WATCH exclusive bonus content where *Andrew* answers audience questions. CLICK the link: triggernometry.locals.com/ CHAPTERS👇 00:00 Intro 01:09 Sponsor Message: The Tired Moderate 02:44 Who Is Andrew Klavan? 06:39 Every Good Story Begins With a Boy & a Girl 10:02 Women in Today’s Culture 14:35 What is Going on with the Film Industry? 17:56 The Constructs of Power 22:24 Sponsor Message: Locals 23:26 The Film Industry & American Values 29:38 Is the West Coming to an End? 33:32 Why Are the Arts No Longer Open to New Ideas? 39:34 Old-School Liberal Values 42:30 The Power of the Left 48:37 America’s Loss of Rebel Spirit 54:46 The True Artists Are the Rebels 57:38 Andrew’s Thoughts on Donald Trump/DeSantis 1:02:26 How Do We Reach an Anti-Woke World? 1:08:21 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?
Hey Guys, Great interview with Andrew. I recall when I first encountered his videos many years ago, how his presentation and quick wit seemed so familiar to me...Then and now, he reminds me of someone I expect you may be familiar with on your side of the Pond--Pat Condell. It would be amazing if you could track him down and sit for a chat, though you may have to restrict such an episode to Rumble since he has become somewhat radioactive here on RU-vid over the years.
This was a great guest you guys had. I did not know who Kaplan was, and in a few minutes I have become a fan. Please keep up your amazing work, the two of you are an awesome team.
Of course everyone at the Daily Wire is a DeSantis shill. DeSantis CANNOT win in the Midwest (Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan) because he voted for the TRANS-PACIFIC PARTNERSHIP.
I’m a civil engineer, but quit to stay home with my now four babies and never looked back. I may use it in the future but I love being a mother and my children are my greatest investment and legacy.
@@grannyannie2948 Right. But they need the opportunity to do so. We also need to protect the homemakers financially for spending decades in raising citizens. Too many women in their 40s are left by their husbands once the kids are grown. A woman only one man away from welfare. It is true.
"it's impossible to make a good story out of Wokeness, because it has no inner, spiritual life. It's all about power" damn that's a brilliant insight..
the other side of that coin is "we are going to win and get some control of our society by being against having power"... this is yet again keep trying the same thing that already failed. people are getting really tired of that
I hope you are not suggesting that the libertarians (the opposite of Woke in my opinion) don't want power? That would be naive to the extreme. We do tend to think that only progressives virtue signal but that is so far from the truth it is almost insulting. This is a very interesting conversation but not for one second did I think this guy was not peddling the virtues of his side of the culture war.
As a woman this brought up a lot of emotions about how my life has played out, and I have had 3 children. You cannot give the time you want to your kids or family because working for £11/hr you need both parents working full time to live without high levels of money worries and give your family more than just enough. Thank you for this conversation.
My wife and I did it. We thought it was more important for her to be there full time while our three children were in the development years. We simply accepted we were going to get by on less. I still believe it was the right decision. Our children all came out happy and stable and successful.
I think the government should pay mothers for doing the vital job of raising the next generation. On top of their husband's earnings since many men nowadays don't earn enough anyway. Instead they are giving mothers a certain amount of free childcare so that they will go back to work but what about the mothers who just want to be mothers? Why are they discriminated against?
I LOVE this man! ❤ Never heard of him before now. He really gets it. I've been saying it all for years. Family and home are our power as individuals and as society. And women are beautifully designed to nurture and amplify that power.❤
He is, hands down, the most underrated conservative commentator out there. I'll take it even further and say he's the most profound because he's actually read all the books.
He has a weekly podcast. It’s around 90 mins long and is out every Saturday. It’s very good and he talks about all of these issues and there it’s quite funny too.
I know of Andrew and have watched him several times. You guys did one heck of a first class job in this interview. There is much to learn or hear or dicuss with Andrew, and you guys allowed (as usual) your guest to touch on so many things. Superb. Super thank you, guys. 🙏
been rewatching the movies and i find it stunning how in the 5th book/movie, she perfectly layed out an example of the tyrannical state. the primary antagonist in that part of the story is - surprise surprise - a childess woman. she is a little dictator, wielding authority on behalf of the state, becoming megalomaniacal. she rushes to silence ANY dissent, and to gaslight the population into distrusting anyone who is telling the truth about voldemort. she perfectly laid out an example of the EXACT people that her OWN FANS became once she became public enemy number 1. and the hilarious irony is that they don't see that!
For those new to klavan, he is the GOAT and the quintessential answer to what conservative philosophy truly is and why its right. Not without his flaws but he's a regular 'must listen' (for both the left and right) and to this day speaks more truth than any pundit i've encountered. Edit: His son spencer is also incredible. The world would be a much better place if they were in everyones playlist.
I have enjoyed this conversation quite a lot. This is the type of conversation I used to have with friends in my teens and 20's (I am 50 years old now). Now, I find difficult to find people to have honest and deep discussion anymore.
I'm just a few years younger..and..i'll say the same thing.. What happened to conversation ? What happened to saying and defending what you believe in..? What happened to ppl that letting it slide is madness, and NOT the other way around??
Christianity here in Aus, like anywhere else, is a mix of those trying to follow Christ and those leveraging its appearance. I’m an internet rando but happy to help if u have questions in an Aussie context or are seeking a legit church.
@@stevecavanagh8033 Oh I go to a Baptist church - reading the Bible with a friend from there each week. In terms of leveraging Christianity I'm not sure I see much of that as we are a post-Christian country.
@@chernobylcoleslaw6698 Sydney. I mean that the more the hate rises against Christians, the more fakes it drives away. It enables people to see the Christ of the bible often buried beneath man-made obfuscation (robes, bells and smells). There aren't too many sparkly-jacketed tv evangelists in China :)
One of the best written female characters is Polly from the Peaky Blinders. She's not an irritating girlboss yet maintains a clear authority over her family and business. She's not weak but still feminine, emotional but not irrational. A mature, adult and powerful woman living in a time when women didn't have much political power.
Polly? The woman who throws tantrums and informed a predatory priest who molested *her kid that a murder was coming? If it wasn't for the brilliant Cillian Murphy the show would be nigh unwatchable. The writing and acting is pretty damn awful. Now "The Sopranos"? THAT is a masterclass in writing. *edited from a to her.
One of my favorites is Vanessa Ives from Penny Dreadful. The show went off the rails in the end (and I didn't even bother with the spinoff), but I always loved this description from the creator/writer of the show: "I purposely wanted a female protagonist -- that was the important thing, that my hero was going to be a woman, and a complicated woman. And she wasn't going to be my hero by masculinizing her, by giving her a gun. She was going to be a woman, and a woman in her era, yet be the hero of this piece. She's the strong guiding light around which all the moths gather."
Jane Austin wrote my favourite female character in “Persuasion”. The character of Anne Elliot is a strong female character but there is nothing masculine about her at all. The recent movie butchered the novel because they didn’t understand her.
I don't know, all I know for sure is I've been brought up and taught that pretty much most males could kill me. I have no doubt about that, however, I sure as he'll will make sure they remember me with every scar I leave them on my way out.
Amdrew Klavan has been a huge influence on my understanding of the arts and faith over the years. This man is a national treasure, and he must be protected!
i think Hermione Granger was generally nailed as a heroine in the books and movies. she's super intelligent and does all the reading, like any good studious girl always does in school (unlike the boys) and she is also the emotionally intelligent character who manages conflicts between other characters. she's able to handle herself, but she generally understands her limits and her role and she will let Harry take the lead when it comes to being a hero or warrior - even though she's capable. she's also the moral heart of the group and has the most empathy for others, especially non-human creatures and pets. she's never afraid to actually be a girl or woman, even though she might not be the most "girly" of girls. she's never trying to be a boy or a man, she is her own self
Wow! Impressive conversation. It's rare that I can simply sit back and listen to someone because their ideas are compelling and their ability to communicate them is exceptional.
BRILLIANT!!❤ I've listened to Andrew Klavan quite a bit, but never heard such a fine concise articulation of his insights, analysis and prognosis, with humour, balance and generosity! Very impressed! Great interview, guys!
Good point Andrew! “If you are afraid to die, how can you be a rebel.” Now that our country has become atheist, everyone cowers in the face of evil because this life is all people have. As a Christian I don’t fear death the way I did when I was an atheist. There are a lot of things worse than death.
@@meganbennett2144 why what is coming?? If there is a God then he will welcome Atheists with open arms as according to Christians he is all forgiving and if there isn’t then it is simply the end and nothing more which means you won’t know anything about it just going to sleep and never waking up. So nothing to fear, death is part of life it comes to us all.
@@hughkelly9073 Not really, once he's proven wrong, he finds a hypothetical world where he could have been right and suddenly he feels right again. I've never heard that pompous ass admit that he was wrong about anything.
Best DW host by far, all of em enjoyable but nothing beats his humour, nuance, depth and balance. Dont agree on all his stances but vast vast majority and he makes me think!
Andrew is by far the best of the Daily Wire crew, at least to me. He's the only one I feel like I could actually be friends with. Also, the background sound of the wind blowing leafs around, accompanied by the occasional bird chirp was fantastic. It really made this interview an auditory pleasure as well as an intellectual pleasure.
Andrew Klavan says there is no one to "take over" from the Boomers (my generation). He says that's what Lear was about: the king was dying, and there was "no one to take over." That's not true. Cordelia was fully able to take over; it was her very wisdom and Lear's ignorance of it that led to the tragedy. Someone was ready. They were ignored, rejected even. We need to find our Cordelias, and believe them.
Perhaps a better analogy would have been Succession - a brilliant but terrible man builds a dysfunctional and ultimately unsustainable company in his sociopathic image, and then laments that none on his broken children are "worthy" to take it over.
Im a 63 year old woman, my husband 71, still gets up at six am and does hard dirty work to provide for and advance our family, I know he'd die for us. I'm happy to keep our home clean, provide clean, dry clothes, delicious meals and affection. Im getting a good deal. Its working for us.
It's crazy that the woke talk about how everybody should be able to be who they are, and then they tell you who you should be and what identities aren't ok.🙄🙄🙄
Thank you. I know it's 10 months old but this was very fulfilling like soup for my soul. I'm glad I clicked on this, even though it started as an interest in thoughts about the movie industry.
Francis is right about movies nowadays. I was a movie addict in the 90's and 00's. I would rent at least a couple movies per week, and now months go by between movie rentals.
As a radio presenter I'd often ask callers what they did. I didn't add, '...for a living?' As that would be too presumptuous. Every single homemaker would say, 'Oh, I'm just a housewife'. I didn't let them get away with this self denegration. I'd always contradict their 'just' with, 'it's the most important job there is', but it would often fall on deaf ears. All women have been infected with this thought. The western cultural devaluation of motherhood is a catastrophic mind virus which was birthed in the brains of bored, intelligent, middle class women, who became envious of their husbands 130 years ago. Amid collapsing populations of the 21st century, who would think that such a tiny minority of people could have such a devastating effect on the world in general and on the West in particular?
Thank you for that treasure. A refreshing discussion with brilliant insights and some new points of view, at least for me. Thank you guys, you are one of the few channels wich are able to deliver deep discussions, ask difficult questions with respect and fun. Amazing guys, kind regards from Germany.
Why not have a feminist on the show explaining the importance of feminism in patriarchal societies instead of one man after the other convincing us a women without babies has no value?
I think atheism gets a bad rep in particular because atheists don't believe in a God, but the current day issues are basically about too many people not really believing in any tradition or cultural belief. And believing in a God and following religion has just been the most common cause that has kept humans going for centuries, and now it's becoming more and more rare so people are wasting time and fighting over stupid things.
@@AbhijeetMishra I'm an atheist myself and I think there are two tiers to atheism. There's the people who don't believe in god but still stick to the traditions of their country and are patriotic, which in a way holds things together. I'd put myself in that group. Then there's the people who don't believe in god but also want to tear down everything to do with their country and it's culture. It's those people who are causing a load of problems.
I was an atheist from age 15 to 35. You may yet get past your doubts. One day, I realized that I needed God and on that day He answered me. It's not as silly as we're led to believe by all the smartypantses. Read a bit of the Bible with some regularity and you may find that the wisdom it contains far, far outweighs the objections skeptics raise about it. Until you have made a thorough study of scripture, keep away from religious teachers: 90% of them are actually fools, just as the atheists claim.
It's been a while since I've listened to Andrew Klavan, and this has made me realize how much I've missed. Kudos to you guys for having him on the show.
I am reading Dostoevsky and he is absolutely hilarious - I really mean that! Some of his novels had me laughing hysterically while others have made me quite pensive. He has an unbelievable understanding of humans! Definitely read his books. Notes from the underground is basically a black comedy of sorts
"It was the Conservatives who were stultifying the conversation, it was liberals who were challenging all the orthodoxies" I think you can make the case now, that the Conservatives were right to do so. If they had won, the world would be a better place than it is now.
Nah, some things needed to change. We really didn't have free speech as we know it until the 70s, as there were vulgarity and public decency laws in the past. And what counted as vulgarity and public indecency was anything that the dominant culture didn't like. People were actually going to jail for making jokes, or performing music that weren't approved by the conservative Christians. There was a lot that needed to change, and so it did. People look on the past with rose tinted glasses, and they like to pretend that their side is always right, was always right, and will always be right. That is simply impossible for any human, let alone a large group of humans.
@@spracketskooch The vulgarity and indecency we have now is a good trade for the collapse of marriage and the grooming of children that we also have now? You're insane.
I find it very depressing that the only thing women have to offer is our wombs. Are we really so inferior to men in all other situations? Is motherhood all we are good for? And if society truly values the role of mother and home-maker then why don't we pay women for this most important job of all - since we live in a society that measures worth in money. The truth is men don't only value women for our ability to bear and raise children, they enjoy our company, they fall in love with us, they choose to spend their free time with us, we are their preferred companion in most cases and the one they confide in and can be vulnerable with. It is much more emotional than just biological. Most men would be miserable in a world without women even if they had beautiful android sex slaves instead.
You're way too touchy about this. Acknowledging the imperatives of nature only makes us stronger and wiser. It's ironic, but so predictable, that those who actually use women as disposable breeders in "surrogacy" are supported by progressive women who, at heart, share their profound misogyny.
"Let others do whatever they're going to do, let them work out their salvation with fear and trembling" I don't think you've ever been deeply betrayed by someone who was doing just that -- at least, no one you couldn't safely outlive.
@@SMacCuUladh And when the betrayal simply doesn't stop, but goes on and on, with new reminders every week, every day? That's when you realize why God made hell, and why it's a good, just, and righteous thing that some people are sent there.
Some of us are old enough to remember what it was like being in the world when the laws favoured men over women. Back then the fact that women create humans wasn’t considered a super power by too many men. In fact if women brought their complaints about abuse or neglect to their male ministers & male congregants they were ignored. That’s what men did when they had the power over women. Maybe if men had behaved like the men people like Andrew tell us Christian men are perhaps more women would have been happy with the domestic bliss he thinks we were living. Talk about rewriting history. I will fight until the day I die to not let these men fool people that the past was a happy place for women. Now isn’t either. There’s not enough respect or support for women who choose motherhood as their focus in life. I know, because I’m a mother & have met many mothers during my life. Women need someone stable, and a home to raise children in, and support to raise them as stable adults with sound ethical principles. I accept I’ve absorbed some principles from the culture I grew up in, & some of that had Christian roots, but I’ve read the Bible & it has some horrors in their too. Horrors that are used against people, including women, when men get the reins of legal power & decide to use them. No other western country is like the US with regard to religiosity & yet most of the crazy we’re all having to deal with was exported from there, so spare me the sanctimony of telling me if I don’t believe in your god I can’t have morals.
actually most if not all of the crazy came from Europe. The gender theory nonsense came from Europe and it was a German doctor who was the first to do trans surgery. The gender theory nonsense has all its recent roots in Europe and before that ancient Rome where Nero castrated a man, put him in a wedding dress, married him and proclaimed him Empress of Rome. All the lgbtq stuff was first legalized in Europe and then exported to Canada and the US. The US has rapidly become less Christian and so the nonsense is now more amplified but because its people tended to be more religious is why the craziness always started from Europe before eventually being pushed onto the US.
Were most women really wishing they could be down in the coal mines or on the battle front with men? From reading l gather that women of the past had a truly different outlook from modern women, who have a real blind spot re life in which there was no birth control and backbreaking physical work, which they have never experienced, was the rule.
This man reminds me of the way I grew up with my dad with good common spiritual sense, loves God and morality. The good ol days. He sees it the way it really is, not the crazy way they want this generation to think. Needs to be more men like him!