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Angels of Babylon | Fantastical Stories in Quranic Commentaries 3 | Dr. Shabir Ally 

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Quran 2:102 mentions the angels of Babylon, Harut and Marut. The Quran says the people were misled by satans and angels. The Quran does not go into detail about what the angels taught, but says the angels warned the people beforehand that they should not fall into the temptation to disbelieve. The famous commentaries of the Quran on the other hand include fantastical stories about how and why the angels came down, and they describe how the angels were tempted by a beautiful woman (descibed as Venus), committed terrible sins and were imprisoned in Babylon. These stories contradict Islamic teachings about angels, who are supposed to be obedient and faithful to God. Dr. Shabir Ally says these stories may have been conglomerations of stories from other traditions which were given an Islamic flavour.
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@walkingwith_dinosaurs
@walkingwith_dinosaurs Год назад
I pray Dr. Shabir will one day publish his commentary/translation of the Quran 🤲
@raushanlatiff96
@raushanlatiff96 Год назад
I hope that he has been secretly working on it for years
@amandoktorcanimkuzumdoktor5193
🌹1.Don't insult (Q49:11) 🌹2.Speak kindly (Q2:83) 🌹3.Speak gently (Q17:28) 🌹4.Don't backbite (Q49:12) 🌹5.Speak the Truth (Q3:17) 🌹6.Keep your oaths (Q5:89) 🌹7.Do not be arrogant (Q7:13) 🌹8.Restrain your anger (Q3:134) 🌹9.Think good of others (Q24:12) 🌹10.Don't be rude to parents (Q17:23) 🌹11.Don't make fun of others (Q49:11) 🌹12.Turn away from ill speech (Q23:3) 🌹13.Walk in a humble manner (Q25:63) 🌹14.Keep your trusts & promises (Q23:8) 🌹15.Don't claim yourself to be pure (Q53:32) 🌹16.Do not even approach adultery (Q17:32) 🌹17.Don't call others with bad names (Q49:11) 🌹18.Remember Allah and be thankful (Q2:152) 🌹19.Speak nicely, even to the ignorant (Q25:63) 🌹20.Don't ask for repayment for favours (Q76:9) 🌹21.If enemy wants peace, then accept it (Q8:61) 🌹22.Salute the Prophet (saw), do salawats (Q33:56) 🌹23.Call ˹all˺ people to the pilgrimage (hajj) (Q22:27) 🌹24.Give charity /spend (in the way of Allah) (Q2:254) 🌹25.Don’t criticize small donation/charity of others (9:79) 🌹26.Be mindful of Allah and be with the truthful (Q9:119) 🌹27.Do not consume one another’s wealth unjustly (Q2:188) 🌹28.Stand firm for justice even if it is against yourselves(Q4:135) 🌹29.Don't remind others of the favours you done to them (Q2:264) 🌹30.Return a greeting in a better manner or at least the same (Q4:86) 🌹31.Do not be excessive, extravagant, don't spend wastefully (Q17:26) 🌹32 Life of this world is no more than the delusion of enjoyment (Q3:185) 🌹33.Performing prayers (salat/namaz) is a duty on the believers (Q4:103) 🌹34.Turn away from trash talk like gossip, slandering people etc.(Q28:55) 🌹35.Fasting is prescribed for you-as it was for those before you (Q2:183) 🌹36.Don't bribe authorities in order to devour a portion of others’ property(Q2:188) 🌹37.Establish prayer (salat/namaz) and donate from what was provided (Q8:3) 🌹38.Establish prayer (salat/namaz) and donate from what was provided (Q14:31) 🌹39.Establish prayer (salat/namaz), pay alms-tax,1 and bow down with those who bow down (Q2:43) 🌹🕋40.Know that this worldly life is no more than play, amusement, luxury, mutual boasting, and competition in wealth and children.(Q57:20)🕋🌹 ✍Explanation: 💚Please note these are not the complete ayats, but I took keywords from each ayat. If you would like to read the full ayat, then check the reference. 💬For example take a look the first statement: 🌹Don't insult (Q49:11), when you google Quran 49:11, then you will see the complete surah’s English translation and you will see following: ☝️🕋O believers! Do not let some ˹men˺ ridicule others, they may be better than them, nor let ˹some˺ women ridicule other women, they may be better than them. Do not defame one another, nor call each other by offensive nicknames. How evil it is to act rebelliously after having faith! And whoever does not repent, it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers.☝️🕋 🤲🌻ALWAYS REMEMBER🌻🤲: ✍Allah is the most merciful and forgiving, no matter how much you have been sinning, run towards Allah , turn to Allah and repent , ask for forgiveness. Some references from the Quran: 🌺🌺🌺🕋Quran 39:53🕋🌺🌺🌺 Say, ˹O Prophet, that Allah says,˺ “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins. He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 🌺🌺🌺🕋Quran 25:70🕋🌺🌺🌺 As for those who repent, believe, and do good deeds, they are the ones whose evil deeds Allah will change into good deeds. For Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 🌹Feel free, copy and paste this message. 🌹🌹To copy it, open the same page using your mobile phone's browser then, you can copy it using your touch screen or alternatively open this page using your computer then you can copy and paste it using your mouse. I hope, I was able to remind you some of the commands from the Quran.
@musahabibi4954
@musahabibi4954 Месяц назад
@Artofwarthebookof5rings
@Artofwarthebookof5rings Год назад
Extremely humble man. A rare trait of people of influence in faith.
@marjoleinvangeffen-kamp8951
MashaAllah, I am so happy finally somebody adressing this topic, which was always hard to deal with for me as a convert. As I am very convinced by the theology of islam, this kind of exxaggerated stories always stirred small doubts. DjazakAllahu khairan.
@andreos2004
@andreos2004 Год назад
Alhamdulillaaaaah So amazing Thank you brother and sister for this new series
@user-tf1co1oe6z
@user-tf1co1oe6z Год назад
; اللهمَّ يا مصرِّف القلوب صرِّف قلوبنا إلى دينك، واهدنا وثبِّتنا وعافِنا واعفُ عنَّا ؛
@Downlead
@Downlead Год назад
آمِينٔ
@ahashi10
@ahashi10 Год назад
Thank you, I like the way you concluded with a suggestion to rewrite the commentary with modern knowledge and incorporate the correct knowledge from the past.
@bilaljahi5364
@bilaljahi5364 Год назад
Sister is becoming my favorite interview hostess. Good questions from a Muslimah!!
@ultrasignificantfootnote3378
Here is another fantastic story from the Quran ( in my opinion ) "God spoke the universe into existance" .
@DarioHaruni
@DarioHaruni Год назад
Interestingly there is a story from ancient Babylon that matches this story. It's about Marduk, whose name resembles Marut, who is described as a king-god. Malak (angel) and Malik (king) have the same etymology, so I think the Malaika are not only special beings, they're like generic forces of God, they can be metaphysical, they can be also humans called like that as a sign of respect.
@firojakasam9129
@firojakasam9129 Месяц назад
WRONG WRONG AND WRONG🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@SEVIMCRUZ
@SEVIMCRUZ Год назад
Jazakallah khayrun
@stephenwilson9872
@stephenwilson9872 Год назад
The answers to the deepest inquiries of our kind; Are to always be held in the rarest and can only be in full to try and grasp; by those tested years 10-20 years to leave with any count toward character. A worthy inquiry
@219nes
@219nes Год назад
This man is the best best best explainer of the islam! This is in my opinion a true muslim. Ofcourse Allah knows best but he thinkssssssssss
@WahidAzizi1
@WahidAzizi1 Год назад
How can someone write 1000 books in one lifetime. Impressive.
@NedimTabakovic
@NedimTabakovic Год назад
Who are you to doubt how dare you do you want me to cast a spell on you 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@blacktwitterforlaughs4743
@blacktwitterforlaughs4743 Год назад
It's a myth. It's not possible. Just humanly impossible. Use reason.
@MohamedShou
@MohamedShou Год назад
@@blacktwitterforlaughs4743 I agree I love Al-Suyuti and have one of his books translated *and hopefully get more of his works* and enjoy reading it. But there is no way he wrote 1000 books, unless of course it’s little pamphlets but even then it can’t be 1000. I would say less then 100 🤷🏾‍♂️
@yourstruly5706
@yourstruly5706 Год назад
By 1000 books it means booklets, some are repetitive looking at the same thing from different angles. They weren't like us, they spend the whole day in research, study, making notes extracting principles etc.
@NedimTabakovic
@NedimTabakovic Год назад
@@yourstruly5706 Would you defend Christianity or Judaism like that or some other religious system, or some sects...shia...suni...sufi.. ❔ Also tons of books, systems with "pedigree"... What you're on I've been there until I realised alot of things served like Islam are actually not...
@brotheryosef3066
@brotheryosef3066 Год назад
Numbering the episodes on the cover photo is very cool. 👍
@burnbaltimore3901
@burnbaltimore3901 4 месяца назад
05:40 Dr Shabir you gotta revise the selection of word “Deny” on this particular occasion because angels do not have free will to deny. Only Jin Azazil aka Iblees had free will to Deny The interpretation was angels asked Allah , we are told to pray for humans for the tests they are put in as superior beings then how they are creating such chaos and sinful acts on the earth being so special. Allah The Creator asked them to nominate 3 most pious among them to be put into test. 1 nominee was so scared that he withdrew and 2 were sent to the earth Haroot & Maroot I can understand you are trying to place simplest version of commentary on verses for modern western audience. However selection of words have to be precise since it may divert the civilized audience which are still unaware of no connection of Christians to Halloween or Santa Clause. I hope you understand my message.
@masseyenglish6328
@masseyenglish6328 Год назад
Thank you Br. Shabir for ditching that Mennonite style. Alhamdu Lillah.
@brotheryosef3066
@brotheryosef3066 Год назад
May Allah keep you both ali's & your team. Very good topic allah enable to watch all of it.
@kathiramu1182
@kathiramu1182 Год назад
Excellent analysis sir
@abdullahserifeoglu8699
@abdullahserifeoglu8699 Год назад
Dr Shabir s extremely smart😮MashaAllah
@truebluekit
@truebluekit Год назад
I don't get it. Why the doubt? What about this is fantastical? The al-Qur'an spoke clearly about Harut and Marut being sent to Babylon, and that they taught magic to the people, at least one magic, that is how to cause a husband to be separated from his wife, but only through the permission of Allah. Allah SWT can create anything, just by the command "Be!", and whatever it is shall become. So why the doubt about something so small like what two angels did? Are you telling me that these occurrences are enough to shake your faith? If they are, then you really should take a long look at yourself.
@walkingwith_dinosaurs
@walkingwith_dinosaurs Год назад
Thank you so much for one amazing series after another! I'm excited to hear about Mariam getting pregnant with Isa, some people say that the Quran doesn't imply that it was a conception without a father. On the other hand, we have Parthenogenesis, a natural form of reproduction, where a female doesn't need a male to conserve. So it means the development of an embryo from an unfertilized egg cell. It only occurs in non-mammalian species and plants, but a few years ago Japanese scientists made a mouse get pregnant and give birth to a healthy mice without using a male genetic material or sperm.
@MohamedShou
@MohamedShou Год назад
Key sentence “scientists made a mouse get pregnant”
@walkingwith_dinosaurs
@walkingwith_dinosaurs Год назад
@@MohamedShou so what? You think what can be done in a lab can't occur in nature?
@truebluekit
@truebluekit Год назад
@@walkingwith_dinosaurs Lab != Nature ... so no.
@user-bn7de7by2m
@user-bn7de7by2m Год назад
ََسبحان الله وبحمده سبحان الله العظيم سبحان الله الحمد لله لا إله إلا الله الله أكبر ولا حول ولا قوة الا بالله العلي العظيم رب اغفرلي ولوالدي وللمؤمنين يوم يقوم الحساب
@painterpetespainterpetes1244
lots love to you all God's love 💘
@The_Angry_BeEconomist
@The_Angry_BeEconomist Год назад
the magic of ribah...
@yasilakasiyi1155
@yasilakasiyi1155 Год назад
Salaam. Can you discuss one day about the marriages between non Muslims to female or male young Muslim especially in the west? Jazakullah khairun
@Chandransingham
@Chandransingham Год назад
This is most fascinating. Corresponding Biblical era is Neo-Babylonians with the famous King Nebuchadnezzar 605-562 BCE and the Prophets were Habakkuk, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Second Isaiah. This was followed Persian Period under King Cyrus who captures Babylon and decrees the return of Jews to Israel. The Study Quran has reference to Harut's and Marut's sinful ways in Babylon. Any sagacious review could perhaps revisit Biblical Prophets particularly of the longest book which is Jeremiah's. Benedetta Rossi gives the latest commentary on Jeremiah on pp 875-940 in The Jerome Biblical Commentary for the Twenty-First Century (t&tclark 2022).
@stephenwilson9872
@stephenwilson9872 Год назад
A teacher and director of Shepard and directors Is what I’ve been told by G-D since a child To be ready or getting ready for
@mdshahinalam3418
@mdshahinalam3418 Год назад
I enjoy this beautiful series
@burnbaltimore3901
@burnbaltimore3901 4 месяца назад
It may seem very hard to objectify the commentaries done by old scholars as per your statement, meanwhile your version being simpler evidently has somehow distorted the whole concept of angels in Islam where you have mentioned the phrase “ Angels deny”
@tyrellrivera
@tyrellrivera Год назад
The children of Israel do not believe in fallen angels anymore than we do. Neither do the Zoroastrians; Wicked spirits are created by the Evil One, according to their tradition.
@NedimTabakovic
@NedimTabakovic Год назад
Someone's misguided modernist is someone else rightly guided traditionalist...and that floats...
@sadiazulfiqar7223
@sadiazulfiqar7223 Год назад
Please also translate in Urdu language
@123dsj123
@123dsj123 Год назад
In Quran 23:14, Allah explains the developing stages of the human embryo (fetus, human un-born child) inside the womb: (First) the bones are formed and developed, then (Second) the flesh grows and covers the bones. Quran 23:14 reads, “… Then of that clot we made a lump; then out of that lump (we made) bones and clothed the bones with flesh...” * This is a scientific nonsense - the fetus’s bones do not form first, then later covered by flesh. No embryologist has observed the skeleton of the fetus inside the womb prior to (or before) the flesh starts to grow around the skeleton. Both the bones and the flesh are formed or developed simultaneously (at the same time) - not one after the other. * Here, we can see the perfectly preserved, eternally un-created Quran, the book Muslims turn to for instructions on hatred, terror, and murder, has just put a “Fatwa” (Death Sentence) on every embryologist who refuses to say, “First, the bones of the fetus are formed and developed; and then later, the flesh grows over it.”
@AliiiG
@AliiiG 5 месяцев назад
Shut up
@rxnnone7480
@rxnnone7480 Год назад
is he disrespecting the Angels? Allah didn't say anything bad about these angels, Allah said human killed them cruelly. Never gonna listen this guy, Modern American Alem trying his own opinion on Islam.
@peterhwang1860
@peterhwang1860 Год назад
Yes, this is classic Quran. It cites a pagan, Jewish, Christian, or in this case, Zoroastrian myth with very little context or explanation, then goes on to state how this proves the wisdom or power of Allah, and leaves the reader thinking, "Huh?"
@peterhwang1860
@peterhwang1860 Год назад
Compare the Quran' fantastical snippets about Solomon to the Bible's relatively sober and detailed account in 1 Kings 1-11. The Bible does not manipulate history to support its worldview but simply tells it as it is. Despite the tremendous wisdom and power of Solomon, extending the kingdom of Israel to unequaled earthly glory, he was unfaithful to God in seeking so many foreign alliances and women. This points true believers to a greater kingdom, a heavenly kingdom that could only be ushered in by the ultimate Son of David, Jesus the Messiah!
@shekishral6570
@shekishral6570 Год назад
Who is Venus, I never heard of her ( From an Islamic perspective )?
@techknowsimply365
@techknowsimply365 5 месяцев назад
Oh ..what's her name..Jewish tradition..
@teteatoto2236
@teteatoto2236 5 месяцев назад
@@techknowsimply365 Ishtar?
@unknown1360
@unknown1360 5 месяцев назад
This is jewish tradition and goes against islam. These stories are made to degrade angels
@hadiyatali193
@hadiyatali193 Год назад
Why are they addressing commentaries of the Quran, when we know that these issues have already been resolved by the scholars of Ahl sunnah wal jammah.? Are they following the agenda of Shaitan and seeking to disparage the scholars themselves?
@goranbevanda8875
@goranbevanda8875 Год назад
Babil is before the flood of Nûh (Alayhi salam) ! Babylone is after the flood time of the sumerian peuples !
@user-uu8fj8xc3x
@user-uu8fj8xc3x 2 месяца назад
Save Palestine
@ziauddin7948
@ziauddin7948 Год назад
no matter what baseless & self created false stories early interpretors of Quran had associated with the Quranic verses related to angels Harot & Marot هاروت و ما روت ، the verses themselves clearly declare that they were angels but their actions were SATANIC شيطانى # a Hadith also support which says " SATAN شيطان sends his agents across the world & when each agent returns & inform SATAN i did this today SATAN شيطان says U didn't do any thing but when one agent reports SATAN شيطان i have created a dispute between the wife & husband today & separated them , SATAN شيطان embrace the agent & says U did a great job #
@NedimTabakovic
@NedimTabakovic Год назад
Isn't Iblis fallen angel?
@Sorel366
@Sorel366 Год назад
No he is a jinn
@NedimTabakovic
@NedimTabakovic Год назад
@@Sorel366 Angel jinn
@dodom.8741
@dodom.8741 Год назад
@@NedimTabakovic go read quran and stop being ignorant
@NedimTabakovic
@NedimTabakovic Год назад
@@dodom.8741 Thank you I do... and who is ignorant here you or me?
@dodom.8741
@dodom.8741 Год назад
18:50 Again educate yourself & don’t embarrass yourself further
@2AN3M
@2AN3M Год назад
QuranIc stories were also taken from the legends that existed before. Nothing divine. You don’t need super intellect to figure that out
@mohamedimohamedi8933
@mohamedimohamedi8933 Год назад
Other books are corrupted we have Quran in our hearts
@2AN3M
@2AN3M Год назад
@@mohamedimohamedi8933 Quran is also corrupted. Ayah of stoning was a part of Quran and also breastfeeding of adult according to Umar and Ayesha. Surah Ahzaab was the size of Al-Baqarah but was lost. “Never say you got the full Quran but say we have what was …..?” You know who said this :) Many other narrations that put a question mark on not only the preservation but transmission of Quran too. Read your own books.
@temporaryaccount5307
@temporaryaccount5307 Год назад
Mzms do make fantastic story tellers. The stories are just plum dumb, but the story telling is off the charts. Not so much Ibn Fibbin footnote as he just keeps making a fool out of himself, but yes, mzms love their stories. I mean...who else has talking ants having regular 2 way conversations , thieving rocks that steal clothes and forgives, books that come to life and talk, flying donkeys to outer space and my personal favorite: a profit who has no prophecies!
@ebulleytheophilus3054
@ebulleytheophilus3054 Год назад
Islam and fairy tales 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@temporaryaccount5307
@temporaryaccount5307 Год назад
@@oghanchi no...says even ur Q. In fact, the writers of ur many Q’s admit mhamed was thought to be just a story teller.
@temporaryaccount5307
@temporaryaccount5307 Год назад
@@oghanchi 25:45 says But the unbelievers say, "This is nothing but a lie which he has forged, and others have helped him do it...Tales of the ancients, which he has caused to be written; and they are dictated before him morning and evening." (Surah 25:4-5) So how/what did the Q writers do to handle or disprove this accusation? Attack the character of the accusers then simply repeat that the Q was brought down from heaven. So nothing has changed lol. But then elsewhere they contradict themselves, as they very often do, and admit it’s nothing but stories. They’re called “pretty stories” lol. When u remove all the "pretty stories" its reduced to a few pages of threats and warnings. “We relate to you the most pretty stories in what we reveal to you in this Qur'an.” Surah 12:3 Now what?
@phobos4k
@phobos4k Год назад
@@temporaryaccount5307 Quran 25:45 is talking about what pagans thought. You believe the pagans? Probably because you being a christian I suppose. Quran 12:3 is talking about story of Joseph so why wouldn't it be fantastic? It also states that Prophet didn't know about this prophet before. Now tell me this? Do you think Jesus is a lier? That's what the Jews thought about Jesus so if you are consistent in your logic then Jesus should be a lier, right?
@lawalumar1573
@lawalumar1573 Год назад
@@phobos4k Thank you my brother, forget that Trinitarians Paulinian Roman Pagan Christain that believe in man made bible written by anonymous romans pagans illiterates drunkards. If he was consistant with fairytale according to his corrupted scripture. "Dead corps went into jerussalem and appear to many". Which historically is a lier. Professor Bart Earhman Says it all in his book. "FORGERY AND COUNTER FORGERY".
@ebulleytheophilus3054
@ebulleytheophilus3054 Год назад
@@phobos4k am not talking about Jesus,I said the Quran is full of tales
@LukmaniaAratugolia
@LukmaniaAratugolia 11 месяцев назад
He's daughter actually 😅 best collaboration.
@SoDaoudi
@SoDaoudi Год назад
4:30 lol
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