Sadly it's imposable now for the Ocean dub cast of the DBZ doing a redub for the movies because Kirby Morrow AKA Son Goku's voice actor just passed away a month ago
As a United States Marine, I can confirm that we can sound as dumb as that dub portrays us. All it's missing is a philosophical debate on the virtues of which color crayon tastes the best... (Hint: It's always the red ones) Also, as a Texan, I have always enjoyed hearing a "Southern Accent" in my Chinese cartoons. If done right,, it's an easy way to help distinguish between characters. A good example could be ChuChu from Show by Rock!!! It wasn't instantly obvious from her character's introduction, but as the show went on, her southern drawl came out more often and even used Southern colloquials like "Sugah" and "Y'all". A potentially bad example could be the old English dub of Sailor Moon. Anyone who's seen it can INSTANTLY recall "Molly" or "Melvin's" voice. I didn't mind them, but it's a counter point I'd be remiss in pointing out.
@@sittingcrowd912 yeah, of course they wouldn’t, because they’re not the only dubbing company and service only North America and some of Europe. They don’t license out in Oceania (Aussie/NZ namely)
My feminist sister actually like that show. She liked that that women were incharge of their bodies and buisnesses. She also agreed with me that the show explored secret thoughts people often have about how sex would work in a fantasy setting. However, she didnt like the review aspect of the show though.
@@itsblitz4437 if i remember correctly ghost stories was such a flop in japan that by the time the series was getting a dub the Japanese studio that animated ghost stories just told them to do whatever the hell they want, so no i disagree with your disagreement
About comedic dub enhancing final product, isn't it a case with Samurai Pizza Cats? The dub is very well liked, but from what I have read, they had to invent entire dub from scratch, because they didn't get Japanese transcripts, only audio.
Yup, haven’t seen Samurai Pizza Cats yet but that’s the general gist from what I understand. Not sure how people would react to a normal uncut dub of it or if the magic could be recaptured twice tbh
I think the accents on the americans in Zipang sound alright. People in the military come from all over the place so it makes sense to have accents. Also they make me laugh.
Looking forward to the video on Cardcaptor Sakura because a property that well loved needs a properly done dub. On one hand we have a dub that removes any and all elements of gay and on the other hand we have one where Tomoyo sounds like Ralph Wiggum. No, really, she sounds like Ralph Wiggum in the Animax dub. Go watch the first couple episodes. You will not be able to unhear it.
That's because Animax is a trash studio. They literally have not had a single dub worth watching that another company didn't do better. Even Cardcaptor for all its edits and honestly ruining of the romantic aspect of the show, was a far superior dub
@@antiwufei553 South Park exists. Be gratefull that people took time out of their lives to make the Ghost Stories, now you can't even make Shiel Hero with ought an angry mob.
I thought the accents in Princess Principal where for the most part good. There maybe some better ones, but they have the advantage of having some British Expats.
I probably would have subbed out Ancient Magus Bride for something else at first glance, but I do think its inclusion brings up an interesting point. Even without the accents, I think its still a good dub, and I thought the casting was pretty spot-on (relative newbies, lead actors that typically don't get lead roles, etc...). I think the choice of accents is simply up to the director's discretion on how comfortable they are with them (and maybe Kyle Phillips wasn't, compared to someone like say, Caitlin Glass)? I actually forgot the whole "Chise singing in Japanese" thing wasn't a stylistic choice instead of a mandate. I thought it was kind of cool and made complete sense that her lullaby from childhood she sings to Elias would be something in her first language (Japanese), and not English. I do wonder how the dub would sound if given to a director who *would* use accents, but I'd rather have no accents than terrible ones. And considering 90% of the cast would have some type of accent/regional speech pattern, that could have easily happened. That being said, a UK dub (or at least a studio that hires UK actors more often) would have been really cool as well, and I hope that's something we see outside of niche stuff like the Emma kickstarter. As far as dubs I would like to see re-done... maybe Perfect Blue? Even the acting + casting choices aside (not all of it is bad, maybe a bit dated), the sound quality is downright awful. I also wish the Trust & Betrayal OVA had a better dub, but I dunno about anyone touching that property right now. Its tough. I find it much easier to think of shows/movies that need a dub period.
Here’s the thing with the British accent, it was never a thing until the 1800’s during Queen Victoria’s reign. So if your setting is in the Industrial Age Britain like In “Moriarty the Patriot” then it’s understandable. But before that time pre-industriation, having none British accents can technically be accurate to the story it takes place in.
Personally, I think Anime series that never finished their Dubs (Ex: Super GALS, Familiar of Zero, Megaman Starforce, etc.) should get re-dubbed. If just for Non-Japanese speakers such as myself.
I actually got Steven Foster to watch my Pani Poni Dash video and he liked it (save for the audio quality, but that's expected XD), and in a bit of a interesting note, he considered removing Himeko's iconic verbal tics. Yeah. But luckily, Brittney Karbowski's performance was good enough to convince him to keeping said tics. A Pani Poni Dash with no "Maho~!". Imagine an alternate universe if that happened.
The Maho's were Brittany Karbowski's favorite parts. I remember getting one of the PPD DVDs signed by her back around 2013 or so, and she said Himeko was easily one of her favorite characters to act just because of the Maho's.
I still to this campaign for Crunchyroll or WHOEVER has the goddamn rights to get the Ocean team back to dub the rest of the Gintama anime including reducing those first 49. I also said this last video, but as unpopular as this opinion is I can live without the majority of the hack dubs not being redubbed mainly because the ones I grew up on I have a close connection to. The only ones I would want are Rave Master and to a lesser extent Shaman King. Rave Master because I want to read the manga and then watch how the anime adapted it like it originally was. Shaman King I'm okay with just because at the very least we're getting the remake which (hopefully) will get dubbed, and obviously is gonna be uncut.
@@lalalarose8197 I don't know if you're referring to me wanting Gintama dubbed or being okay without Uncut dubs for most hack dubs but either way no I'm not joking
I had a disdain for the Gintama dub. I feel like for a show like Gintama to work you'd have to make localisation changes as well as some heavy script changes. Some shows just don't need a dub and Gintama is one of them
@@MasikoY Well that's your opinion, and it's an understandable one. I watched it, laughed my ass off, and had a good time. I wanna watch more of it in that dub because I grew a connection to it. I'm not gonna tell you the Gintama dub is better, just that I liked it and would rather watch it that way.
Here's a hot take for you all, with the exception of Sabat as Piccolo, I actually prefer the Canadian cast to the Funimation cast for the characters that were introduced at the time. We can keep Laura Bailey as Trunks, because Laura Bailey. **Harp music, sparkles**
I feel like I'm being heard. I spoke about the UK getting more anime roles is needed. There's more than just American accents, and it just doesn't feel the same for me. When the UK is allowed to dub anime, they do a great job. Just look at all the Ghibli dubs. See Arrietty in the UK and its way better than the American one.
I'm american, but I feel like that in general, european dubs are more respectful to the original work. Since America is the center of the world apparently, american dubs tend to americanize concepts more often.
You’re referring to Peter Kalamis, who was the second Canadian voice actor for Adult Goku in Dragon Ball Z. And yeah, he was also the voice of Rolf in Ed, Edd n Eddy.
The only problem I see with a real Ghost Stories dub is that the joke one is considered to be so good for what it is that I just don't see there being much demand for it.
I feel dragon ball z dub in latin american is soo good, the voices are so iconic and for example: the voice of goku is more mature, for the serious moments. vegeta's voice created a joke amongst the series to say "maldito insecto" (damn insect) as a pretty iconic line, tho I guess it would be hard to analyze since its in spanish
One of my favorite lines from Dragon Ball Z's Latin American Spanish dub is from the Cell Saga when Vegeta complains about cell copying his lines. I think Vegeta said something like "Maldito, no solo copió mis células, sino también mis diálogos" (Curse him, not only he copied my cells, but also my phrases)
Ngl, I disagree with the idea of redubbibg the dbz movies for the most part. What would be nice is to include a sh*t ton of as many language tracks as is available including the speedy and oceans dub for the earlier movies both for the lols and for performances. But yo that lord slug needle drop when Goku went false ssj for the dub is the best thing. Period (On God!)
12:22 There was also Samurai Pizza Cats which apparently Saban didn't have the script for or something but I really do NOT trust the source of that info and it doesn't really make much sense in my eyes to begin with, it was Saban's job to translate it in the first place, why would they need the script for that when they could do it by ear?
Thank you for mentioning the Canadian Dragon Ball Z cast! I would love to hear more of Scott McNeil and Brian Drummond in the movies, or any other Dragon Ball material for that matter. Also, for clarification: The first three Z movies were actually Pioneer's doing. Those three dubs (which were actually all uncut) had very little to do with Saban, even Funimation were more hands-off with them as they were fully produced by Pioneer, hence the more faithful approach to music and script. The original TV version of Tree of Might on the other hand (with censorship, Saban music and Ian Corlett as Goku) was a different version altogether and was more of a Funimation/Saban production like the series, although Saban's role was mostly facilitating airtime and providing musical scores. Long story short; The TV Ocean dub of Tree of Might is completely separate from the uncut Pioneer Ocean dub despite both having the Canadian cast. The uncut Ocean versions only exist on the old Pioneer DVD sets, even Funimation didn't re-release them on their Rock the Dragon collectors set.
I’ve got to say on the topic of accents, it seems odd but in the context of being a dub makes a lot of sense to generally use accents that give off the vibe that the original language production does.
Dragon Ball Z Kai and Super needs a Ocean Dub! and When it comes to that certain arc during the filler of Super... Chris Sabat needs to voice a certain purple Vegeta.
Actually, an Ocean dub of Kai does exist! And... It’s currently in limbo as to whether it will actually release or not. That doesn’t mean it’s not complete. Au contraire! Although it doesn’t cover the Boo arc (since the dub started production in 2010, before The Final Chapters were even a thing), the original Kai has been dubbed by Ocean Productions in Canada, fully completed since between 2012 & 2014, and now it’s just a matter of trying to get a Canadian channel to actually air the damn thing.
@@Azelf89 I don't count it tell I can actually watch it somewhere. So if it ever does, then I'll care. Though, I'm not sure if the UK region broadcast rights for DBZKai and Super were ever got by a company? Or whatever the term I'm looking for is, because it's not like their old dub hadn't aired in UK as well, so it's possible for them to score a place there for that. Also... thinking about it would love just more language dubs, more portrayals of characters is just something that I love to watch, I know that DB has just spoilt me on this though. Not much financial point to doing this, but would love to see a Irish Dub of Dragon Ball... or any anime. Might have more kids interested in the language while they're young. Dying language and all.
@@deterlanglytone Both Kai and Super aired on UK TV with Funimation's dub. Those channels are now owned by Sony, so it's unlikely they'd ever air Ocean's.
@@IMissBionix Good point! Forgot about Kix. Though that channel is gone now, at least I can't find it on the tv, edit: Also what channel did Super air on? I never saw it. So I don't see much room for Sony stopping them, but you never know. Without going into too much political stuff, given the UK is leaving the EU region, meaning that for the first time ROI and British tv broadcast regions are going to be separated. That are a few channels that are going to be removed, could be room for new agreements there. But it's unlikely given Sony's reach. This does explain why Sony's Movie channel shows anime films at times, hadn't recalled their ownership of Funi somehow.
3:03 Don't play PSO2 with the English audio lest you be cursed with Afin's Britstralian accent. (which his sister notably doesn't have and really none of them should even have, I think the only reason they even tried to give him a British accent is because he calls the player character "Aibou" in Japanese which they translated as "mate" but why didn't they go with "partner" or "buddy"? At least Peitro having a French accent makes sense given his name, changing "mai furendo" to "mon ami")
22:29 In PSO2 some of the idol NPC, Quna's songs are accurate to the Japanese version which leads to awkward note holds in place of awkward pauses even though the lip sync was never a priority being that it's a video game, let alone one with a budget localization. (and that budget localization is a _massive_ disservice to one of the biggest online games in Japan alongside FFXIV and Dragon Quest X and the worst part is that there apparently was still crunch involved if an out of context tweet from one of the people who worked on the localization is any indicator, which for a localization that was eight years late is definitely something that goes beyond how bad Cyberpunk 2077's crunch was and is closer to Duke Nukem Forever)
@@crysler2046 the voice acting is literally god tier, when compared to the japanese dub. i mean, two words is all you need to know about it to know its bad. "granny goku" case closed. english dub is FAR SUPERIOR to japanese dub.
@@stapuft first off the dub has cringy lines I mean what the heck is “Ally to good; nightmare to you” it’s an objective fact that the Kai dub is leaps ahead of the 90’s dub with all its script changes and accuracies also I like how people like you always talk about “granny Goku” yet don’t talk about other characters it’s so predictable I haven’t once spoke to a dub watcher who hadn’t said “grandma Goku”. I’d also like to ask you if you’ve even seen the Japanese version or have you just seen some RU-vid videos?
I don't know if this is likely but I would love to see a redub of the 1995 film, _Totsuzen! Neko no Kuni Banipal Witt (Catnapped!)._ Currently, the film hasn't been relicensed and released anywhere after Pioneer/Geneon went out of business with its last home video solicitation dating back in January 2004, and I hardly see anyone talk about this film, but if the film does get relicensed either by Discotek Media, Netflix, or GKIDS I wouldn't mind seeing a new redub version of this film with a better script and voice acting, but I would like the Geneon dub to be featured as an extra audio track if Discotek Media or GKIDS license the film.
@@TheSlipperyNUwUdle Honestly that's why I love them. Especially in the case of Prince Soma. He didn't say anything generally offensive. I honestly think it was a good choice.
@@TheZprogram to each their own. Lol I guess i just wasn’t a fan. Especially because some of them you could really tell weren’t well skilled in speaking in accents. I hate Monica Rial’s accent. It was so awful. Edit: that in the fact the original cast was just so superb. I don’t think the original cast could be more perfect.
There is a difference between regional dialects and foreign accents. I actually do NOT want Italian and French Accents in English Dubs of shows set in those countries because what foreign communicates is people NOT speaking their native language. The only time there has ever been a Japanese Accent in an Anime Dub was Princess Principal where it was communicating exactly what it as meant to. Before Princess Principal and Azure Lane I was very iffy on the concept of Dub actors trying British Accents, but those shows proves they can do it. I don't mind BAD German Accents when they're Nazis, Nazis should sound stupid. Oh so Rebecca's too old to play RIka but your fine with for Kid Goku bringing back the same person who voiced for an unreleased 80s Dub?
No need to worry, admittedly I wrote that bit about Rebecca w/o having seen all of the show so I didn’t understand that the character inevitably need an adult voice too. Rika’s a tricky character to voice and I guess seeing the dub actress’s age compared to the seiyuu coloured my impression of her performance. We’ll be more thorough in talking about the dub VAs for Higurashi once we do a full video on it >.< Interesting point about European accents too! When I wrote the bit about Arte I just kind of assumed an English dub might try Italian accents...even though a lot of English-language films set in various parts of Europe don’t use the accents either.
Or they could do like what is done with real actors and just get people with said accents. Dubs can be good if 1:you have the proper talent chosen and 2: you have competent writers.
Honestly I'd love to see a Hajime No Ippo re dub and a dub of the newer seasons, but I'd love them to keep the same actors. The og dub had a hanging with the boys vibe.
Honestly, there aren't that many anime's that come to mind when I think of re-dub. If anything I would like to see more kid bast anime's get a re-dub like most of Precure. It's no big deal, but it would be nice if they didn't cut so much and change things. Precure is being shown more in the west, but most people will likely think of the bad Saban dub. Just my thoughts.
Here in Latin America some dubs, especially those made in Mexico, sometimes include regional jokes, in some aspects they can be useful in the case of shows like The Simpsons where there're certain references that wouldn't make sense for us. Shows like Kids Next Door, Adventure Time, Cow & Chicken, Jhonny Bravo, Time Squad, Ed, Edd 'n Eddy, Top Cat and even anime like Pokémon and Komi-san had some added jokes in their Latin American Spanish dubs
@@russelldrake7553 that kind of reminds me what happened with the dub of an anime called "Dotto! Koni-chan", the series itself was directed by Shinichi Watanabe, who also directed Excel Saga, and the show itself is a comedy with a lot of weird Japanese humor. For some reason it got picked up in Latin American and it was given a dub, and since the show was so weird, the dubbing team rewrote the show adding a lot of Mexican humor, pop culture references and a lot of risqué jokes (which was weird, because I remember watching it during the daytime). The show and its dub gained a cult following in Latin America due to its humor
I think it's a good idea you're talking about this. I grew up with English dubs but it would be cool if some animation would be redubbed like Dragon Ball GT
BanG Dream Season 2 needs to be redubbed. No way a dub that bad can be produced in 2020. About half of the main characters were poorly cast. The dub was so controversial, one of the VAs (and she was one of the good voices in all of it) was harassed off Twitter. We need another studio besides Sentai Filmworks to dub the other seasons.
Would it be possible for you to talk about Teen Trunks Dub in the History of Trunks Special, and what you think about the new recasting of Alexis Tipton who usually voiced Kid Trunks in the Super dub, now voicing Teen Trunks in the History of Trunks scenes in the game instead of the original dub being Eric Vale both in the special and the super flashback. Which I can understand since techincally it makes sense, since it is "teen" trunks but from my understanding he is supposed to be like 18 in the special, but I would like to hear your guys thoughts on how it impacts the scene and its profoundness, as well as poking at the never ending Dragon Ball discussions lmao.
Not interested in the redubing and recasting of old DBZ movies especially with the OG Broly movie that pantera track mixed with that transformation still gives me chills if you want a more faithful score and performances watch the OG Japanese dub the old movies arent perfect but they are no where near as bad as it needing to be redubbed somethings should be left as a product of there time
Wait, what's wrong with the music choices in the DBZ movie dubs? Those are great songs, and really fit the movies tbh. Those movies are what made me get into metal.
i know its "not accurate" but I think the DBZ Super 13 movie is better dubbed, purely because the sub is just so boring. the dub gave 13 a personality, stereotypical it may be. but better than the sub did, which was nothing.
I commented on this in the last video, but Karin (Chibi Vampire) was dubbed in Hong Kong. I actually enjoyed that series and didn't find too much actually bad about the voices, but there were a few instances where the Chinese accents were slipping through. Mostly with Elda Maaka, Karin's grandmother. Karin herself was actually dubbed by an at-the-time 17 year old American actress, so the 15 year old Karin Marker had an appropriate voice. Karin's dad reminded me of James from Pokemon, and Winner was... odd. If you're familiar with this series, I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Forget the DBZ movies, the original DB TV series needs a redub much more to match up with Kai. Though a redub of Cooler would be great, I'll admit. Edit: Remember kids, always finish your videos before you comment. But yeah, GT could use a redub, too. I actually find the Blue Water dub to be pretty decent, though, with decent scripts and acting, so at least there's an alternative unlike with DB. So I still think DB needs it more. Yes, I know there's a BW dub for DB, but from what I've seen it's a step down from their GT dub, mainly in the scripting. Still better than Funi, but not better enough to be a great alternative IMO. Plus the preservations I've found are much lower quality than the GT preservations and are much less watchable as a result.
Although that said, Yugioh Duel Links has most of the 4kids Productions (which was a subsidiary of 4kids Entertainment that solely existed to dub Yugioh for some reason) voice cast but considering they're still being cast in the dubs at 4kids Productions, currently known as Konami Cross Media NY (and formerly 4K Media), that's _probably_ also not saying much.
24:00 US perspective in WWII Post pearl harbor, there was US hostility and racial animosity expressed not only in the military but generally the country. We had US concentration camps for any suspected US-Japanese supposed to be Japan-aligned, and several cartoons back in the day that were shown fighting the Axis of Evil countries, even some depictions as flagrant racist stereotypes. Such examples include the many black & white Looney Tune shorts, Popeye taking on Japan ships singlehandedly, and even Disney US war propaganda. There was A LOT of content to be watched...
The English dub of Lost Song from Netflix needs to be redub because of its songs that needs to be dubbed in English due to its characters and location but still a good dub.
The DBZ specials (Bardock & Trunks) really need the redub, they're easily the worst dubbed and haven't been revisited like the DBZ Uncut dub & Kai dub. I'd love the movies to get the redub but I doubt itd happen, and luckily only the worst Z movies have the worst dubs. Don't redub GT unless you can get Stephanie Nadolny, she's a perfect kid goku
