Andy Stanley Just Made a BIG Mistake 

I have seen a great church start to tow the government line about not opening its doors when many other biz were open, and just refuse to trust in Him and to boldly walk forward in faith. Then their mission changed to to another gov line of social justice and acceptance that many have privilege and need to focus on reaching out to certain races. How does that serve the entire mission to reach everyone? When it started to feel like the mission was to gain social credit versus Gods favor, I had to leave. I think we need to be diligent in our search for truth and godly teaching. God thru Covid taught me to focus my time on serving others. I am seeking opportunities to do the same. Let’s recognize false teaching but stay laser focused on His purpose for our lives.

Smart move ! I left my last church when the pastor said it’s time for your next great adventure, sounded too much like Joel for me !

His dad must be devastated 😢

SMET.. If you knew then what you’d come to know later, I’m sure you would’ve left five years ago.. also if you knew Scripture you would’ve known the error from the outset? The more of Scripture we know the less we err, the less of Scripture we know the more we err.

He is not a little off he is preaching heresy. Anyone grounded in the word can detect that. He didn’t start out that way. What about his wife? She is on that slippery path too???

We had to walk away from a church we had worked hard 9+ years in planting because our senior Pastor in a neighboring city decided to let his younger “cool” sons and young staff chose the direction and vision for the church. It was heartbreaking especially to the wonderful pastor who worked so hard to supervise our new beautiful building. We had such a great core of believers but as the senior Pastor, he got to make those decisions. After listening to a few messages to confirm this was happening and we were not going to study from OT anymore and listened to Andy Stanley’s book- inspired study by these young Pastors, it was plain as day they were trying to go woke with unbiblical leadership plus many other things. Back in the good early days, Our Senior Pastor had taught us well the Word and we could discern very quickly the evil direction the church was taking. So ironic and sad. Many left and they had to scramble as you all know the “core” believers finance the church itself. So glad “Answers” are shedding light on. I wouldn’t be surprised if A.S. Starts showing his true colors -rainbow- soon.

@@sbee985 I thought that very same thing about him. 🌈

@@ProverbsOne7 yes, Betsy! Because there is always a motive behind why a Pastor suddenly changes in the wrong direction. Get rid of the OT scripture against 🌈and then teach only “love”in his book Irresistible that the new staff used as their study- but they really didn’t give credit to the book for their teaching- they acted as if the Holy Spirit inspired it. The other things in my above stmt were rainbow flags hidden in pre-sermon videos, etc. The Lord is the same yesterday, today, and forever!

Unfortunately Andy Stanley father, Charlestown Lee, is ultimately responsible for the apostrophe of his own son. He open the door to that by burning counterfeit Bibles into the church instead of the King James, and threw the belief of one saved always saved. This is what led to Andy Stanley Zapata see. Perhaps other things as well

Chuck Missler on RU-vid still has the best Old Testament teaching.

I was trying to be tolerant but...no one minute tops😂

Sadly, that he will have so many followers yikes

Search the scripture daily to show yourself approved 🙏

So what's Andy's excuse, he grew up under Bible teaching?

@@muxion Sadly he doesn’t believe in what the Bible actually says.

Amen!

The Bible was written by humans. It was edited. Lots must have happened around that time, that didn’t make it in

Amen!

The exact center of the Bible.

AMEN

I agree. Let’s all unsubscribe from this channel and follow what God tells us personally!

Tim had a great teacher in Paul. Let's all get a teacher or a mentor, and let's learn.

I'd say he's leading them on the broad path

and going with them!

Andy also says when people say they can experience the presence of the Lord they’re probably just talking about how the music was good. That’s almost evil to deny Holy Spirit and how we can react to him. Notice I didn’t say that the Holy Spirit makes us react in any particular way, but just by being human vessels sometimes we do react be at with tears, trembling, joy, and sometimes we are overpowered or have instant life change. Music doesn’t need to play, we just need to PRAY.

I think he's leading them on the road to not being fruitful, to not having the fulfillment of God because they don't trust in him.

Andy Stanley isn't rejecting the Old Testament, he is just not interpreting it literally. By understanding the stories as metaphors, he allows for Science and Christianity to co-exist. God will not punish you for it. Repent, believe in Jesus, follow Christ’s teachings, pray, and you will attain heaven. None of this requires you to reject Science.

Amen 🙏

@@jinnantonix4570 The Congregation he was supposed to Pastor will decline significantly over time and that will demonstrate the error of his ways. Remember he is a Pastor, charged with feeding his sheep, NOT, a street preacher using, a technique to get the attention of unbelievers.

The world's use of the word "science" is a misnomer. "Science" just means 'knowledge". REAL science supports scripture.

Shame on Andy Stanley!

He needs to accept Christ as his Savior!!

@@eloina6728 The man has became a pagan

We observe direct evidence of the Big Bang occurring 13.8 billion years ago, the red shifting of distant galaxies and cosmic microwave background radiation. We can take a photograph of the Big Bang. This directly conflicts with the literal translation of Genesis, for which there is no evidence, it is a story in a book. Sorry, but in the end, Science DOES win. The Old Testament is a group of stories, many with deep metaphorical meaning, it should not be thrown out, but it is obviously NOT literally true.

Hope u don’t mind me replying. Sorry I don’t agree with you. I know lots of people leave church in the past, through being told, or made to feel they shouldn’t believe in scientific theories. I believe these people would be in church now, or at least have faith, if they had listened to Andy.

@@martinhoy1 Hi Martin, have you considered the reason those people left the church is because they are simply only wanting to hear preachers or teachings that condone their lifestyles and beliefs, regardless of what the bible says? 2 Timothy 4 says, "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." The big bang is absolutely a fable, it's 100% proven to be false science, and the very reason is exists is to discredit God in the eyes of society. But, perhaps you, and the others who left those churches, simply don't like what the bible says about this subject or that, as it undoubtedly makes them (you) uncomfortable, so why would you go to a place where it's taught, when you already know good and well you don't like it? I know plenty of people of who hate what the bible teaches, and therefor they'd never step foot in a church to begin with. They'd just assume live their lives the way they want to. Well, that's pretty much what Andy and many other modern preachers are saying it's ok to do, and to ignore what the book says about it. Honestly, I really wouldn't worry too much about those people who left their churches. They are likely adults with their own ability to reason, they've had plenty of time to research and think on it. They probably have their own bibles sitting somewhere on a shelf, that they can thumb through whenever they want. If you think they are somehow no longer able to be saved because they got turned off by their churches, who warn them about false teachings, then I'd say stop blaming the churches/pastors, and go tell those people they ought to open their bibles and really try to understand what it's saying to them, about them, and about consequences for turning their backs to the Lord. Remember how Jesus instructed his disciples in Matthew 10? "If the home is worthy, let your peace rest on it; but if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14 And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town. 15 Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town.…" Does that sound like Jesus was the least bit worried about people who were unwilling to accept his teachings? He never once told anyone to throw out the old scriptures either, the way Andy does repeatedly. Quite contrarily, he continually alluded to the scriptures, telling people they were always right from the very beginning, and that it was because people's hard hearts is the only reason God ever made any concessions, such as allowing for divorce. And for what it's worth I haven't attended any churches for a good many years myself, not because of the reasons you suggest, but quite the opposite. I hear many pastors ignoring what the bible says, just like Andy is doing, and blatantly leading people to turn their backs to the true God, in favor of man's ideology, and their own personal desire for what they believe God should be like. I also got tired of listening to preachers guilt tripping their congregations into showing up every week to put money in their coffers. Imo, people should rejoice in the presence of the Lord, and give freely because that's all God has ever done for them, and they shouldn't have to endure the shaming that goes on because their heads weren't counted the previous week during attendance. Jesus never once complained about a small crowd, and he never called anyone out that I'm aware who he didn't see at his last sermon, but he also wasn't desperate for people's money the way so many churches appear to be.

I’m going to raise your blood pressure then, cos I think he’s a great Preacher. It’s about time Christianity had someone like this, who cares about people, people who have left because of similar attitudes to the people on the panel; people who don’t like modern science. Andy encourages people to come back to church, who have left because of these attitudes, ie. there’s problems believing in the stand model of the universe, if your Christian etc. I know some who have left their faith unnecessarily. I think these people on the panel are bias, Pias, B & W Christians. I think Andy Stanley is a good Pastor

I’m going to raise your blood pressure then, cos I think he’s a great Preacher. It’s about time Christianity had someone like this, who cares about people, people who have left because of similar attitudes to the people on the panel; people who don’t like modern science. Andy encourages people to come back to church, who have left because of these attitudes, ie. there’s problems believing in the stand model of the universe, if your Christian etc. I know some who have left their faith unnecessarily. I think these people on the panel are bias, Pias, B & W Christians. I think Andy Stanley is a good Pastor

I’m going to raise your blood pressure then, cos I think he’s a great Preacher. It’s about time Christianity had someone like this, who cares about people, people who have left because of similar attitudes to the people on the panel; people who don’t like modern science. Andy encourages people to come back to church, who have left because of these attitudes, ie. there’s problems believing in the stand model of the universe, if your Christian etc. I know some who have left their faith unnecessarily. I think these people on the panel are bias, Pias, B & W Christians. I think Andy Stanley is a good Pastor

And give them $$$$$$🤢🤮🤔 🕎✡🕎🐟♾

Hahaha yeah! Prayer has never changed God’s perfect plan, anyway✝️

Well, we certainly don't want them (or anyone, for that matter) to perish in hell (Ezekiel 33:11), so we should try to change their minds and correct their understanding so they become true defenders of the faith, but if they don't change their ways when we try to correct them then they're doomed.

Right!

@@ryans8081 Please read John 3:16-18. Pay close attention to the last part of 18. Human beings have a choice and they have to trust. This man in the video is SO arrogant and prideful he doesn't believe he needs anyone to save him.

It was you could see it in his face but Charles Stanley still was a father to Andy and never attacked him. But Charle never gave up he would come back to the truth hewas taught.

@@dianebass3193 That's true, Diane. CS is a gentle and loving man, and faithful to the Word of God.

The father's distress may not be as deep you might expect.....Both father and son have profited well from their ministries. Look into their net worths. They are multimillionaires.

@@theelizabethan1 Thank you, but I only know how I personally have profited from Dr Charles Stanley's ministry. It has been a daily blessing to me and my family. His teaching is faithful to the Word of God. "By their fruits you shall know them."

@Fred the 47th Make sure your own motives are right before God here.

They are not mistakes, he does not have discernment , the very first thing the Holy Spirit gives one at the moment of the new birth, that is how we receive the revelation of Christ.

Love Charles Stanley's preaching but Andy fell far from the tree.

Charles Stanley gave Andy his pulpit.... Charles is wrong

@@raywite6665 so are you saying believers know everything at salvation , NOT , if that’s true all saved would be with the LORD immediately Everyone is a work in progress but I do doubt Andy Stanley’s salvation because he has went off course far too many times

@@sandralrho9455 - I agree with you 100%. No one knows everything they need to know the moment one professes Christ as their Savior. This is exactly the reason every single book of the New Testament contains warnings against false teaching. Jesus taught the Apostles in Matt 24 to beware of false Christ's. This is why we are to constantly read scriptures and follow the Holy Spirit. Some people think they have the Holy Spirit on a leash, personally telling them things every moment of the day. They're "gifted" like some little god. I'm gifted with discernment too but I need the Word daily. We all do. But obviously Andy is preaching another Gospel, another Christ than the Word gives us.

Oh my! I thought that was up to God. You are watching snipets chosen by this group "out of context". Andy is trying to minister to the unsaved who don't believe in the Bible. He is trying to "historically prove" the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ...and he does. Andy has never said that the Bible is inaccurate. But the people he is ministering do. He is trying to win them!

@@debbierhodes9905 I've heard enough of Andy's really stupid and unscriptural statements that make me and a LOT of other people question both his integrity and his salvation. He is not trying to "historically prove" the death and resurrection of Christ. If a person does not believe what scripture states about Christ you will not convince them by trying to prove historically that He existed or that he really did live, die, and rose again from the dead. There is no defending some of Andy's foolish and frankly quite evil statements. He should not be pastoring any church anywhere. I am not alone in my thinking. I'm not going to go through and pinpoint each of the things he's said and done just to satisfy you, but it's clear your thoughts are not based on the facts of what he has said and done. He's being called out by many because he deserves it. I don't know how much you know about things he's said and done, but if you agree with them you too are on the wrong side of this issue. Do you think it's ok for example, to have a rock band play Stairway to Heaven in a church service? If you do, I also question your salvation. That alone deserves being called out BIG TIME! Wicked as the devil himself.

This is a trend right now! There are a lot of preachers that are out to extract as much money from people as they can! They fly private jets and have extravagant lifestyles!

He received his first Bible with no instructions... obviously, he never listened to his dad's teaching! Andy is a piece of work!

nailed it!

There’s a lot of hirelings in our church pulpits these days which lends credence to my belief we’re living in the last days before the tribulation.

​@@chrish5791 these people have been there always, from the beginning, this isn't a sign of anything.

Yes cos JESUS & The Apostles did 🧐 mmm Or Baptised in THE 🕊HOLY SPIRIT🔥

@@P.H.888 Sounds like you're being snarky. The Bible didn't EXIST at the time of "Jesus and the Apostles". They accessed the scrolls in the Temple (no Bibles were visible in Andy's "church", so no one was reading them). Also, "Jesus and the Apostles" had vast portions of the Torah *memorized* (Jesus knew it ALL, of course). I *seriously* doubt Andy's congregation can state the same for themselves- just as I doubt many snarky commenters are able to do so.

T Drive, same here. Thus , after one visit I didn’t go back.

@tdrive398, this is heartbreaking to see so many people that can’t do without their cell phones for a couple hours on Sunday’s. Leave the phone in the car, grab your Bible and open Gods word!

his non-denominational church? ND churches have no accountability.

Thanks I’ll check it out

Hard to believe he's Charles Stanley's son.... he is just in it for money and attention...so sad

And yet, his church continues to grow. Tells you the doctrine is lacking in too many churches. Very sad and scary for the souls being lost.

Then pray for him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@keiarahjohnston9887 She literally just did! Didn’t you read her post?

@@keiarahjohnston9887 She literally just did! Didn’t you read her post?

He’s only behaving like a god. Gods tend to be narcissistic. It’s your fault for a god creating evil or a god loves unconditionally but will still watch you suffer. I think holiness has rubbed off on him. Hallelujah?

I kinda thought the same thing Maureen..... but a Narcissist cannot be helped. Maybe if they are just slightly narc., or just started acting that way? ... but most psychologists, ect. say they cannot be helped because they will never admit to being wrong.

I find it a struggle. When believers accept Evolution - Micro or Macro, can Biblical faith ever be right or true? Is there any question that without a Personal Creator whose word can be trusted , you are set free from the moorings that God is Sovereign ? God’s Sovereignty is ordained by His Act of creation. … He created , built , constructed personally a perfect Earth. How do you believe God is Omniscient or Sovereign if He did not Personally bring All the atoms together with His hands in the forms we know? If you follow Theistic Evolution, there is not a legal right to be called sinners, because sin would be endemic , and Grace would be useless. Back to the WORD that Created All creation. The earth is subject to the LAWs of the universe we know. God ordained those Laws . How do you ever come to grips with the Truth that sets you free from the curse of Man who rebelled against his Creator? It appears to me , many like Andy Stanley , are on the Romans 1 path. Romans 1:23 (ESV)” …man exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man.” Mortal man is the man of evolution . They have the intellect of gods. Gods are the Elites who have intellectually evolved past the book of God. It is a grievous stance he has taken. To advance evolution before the Everlasting WORD of God. May he find Mercy, May his eyes be opened!

@@kimberlyburruss7128 Small changes happen so I do believe in micro evolution. We along with animals do adapt and change over long periods of time due to our environment and survival of fittest. Weak bodies do even now die before reproduction. And I can see the changes. We are becoming taller, our teeth are coming more forward as we eat softer food that doesn’t need grinding, we have less hair on our bodies. But macro evolution, no way. I’m a creation believer all the way as nothing can only make nothing. God gives the life spark, the energy, and to humans the soul.

@@Dustandfuzz I understand Theistic evolution, but if micro evolution was started By God, He then is a distant maker or incompetent. Either way it argues that He is not Omniscient or All powerful, as Creation is subjected to the curse resulting in death. Micro-evolution is chaotic . Science confirms there is Design, not Chaos. History / Archeology confirms like the 8 ft plus Chinese NBA player, “Giants” are an ancient historical fact not merely a hormonal anomaly. To know God is to know our finite understanding. To know salvation is to know as the Apostle Paul states : “ Through Adam , all sinned.” So , through the lens of Theistic evolution , did an amoebae named Adam bear the Image of God?

100% correct.

Right, good word, "clouds they are without water" Jude 12. Describe him perfectly!

😅

And he has many satellite churches who are also being deceived.

Yes we are are seeing prophesy lived out in our time.☹️

How large is large? Its a big building or they have a large congregation?

Many Christians today want to hear new extra-Biblical doctrines to excite them.

You can do what I did. I went to two churches. After I had left them, I wrote letters to each church and put them on the windshields of both congregations. They preached the gospel, unto sanctification, asked them to pray about reading Revelation, and told them other things that I heard. What you see below is what I put except that very last line. Oct 26, 2020, I heard - Biden Harris July 31,2021 I heard - Stay in the Word. Aug 1, 2021, I heard - Do not fear what is coming. Aug 9, 2021 - Surge. Isolate. In 2019, I heard - famine and plague. Jan 26, 2021. Heard - War is coming Shawna. Better prepare. Prophesy. On around or on Mon Nov 21, 2022, I heard to read Psalm 37. In April 2019, I heard - Tell them I am coming soon. Later in the day I heard: There will be a great shaking. When I didn't tell a particular church about it, I got a dream where I was scared. I could hear myself saying: I'll tell them, I'll tell them, I'll tell them. Then I saw a person in the dark with well lit church windows behind him and another person dressed in white walking behind him and up some stairs. April 9, 2021, my vision went black for a quick moment, and then I saw in gold letters - Thus saith the Lord. About four hours later, April 10, during my sleep I heard - Prophet. Tell them I am coming soon. Maybe 3-5 min after that, at 1235 AM, our area had a 3.1 eq . On Aug 27 at about 313 AM, in my somewhat sleep, I heard - He’s bringing the rapture at the speed of light. From nineplanets I read a bit on the speed of light. Saw this: We know that nothing can surpass the speed of light, at least in theory. If you’d have the power to move with the speed of light, you could go around the Earth 7.5 times in one second. Dec 20, 2021. I had a dream of an eagle on a power line. I was standing below and looking up at the eagle as it sat there, calmly, looking around. Then it started to morph into a dragon. Then I was above that dragon looking down at it with its wings spread open. I could see the black veins in the right wing. I was in QFC one day and a song caught my attention. I believe the Lord wanted me to hear it. It's called - Get Closer by Seals and Crofts. (also look at lyrics). Supporting scripture - James 4 vs 8 and Zechariah 1 vs 3. Jesus is the best love ANYWHERE!

God made science possible so that is very true. To deny God would be to deny science.

science makes mistakes God never does.

Amen brother.

Jesus taught that the scriptures were certain "truth" and more permanent than "heaven and earth". Andy is calling Jesus a "liar" when he teaches this: "Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth." John 17:17 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." Matthew 24:35

Paul: Stanley maintains his position as pastor because church members want him as their pastor. Stanley will not reform himself. Why should he, when church members endorse him and his teaching? It is up to his church to remove him....and they don't want to. Church teachers did not corrupt us, our embracing carnal desires did that. And our complacency of silence and inaction.

@@sheilasmith7779 Very true. But probably most of the people coming to his "seeker friendly" church are unsaved and know little or nothing about the Bible. They trust him and think he is telling the truth, especially because his father is a famous pastor. His church is composed of thousands of happy "goats". There is no excuse for people who have been exposed to sound biblical truth in the past to put up with his false teaching. Such people have never been "born again" by the Spirit of God even if they grew up in "Christian homes" or churches that preach the Bible. Nothing could reform Andy except the "fear of God", which his confident, cavalier attitude shows he obviously does not have.

@@beaulin5628 I'd like to give some latitude to those who came to Christian beliefs through Christian " preachers." We Christians need to encourage Christians to read and study scripture....because if they do so they will recognize false teachings. Even then these Christians will struggle to leave their beloved tribal leader and fellow tribal members. It's family to them, that they would have to abandon.

He himself could someday see the light. He could lead many to the truth if he did. I can’t imagine the godly sorrow he would feel. The guilt would almost kill him. But then God could use him once he breaks him if Andy only kneels to the Lord.

I am so very sad and disappointed about Andy Stanley, his sermons are dangerous, he is not a Christian. His father Dr. Charles Stanley was, and will always be a true disciple of Christ and bring people to the Lord through his sermons. His sermons and books bless my life and guide me through the storm’s. Please listen to Dr. Charles Stanley for Christian guidance. God Bless!

Andy seems to have taken the bait…to be relevant to an increasingly fallen world, to attract their attention and gain some social credit. Many believe the Bible is fairy tales, so the son of a prominent pastor saying that half of the Bible can be ignored, is wildly attractive. That is exactly the path satan wants all of us to go down. Steer clear of false teaching brothers and sisters.

Definitely because if he had the Holy Spirit he would be preaching revelation from the old testament 🙏

Try the Spirits. The Holy Spirit illuminates our understanding of the word of God. From this revelation we prove all things and hold fast to that which is good. This is not good Andy. This is another christ, gospel and spirit.

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

How'd you come to this concludion? How do you know what he believes?

I have seen just as much ....if not more Hippocrates and destruction in small churches ( especially in the south) as in the mega Churches..don't be deceived..this is church leadership problem not the size of a church issue..legalism is just as toxic

Andy has said Jesus never said he was God. He doesn't seem to know scripture.

You've hit tge nail on the head. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Stanley and his blind sheep end up in the one world religion embracing all 'faiths' (false religions).

@@teresamacey4012 Oh my goodness, he actually said that?!

Yes it's part of deconstruction movement that jettisons any part of scripture that disagrees with their own thoughts of how they think God should be like rather than God's thoughts of and about himself to men codified in Scripture. P.s. Just a way of creating their own image of God.

A better question is, “what sort of people support this heretic”. I lived not far from this “church” and it’s a very large building. Can’t bring myself to call it a church.

The type that makes science a false god.

Reprobate.

O "Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:" 1 Timothy 6:20

Gary, I am not sure. Charles Stanley believes once saved always saved. He believes that you only lose your reward when you no longer walk with the Lord.

@@judyswiderski2682 Yes and that’s a terrible doctrine too. The bible has many warnings on falling away and we are to endure and many more.

If a kings seal was removed the one who did it was killed by the king

@@fredthe47th I understand he tried to do so but since his wife is the one who would not do things in a biblical way, Dr Stanleys church persuaded him to stay on. He had their support.

@@teresamacey4012 How about the story that before her hysterectomy, Anna Stanley implored her husband to skip his scheduled "In Touch" cruise to be by her side, and her request was rejected. (With his connections in evangelical circles, could not Dr. Stanley have recruited another Bible teacher to fill in as guest Speaker/Teacher for him?)

Dr Stanley is as biblical as you can get! I’ve listened to him for years

Exactly true, it was Dr Stanley’s wife who had caused the problem, Dr Stanley was ready to do what would be expected in a such a situation BUT the church was behind Dr Stanley and asked him to stay. He was a man of truth and a true man of God till the end.

@@beverlytrejo1459 not the way I remember it. The church was sharply divided about it. Close to 50/50. And, he didn't have to be persuaded.

Hard to believe he was raised by a godly father🙏🏻😇

Praying he is stopped.

People have been making up new religions since the dawn of time. Why is this a surprise?

@@offthefront7537 It’s not, it’s hurtful and the only surprising thing is because CS is his father. But even that is biblical about family not in agreement.

@@Dustandfuzz Is there anything that is not biblical?

I glad religion never makes mistakes-except for the ones he’s making. Mistakes are for the unsaved!

And they will have to account to God for teaching a different Jesus…….to deceive others……

Exactly what I was thinking. Andy’s new teaching on homosexuality is beyond reprobate.

Thank you so much for saying that we have to be discerning and listening to what is being taught no matter who is teaching or how big their church is or who they are! We just left a church because we don’t agree with certain things. We aren’t causing division. We aren’t gossiping. We took our stance. We just can’t agree. So it’s best we leave. But you get responses like; “Well, we have different perceptions.” Well… I don’t care about ‘perceptions’ I care about what is Truth! There are a lot of doctrines coming out. We have a lot of stuff being thrown at us and we HAVE to be listening and listening closely. Then you get the whole …”Don’t touch God’s anointed.” The word of God clearly tells us to test all things. It warns us of false prophets. But yet when we stand up and take a stand on something… or question something… we are ‘out of line. ‘ On top of it … we have not tried to destroy a church or spread gossip … or even run to social media saying stuff. We quietly take a stand and feel we need to move on and it’s just … how defensive people can get. We live in very dangerous times. I just will not grab hold of every wind and wave of doctrine or new ‘fads’ that blow through the church. The scripture I keep hearing in my heart is in regards to being on guard as to how satan deceived Eve… and we need to return to our simple devotion to Christ. Satan wants to complicate doctrine. The gospel is simple. Our devotion and worship is simple. I will not allow myself to be swept up into all these ‘new prophetic concepts’ and ‘new interpretations to give me deeper revelation.’ Simple devotion to Christ. From day one in the garden satan started playing his game to bring confusion; “Did God really say?”

Yes, thank you for reminding us the words of Jesus as He walked on the road to Emmaus in Luke 24: 25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?” 27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself. Jesus quoted :”it is written” many times directing us to the Old Testament! 📖💫👏🏻

Yes, and pride goeth before a fall. I really hate that he is leading people away from the truth of the bible. Those poor sheep follow him. Thankfully some know and have left his building.

@Fred the 47th It sounds as though some personal bone to pick with some people on petty things of life may at times get in the way of acknowledging the overall good followers of the word of the lord impart to those who are willing to receive it. I am sure that whatever acrimony some may hold it is always the perfect time to forgive. Remember there are no sinless people. We have all been there at some time in our lives . Life is very short And now is time to forgive as our Lord is forgiving us . God loves you.

Actually, Andy left Dr. Charles Stanley's church when Dr. Stanley & his wife divorced because Andy felt his dad should've stepped down from the ministry because of the divorce. But Dr. Stanley wouldn't do that. I used to attend Dr. Stanley's church & they would discuss that openly with ppl that were considering becoming members of First Baptist Atlanta.

@@lindahayes3003 … I see, well I have been recently learning about that verse Paul wrote regarding leaders needing to be a ONE woman man, and it would appear that Dr. Stanley still has only had one wife. He has not remarried, and I have heard him speak about that actually as being a criteria of his church to stay in office. I would agree with that, but the Bible does not say that you must step down if you are divorced. It just says you must be a ONE woman man. I respect Dr. Stanley and I know that he stands righteous before God through the blood of Jesus Christ. Moreover, I believe, and although, I do not have proof to back it up, I believe that Andy Stanley was simply using that as an excuse to take over the church. I’m glad he did not win.

Did his father ever corrected him publicly and rejected his son's theology ? I'm just asking because I don't know the father's stand really

The high priest Eli didn’t correct his son’s and we know of the outcome of that tragic event.

Error works as follows: the more one knows the Scriptures the less one errs, and vice versa..

Why do you believe he despises God?

@@SavedbyGraceAlone1962 Over the years he has increasingly undermined both the Scriptures and Christ in his sermons and interviews. For example, his recent series on who gets to Heaven was replete with phrases undermining Christ's diety with comments like " ...IF you believe Jesus was telling the truth, and I'm not saying he is." There are too many of these to count, not to mention the many "the Bible tells me so is not an explanation" type comments. I can only come to the conclusion that he wishes to undermine Christ and the scriptures and someone who does that hates God.

@@lauramckinney9896 it seems to me that's true,and he's trying to get "numbers",to increase the size of congregation. For teaching the true Word of God,and telling people they have to walk the straight and narrow,he couldn't get as many crowds. Like the ones teaching "feel good"messages, to soothe their itching ears and conscience. And I wonder if down deep he really resented his Dad and his teaching, almost hating God,not believing in Jesus.

Andy will never b the man Christian his dad is.Jealousy shows its ugly side.pray andy will get convicted of false teeaching and really get saved .God still in control🙏🙏🙏for andy

So sorry to hear this.

Time to leave.

RUN from that church!!!

I just started Starting Point at my church. They showed the first video with Andy (I didn't know who he was until this AIG video). We've been going to this church for a few years and my wife was baptized here after leaving Buddhism. I don't know what to do, my wife loves this church and just shared her testimonial with the congregation and our time here has been great.

@@555atU What to do? Do you know who is choosing Andy's videos to introduce the new believers to the ways of God in your church? Bring them your concerns in a loving, non-accusatory way, and see what kind of response you get. Show them a video like this one, and ask them to justify continuing to use Andy Stanley's materials when so many have revealed his off-base theology. Same thing happened with Rob Bell and his videos 15 years ago. Look where he is today, and it's clear those who warned about the slippery slope he was on were correct.

​@4Runner So God's love has limitations. God's love doesn't include Andy Stanley. One question. What did you do to merit God's love?

Is it really a Holy "Ghost"? Most people don't believe in ghosts and prefer Holy Spirit.

@@SavedbyGraceAlone1962 when I grew up everybody said Holy Ghost. It is after all , His Spirit living in us. People can't wrap their minds around that until they are filled with His Spirit. It is His Spirit that teaches us the truth in all things. Ask the Lord He will show you. He said He would not withhold His Spirit from anyone who asked.

@@sharonlecour808 Agreed, it's his Spirit, not his Ghost.

@@SavedbyGraceAlone1962 Either works.

@@SavedbyGraceAlone1962 Centuries ago when the Scriptures were being translated into English, "ghost" and "spirit" were used interchangeably. Languages and word nuances evolve over time......A current example is the word:. "gay."

There is sad truth in this.

Andy is a false teacher. Confession from his lips is proof.

YT search Andy Stanley Aftermath. It is a three part series.