 19 дней назад

If i recall, hitorically king Leonidas was an old man. Near the official retirement age like 60, he still went and fought and died in battle.

@malakaspawt3190 17 дней назад

55yo Leonidas would kick any modern (2024) average man of 20-40yo. An average 40yo man from 1940 fighting an average 40yo man from 2024, the 40yo from 1940 kicks the 2024 guy's ass!

@terrycruise-zd5tw 15 дней назад

@@malakaspawt3190 yep, spear and shield vs gun

@malakaspawt3190 14 дней назад

@@terrycruise-zd5tw I meant with no weapons in hand-to-hand combat.

@RainKoepke-ic3gf 13 дней назад

@@malakaspawt3190I never that much thought to his health and fitness in regards to his age in spartan times vs now. He probably would've looked phenomenal knowing how fit and well fed the Spartans were at this junction

@kenmarklong 19 дней назад

This guy is awesome

@Jari_Sanou 18 дней назад

On behalf of all history buffs: “don’t ditch this guy; he Roels.”

@mrsnulch 19 дней назад

As a Greek I find 300 entertaining, but I actually think Roel goes way too easy on it here! One thing he doesn’t mention in this video is the biggest flaw of 300. “You have many slaves Xerxes, but few soldiers”. Or the line at 7:58. This movie is obsessed with depicting the Spartans as “free men” in response to the great slave empire that is Persia. But the Spartans were a major slave state, very few people living in Sparta were free. Most of them were helots, ethnically Greek slaves who were sometimes ritualistically killed by Spartan warriors. Meanwhile the Achaemenid Empire, while not perfect, was pretty open to the freedoms of people under the empire. This movie also over-emphasizes the unity of Greeks - the Spartans would team up with the Persians to sack Athens during the Peloponnesian War a few years later. If you want history, don’t trust 300 at all haha, it’s just a crazy graphic novel.

@jimmyandersson9938 17 дней назад

What Leonidas means with " you have many slaves " is from a Spartan perspective who valued their indepedence and freedom above everything else. Most of the soldiers here except for the " immortals " are being under the rule of a foreign conquerer, forced to traval abroad to fight Persian wars with their blood is like being a slave, just not the chain around wrist working in a field one. " This movie also over-emphasizes the unity of Greeks - the Spartans would team up with the Persians to sack Athens during the Peloponnesian War a few years later. " This comment doesnt make any sense, the movie is only based on events happening during the second persian invasion, and during this time they were united, and the movie is bad for showing only this because the Peleponnesian war happend later in history many years AFTER the movie ends? What were you thinking here?

@andrew3203 15 дней назад

The Spartans were free men. Them keeping other people as slaves didn't make the Spartans themselves less free. In fact, it gave them even more free time since the slaves were working instead. As for unity, the victory at Plateea came exactly from the Greek unity. That it didn't last long only proves that Greeks were as human as we are today, and prone to being bribed and corrupted by wealth and power.

@terrycruise-zd5tw 15 дней назад

@@andrew3203 but the spartan slaves outnumbered the spartan citizens, so its stupid for leonidus to criticize xerxes while sparta is even worse lol. its silly everytime leonisdus crticizes others while sparta and himself are the same- if not worse lol

@jimmyandersson9938 14 дней назад

@@terrycruise-zd5tw This is where so many people missunderstand. Leonidas is not criticizing or taking any moral highground here, he is just mocking Xerxes army for being composed of mostly slaves. Basically you got the quantity but we got the quality.

@VRichardsn 14 дней назад

Roel usually goes more into detail regarding the slaves topic when he writes on Reddit. He is a regular of r/askhistorians.

@blarown 19 дней назад

We need more Konijnendijk!

@guilhermedomingues6360 19 дней назад

I am a simple guy i see the ditchman i click

@lanarkorras4411 17 дней назад

I really like Roel, partly because of his delightfully smug attitude, so his first sigh at the baby myth is an excellent way of getting things started. 😊 Love seeing such an elaborate deep dive!!

@clivedunn2653 19 дней назад

Really enjoy the history with this guy

@andnowwecry9225 19 дней назад

That face at minute 7:13.

@hosseinnoor392 18 дней назад

As a Persian I’ll forgive this exactly because of what frank miller was snorting

@andrew3203 13 дней назад

@@hosseinnoor392 always glad to meet a true immortal from the days when Persia still existed.

@aysha5488 8 дней назад

Yaay my favorite Historian is back !! ❤❤

@esteva03 19 дней назад

This was awesome. Also I love how he talk about something and quotes who said it an when. It's not the same to hear someone talk about something they are contemporary to, than someone that is telling a story that happened hundreds of years before. I am going to read up on my Herodotus and Plutarch. 😁👍

@Polumetis 19 дней назад

You have to remember, the entire movie is basically a campfire retelling of the battle by Dilios, prior to the battle of Plataea. It's in-universe propaganda, basically. That's why the Persians, especially the Immortals, are depicted as so monstrous.

@erikdayne5429 19 дней назад

That’s a really good point. That definitely explains the half goat playing the flute in Xerxes tent.

@hempsellastro 19 дней назад

Exactly it is an exploration of myth building.

@Frank_Nemo 19 дней назад

Yep, this exactly what I had to explain to large numbers of Iranians (Persians) a year or so after the release of 300. Back then, I used to create themes for the Firefox browser and made one called, 300, in the style of this film, which was very popular worldwide. Well, not so popular in Iran, I admit.

@DrRoelKonijnendijk 19 дней назад

I've always found this a really unsatisfactory excuse. After all, the story that we actually have of Thermopylai in the ancient sources ALREADY IS the Spartan propaganda story. Practically everything we know about this battle reflects how the Spartans wanted people to remember it. The movie is many orders of magnitude more extreme and ridiculous than the Spartan propaganda we know.

@dionysusNME 19 дней назад

If it is about the creation of a Spartan mythology, why is none of the mythology proffered actually relevant to Sparta or the way they actually lived? It seems more like "western civilization" myth building for a modern society that had just invaded part of the old Persian world

@thrawnbayern5249 19 дней назад

I hearby start the petition for that mans official slogan being: siges (sieges) get ditches!!!

@lenanana8 19 дней назад

Always a pleasure to hear Dr. Roel's detailed historical insight. I'm a huge ancient history buff, especially Greece and Persia, and I dug so many ditches in anticipation of this! This movie gets zero points for no ditches dug, but 100 points for David Wenham: Faramir, Captain of Gondor, who showed his quality! I just noticed now, after watching Zach Snyder's Rebel Moon movies, how much slow-mo he uses and frankly its draggy (although when I first watched 300 when it first came out it was novel).

@LordHolley 10 дней назад

My friend, I've enjoyed your video but I almost feel like I need to point out that if they wanted to do a documentary, I don't think they would have called Frank Miller.....lol. It's supposed to be sensationalized, entertaining recreation based on the actual events. Imho, they nailed it. It's also really interesting to hear someone who has studied these people to share a more accurate picture as to how this would have really looked. I hope you keep making videos.