I made this video to demonstrate what a huge influence Eddie Van Halen had on everyone back in the day. Even guitarists like Ritchie Blackmore tried to play like EVH.
Hey guys, I trimmed out the Blackmore solo part because it was too long. Please check out the Blackmore part here - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BIOeFTBQPHk.html 🎸🎸🎸!!!
Ummm no. That’s not Ritchie trying to do Eddie. Blackmore had plenty of moments that were clearly inspirational to Eddie, if not blueprint for him. The YFNO solo from Live in London, the feedback segment on Space Truckin’ from Made In Japan…. no, Blackmore is doing Blackmore there. That this moment is not the best he’s ever done, well…. it goes that way sometimes when you take a real risk improvising every night you take the stage. In retro, one can clearly see where Eruption would not even exist if it weren’t for Ritchie getting up in front of 300,000 people at CalJam and setting the mold.
I was going to bring that up thanks. Randy and Eddie were in the same circles and both went to craft their own individual sound. They are similar because that’s what was going on at the time.
@@edward9884 he also admitted in an interview it bothered him that he does a lot of what Eddie does, because that's what the kids (fans) like. He said he wanted to come up with something more original but it was gonna take time. He finished by saying "Eddie is great though, I don't want to be near competing with someone like that"
It’s too bad Randy said himself that he finds himself playing Van Halen all the time. And wishes he could have found his own style of playing. This is out of the horses mouth.
@@SMARTS_YT pulling out of the horses mouth so to speak, tell it like he really said it, its flash and copy licks for his solo piece! not anything musical or songwriting wise. you are welcome.
@SMARTS_YT Hey, you ever hear of that riff from a little song called crazy train? You know, that one that plays at EVERY sporting event? That one song that didn't have a vaudeville hack squeaking over it every damn second they could???? Eddie was genius, sure, but if you are going to come on forums and not respect or hear the genius in Randy Rhoads, you might not want to work an iron when it's hot or pick up a pot from a hot flame, cause you are clearly lacking common sense and will defintly hurt yourself walking around without that level of intelligence. Lol
But Eddie did Panama or jump. Stack that up to Crazy Train alone and randy wins hands down as the lasting legend. Evh always was the typist with no soul
Eddie sounded natural. Like a drunk rolling down the stairs and then rolling into a standing position and shouting ”ta-da”. He managed to connect all the clever techniques together in a fluid natural sounding way.
He got a lot from Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page. He took it further into his own, but a lot of his moves and locks are straight out of the Jimi and Jimmys playbooks.
I heard that Randy never stopped taking lessons even when on tour and already a rock god. So the opposite - guitarists are in awe of his humility and willingness to learn. It's a big lesson / example. In contrast... there is a video around on YT where George Harrison actually says [paraphrased] "I could have been quite good but Ringo and I didn't practice that much between Tours and records".
Randy had absolutely crisp notes at massive speeds, he is unlike any guitar player. Combine this with a vast knowledge of music theory, his compositions were unique.
Only through Ozzy's guidance. Quiet Riot sucked. They were flops until they capitalized on Randy's name. Who knows the next lps he made could have flopped? He was far from done. I thought Jake E Lee was a better player, and is under rated. He had to play clone riffs for Ozzy and managed to squeeze him self in there. Absolute professional. Eddie was the first "mainstream" shredder. Based his riffs an awful lot on Jimmy Pages stuff. Most of the greatest are someone else on steroids. They take other ideas to extremes. Imo
@@andrewruiz7894 I'm a great fan of Jake E Lee, but he is different to Randy and had the opportunity to build on what Randy achieved. No one beats Randy when it comes to innovating Rock harmonies (chord progressions) at his time, revelation mother earth, suicide solution, believer. These are not standard 1-4-5 progressions. They are entirely different, that's why they sound different. He grew up in a music school and could take classical harmonies and translate them to heavy rock. Ozzy, even if sober, would not of had a clue, much like the rest of us!!! This is a guy who at the height of success was set on dropping rock and doing a Degree in music!!! No one does that.
I guess you never heard of Al Di Meola in the seventies. Pull him up on RU-vid between 1976Race with Devil on Spanish Highway live you’ll see him playing a sunburst Les Paul it’s about 9:20 long Wanna talk about clarity.
I met Eddie in 1991 and he was in rehab at Saint Joe’s. Hung out with him a few times in meetings. Smoked a few cigarettes with him in the back. Give him a book when he got his 30 day chip. He remembered me. When I was at a meeting, he walked up and said hey Steve, how are you. I couldn’t believe it. I guess it was my 15 minutes. I wish I could’ve helped him stay sober. He finally got sober for Wolfie. I miss you my friend. Thanks for the memory.
Wasn’t that the same yr Wolfie was born… I wondering if he might have been doing out pt therapy .. I only say this because Valerie has made no mention that Ed went into therapy that yr because Ed was the one who would get up through the night with Wolfie to feed and change him..
The Gem in here is the Randy video!! I’ve never seen this so rare. You can see just how different of a player he is. He’s another level he was so fluid in his runs. Truly a master already and so young here! Badassery!
I love how Randy still sounded completely unique. I wish we could've seen what it would've looked like between him and Eddie had he lived. The eighties would've been even crazier.
I saw VH on their World Invasion ('Women & Children First") tour at Hammersmith Odeon in 1980, & Blizzard Of Oz at Port Vale football ground, 1981 - both EVH & Rhoads had their own unique styles, so to make comparison, is futile. For my money, Rhoads had the edge - but that's a personal opinion.
Mad respect to EVH - one of a kind virtuoso with his own unique Frankenstein of a style. But - I also hear and see a 22/23 year old Randy Rhoads with a style and brilliant creativity all his own. THANK YOU, and RIP to both. ❤️
Angus was playing that at least as early as 1977 (a year before VH1) as part of the Let There Be Rock solo. He definitely wasn't influenced by Eddie. Facts.
Indeed. It's the other way around. Eddie was a great admirer of Angus. You can hear this clearly in his way of playing, he just made it his own by using a lot more finger tapping and of course the whammy bar. Eddy never made a secret of that either. He loved AC/DC!
You guys are all wrong. Angus is next to Brian Johnson in that clip, who joined the band after Bon Scott died in 1980. Eddie Van Halen's eruption came out in 1978 and it's not a coincidence that Angus is playing many of the same notes as Eruption in the clip. Angus was indeed (just for fun obviously), doing an Eddie Van Halen impression in that video.
@@rasheedali77 You guys are all wrong. Angus is next to Brian Johnson in that clip, who joined the band after Bon Scott died in 1980. Eddie Van Halen's eruption came out in 1978 and it's not a coincidence that Angus is playing many of the same notes as Eruption in the clip. Angus was indeed (just for fun obviously), doing an Eddie Van Halen impression in that video.
I love Edward and Randy and they are two of my all time favorites. As far as a musical master goes, I give the edge to Randy but Edward was truly an innovator. R.I.P. to both of these game changing legends. EV and RR forever.
Hi Ben, glad to see you! Well of course Ritchie did solos with the tremolo bar but in this video, did you notice he tapped with his middle finger? When he was reforming Deep Purple, he said he admired AC/DC and Van Halen. So i think he tried to do something as amazing as Eruption, but realised that he can't, so he got mad and wanted to break his guitar. By the way, Ritchie got that stuff from Jimi Hendrix. So Jimi was the first!
@@karsguitarchannel6088 I think the Highway Star solo was the bridge between Hendrix and Eddie, Blackmore seemed to combine Page's Communication Breakdown with Hendrix style tremolo. Unprecedented
Ritchie Blackmore could never handle the six string as good as Eddie. There is a video of Ritchie trying to play a solo with his right hand covering the fretboard, and his left hand trying to play something that was so bad that I had to click off the video. Incoherent music is not what people want to hear. Stick with what you're good at, and try new techniques on your own time if you haven't figured it out yet.
It's so great when video like this surfaces and we get a glimpse of these guys in their prime. And what a shame that nobody thought to film every show. Thank you whoever posted this!!
@@asegal4677 Except Eddie stole fast blues licks from Clapton and 2 hand tapping from an Italian Classical Guitarist....so I guess Eddie was a wannabe as well?
@@algrundau9441 Granted that nobody is devoid of influences, however Eddie doesn't sound like either Clapton or some Italian classical guitarist. By contrast, Randy here sounds like Eddie. Eddie has a distinctive style, both easily recognizable and extremely influential at that time -- so this seems not to be a fluke; it's likely just a copy and an inferior one.
@4runit654 Eddie was classically trained on the piano. However, what Eddie is "known for" is primarily blues pentatonic scales. His Frankenstrat added another piece to his legacy.
I just remember as a 14 year old in 1981 walking around town (Lodi Nj) with my buddy it seemed like every other garage or basement had a band. Including ours. Being a guitar player the conversation between guitar players was Eddie or Randy. It's a shame we only had 2 years of that magical moment. I was a Randy guy but don't deny Eddie's innovative everything. Randy just clicked with me more
it is basically a coin toss and personal preference, but the issue is EVH apologists seem to need to let everyone know how Ed invented everything......it's weird. The two guys grew up in the same area of LA, knew each other, but neither sounded like the other. George Lynch was also part of the holy trinity of LA guitar players, but he definitely tried to sound like Ed with the first Xciter album
@@jmm1817 Plus synth and piano. He wrote stuff no one ever even heard or sounded like before. We take it for granted now but all of those little easter eggs he did on every album. Usually one instrumental masterpiece per album for most of his career. Even now i remember vividly as a little kid that 1984 album. It was groundbreaking synth stuff never heard before or since. He wasn't just a great guitar player he could play every instrument. One of the greatest musicians of all time for sure. He wrote so many hit songs.
Hendrix died in 1970, Eddie was 15 in 1970, Van Halen formed in 1973. It took them 5 years to get signed. All the stuff on the first two albums was already writen and and being performed by release of the first album. So close as almost contemporary. But for the fact Jimi would never get the chance to hear Eddie.
Obviously randy had less time here, but it’s not like Eddie “took time” to achieve his status. It was instantaneous upon the release of VH1. Maybe randy just needed more time. Cuz Ed’s better
Ed's guitar riffs and rhythm work is what I admired about him the most. After he changed electric guitar as we knew it in the 70s, so many others came and ran off with it. Ed stayed in VH and wrote monster rock songs which still stand up. All of Randy's work on those Ozzy albums too. Timeless both of them!
Uli Roth also used classical arpeggios and modes in his solos, but that was in 1975/76/77, so Blackmore was first. And Jan Akkerman from Focus also used similar guitar techniques.
@@AndyNyleHendrix, Cobain taught everyone to play and smash, burn their guitars. EVH taught everyone to play and rebuild their own customized guitars😂 I liked all of them.
@@markusantonio4866 it’s harder to break something that you build. But I am sure Eddy smashed plenty of guitars in private when they were not up to his standards
I love EVH and Randy. If I had to choose just one album between the two of them it would be the Diary album. Randy's playing on that album is second to none. Also, props to Bob Daisley' contribution. Up yours Sharon!!
Glen Buxton from Alice Cooper, the original band. Mountain Guitarist Leslie West was the other. I would say West was probably the most influential of the three on Randy's playing. I never really got people saying EVH was. Apparently, the two didn't care much for one another with Eddie's photo apparently taped onto Randy's effects pedal. 🤣
Finger tapping was huge in the 80s because of EVH. Lots of players did it. That dude from Night Ranger did it with 8 fingers which was mind blowing at the time for us young guitar players.
Randy is truly impressive in this clip. While Eddie's tapping was instantly a thing then, Randy was seriously into classical guitar music and his soling lines amply reflect that. Hats off to both Edward and Randy. Rock got a swift kick in the nuts when it needed one. Regarding Ritchie, he was a pioneer in heavy rock. He made a lot of noise in Made In Japan but man it was such amazing noise. The clip shown here is also noise making but he must be taking the piss. AC/DC is simply great. As for Edward, he's the Mozart of 20th century rock guitar.
ya but Randy had been doing that solo for years.... Randy was a more diverse player. But the real issue is Randy never cited Ed as a favorite that is a lie or ignorance.
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Sorry Dave, not true. Max Norman (who worked with Ozzy on their first album) said Randy told him this: "Van Halen was one of the few guitarists Randy would talk about. One day I asked him, 'What guitar players do you like, Randy?' And he said, 'I like Eddie Van Halen.' I had never seen Eddie play, so when Randy started doing all that finger tapping stuff, it was all new to me. But Randy didn't cop Eddie's licks, he just picked up on some of his ideas and methods of playing. It's only natural to get something from someone else - all guitarists do it."
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Find me the interview if you are pulling quotes from message boards, many of those are made up, they want to see what suckers they can find.
@Archangel0804 no one said two guitarists are the same, they absolutely can be compared they play guitar. Any two people can be compared and contrasted. I know Darth hideous fumbled with no video footage or being ready to ball by August 1981, she should have pro footage or videos taken to promote Diary of a madman.
@Dave Wight Dave....As a player of over 30 years, you are dead wrong. No two guitarists are ever the same, and therefore shouldn't be compared in the manner presented here. OF COURSE EVH is the master of HIS OWN LICK.... I would expect that!! All of these guitarists are awesome in their own way. Everyone develops their own style, and every player is the sum of their influences with some amount of deviation. If someone gave Randy some good film footage of Eddie playing Eruption way back in the late 70's and early 80's, I guarantee Randy could play it EXACTLY. Randy was a FAR better player than I am, yet I can play Eruption just as well as Wolfgang VanHalen who pretty much has mastered his father's rendition. It's less difficult than it looks. For that matter, There are freaking 10 and 12 yr olds here on RU-vid that can play Eruption pretty well! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kcfqZphAMYw.html People forget that Randy died in March of 1982. RU-vid didn't exist, and MTV was just getting started. So that left you with a concert to view a performance and no one had a cell phone to record the performance either. There also wasn't exactly any readily available film to study of someone else's work. And that was the case here.
When Van Halen came out back in the day I bought the album. Learned how to play Eruption but also learned I was no Eddie Van Halen. Same thing Randy Rhodes, SRV, and so many others. One day I had an epiphany. Just play your own music, be a musician and entertain. “If I can’t be my own I’d be better dead.” Layne Staley
Yes, he's mine too as great as those others are. Also I gotta say Ritchie was so blindingly fast I didn't even catch a single second of his Eddie Impersonation. Classic Ritchie total speed demon ; ) (Jokes aside, wonder if he had to edit it out to get this video uploaded?)
No one is even close to him , he's only "problem" is lack of popularity . 😊 And there's evidential proof to that - DP, Rainbow and all the great musicians he found, build and set free to stardome
EVH changed the landscape of electric guitar for everyone. You can hear it in the tone alone...it was a gold standard other contemporary players reached for, along with his techniques....
@@automatoncollectives7237 does not matter, how is that relevant to his playing or what he wrote. That is just a such weird viewpoint....I would say a band that owes a label 2 million dollars after recording and touring is the epitome of a doormat, and they had no recourse. You realize you are insulting Van halen far worse with your angle? they were millions in debt that is a horrible situation to be in. And you are actually wrong as a hired hand, Randy was offered a management fee schedule as a band member. Randy was clearly cop-joined with ozzy as the guys in the band at the time of his death,.
I agree with Brian May that Hendrix & EVH changed how everyone else played the guitar. Those two will ALWAYS be the GOLD standard of rock n roll guitar. Miss you much EVH.
I disagree. Van Halen influenced a lot of rock players. I never heard of a blues, jazz, classical etc player changing their guitar style because of him, but l know many musicians (not just guitar players) changed because of Jimi.
Am I the only one that didn't see Ritchie???? Was looking forward to it but . . . Great performers none the less! Hats off to obtaining this treasure of truly priceless footage. ROCK ON!!!
Thanks Joe for checking out, great pleasure! I had to trim out that Blackmore part. Please check out the link in my comment below the video. The thing is that even Blackmore got influenced after Eruption. This is why he dropped his Ranbow project and reformed Deep Purple in 1984. In his 1984's interviews, Blackmore says that he admires AC/DC and Van Halen.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 He dropped Rainbow and reformed Deep Purple because they offered him a massive wad of cash and he had to fund his divorce. Ritchie could be amazing live and also could be completely awful live (mostly in the 80s), never matching EVH's accuracy. But he was first with a lot of this stuff.
@@JamesMoore-un3cu can anyone deny, eddie was the game changer. randy however wasnt the simple wannabe, he had his own ear & an improv machine nearly as well- honed as eds. they both left the pentatonic realm more readily than their cited 70s forefathers. every time randy busted out it was like little classical candy bombs bursting off.
I appreciate them both for what they gave. Eddie was about 5 yrs Randy's senior, in the guitar playing world. He still rained Supreme in record sales and I'm sure still does.
Eddie is absolutely glorious, i wish I could've seen him live back in the 80s.. The closest i got to watch a guitar legend was Iommi during the Mob Rules tour
They all played a mean guitar, but Eddie was a mad scientist that played a mean guitar. RIP Eddie and Randy. I hope you're both jamming with Jimi and Bon
Randy Rhoads was a contemporary of Eddie van Halen and what's more they were both from LA so they influenced each other. Both stellar but these days I'm more drawn to RR, his playing had more finessse and subtle nuances not to mention his humbleness and shyness was very reminiscent of Hendrix.
@@kevinstewart1898 Randy won MTV's Best New Talent in 1981. I believe he may have won the same sort of award for best new talent for Guitar World, but i could be mistaken.
THANKS SO MUCH,..for these clips.....Eddie,...SOUNDS...like EDDIE,.....& RANDY RHOADS SOUNDS like RANDY RHOADS....no matter what anyone says.....you can HEAR IT..!!!
I say this with massive respect for EVH: Randy’s speed and precision are on a different level. Had his life not been cut short, and he continued with the same intensity and desire to learn, …. What could he have been?
@@charlesdjones1 that is, ultimately, my humble yet subjective opinion. I know I am in the minority here. Lol. I have listened to both - and many others - closely for many years. I can’t explain it, but there is some element of Randy’s playing that grabs my soul. Interestingly, I find that Eddie’s son strikes me in a similar manner. But happy to cling to the contrarian view…
Though I'm a big fan of Eddie the music that Rhoads, and subsequently Jake, composed for Ozzy was far cooler, deeper, and far more mature than what the band Van Halen produced.
I agree completely ! When it comes to technical precision and quality of hitting every single note clearly with complete perfection Randy Rhoads was above all others by leaps and bounds .while other players would lay down a solo for a song they wanted in a recording studio . the engineer then punch in or dubbed that recorded first take to add thickness to the track .where as Randy would play the solos 3 times consecutively (3 separate times) and punch them in one on top of the other for a triple tracked solo with each take was played with the same exact speed and as hit every single note precisely and perfection .that's something that set Randy apart from his contemporaries .Max Norman the engineer who produced those 2 Ozzy studio albums said he had never seen anything like it and hasn't to this day .Rhoads deep knowledge and dedication of the guitar was second to none .
The thing I liked about Eddie the most was the fact that he carved out a sound that was his own. The right handed tapping and hammerones are a big part of it for sure but there is something about his style of playing and songwriting that you just can't mistake and that is what really made him iconic!
I know eh? He could fly across the strings like a madman the suddenly come down with these just monster destroyer chords heavier than all hell. Dude was the best!
Eddie and Randy were on different bad ass levels. Their styles are absolutely untouchable. I think its just amazing how a human being can take a musical instrument made of wood, metal, and plastic and make absolute magic with it.
Max Norman (who worked with Ozzy on their debut album 'Blizzard of Ozz') said Randy told him this: "Van Halen was one of the few guitarists Randy would talk about. One day I asked him, 'What guitar players do you like, Randy?' And he said, 'I like Eddie Van Halen.' And Randy said obnoxious things about Eddie just because he tried to imitate Eddie on stage but he didn't want to be considered as Eddie's clone and he definitily wanted to seperate himself from the Eddie comparisons (live). Randy tried to compete with Eddie and there was a professional rivalry thing going on but later Randy admitted that he liked Eddie's playing and was influenced by him. Ask George Lynch. "We were all just trying to cop Eddie." This is George Lynch's quote: "We were jealous and we were all trying to play catch up. We thought, 'Oh boy, we better get on board. This guy's going to change the world.'
George speaks on behalf of people now? He and Randy were acquaintances, him projecting is amusing because Xciter clearly tried to sound like Ed. Randy never did. George does not speak on behalf of Randy, the family does though and friend of his, and they would have a different viewpoint counter to George's
I love RItchie AND Eddie. To be honest, Ritchie was more inspired by Hendrix with his whammy bar stuff. Ritchie has been doing these kind of pyrotechnics with the bar and feedback since his first run with Deep Purple (68-75) And here is a quote from Eddie Van Halen in Rolling Stone from 2011 : "Ritchie Blackmore I liked because of his vibrato bar use on ‘Deep Purple in Rock’ (1970). Also, they come out with great riffs. I mean, come on, “Smoke on the Water” is one for the history books.”
Randy was more schooled at music than Eddie. Yeah they were competitors but Randy's approach was based more off of music theory while Eddie had the most outrageous ear known to man.
Bullshit. Randy was not influenced whatsoever by Eddie and there was never any rivalry between them personally. The fans started the " Eddie or Randy " comparison. Randy learned and taught guitar at his mother's Musonia school. He never spoke badly about Eddie but the same can't be said for Eddie. He berated Randy saying he learned everything from him etc.
Dear music fans. Keep in mind that these artists were, at the time, marrying and merging classical music with rock and blues guitar. In 1980, a musician appeared that awed them all in that form of new "neoclassical" guitar. This was, in all honesty, first being done by the great virtuoso Jason Becker, who tragically later fell ill to ALS. It was later revoluationarily popularized by another guitar virtuoso. His name was Yngwie Malmsteen. To all the fans of these wonderful and great artists, you are truly blessed to have witnessed their mastery, some, as life would have it, more than others. So with that being said, let us celebrate the music no matter if you're a Van Halen fan (rip), a Randy Rhoades fan (rip), an Angus Young fan or any fan of the other truly great and wonderful artists. It was a wonderful time to be young, free, and alive.
All great his tone and the way he heard it in his head and to put into a certain way and to be able to make it sounded in his head is so wonderful for all of us
Thank you so much. I hadn't seen this video before of Eddie playing Eruption. So amazing how good he was right from the start and he stayed flawless his whole life.
Ah come on. Even my bass player could play Eruption. And that was when we were all beginning. Thats circus tricks. Music is not: hey look at me how good I am. One trick pony.
we should all step back from the fan discourse, and take a realistic view and realize how lucky we were to have grown up in an ERA with these legends and great players/musicians
Very cool vid! Angus and Blackmore and a couple more were already mostly there(see Uli or even Mark Farner or Sweet). But my gawd,Eddie truly was the GOAT of Metal Rock.
I will say it a million times, and mean it everytime Being a guitarist myself, I know what EVH was to me. Everyone else here knows what he meant to them. You can throw out all the superlatives you want about The Master, but there is never going to be an argument about his mastery of his chosen art. No else had players around the planet going "What the F is that". From his grin to his fingers Eddie was born to bring us joy through his expression of his art, and you can thank whatever god you believe in that he shared his joy with us. ALWAYS #1 UNPARALLELED. When the master emerged, from the opening chords of you really got me, every player knew the sonic landscape was changed in a way that was unheard of up to that time. Eruption smashed his foot onto your throat daring you to try to emulate him. No one can. do you know why? You cant be Eddie because you don't think like Eddie. There was never anyone like him, and there will never be another.
Agree evh is my all time biggest influence and favorite guitarist but to say that no other guitar player had other guitar players around the world going what is that sells Hendrix's influence short. Cuz he def had that impact as well. Whether you like him or not.
Eddie wondered wtf jeff beck was doing. He's even said so. He was like a star struck kid in Jeffs presence. Eddie was brilliant and sure lit it up for a few years. Beck is the goat
@@waitwhat9689 agreed. Even if you just stopped at tone, no one else could touch EVH...but when you add Eruption, Spanish Fly, Women in Love, Cathedral, Mean Street and essentially designing the modern Superstrat...EVH was the major game-changer for everyone in that period and after.
I’ve always said : “there’s honestly and truly no comparison between the 2 Randy and Eddie. They were both masters of their domains”. Through the studies that I’ve read,, Randy did feel a little threatened by the “finger tapping” of Eddie. He always felt that’s what the people wanted to hear. But remember Randy was the first to bring classical into hard rock.” They’re BOTH legends and had an honest respect for each other. Please stop trying to compare them. I dare say there’s not a person on this thread that can sound like either one of those 2 exactly. . Thank You all!! Keep Rockin!!
@@aparajitroy629 What planet are you on? Randy wasn't even on the same level as even Michael Schenker, let alone Eddie. Randy's tone was harsh and his playing sloppy in comparison to many.
@@aparajitroy629 Not trying to start an internet argument over an opinion. The facts are though that all the greats agree that Eddie is/was king. Even RR was flattered to have been compared to Eddie. I personally don't even put RR in the top 10, and certainly not in the top 1-5. I'm an accomplished player myself, and playing an EVH song requires greater skill than a RR song. EVH also wrote far more 'great/good' songs that had legendary riffs and godlike tones. RR wouldn't have done nearly as well without the Ozzy fame. The songs and riffs weren't as high quality or consistent compared to EVH.
I honestly think Randy wasn't a poser. He played classical guitar, and implemented way more of that into his playing than Eddie Van Halen ever did. He just picked up a few mannerisms of EVH since it took over the world of guitar so dang fast.
Thanks so much for those AWSOME footages Karen !!! And for the link to Ritchie's solo !! Makes me wanna crack up the Watts on a big Marshall !!! Eddie is on fire doing Jimi Hendrix stuffs with the feedback and wahmy !! And all his own tricks !!! Happy new year mate !!!
Yeah I'd like to hear this alleged Eddie impression from 1985, where is the link to Ritchie's solo? Or what should I search the web/RU-vid for, is it very specific or obvious? Sometimes people label things with cryptic titles. Thanks in advance!
amazing rivals with Eddie predating RR and both in the LA music scene he surely influenced him. Myself I much prefer RR IMO he did more in his 2 albums with ozzy than Eddie did in his career. EVH was great but too a certain degree as David Lee Roth once said his "solos all sound the same". While this rivalry was gearing up in LA the greatest, IMO, guitar player of that era was coming up in Texas, SRV
@@tonylucas66 ok if you want to get your panties in a bunch and split hairs EVH predated him in terms of hitting the big time and becoming star musician. The quiet riot debut may have been released about the same time but it did not propel QR to the top the way Van Halen 1 did for Van Halen. Randy didn't hit that level till Blizzard of Oz several years later. That said I much much prefer RR to EVH hands down. RR made more great music in 2 albums than EVH did in a lifetime. As for quiet riot they never really hit big till several years after RR death.
@@wildwillie5408 what matters is that you claim that Eddie Van Halen is the inspiration to getting Randy Rhoads to where he was as a player, which is patently false. They were contemporaries, and Randy already formed the basis of his playing style before he was even exposed to Eddie Van Halen
Eddie had one thing over all others. That was his ability to write music. There are hundreds of amazing technical guitar solos out there. But not a single one has even reached a 10th of the commercial success of eruption. Eddie made technical playing appealing to the masses.
Eddie couldn't write music, much less read it. He could never compose anything like "Diary of a Madman" or any of Randy's solos. Randy was actually a composer and his solos were carefully thought out, not just guitar wanking.
There is no question that Eddie Van Halen changed the way players played. For a while, all rock guitarists were shredding like Eddie. Now, finally it is over, but there was a time when everyone played like Eddie.
EVH is number one because of his legacy: reworking the mechanics of the actual guitar & writing memorable classic songs that filled entire albums with unique & irreplaceable music :
the VH songs today sound very dated. Silly, goofy party songs.... Rhoads wrote compositions about serious topics....sound like they were released yesterday..
If you saw Edward Van Halen live, especially during the first three tours, you understand there is no peer post Hendrix. He was pure passion, innovation, and musical honesty...just being himself.
Each of these guitarists are absolute legends. Did EVH bring something to the table? Absolutely! Was he influenced by Blackmore? Certainly. Pretty much everyone was in that era. Eddie didn’t invent playing fast. He didn’t invent hammer-ons and he didn’t technically invent two hand tapping. He did write some crazy good songs though.
@@kyrkwalters964 all’s good bro you can pull up a interview with Steve and he even says I never even thought about Tone . Frank Zappa said his tone is like an electric Ham sandwich
Randy Rhoads solo's were compositions, short musical pieces in themselves. A fierce and tactical musical technician. Imagine the band those in heaven get to listen to.
you are correct they were songs onto themselves, he simply knew more than the other guys and how to write melodic solos. Sometimes you hear Ed play a solo and not sure it necessarily fits with the song...but he did a lot of great solos too
I think Randy was more talented but Ed had the more pronounced influence as a rock guitarist and had a much longer career. Angus was going to maximize his skills....Blackmore influenced Ed and randy
All four players actually had their own impact, with AC/DC actually impacting VH songwriting...but EVH's techniques spilled over into the other 3 players...not vice versa. Ed impacted nearly everyone...and was really only most influenced by Holdsworth at that time.
@bokohara no it wasn't. What teen has sounded like what he got on Blizzard of ozz, a lot of people can not figure out how he got that tone. No one has ever sounded like Randy on those two albums, lots of people have sounded like Ed.
