Angel Reese Ahead of Caitlin Clark for WNBA Rookie of the Year?? 

There are over 400 double doubles per year in the WNBA. There have been 31 triple doubles in 28 years

Caitlin Clark is the first rookie in WNBA history to record 350 PTS • 100 REB • 150 AST. AND a Triple Double

They will do their best to promote the 30 game double double streak and ignore that Clark will finish ahead of Reese in literally every other statistic that isn't rebounds.

So, did she have this opinion last year with Aliyah Boston? They had fewer wins and was no where close to where they are today! Great arguments against the stupidity that the ESPN media is putting out there!

monica’s take was mcnuts

What a bunch of bs. Bias isn’t even the word for this. CC’s team was the worst and just beat the best. What she’s done for her team alone is nothing short of magical. She’s a prodigy and phenomenon. She’s transforming the WMBA and increasing its visibility by massive percentages. She’s breaking rookie and regular records. Sports are not politics, but this is clearly a hive mind immune response to the fact that she is blowing the WNBA up and the vets are JEALOUS. So much so that they refuse to put her on the Olympic team. The pettiness is real. Women snapping at the hand that feeds them like it’s a unwanted growth. Sad to see tribalism over objectivity.

Double double with points and rebound,, what is the league season record so far? There are 129 double doubles with points and assists. What about triple doubles record? There are only 3 recorded triple doubles this season and 1 of which is made by Caitlin Clark. Speaking of double doubles with points and ASSISTS? There are 19 recorded so far this season and 4 of which was made by Caitlin Clark. I think the debate as to who is the ROTY is a no-brainer. You have highlighted the important aspects of Caitlin Clark, specially she is performing her amazing stats while being face-guarded and double/triple teamed. I believe the more relevant discussion should be whether Caitlin Clark is now a contender for the MVP.

Caitlin Clark for ROTY!!!

Shes the only player in the league double teamed every game if not tripple teamed. Exept against phoenix cause they thought she wasnt up to it but she was with a W.

This lady AR is NOT defended in anyway, some players allow her to score easily with no defense, but you see 2 or 3 players at the same time defending CC, there is something fishy here.

There have been over 4,100 double doubles in WNBA history. There have been only 35 triple doubles in WNBA history. Do I need to say more?

100% AGREE WITH YOUR TAKE ON THIS. I hope the media is listening to your take. It is chaos right now and the media loves controversy. For me, CC is the ROTY.

Frist Rookie triple Double. Fastest Rookie WNBA player to record 300 career points, 150 rebounds and 150 steals. ( i can't see Reese Double-double🤣CC more blocks and Assist than Reese 🤣) No player in WNBA history has averaged those numbers (16/7/5) in a season, and Clark is achieving this as a rookie. Caitlin Clark now stands alone as the rookie with the most point-assist double-doubles in WNBA history - surpassing all-time great basketball superstar Sue Bird. With just 22 games played. She can fill your empty 20k arena's too. 🤣

Rachel totally owns McNutt's silly logic. Silly espn & their narratives. Smh on Skip's logic as well.

CC averages 6 Turnovers a game. That's about 1 Turnover for every 10 minutes. Reese doesn't even handle the ball and she gets almost 3 Turnovers a game. Angel almost had a triple-double against Seattle, she only needed 10 more assists. CC is ROTY.

Caitlin Clark is the total package, angel Reese is a far second!🥴

Caitlin Clark is a play maker, angel Reese is just waiting for the ball to get to her! Duh!🥴

It actually reminds me of Lonzo's beginning where the media wanted him to fail and constantly tried to tear him down

The Sky add Reece, Cardoso, and Carter and are currently on pace to finish worse than last season.

Btw Clark’s specialty is passing not 3s shooting. She’s more like female Nash than Curry. But she actually is Nash/Curry type.

CC was a lock for ROTY as soon as she was drafted. Much like Wemby.

It's Caitlin Clark. Stop playing.

She is having a historic season that you are not being told about. Catilin is averaging 16, 6, 7+.. Points, rebound, assists per game. No rookie has ever average that for a season ever in the WNBA. Its so good you have to go to the NBA for a comp. Magic Johnson and Oscar Roberson are the only rookies ever to do that and nobody in the WNBA. As a matter of fact, I don't think and 2nd or 3rd year player in the WNBA has ever done that. But we dont know how historic this season is because of the woke azz media and people like mcstuid, baynut dont know how to do their job. How is a layman like myself able to compile and honest, objective analysis and these clowns cant.

CC is the ROTY, being the Court General is so hard, bringing the ball down, passing, scoring, and being face guarded all the time, rebounding is a plus, CC is an all around player which no rookie have done on their first 22 games in WNBA. With just 22 games, you can definitely see how CC deserve to be the ROTY, she made an impact to her team within 22 games, the worst team before CC, look at them now, the team beat the no.1 team.

CC is the rookie of the year. Its one thing to break records but to create records is another level.

CC's game is now multitasking unlike what it was in college. She's more of a facilitator, yet integrating her college game into the professional level, which means was more teamball. Let's not forget how much she has to do, when taking on the defense almost full court. Day in day out, her game is more of a challenge, than what Angel Reese has to compete with. It's all there in the statistics.

Last I checked ROY is given out after the season is over. Be real, the Fever looked like a JV team the first 10 games or so but have improved vastly over the past month and coincidentally so have CC’s numbers. I have a feeling the Angel v CC debate will look quite different in the 2nd half. Talk to me when the regular season is over

AR is a post player just waiting for the ball to get in her hand. CC is an all around player-assists, rebounds, logo 3s shots. AR is not doubled or tripled team while CC is being guarded from the other side of the court. Yet still she was able to achieve a triple-double against a #1 team in the W (#22 jersey, born 01-22-02, 22nd game, July 22, 2024). Who is the better and fun to watch player?

"Since when has the Rookie of the Year been decided by how well a team has done"...well I'll point you to #4 pick Scottie Barnes and #1 pick Cade Cunningham. Both had very similar stat lines but Scottie massively improved Toronto record while the Pistons were still a bottom team. Wemby literally had no equal. On the side however yes Caitlin is leading the league in points created..she also has played 1-3 more games than any other team.

Aint no way ANYONE in sports media is going to allow CC to be ROY, no way, no how! CC could triple dub every single remaining game and she aint going to win it!

Screw the wnba i only watch fever play fowllowing CC.

Pts/assts DDs (29 total ytd in wnba) are four times harder to achieve than pts/rebounds DDs(129 ytd).

AR rebounds her own missed lay ups, compared that to her defensive rebounds. Most of her Double Doubles are rebounds.

When you keep getting your own rebound, shouldn’t you only get 1-pt for making the shot?

Rachel Thank You! It’s rare for the media to give an unbiased review lately. They are both doing great. However, numbers don’t lie. I hope the ROTY ends up being awarded based on basketball and not favoritism.

Wemby the NBA ROTY also had the 3rd most turnovers in the NBA this season, and the most turnovers of ANY rookie! And Wemby is a center and not a high volume passer/PG.

Finally somebody who knows what she is talking about ..........love that you recognize the nuances (shows you played at a high level)

They trying to steal this award from CC. It ain’t right. This young lady is the best believe that.

Oh, and Ionescu recorded her first triple double just 6 games into her career. But no one wants to talk about that.

Reese braked a record that was there from Parker, but CC make a new record that no rookie was able to make that a big difference🤣🤣🤣

No matter what the WNBA and ESPN says the ROTY will be determined from Vegas. That's how it's always determined if be it mvp etc... As of now Caitlin is -700 to win ROTY and Reese is only +350.

If you're to go off the standings, Reese and the Chicago Sky are at 8th currently, the same as last year. Clark and the Fever are at 7th, 10th last year. Clark has moved the needle, Reese has not.

Same bullshit the pundits have been saying from day one. The CC hate is real. Reece is a very good player. Clark is a generational talent who makes her teammates better. No contest.

I get your having to ask the question, but the answer is clear and it isn’t really even close. You’ve got it right looking at the points scored and assisted on. Reese doesn’t have the ball in her hands a fraction of the time that Clark does - a true point guard who touches the ball first whether off the rebound or out of the net.

This discussion of Angel over Caitlin for ROTY is just like the people talking up Chet Holmgren half way through the season vs Wemby. It was simply to create parity and close horserace that just doesn't match up to the eye test in reality. Caitlin Clark is rewriting the entire WNBA narrative, filling arenas, and bringing new eyes to the league. Fortunately Wemby stepped it up the latter half of the season and left the rest of the rookies in his dust. Since the Olympic snub, Caitin has been putting up even better numbers than earlier in the season and her efforts to include her teammates have started paying off and hopefully this ROTY race will be more blatantly obvious by the end of the season to all of the voters.

Finally someone that speaks sense against all this nonsense about Reece being ROTY

Monica McNutt is making a case of which of the two rookies impact their team the most. How do you measure 2 rookies who play totally different positions on the court, but statistically are killing it in their respective role? Clearly you would have to go with the player impactful enough to get their team to the playoffs. This isn't rocket science guys. You guys are totally basing your opinions on popularity, but Rookie of the year isn't about popularity. Caitlin could easily win ROTY all she has to do is keep doing what she is doing, WIN games!

the pundits are not watching the games. Skipp has never watched a game in his life

The real reason why the WNBA authorities excluded CC from the national team and serious consideration as the Rookie of the Year is because by doing so, they would be acknowledging their own incompetence and ineffectiveness in letting the WNBA be what it was before CC came along - a game league losing $10M a year, which almost nobody watches with very little national awareness. Almost single-handedly CC has increased awareness of the WNBA in the US and abroad, increased attendance and income to unprecedented levels, and brought the quality of WNBA to its highest level than ever before. That is why these pathetic WNBA authorities continuously snub CC, do not punish hard fouls appropriately and show extremen unawareness of the Caitlin Clark effect on the WNBA. Shame on them! They should be replaced with more responsive and responsible personalities.

Why is no one (media) talking about the actual criteria that goes into making the Rookie of the year selection? I for one would appreciate an unbiased, unemotional opinion. Thank you.

How can you say people are moving the goal post and make excuses for Caitlin's bad play in the same conversation. Isn't that "moving" the goal post?

It's tiring seeing ppl trying to use a double double stat for giving her the roty. Like let's be forreal. It's just annoying. Everyone sees what is going on. Ppl don't want to admit it though.

Ranking - Points - CC=16th / AR=22, Field Goals - AR=25th / CC=26th, 3 Pointers - CC = 6th / AR= 92nd, Free Throws - AR=6th / CC=11th, Rebounds - AR=1st / CC= 19th, Assist - CC=2nd / AR=54, Steals - AR=12th / CC=17th, Blocks - CC=16th / AR=42nd, Turnovers (bad=1, good=100, also hurts other stats) CC=1st / AR=76th....... so if CC didn't have a high TO rate , she would be beating AR, but the high TO makes it a toss up (some stats are weighted more heavily than others, Rebounds, Assist, Points and Turnovers have the heaviest weight)

The real issue is just like the rest of the league, the people covering the WNBA were also not being watched and so I think they got used to being able to say whatever dumb thing and no one cared. Funny. I've heard Skip say the same thing about Clark that every other commentator said; "she's known for her 3's but her skill is in passing" and then promptly forgets it.

Before even watching the video, we all know whom the media will pick because of the times in which we live.

Reese vs Sonic’s no one guarded her until she got her double double 🤩

Watch both of them play for forty minutes and it’s ridiculous to think that Reese deserves roty over CC

This isnt even a conversation, geez,its plain as day that Caitlin Clark is a shoe in for ROTY ,fullstop

Reese needs CC to be relevant. CC needs no one. Also, the media is dramatically over hyping double doubles... Most of CC turnovers come from her teammates not having hands. A lot of Reese's rebounds are from missed layups...... Reeses FG% is garbage for her position.. It's not even close

That’s MVP talk yo. White shesus!!! #1 on the scouting report!!! #ROTY#MVP#CC# WHITESHESUS!!!

In Reese's 13 straight double-doubles her team is 5-8 -- in Clark's triple-double, and all of her near triple doubles, her team is undefeated. One of them is stat padding, and the other is making her teammates better. What's the definition of a great player again? Oh, right. Someone who makes their teammates better. Can you be rookie of the year, if you aren't a great player?

If Angel had true point guards on her team she’d be averaging 20 something points.

Thank you for keeping it real and not jumping on the narrative. Your take is realistic and professional. I appreciate your input.

typical rage bait...

Someone get this girl on the media! Straight facts!!!

I completely agree that Angel should be ROTY... Everyone forgets about CC turnovers...

❤CC22🐐 MVP

Reese is really good but no CC. 70% of those turnovers to her teammates were touched by 1 hand or 2 hands. If you can touch that ball you better catch and shoot. I watched CC in the NCCA tournament and she loves to run and gun if she gets doubled teamed during a game she will feed it. Head coach should have found that out in her film. Also, her block shot Stat is better than Reese. Stats just don't lie. Her coach even said after liberty game her players are now catching up with the way she passes up court. I've never watched that much WNBA but I'm surprised Nike and the NBA Commisioner has not walked in that WNBA COMMISIONER and told her enough crap on her treatment or go find your own money. As of now for next year there ADV Marketing funds are up to 240 million for next year revenue. That's 4 times than ever and it's not because of Reese. Never seen so much hate to young lady that's helping Vet players possibly getting more funds but they could be the next Bud Light and loose everything ADV TV funds and Nike, Wilson, do not pay this money out for the fun of it. IMO.

The media wants to create a Magic vs Bird in the WNBA. But Angel Reese is no Magic. Not even close.

Caitlin Clark is the Rookie of the Year … for me …

CC: WNBA History: First rookie to record a triple-double...EVER WNBA History: Fastest rookie to record 350+ points, 150+ assists and 120+ rebounds (while she's being double and triple teamed the entire game every game) and AR: how many of her double double stats have relied on her missing her own layups, getting her own rebound, and putting it back in ??? Its like statistical double dipping ....................

Many of CC's give aways have been passes to her teammates they couldn't handle. Now they are. Amazing how none of these media don't understand getting your own rebound is not very impressive. The only stat that Reese has over CC is rebounds, that's it.

turnovers?? Are you kidding me sue bird won many awards and yet she's no.1 in her time in turnovers whahhaha lets keep it real CC is ROTY 2024.

2 years from now, the league will have been remade in Caitlin's image, the NBA grift era will be over and people will have forgotten that Reese was a thing

If she’s going off the standings Indiana is ahead so what will,she say now ? 😐

Anyone who has listened to the way CC speaks about her outlook in life would probably believe that CC is just not all that interested in being roty. She's said time and time again that her main focus in life right now is playing the very best bball she can, and improving her team's playing. Period. I also feel that she will be the first person to congratulate whoever DOES eventually wins roty. I wish I felt as confident that Angel would do the same. But who knows? Caitlin may or may not deserve the award, but I don't think that she cares one way or the other.

It's so refreshing to hear an intelligent assessment of the facts, dismissing the inane suggestion by McNutt that ROTY should be based on team standing. The level of absurdity inherent in that statement is baffling. Most of us would agree that Skip Bayless is an absolute embarrassment as a sports commentator, so he has very little credibility with sports fans. Saying that Reese deserves to be in contention for ROTY, over CC, is as spectacularly stupid as putting Dennis Rodman in the same category as Michael Jordan - how insane is that!!

I pick CC for ROTY

We don't care about no dam double double. Does she even play defense? where are her block shots ? CC is a way better player. And doing much better, that's my ROTY.

Never understood why media will never bring up those numbers and the facts but will glaze on the double double 😂😂😂.ESPN is mediocre if it was Charles Barkley he would told straight CC and will bring up the facts of the list what she accomplished

This race isn't heating up... As you said the media made up their mind a long time ago that Reese will get it.

As of now there have been 129 point/ rebound double doubles. 19 assist/points double double in which Clark has 4 in her last 5 games. Then there have been 3 triple doubles. Clark has a much better effective shooting percentage by almost 10 percentage points. Clark is the best point guard in the league. Reese is not the best power forward in the league. The fever are much better this year while the sky is worse. Clark is leading in the points scored and assisted. It really isn’t close. Clark gets guarded harder than anyone in the history of the wnba. Clark is much better. It’s not really that close. I see both Reese and Clark having a better second half of the season. I think the Fever will end with a considerable better record than the Sky. The Fever are going to be a real problem for other teams very soon.

It's clear and obvious that Caitlin Clark should be rookie of the year! Team standings have nothing to do with it, but individual performance does! Clark does it all, scoring, passing, assists, play making, you name it! Reese for the most part just scores layups and many times she even misses those, and she grabs rebounds because her place is in the low post where you get most of those rebounds and double doubles just aren't that impressive but since the league's very beginning, no rookie has had a triple double until Caitlin Clark came along! Who should be crowned rookie of the year? The answer is a no brainer!

You're a refreshing voice of reason, Rachel.

Well, the Fever are ahead of the Sky now . Does that mean Clark is ahead of Reese now ?

Angel Reese is the Rookie of the year. Even from your Wembanyama analysis.

Can people stop lying on the fever. They was not the worst team in the league last year. The (Mercury) was. The Storm was the 2nd worst then the Fever came in a cool 3rd worst team.

This story is already written. With only 60 sportswriters having a vote and them being part of the media in general, there is zero doubt that Angel Reese will win ROTY, no matter how well CC does in the 2nd half of the season or even if they win a few playoff games. And when this happens, the attendance and viewership will be right back to where it was last year.

Why are people even discussing this non event? Caitlin is the obvious choice. Player Of The Year last season? Wilson. Plays with how many Olympians? Skip, wake up. She runs the team. She is a great assisted. Great free throw shooter. Who had more blocks? Whats her name or Caitlin? Caitlin. Since the brutal 11 games in 19 days, Indiana has a winning record. Truthfully , these people need to go away

I would listen to Rachel read the entire phone book...

I love how they say CC turns the ball over. Well maybe if her teammates could catch the ball. I could like Angel Reese if she didn't act like a damn thug. It just makes her unwatchable for me.

Angel hasn't had a good season. Watch the games. Pay attention to what is happening.

Reese can get the ROTY. Clark is getting all the endorsement deals! $$$$$ baby! 8 figure deal with Nike, deals with wilson, gatorade, Panini, etc.😂🤣😂😂 She’s laughing all the way to the bank!😁

There is no debate for anyone who has 2 neurons to rub together.

The offensive rebound narrative has been debunked

Thank you, finally, somebody sees Caitlin 's overall game is far above Reese

Love your view points, make sense!

Yeah..... but NOBODY is going to the games to see Angel...... Caitlin on the other hand..... is filling the arenas.

This lady is clearly bias, all she does is make excuses for CC and criticize AR.

She gave the same reasoning for pick Caitlin as rookie of the year 3 weeks ago. Nobody complained about it