Animal Movie Debate: Fans Vs Haters | Animal Movie Face-Off Leaves Audience Divided | Honest Review 

Arey yeh vaali battle nahi, Zain vs RaShu karvao ek ring lagaake. Referee me Mujhe bula Lena. Pitne do teeno ko.

ye durdarshan wali news ka feel de raha tha debate bhi ho rahi hai par jhagda gali nahi ho Raha maja aaya

Saath aa jao Yaar ye dekh kar bohot maza aata hai i miss old mensxp

Bhai john wick ke waqt kisiko police ki yaad nahi aayi kya iss movie mein aayi

Exactly

Yeah, so weird lol.

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provided he comes to mensxp studio Iske bahar nahi bol pate shubham bhai.... Fanboy moment ho jaata h 😂😂

Nahi bhai, ye inki sawa seri yahin par hai, celebrity ke interviews ke time inki ghigghi bandh jaati hai!!

But can he win against " kon jaat ho" guy

Very valid point^

even the father son relationship explored in GOW between Ramadhir and JP was far better and detailed than Animal.

😂😂😂😂😂you are funny

Then start watching quality movies,

Mera bhi mai audiance hu and its the best movie of this year mai connect hua mai audiance hu

Bhai tujhe acchi nahi lagi toh apni baat kar ...... We we mat kar 😵‍💫

@@Naman26449 Bhai mein apni aur Zain ki baat kar raha😋😝

​@@grey5421 *I as a audience

😂😂

that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

Bhai Film fir se dekh dhang se. Zain ne bahut superficially analyse kiya hai film ko. Ek baar movie dekh. Or subtle details dekh. Sb smj aa jayega. Police wala arguement was stupid. Father son ka relationship feel nhi hua. Wohi toh point tha movie ka. His father was never there.

​@@thethreespikes9737 Agreed bhai.... But Jo tune bola hai, Sara afterthought lagta hai... I should've felt Ranbir Kapoor's feelings in the theatre itself. Wo toh nai hua bhai...

@@sidsodani21 thats the magic bro. This movie is not in your face with emotions. Ye bahut subtle hai. Ye loud nhi hai apne emotions ko lekr. Bahut subtle hai. Ispr literally theories or character dissection kr skte hai log. Thats the beauty. Thing is film apko spoon feed nhi krti. Tabhi itna Subtlety dikhati hai. Ye ap pr trust krti hai. Ki you are intelligent enough to dissect alot of conflicts. Ye bus hint krti hai.

They knew deep down Zain is giving logical arguments so they didn't let him speak

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that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

Dude the whole movie was about a Son getting attention from his father. If they had a good relationship then movie hi nhi banti bhai. There was scene where Ranbir meet Anil in hospital and he don't know how to react in that situation has he never went through this situation before. They just stair at each other

​@@thethreespikes9737underdeveloped != subtle

@@nuttbaked Nope Subtle. There was no development deliberately. Thats the whole friggin point.

@@thethreespikes9737 development doesn't have to be positive to make a point just saying

that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

Isse zyda violence south movies m hota bhai kya baat kar rha h aprichit m kitna violence tha yaad nhi

Agreed

Lol Bhai itna violence south me kabhi nahi dekha Maine max gravity less scenes only and moreover any mal had illogical violence ​@@raja-jl9os

Phir bhi movie dekhne me bahot maza aaya. Especially first half

exactly

kuch bola hi nahi zain aur kaha se logical bro

that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

​@@thethreespikes9737 Great Observation Man...U Nailed the observation. The Problem with Zain is he already make up his mind to bash animal at any cost. he did not try to mention technicalities of the movie. I really felt the movie was so strong in terms of story, build ups , characterization ,looks of the actor playing the role ,locations and many more things. the movie was meant for new world which we were craving to engrossed. zain really missed the trick here by not actually understanding the whole plot and missed analysis of small details. it can easily been depicted that zain dont used a brain while watching this movie so its tough for him to understand the detailing of this movie and keep focusing on pure movie 'mai police kaha hai'🤣🤣 .its indian version of business' and mafia movie not actually a father son love story

@@pratsprofession5692 i dont blame him. These guys are so use to spoonfeeding. They missed the subtlety in the film. And became dismissive about it. He was saying there are crude sex jokes on women. I mean he is a guy. Thats how mostly boys talk heppen especially if the boys are some kind of gang members. I mean what did he expect, them to crack jokes on some philosophical level or something. They literally comes from village. Ofcourse the humour will be crude. The complains are just too childish from Zain. I did not actually expect that from him. The film is very subtle. If looked closely, it has answered each and every question from police not being there to his father son relationship exploration, to everything. The only thing masala about this film was interval action block.

@@pratsprofession5692 exactly. I mean it was his hotel to start with. He disposed the body of his jija and those who were kild with him. As for those bodies in interval block. It was seen as an act of teror which again was in his own hotel. His father was literally shot. It was obviously seen as an act of self defence. He thinks rich guys can't hire private security with guns. I mean its just lazy reviewing. Even the action in college is owned by his father. And his father literally tellls him that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which also implies there influence. I mean would those incidents be hard for him to twist in his favour. Its just pathetic reveiwing. Film has literally given you subtle clues for you figure that out. But no you want that to be spoonfed into you.

that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

@@thethreespikes9737 again and for the last time! we are not talking about their relationship, we are talking about the building of animal out of Ranbir Kapoor, just one scene of father son relation was not shown when he was kid. You cannot connect emotionally to Ranbir when he is crying all the time for his dad when his dad's screen presence is almost zero, same treatment with bobby deol he should have atleast some emotional connect with the audience and trust me it didnt hurt much to the audience when he died, but director chose to play the bpraak song on background was also cringy. All in all movie is good action set a new dimension for bollywood, yet it was not upto the mark when story telling with intensity lacks completely. and I blame it all on the runtime of the movie, but second half was lethargic. 3/5 stars is fine for it but you cant give it 5/5 like gangs of wasseypur

@@amandeepofficial He was animal from the beginning. He just kept himself tamed. That was the whole point. Go watch the film. He literally brought a gun in college premise. He was impulsive. It was shown in very subtle way. He doesn't want you to connect to Ranbir's character. Thats why every ounce of sympathy was taken away from you. Even the Zoya plot served that. People like first half because he was shown as heroic in that. His toxic traits were presented in very protective way. You even justify him kiling his jija. But the second half is where the depth comes in where his protective traits itself becomes borderline abusive in his obsession. His character is constantly falling throughout the second half. The trajectory is shown downward. Its not his problem you people crave in your face stuff instead of subtle. He literally says in the end. Do you know why I love you so much. I dont even have answer for that. The issue is you want to romanticise the character, hence you want to build a sympathy narrative for him through his father. But director wanted to strip him from every sympathy. He succeeds. He is a guy who acts out of impulse rather than intellect despite being smart. Zain had pathetic arguements. He wanted loud display of it. But director wanted to subtly showcase it. He did an excellent job. There is a lot of detailing and unsaid things between the two. Its a deeply layered relationship.

@@amandeepofficial yes i do agree on the bobby deol part. He deserved more screentime. Thats my only gripe with the film.

@@amandeepofficial gangs of wasseypur is on different level. But I must say Animal was the freshest content in bollywood in while. The fact we can discuss about his characterisation of his character is in itself a Vanga magic. I mean how many movies can start discussions like that in mainstream films.

If we apply logic in every movie, 90% of movies will not be made in India. Did you asked about physics and logics when Ram Charan jumped into crowd and started beating them lol. Shubham and Rajesh enjoyed the movie and they are chilling. The people who are getting offended are funny af. Chill karo, it's just selective outrage, the same people enjoyed watching Joker 2019

@@Hello-kh6bk Bold of you to assume I enjoyed RRR. Also, my problem lies with the storyline. Creative liberty till some extent is valid. You can't shield your poor skills by saying it's a movie so don't apply logic. For example, in Harry Potter which is a purely fictional world, the makers have to establish some sort of rules as to what is possible and what is not. If suddenly Harry's wand starts talking won't you say that's absurd? even though it is a world where magic exists

@@v_srikanthfinally someone who understands.i know that our audience don’t like meaningfull movies & want masala films to relieve the stress. But this doesn’t mean u can make this much violence movie with bad characters.that too,they glorified by putting sad music.i mean should i has to feel sad for him. It would have been so good if she divorced him & made him realise that what he did wrong .but no..she again forgive him.

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Bigg boss ka regular viewer aur KGF 2 ki tareef krne wale aadmi ke brain ki tareef krna is the most senseless shit you can do😂

@@rishabhdagur koi bhi insaan perfect nahi hota. Me Aaj bhi guilty pleasure me hollywood k shark, crocodile wali movies dekh leta hun. Zain inse to dhang ka hi review karta hai. Kuch movies me to disagreement hoga hi. Oppenheimer is the best movie this year. Men xp aur Zain ka seperate review dekhna uska.

Zain's 🤡

Cry more animal park is coming and we will make it biggest hit of Indian cinema 😅

that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

I did connect. On what he was feeling.

​@@yashfilms4571asi chutya film he bdhya lgti h bhai tumhe

Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

The college was owned by his father and she got bullied? That never happens.

@@harshitsinghai1395 Well it heppened. Thats why she was trying to contact her father. At the end of the day its fiction. She did not go in there with entitled mindset, you can say that. Or maybe they didn't know. I mean you can make alot of excuses for that.

It is exactly based on that. Even now every son can relate to this that they can count the heart to heart talk with their father. But that doesn't mean that they are connected less with the father. They can literally kill for it. That's exactly what represented.

You are still discussing on the film 20 days later, I think the director succeed

@@ankansenapati3600 It will discussed for a long time man.

Arey bhai do mean sexist themes ? 😂😂

Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

address bata bhai, rassi leke aa raha hoon

this movie already was the best theatrical experience this year

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Right

Agreed

Ye lo... KJo .. ka fan... ananya ka fan 🤣🤣🤣

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Bhak

Exactly

They did show that twice - once just after the fight between Ranbir rashmika, when kids intervene & Ranbir hugs his son to convince everything is fine. Second - in the climax, when the son comes running to hug him back. Isse zaada dikhaane ki zaroorat nhi thi. Dikha dete to critics bolte "Apne baap se time maang raha aur khud jaake apne bete se hi chipka hua hai!"

I think k 8 saal usa mei usne har din apne bacche ko pyar kia hoga, unlike his dad who has never spent an entire day with him in his entire life.

I mean, thats the point of the film. He is an imperfect man. He is not a man to be admired.

@@anythingman1827 yeah I mean I liked the film. When I say like I mean I really loved the film. But I wish there were more scenes that shows ranbir kapoor and his son’s bond

It was despicable, he was an animal toh vaise hi dikhaya hai It's so basic dude He was an animal throughout

You think bra strap, church, and hugging in bra was not necessary because you didn’t get the details of story. Bra strap - he was served and sign language, he already lost senses.. on top of that his wife added extra salt. He is frustrated hence he did so.. he started in playful way later intense, got a slap and smiled. Church - if u notice he says, there is no redemption. He is an animal. Hugging scene - he has grown fat and he appreciated his wife that she looks fab after 2 kids.. he is actually low he doesn’t show and tries to be strong. He emotionally weak at that point. To understand the details you will have to understand what director wants to convey. There are several small things which subconsciously build the character. I agree that for a viewer, it would feel unnecessary but it is director’s movie and the screenplay has it. Do watch all cast interviews, you will get more details

If cast interviews are important to understand the movie, then append the interviews to the movie in the theatre. A movie should be well isolated in itself. Also, I understand why the director wrote the 3 scenes you had mentioned but they shouldn't have made precedence in the final edit over scenes with Anil and Bobby's backstory. Eg. They made a 3-4 minute scene showing him pleading the cousins to join him but there was just a voice-over of Bobby being related?

@@negativeefforts6798 I didn’t mean cast interviews are important. That I said if you want to know more. In no movie you get to know all details. I said subconsciously character is build. I watched it 3 times then I got to know many things and when I watched interviews I got a lot more. What you think is necessary or not is subjective. Movies are subjective. Overall movie was engaging.. no movie is perfect. It has flaws and will have director’s bias. To judge the entire movie on few areas is not fair.

Zain had a very pathetic, superficial and dismissive take on film. that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details

aptly said no substance and some style.....what was good was the background music and songs.....having different composers brought a very good variety to the music.......there was no depth in the story/plot though......no great backstory of all the revenge and bloodshed......it looks like director just wanted to make a violent action film and weaved a shallow story around it.......the whole plot of Tripti Dimri was unnecessary.....looks like t-series gave a melodious song "pehle bhi main" to the director and he created this plot to use that song and include a sex scene to sell his movie to young immature audience......everything seemed forced and shallow and the movie and the characters lacked depth

​@@mishuccet1tripti plot was very necessary to strip ranvijay of any sympathy whatsoever , it was the final nail in the coffin.....what r you even saying...bcz of that his wife left him......how you think it's unnecessary .....yes it's shabbily done n physicality was shown cz it was just that physical .....