Dan and Jo, I have to add that I personally enjoy when you "hold class" for us like this. You did this with Sarah and Josh, as well this year. Please continue those types of videos with others like Manny from Rouge Perfumery. Here's an idea, what about a roundtable discussion with perfumers offering their opinions on various topics that you throw out to the group. Not sure how risky that would be, but everyone is doing Zoom meetings here, so get Sarah, Matt, Manny, Josh, Prin, or others together, and start up the Waft Talks.
This was really interesting. And it's nice to see Iso E Super get a fair shake compared to the boring snotty fragrance hipsters who dislike it because it's popular. Some don't have the nose to really experience the full beautiful profile of it though and just get hamster-cage or pencil shavings and some people don't smell it at all.
Brilliant insight into the whole animalistic faucet of perfume which Mathew totally nailed the why we as humans are so attracted to them of course it’s in our ancestors close and unhygienic life style makes total sense.great vid guys🇮🇪🙏🙏
Wow! Another great video! Matthew’s knowledge is extensive, and I found the conversation to be very interesting. Dan and Jo ask the right questions, and I love the comments. Self-taught, Matthew? Bravo! Longest video? Sure didn’t seem like it. This is in my top WFTL videos, and I’ve recommended it to others. I need to watch this again. Dan and Jo, I wish we could smell the materials with you. 🤔 Matthew, I’ll be ordering a sample set soon. Thank you all very much!
I could listen to you three guys all day. I'm waiting on Meleg's discovery set. But I sure to purchase his CIVET, DEER MUSK and FOUGERE full bottles in the future. No doubt.
I’m definitely not convinced that the civet paste extraction process is at all humane/ethical. I know and respect that everyone’s ideas about ethics and animal products differ situationally, but I feel Matt completely butchered the opportunity to clear up any misconceptions re: civet and animal cruelty.
Certainly not all civet musk is collected in an harmful or invasive manner. Ethiopia's economy is developing very quickly (top 3 in Africa, something like 6% a year) and the farmers can now afford to treat the animals much better, and they are beginning to understand the expectations western consumer have with regards to the treatment of animals. Poorly treated civets produce poor, horrible smelling musk - and this is usually sold to bait stores (the majority of civet paste is sold as animal bait, and not for perfumery). I do not purchase cheap, "bait level," civet musk. The very best civet musk (the type of musk I purchase) is collected from animals that are treated well. **However, If you've done your homework and have reached the conclusion that you won't use civet musk, then I have to respect your decision.** If someone else has done their homework, and decided they are cool with using it, then again I respect their opinion. We all have to make decisions for ourselves. God bless, and please take care.
@@MakingPerfumes Matt, I mean no disrespect to your or your opinions, but your reply above is only more evidence to the point I’m trying to make: that “doing one’s homework” seems completely reliant on just taking you or your single source’s word for it. That’s not homework, that’s blind trust, and since most people can’t just go across the world to see for themselves, that’s all we have so far.
@@ProtoAdamification Did you read his comment? He did not say that he only took his single source's word for the treatment of the civet. He said that civets which aren't treated well produce cheap and bad smelling musks. The musks he has neither smell cheap nor smell bad. So he can reasonably assume that the musks he buys, which neither smell cheap nor bad, are harvested from civets which are treated well.
@@PhilosophicalDance for clarity’s sake, I wrote my comment before he changed his OG comment (he bolded it) to include more detail. I do think that’s a wild assumption he/you are making, though, since it sounds like neither he nor you have seen the conditions or the actual process of the extraction. All I’m saying is the idea of an otherwise-wild creature being kept in captivity and having something shoved into their rear for an extraction process seems REALLY sketchy at best, and potentially very cruel/abusive at worst. Meanwhile, we have this guy using the way it smells as a “sure sign of quality.” I don’t know, I’d just think that if the process wasn’t too gritty, there would be more readily-available info/photos/videos of the process.
@@ProtoAdamification I mean, you're right in a sense. But say Meleg did actually see how these animals were being treated. Would you be convinced that they would be treated well? Or would you demand more evidence? Pictures? Videos? Actually going to Ethiopia and seeing it for yourself? At the end of it, most of us only have testimony to fall back on. Not everyone has the luxury to be able to travel to all the places that the items they consume originate from. There's a bit of faith involved in any decision. And really, ultimately for me, if I can manage to reconcile my conscience surrounding the practices of factory farming, I think I can deal with this just fine. (Not that I have purchased any of these perfumes anyway, too rich for my blood.)
The content of your videos are extremely informative, esoteric and well-worth watching. Maybe think about creating content which a person could, “listen to at work without needing to watch.” Detox, -Cape Cod, Massachusetts 🇺🇸
important straight forward information on the subject. I had the opportunity in Bali to drink the highly prized Luwak coffee which is processed and derived from the Civet's poop...thanks guys for your insights on these unusual smells in one of your best vids
My first perfume purchase along with Eau Sauvage in the 80's was indeed Antaeus, it was an absolute bomb back then, I do still have the modern version but sadly it is a shadow of its former glory
Such a great video, I learned so much from this - will almost certainly watch it again (as there was so much to take in!). Like others on here I'm concerned about the animal welfare issues around some of these materials (notably civet) but I really appreciated the Wafts guys bringing these up and Matt presenting his experience in a very factual, non-partisan manner. This is the 2nd interview I've seen with Matt and he comes across really well. I shall definitely be checking some of his fragrances (perhaps the non civet ones!). Thanks again guys!
15:22 That'll crick your neck!! 😄😄 Plus that's probably the first time I've ever heard 'civet' and 'foreskin' used in the same sentence! Particularly enjoyed Matthew's thoughts on the difficulties concerning the definition of ethical living in rural areas. Being from Ontario myself, I've had first hand experience with what he's talking about. Never tried castoreum in vanilla ice cream though! A fantastic video guys.
