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dude 11 out of ten bro some things i didnt like in the beginning but holy after episode 3 and 6 it just took off one of the most amazing tv shows ive seen in awhile i cannot express how much i enjoyed this show lol
@YAZAN *NICE!!!! I'm glad that you gave it a high rating & I enjoyed many of these episodes but I think episodes 4, 6 & a couple of others which is includes episode 10 were some of the best in the show.*
@fundhund62 *The show isn't fir everyone which is totally fine. I'm glad that you have your own opinion & perspective of the show for yourself & that's what matters the most. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.*
Could not agree more. The general reception to this show ...i.e. less than expected viewership numbers on Disney+, makes me realize even more how the general audience for this property prefers action heavy scenes filled often with space wizards, flying fighters and spaceships with little that is asked of them other than to enjoy the spectacle and the established lore of the universe.
It's because the Sequel movies and 4 terrible TV shows ruined Star Wars for everyone. Andor is soo good, it's wasted in this universe. Always remember that THIS writing is canon alongside Lizzo and Jack Black.
@@TheTexasDice Yeah, after the sequels and especially book of boba fett, many people weren't that hyped for more star wars. I'm glad I gave Andor a chance, but i haven't watched the rest of Fett, nor any interest in watching Mandalorian season 3, which may or may not be decent as well. I have a tiny hope for ahsoka to be good, but i wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.
Maarva's remains being used to whack a fascist and spark an entire rebellion is exactly the send-off she would have wanted. She's living the dream, even in death.
I think you are all misreading his reactions. He’s a dark presence. He’s a dark side force user, if not aligned with Sidious, then probably allied with Dooku or Maul. He’s going to turn out to not be the hero you think he is.
@@nateinindy3460 there's no force users in this season, the writers clearly said. And you're clearly missing the point of the show, none of the characters are truly good, they're very unethical people fighting for freedom, the rebellion wasn't built by purity, it was these type of men who lit the spark for rebellion
Andor is a masterpiece of SW writing. It’s not relying on past references from movies or shows, cheesy dialogue, or a lot of action scenes. It does it’s own thing and does it beautifully. I can’t understand why some SW fans do not like this show, but those that enjoy this show truly love it.
*Like I keep saying. The entire star wars universe isn't for everyone. But, everyone CAN find SOMETHING within the star wars universe to enjoy & love. We're not going to like or love everyone that the universe has to offer us, whether it's a book, comic book, TV show or film. I personally have loved the show in it entirety, but some other fans just can't get into it & that's totally fine.*
@The Northie *Lol! Naw. Not me. I don't care. The creators work with what they have & present us the final product that I won't critique in its entirety for the most part. I just want to sit, watch & hope that I enjoy what I'm watching in those moments.*
But good grief there are fans downright hostile to this show. I love Andor but not so much the other Disney plus live action Star Wars shows but I would never go on a RU-vid channel and comment just to get a rise. Childish.
There was so much emotion in the way she said it. It felt real and was a reflection of the justified anger everyone in the crowd was feeling toward the empire in that moment. Brilliant performance by Fiona Shaw.
She SPITS it out like a bad taste, and I love it! Plus I remember her doing something similar when she called the Empire bastards back in episode 3. :)
The scene where Cassian is trying to talk Marva into leaving and she refuses is an absolute MASTER CLASS in acting by Fiona Shaw....specifically when Cassian says, "I won't have peace, I'll be worried about you all the time..." and she replies, "that's just love..." wooooo chills
@@Deletaste As someone that lives under the constant question of whether to immigrate or not, those lines encapsulate why I'm convinced no option will fully make me happy.
This show can easily hit GOT status if they can do 4 seasons of this leading to Rogue One in all honesty this beats House of The Dragon for show of the year since Better Call Saul is out of the running season
I love that they don’t show Maarva dying, but rather show this message from her. That her words and her spirit for her fellow Ferrix folks are what she is. Not merely a dead body, but a woman whose final words gave hope and pride to a city of people who were wronged. That Maarva was more important than showing her death.
Luthen when he said in his monologue before "I share my dreams with ghosts" resonated so hard seeing his reaction at 3:20. Maarva's speech gave further proof to him that he is indeed sharing his dreams with ghosts.
I teared up a little at the speech. Cause she's right. Oppression grows in the dark, while we remain ignorant and sleep. We won't know it's taken over us until it's too late, unless we wake up. I felt like it was somehow both a parallel and a contrast to Luthen's monologue- The two sides of the rebellion, the sacrifice, and the hope. Only together can the rebellion truly succeed, and I think even Luthen realized that when he was hearing Maarva's message.
WE just got the Twitter files and see what they were doing in the dark. People need to care more. Canada and Oregon just past legislation to take away our means to stop them. They can't hide the truth, but postponing it's airing prevents us from rising up.
The speech is written so brilliantly as it takes it time and slowly builds to one of the most inspirational and heartfelt I have ever heard as she delivers that final passionately delivered line “Fight the empire!!!” just before the empire silences her. Some truly great writing !
What I particularly love is that they proved her right, if they had kept back instead of trying to silence her the riot wouldnt have started, but they did. In that moment they demonstrated the truth of her words and the need to fight. The tighter the hand of the oppressor grips the more slips through his fingers which wonderfully links to Leia too.
He's the man who's been killing Rebels in the dark for the greater good. Maybe this speech helps him reconsider, that there is no 'greater' good, there's just the good and he hasn't been the one doing it.
@@smartalec2001 He already knows that what he’s doing is wrong though. He just thinks it’s necessary for him to dirty his hands. That’s literally what his monologue was about, how he sacrificed his future and any chance of redemption with it.
So I didn’t except her funeral speech to be the birthplace of the rebellion but I love it. It’s such a great speech and the way people react is so cool. Ferrix is the hearth of the rebellion and maarva is the first rebel. Love this.
It isnt it's a lot of things add up. Remember, She was inspired by the raid and the theft of imperial payroll. I think it's trying to say we move forward with all our little contribution. it begins to snowball into something bigger.
I’ve rewatched this scene 5 times and every time I tear up, watching Luthen realize that the rebellion has is in fact fought everywhere like Nemik said seeing the woman who raised the lad he came to kill is in fact the rebel leader he wished to be
out of all the fantastic moments in this show, and there are many, this scene is probably my favorite. maarva's brick being used to beat the crap out of imperials literally made me cheer.
Never has a Star Wars show so thoroughly explored Totalitarianism in power, along with its peculiar ideology of total domination from within through the mass atomization of the whole people, brought about from isolation and erosion of the public trust, and the total elimination of spontaneity in peoples lives. These are the preconditions for turning the actions of every person into reactions so one person cannot be defined separately from all the others. Under such conditions resistance becomes near impossible as not 1o people can come together and form bonds of trust as any semblance of common humanity becomes harder and harder to identify as thinking is replaced by conditioned responses. Totalitarian power, in the views of it’s leaders, is basically created through the organization of isolated people who are atomized into individual units whose coming together, essentially, draw power similarly to how friction or galvanic currents generates electricity. As a result these movements tend to openly defy rationality by adhering to an endless and structureless momentum that must always remain in motion. The only way to enforce this kind of continuous mass momentum is through constant terror and constant purges. Violence, intolerance, and hatred is not based in any constitutionalized set of principles, it’s simply what allows an atomized group of people to remain organized and provides the momentum so necessary for Totalitarian organizations to carry out their murdurous and dominating objectives for dominations sake alone. And never has a show more embodied that the best defense against such an ideology is spontaneity and love, because the only thing that holds it together is hate and terror.
Even a cold person like Luthian is moved by the speech. 3:20 You could see the slight smile in his face in the mention of the empire. Best part this, perfect music chills 🥶
I cried on this scene, you can feel the fire burning in everyone's heart, and how Maarva's speech ignited the spark they neeed, FIGHT THE EMPIRE. ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾 Drove me to tears.❤❤❤❤
Sorry I'm late with this but videos are going crazy over this masterpiece of a speech "My name is Maarva Carassi Andor. I'm honored to stand before you. I'm honored to be a Daughter of Ferrix and honored to be worthy of the stone. Strange... I feel as if I can see it. I was six, I think, first time I touched a funerary stone. Heard our music, felt our history, holding my sister's hand as we walked all the way from Fountain Square. Where you stand now, I've been more times than I can remember. I always wanted to be lifted. I was always eager, always waiting to be inspired. I remember every time it happened, every time the dead lifted me... with their truth. And now I'm dead. And I yearn to lift you. Not because I want to shine or even be remembered. It's because I want you to go on. I want Ferrix to continue. In my waning hours, that's what comforts me most. But I fear for you. We've been sleeping. I've been sleeping. We've had each other, and Ferrix, our work, our days. We had each other, and they left us alone. We kept the trade lanes open, and they left us alone. We took their money, and ignored them, we kept their engines churning, and the moment they pulled away, we forgot them. Because we had each other. We had Ferrix. But we were sleeping. I've been sleeping. And I've been turning away from the truth I wanted not to face. There is a wound that won't heal at the center of the galaxy. There is a darkness reaching like rust into everything around us. We let it grow, and now it's here. It's here, and it's not visiting anymore. It wants to stay. The Empire is a disease that thrives in darkness, it is never more alive than when we sleep. It's easy for the dead to tell you to fight, and maybe it's true, maybe fighting is useless. Perhaps it's too late. But I'll tell you this... If I could do it again, I would wake up early and be fighting these bastards...from the start! *Fight the Empire!* " Maarva just put the whole idea of the show in the best #1 speech ever seen in Star Wars
The build up to Maarva's speech, the score building during the speech, the faces of the ferrix citizens, the imperial officer becoming more agitated, the score building building growing, the tears down the face of the boy as he makes his personal decision.....wow....just.....wow.......for me the most powerful moment in all of Star Wars.....BRAVO TONY GILROY!!!!
There is so much deep, deep lore and meaning woven into this speech. In just a few minutes we learn about decades of this woman's life, the culture she grew up in, the hopes and fears of an entire generation of people. Incredible.
I think there is a parallel to Luthen's powerful monologue. I like the parallel to Jyn and Galen's moment in Rogue. I suspect that Luthen believes in Andor and sees where he comes from and who raised him... Luthen sees himself in Andor. We are better for it.
*I agree. Luthen gained some real insight into Cassian because he was there at the funeral & saw the people of Ferrix & heard Maarva's speech. This I Belo is what will cause him to trust Cassian moving forward in the rebellion.*
Greatest moment of the rebellion. No space wizards. No light sabers. Just normal people standing up against an overwhelming force. Most revolts are brutally crushed, this one most likely will be too. But it is the spark that ignites the embers, that some day turn to flame and eventually burn down the fascists oppressive empire in an inferno.
3:50 one of my favourite shots in all of Star Wars. High angle of Brasso looking up to Maarva, and looking up towards hope: the hope for Ferrix. His expression timed with the musical cue is bone-chilling and awesome, and I don't think there are many other Star Wars scenes that produce this type of pure awe for me. Masterful ❤️
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, a woman name Maarva Carassi Andor gave a clarion call to any who would listen, to maintain vigilance and to fight against the forces of oppression. May her words be emblazoned into the minds and actions of those brave enough to wake up and rebel against those who would keep you asleep, subordinate, and subservient. Fight the empires in your life.
Andor's one of my favourite bits of media (full stop not just Star Wars) because it shows the moral grey area of rebellion and oppression without totally bottling it and painting both sides as being as bad as each other. I spent the first three episodes waiting for the other shoe to drop and it never did. Andor knows where the blame lies, and where all the violence ultimately comes from. It demonstrates this in each of the three main story arcs, but it's best shown throughout in the character of Luthen. He is a bad dude, there's no question about that, but instead of focussing on this as if to say "the ends don't justify the means" in the cowardly, lazy and edgy way that so much other media does, it saves its ire for the real cause - these BASTARDS who are destroying the world(s) for their own selfish, and often totally banal, personal gain, and who can't help themselves but to push ordinary people too far. Luthen isn't judged by the show, because it respects its viewer enough to know that we don't judge him half as harshly as he judges himself, and that we can see exactly what has pushed him to the point he is at. It's all the more impactful because the villains are so terrifyingly mundane. I've met all of them at one point or another in my life. It may seem a bit silly to praise a Star Wars show for being anti-Empire and pro-Rebellion, but I've never known a Star Wars property to make the Empire feel so real and relevant. It's peopled by dull, dreary men and women who live in dark places and work in endless cubicled hell-holes and yet will die to defend them, and will hate other people who see their miserable lives for what they truly are; and it's driven by rapacious commerce, exploitation and the apathy of the masses. Andor never shies away from this reality, and it only glorifies resistance to it. It's pretty politically subversive and I can't believe Disney made it.
This show is full of big and epic moments like this. I was cheering this show like if I was in the theater watching endgame. The best thing about this show is that it doesn’t try to buy you with light sabers, any known last name from the previous trilogies or even a baby yoda. This show was capable of brighting by itself showing you that the star wars universe have so much to bring to the franchise rather than Jedis vs siths🤦🏻♂️
This show is not just a great Star Wars show, it’s a great show period. The gut wrenching ness of rebellion, the sorrows of loss. It just got made more epic because it blends all these themes with our favorite Star Wars characters and worlds, it transformed something that already had lore. What shows have done that I recently memory? I can’t think of one.
This show is the reason why the sequels hurt so much. All the pain and suffering endured, all the sacrifices made to defeat the empire. And they dare to tell me in episode 7 that it was all worthless by undoing all the Rebellion has accomplished within one hour of the movie because somehow Palpatine returned with an even better death star???
On top of everything else about this scene, I ADORE the music. It gets more epic as Maarva goes on, building up to the triumphant climax slowly with added instruments like subtle drums, horns, additional strings. What started as one beautiful but subtle tune builds up to a soaring orchestra full of hope and beauty and inspiration. One flame becomes an inferno. One person helps the Rebellion come together.
Brasso, screaming and wielding the funerary stone of Maarva Andor as a weapon and a beacon for the Rebellion, is everything. Man, I love this show. It's just so inspiring and well crafted.
Pro Tip ladies and gents when facing a police shield wall they cross support each other. So the best method is group cooperation on single points then counters on areas of the shield wall that have shifted to provide support to the current area of attack. Once a breach is made it important to go sideways rather than straight back.
This show is hands down the best Star Wars live action show, even better than some of the movies. This scene, this speech, the music, everything was so beautiful and moving. I can't possibly understand how some people don't think this show is Star Wars, this is peak Star Wars.
Cassian’s father literally explains how planned obsolescence works in a flash back. A fundamental component of how modern capitalism incentivizes profit over long term functionality.
It’s gonna be deliciously ironic when a kid who was radicalised by this show starts an actual revolution that eventually results in some… consequences shall we say? for many of the big wigs at the Disney corporation
This might be the most pivotal scene in all of Star Wars canon. It's my favorite scene for sure. In 1991, when Fiona Shaw played the comedic role of Elspeth Lomax in 'Three Men and a Little Lady', I never imagined that she would ever play such a powerful role (Maarva Andor) in the Star Wars Universe. Her posthumous speech was epic awesome! I think there should be a ship in the New Republic named after Maarva Andor.
Such a great speech. We're often shown the rebellion from the side of people who have been long committed to the cause, not people who slowly come to the realization of what's happening - Ferrix, what one might call a loyal or collaborator planet, gradually realizing the encroaching threat wanting a little more every time it stopped by was done encroaching, and it was THERE to stay and tell them what to do. No one has ever appreciated when empire comes to their land, telling them what to do, and I think we can all appreciate in a way what Ferrix and Maarva were feeling.
This scene and the fight that occurs afterwards is probably my favourite piece of media I've ever seen on a streaming platform, maybe even on TV. It's very powerful and carefully curated. You can tell this show had a lot of care and took pride in being something different from other Star Wars content.
@@danieloconnell2757 i cant say it was my favourite show in the world, not even of the year but it was definitely sensational and I cannot wait for series 2 I hate that we have to wait so long. Also these channels and RU-vid just in general do not give Genevieve O’Reilly the praise she deserves. She owned that series with her facial expressions alone
There is a very important message that I think some of us are ignoring I do not remember who said it but I remember that they confronted palpatine and told him: while you clench your fist with more force systems will escape from between your fingers I think this scene is a clear example of that the funeral service was not being hostile despite marva's message the population was still afraid until the empire tried to oppress the message then The population woke up and they were ready to fight The Empire
This might be my favorite moment in the whole series, which is a high bar to clear because the show itself is just so good, the whole show builds to this moment, and it is so powerful because of all we’ve been through with the characters to get here, I felt like a member of the crowd in Ferrix, personally being empowered to wake up and fight back
They SHOW THE AUDIENCE how the community cares for Maarva and Bee. *We* care for Bee because we see how everyone cares for and respects Bee. Bee is anxious, emotional, and has a stutter. The people of Ferrix are naturally drawn to protect their own. They all must know how difficult it must be for Bee to go up there and, in essence, provide a eulogy for his mother. And in the fucking middle of it they kick Bee to the ground. The fury I felt in that moment was so beautifully encapsulated by the ensuing riot. It's like... you can occupy us, you can execute us, you can push us around, but when Maarva Andor tells us to riot and you kick over the little anxious guy? WE WILL BOMB YOUR FUCKING TANK
I think Luthen was reminded of what he was fighting for. He's been fighting the Empire for so long that he's begun acting like them and this was probably a wake up call for Luthen. A rebellion was born right in front of his eyes and it was kicked off, not by Luthen, but by the guy he went there to kill. I imagine he feels conflicted by what he's done, where he's going, what he's doing it for and how he's accomplishing that. I bet he's also pleased that all of his sacrifices were not for nothing. I imagine in S2 we'll get to see some more of Luthen's rebellion. Why he's fighting. And it'll bring a whole lot more meaning to this scene.
There is just so much gold with this series, it fixes a lot of the problems/tropes with all star wars just the fact that the troopers didn't put their shields up until ordered to shows that they are actually disciplined. The Empire isn't incompetent just not caring as they seem themselves so much bigger then any small up rising that can challenge them, the rebellion really wasn't fueled by the actions of a few but from the suffering of the many (Luthen then lit a match). People who are nobodies are now standing up to the empire.
I actually think it's better with no Force references in it or "space wizards" it shows normal people and the roots of the open rebellion. Saying that I do like her reference to an "open wound " and" growing darkness " I guess that is in many ways the Emperor's political and sith power.
@@paulwiths Pretty much Vader, Mas Amedda, Sly Moore, and probably Bail Organa and Mon Mothma (the two being the founders of the Rebellion, and the former having spent time with Yoda and Kenobi after Order 66). Other than that, I can't think of anyone who knew and survived beyond the founding of the Empire, save for those few Jedi who escaped the Purge.
I loved Maarva from the first moment, but that speech.. Phew.. I sat on the sofa and felt like I had to rebel - I have no idea who or what, but I felt it and I cried. Maarva was and is a great inspiration. We should remember her and fight these bastards
@@derrickmarais Oh, I thought you meant "despised" as in "a badly acted character", not "despised" as in "a well-played character who's evil". Thanks for clarifying.
This is SO beautiful. Marva is important to the rebellion. I know it’s fiction, yet she KNEW, after her death that she would give this speech. “Andor” is probably (within DEBATE) the best STAR WARS shows I’ve ever watched, beside “Rebels”.
Kudos to Disney for taking a spinoff show based on a spinoff Star Wars character and making it the most emotionally stirring and visually compelling antifascist media of this generation
maarva is the first star wars character Ive seen actually hurting someone after their death, albeit being wielded as a blunt instrument, way to go daughter of ferrix!
I don’t think “uplifting” is the word I would use to describe the effect that Maarva’s rhetorically brilliant and powerful funeral oration has on the citizens of Ferrix. Maarva makes her fellow citizens aware of their *shame*-a shame she confesses openly yet regretfully that she has shared with them-bc for some time now, they (just as she had done for most of her life) have been *choosing* the *easy* route, the path of apathy and least resistance, the path of passivity that allows authoritarian regimes to grow in power and commit their crimes against humanity with impunity….She “wakes Ferrix up” from its lazy slumber, and in so doing, she does *ennoble* them. As for Luthen, his dream is at last starting to realise itself: the Empire’s ever-tightening, oppressive grip on the galaxy is *at last* causing the natural reaction of Rebellion. What Luthen witnesses happening before him are the first few sparks of the galaxy-wide conflagration known as the Galactic Civil War.
