The Streaming Service MotorTrend+ is Shutting Down & Moving Subscribers to Discovery+ cordcuttersnews.com/the-streaming-service-motortrend-is-shutting-down-moving-subscribers-to-discovery/ ESPN, Fox, and Warner Bros. Discovery’s New Sports Streaming Service Will Have a Bundled Version With Max cordcuttersnews.com/espn-fox-and-warner-bros-discoverys-new-sports-streaming-service-will-have-bundled-version-with-max/ AT&T is Offering $5 Credits To Some Customers Impacted By Last Week’s Outage cordcuttersnews.com/att-is-offering-over-435-million-in-credits-to-some-customers-impacted-by-last-weeks-outage/ Paramount+ & Peacock Are Reportedly Merging & Sports Is Likely the Main Reason Behind the Merger cordcuttersnews.com/paramount-peacock-are-reportedly-merging-sports-is-likely-the-main-reason-behind-the-merger Millions of Americans Are Trapped into Paying for Cable TV & Can’t Cancel Even If They Want To cordcuttersnews.com/millions-of-americans-are-trapped-into-paying-for-cable-tv-cant-cancel-even-if-they-want-to/ A New Fire TV Update is Reportedly Breaking Some Apps cordcuttersnews.com/a-new-fire-tv-update-is-reportedly-breaking-some-apps/ Frndly TV Officially Rolls Out its New App with an Updated Home Screen to More Devices cordcuttersnews.com/frndly-tv-rolls-out-its-new-app-with-an-updated-home-screen-to-more-devices/
They all might as well just put back the cord because it appears that they are all combining and the prices are getting higher, while the cables were. They don't want you to share your password with your kids in college but they want to keep adding all these high prices like the cable companies use to be, They need to stop price hiking your streaming service before people find something that they can watch free like Pluto.
actually Yes. I've been trying tell people this for at least 5 years now that this was gonna happen because the fracturing of these services just wasn't sustainable. The advantage Cable had over the dozens of streaming services is everything was basically in 1 place.
If they push prices too high they just spawn piracy. We are at the tail end of a golden age where everybody was producing loads of content chasing financial mirages of huge profitability. Now that those mirages are evaporating, content creation will slow (or concentrate on cheapo garbage like that seen on little-watched cable channels for many years). It was nice while it lasted.
I was a programmer and network administrator during my career. It's possible that an update caused the AT&T outage. But, it's also possible that something else caused it that AT&T will never want made public. The most important thing that you want in cell phone service is reliability. What is it worth to AT&T to keep it's customers? I'm betting it's more than $5.00 a shot.
As far as Motor Trend shutting down, it wasn’t to smart of an idea in the first place to have a paid streaming service when there are so many free options on RU-vid. You have everything from the old school Motor Week to TFL and a bunch of channels in between that cover all kinds of vehicles from the classic to the exotic. Having a dedicated paid service was just dumb.
I use an old-fashioned TV antenna on my roof. I get over 100 channels with it. All for no monthly fees. Plus I get all the scripted nfl games as well that are in my market.
I was spending $240 a MONTH with Crimecast for ONE tv in one room + cable + internet + landlines. Constant fees and price increases. I now have T-mobile 5g home internet and RU-vid TV.
@@RoastBeefSandwich My internet comes through the landline phone. So I wouldn't get internet otherwise. I don't use a cellphone, but if I did, it wouldn't help that much. People in my area get 3G, sometimes 4G, but no 5G at all. We would need a lot more cell towers and antennas.
I keep picking up channels and dropping them a month later after I binge. Apple is killing it. The rest of them kinda suck, except for Feud on Hulu. And what happened to intelligent science fiction? Everything now is either a post apocalyptic earth populated by 15-year-olds or space monsters. How about some more shows like The Expanse and Altered Carbon? I waste so much money!
There are too many of them, so the money is spread too thin. Someone else in the comments said that we're going to end up with three big steaming services, just like the current cable companies and I tend to agree. All the smaller ones are going to either disappear or merge into the bigger ones.
I was thinking the same thing and I suspect they don't feel that streaming isn't "profitable enough" which is different than being not profitable. Hollywood has literally taken control of the streaming industry (and cable industry as well). They have made such a large profit in production (movies, TV especially in the case of syndication) that they expected big time profits. I don't think Netflix operated under the big huge profit margin that Max, Hulu and others believed, they were more interested in obtaining TV shows and movies that subscribers would enjoy and offering them as a service that could maintain a profitable subscription rate. For example Friends cost well over a million dollars per episode by the end of the production, but they was okay with that cost knowing that they could made more money from each episode in syndication than they made in first run. Netflix paid a standard rate for each year they had it available, regardless of how many times it was watched and Netflix valued it as a "this % of our subscribers watch the series and if we loose it we risk this % of viewers leaving the service.
You’re correct, it’s not sustainable and they are raising prices and cutting investment in content. They are tiring of losing so much money. I read that actors are having problems finding work since the strike ended. So the business is being rationalized. Some are shutting down and others will merge. More bundles and price increases and we are back where cable tv was. The golden age of streaming has peaked where you got loads of great content for a low monthly price.
I’m getting tired of all the fees for these streaming services. I have Philo and I watch RU-vid for free, and Netflix , but considering getting rid of that too. We were paying $160 for cable. If all these streaming services add up to more than $59, I’m out. If I want to watch sports , I’ll wait to stream it later or go to someone’s house. I still have a dvd player if I want to watch a movie now and then. And Philo lets you save movies for free!
I think it should be illegal to make people pay for any services just to keep a company alive. People should not have to pay for cable or any streaming service as part of rent or a HOA etc unless they choose to. I live in an apartment and as far as cable goes Spectrum is the only service I can have. I am not force to pay for it however, I can't call anyone else if I want cable. This was true until 4 or 5 months ago with internet service as well then T-Mobile came in with TMHI.
Its more of a 'legacy' situation from back when cable TV was the only option, and HOA's in areas with multiple cable providers didn't want to have wires running all over the buildings. Back then a cable company could bid low to get their cable system installed, then slowly jack up the price.
AT&T offered this five dollar credit per account, but secretly also introduced new more expensive plans that increase each lines cost by one dollar per month in perpetuity. Existing customers are being migrated to the higher plans automatically. Scummy
With Max adding all this extra content, it really becomes a giant mess. I bought Max for HBO. With all this extra content from Discovery plus rolled into Max, it makes it very difficult to ONLY see new content from HBO. It's a giant mess.
I bought Max for Turner classic movies. The fact that I get the West Wing and newsroom thrown in for free or included with that price just makes me happy.
Several decades of TV commercials and they believe they can make people pay instead. The hassle of more bills, even if you're willing to pay! Commercials on RU-vid are usually subpar to TV, for no reason. TV streaming services don't put in commercials advertising their other movies and TV shows, which TV networks have always found profitable. They ain't thought it all out and ain't trying otherwise....
Some people just don't have the money. If RU-vid itself ever started charging then there would be a lot of people lessoning to the radio and eventually chucking there TV. There might be a lot like when people started dumping there old picture tube TVs. As long as they don't start charging for Pluto TV. Like I just said there's a lot of people that can barely afford food. If they have to pick between food and a streaming service guess what one will win.? 🤔
It wouldn't be from at&t if you did get one, at&t does own consumer cellular, I have Cricket, which is owned by at&t, and they already said that Cricket customers are not getting the $5, I don't care, I pay $125 a month for 5 lines, and years ago my at&t bill used to run $250 to $300 a month for 4 phones, it was always changing depending on how much data my daughter went over, never have paid over $125 for Cricket since I switched 8 or 9 years ago, and the kids say they never noticed the change in service, they're living on their own now, but I still pay the phone bill since it's so small.
Question for Luke. With Formula 1 starting this weekend, I've had F1 TV since it started in 2018. I didn't have ESPN, so this was the way for me to get my F1 fix. Do you see any other major sport going stand alone? Yes, there is NFL Sunday Ticket, but you have to get RU-vid TV to get it. Do you think they will ever offer it stand alone? The same goes for MLB, NBA, NHL, NASCAR, etc.
Luke, thanks for answering my question today of who allowed the hidden fees to be added in the first place and why. You answered most of what I wanted to know.😊
I still think all freevee originals will get moved over exclusively to Amazon Prime Video eventually. Then it will become a watered down Pluto TV until not many people get upset when it's shut down (probably late 2024 or early 2025). It would be nice to be wrong, but streaming seems to have entered its cost cutting/consolidation phase.
My condo in Charlotte when I moved there included a pretty basic cable package in its fees and I had to pay extra for internet.. In a couple of years, they rolled the internet into package for no extra cost so I actually saved money by not having to buy for internet on my own. The cable TV portion did include HBO...
I rent in a gated community. The HOA bundled with Xfinity. It added $60 to the HOA fee which the landlord wanted me to pay. It was a win win for me. Now I pay $60 plus some added bonuses instead of $130. I think the downside is some senior citizens don’t watch as much as my wife and I. We’re both 78 years old.
QUESTION for Luke:- Do you think there are too many streaming apps chasing viewer's. The streaming app market has been saturated with lots of streaming apps in the last 5 or 6 years. Do you think this is the reason why a lot of streaming apps are shutting down or merging. Too many apps chasing too few customers/viewer's?
It's just like how the cable networks went through a few decades ago. For example, A&E was the result of the merger Arts and the Entertainment Channel.
@@fsb5370it is different because all those tv channels were all available from one or two cable providers in an area. all these separate streaming providers are like paying for each tv channel separately. I'm glad they are starting to merge again.
I think the biggest reason most of these will die especially the free ad supported ones is that 90% of the content on them is exactly the same there really is little difference in terms of content between them
Just turned in my box today (i.e., finally cut the cord). Don't watch TV at all so should have done this a year ago (when the last episode of the show I had watched or nearly 9 years ended). :)
Congrats!!! Did the same last month. I should have cut years ago. There are free streaming (Plex/Pluto/Tubi). Should be enough for me and got a OTA antenna (I get like 60+ channels) as well. Feels great only paying for internet. I do have a 1.2TB cap unfortunately so can't stream all day. Stay strong and takes about a month to adjust.
I didn't cut the cord on cable back in 2012, when I got my first Roku, in order to waste money on streaming services. I'd bet there are people out there spending as much for streaming as they did for cable. I have two cell phones (TMobile), pay $70. a month, which covers all I need for phone, internet (hotspot, never been throttled), and TV. A landline where I live costs more than that, if you want long distance too.
My family lives in an area where they have no choice as for watching TV with cable. It is not because of HOA or apartment complexes have contracts, it is because Fios isn't allowed in there area and the satellite company comes in pretty choppy without poor weather conditions. 5G networks are very low going into the area so again cable company is needed for internet and telephone.
Management, should not be blocking great Google fiber $70 monthly, cable Comcast is allowed monopoly here 😢! Depending on speed $50‐$150 monthly 😮 ,I asked Google to install, here, MANAGEMENT SAID CAN'T, BS FAMILY MEMBERS IN HOUSE GOT GROUND FIBER TO THE HOUSE FREE!! JUST REQUEST!
What I'm interested in the new sports streaming service is to be able to get live stream of WABC in NYC! I live in Suffolk County on Long Island & my antenna can't pick up WABC nor ABC affiliate WTNH from New Haven Connecticut! But I can pick up WCBS & WNBC & Fox station WNYW with my antenna!
I moved from the NYS Catskills/Hudson Valley NY to Norwalk CT 4 years ago this November. Living here in the apartment complex didn’t give us much choice….the majority were Frontier….I went with Optimum due to was formerly known as Cablevision which was Spectrum which is what I had back in the Hudson Valley. The 2nd reason I went w/ Optimum was that Frontier was way more expensive.
Do the math. $127.00 a month x 30 days= $4.23 a day x 24 hours = $.18 cents an hour. Outage equaled, let's say 12 hours x $.18 = $2.16 Take the $5 and be happy.
How were you harmed? They could have just said "too bad, so sad". AT&T did the right thing. TBH, I was not affected and don't really care if I get a credit.
My appointment complex use to include cable tv with my rent, but 3 years ago they installed antenna’s on every unit and gave us the option either pay for cable ourselves or use the antenna, I think I have a better picture with the antenna than cable, but my only complaint is I don’t get a strong enough signal to get a over the air dvr to work.
I’ve been using a little antenna in my window with a Tablo OTA DVR for several years. I’m in a big city and signal strength is mostly good except I can’t get our local ABC channel. Definitely a better picture than cable. I supplement with some streaming, but not any of the big expensive services. I’m happy with my system, but I’m not a big TV watcher and don’t watch sports, so I know my setup wouldn’t work for many.
@@shanedewey8785 don't try a network dvr, use one of the ones that plug into your hdmi, no internet needed, they work like the old vcr's except without a cassette tape, the signal should be the same going into a dvr tuner as it does to a tv tuner, it does not care what it's hooked up to.
What about streaming services that you pay a monthly fee, then to watch certain shows you have to rent or buy them? In other words, you have to pay extra just to watch certain shows.
Cable fees baked into HOA and apartments should be an option. This should be a law it's unfair to force people into paying for something they may not want, I don't want someone else choosing and or negotiating my content packages.
If a deal is offered to you, too good to pass up. I would never be able to afford a standalone cable account. Much better if its a corporate account paid by the place I live.
Question for Luke: In response to the new sporting package from ESPN and FOX, do you see RU-vid TV or other streaming services opting to get rights to air sporting events directly?
That's an interesting question. Fascinating scenario where RU-vid TV has exclusive rights to a game and people who have cable or another service have to pay the $73 for RU-vid TV (on top of their cable/other subscription) to watch a single game or season. Or, do they have a lower tier (almost like a pay-per-view) for single games/seasons? Had never even considered that could be a possibility.
@@bennym1956 I used to todo that. I would just get more ads and often get malware. no thanks. I use an OTA antenna and Tablo DVR to watch sports on the local channels. I subscribe to the MLB pkg for years, which I can watch on Firestick, phone and computers. Also, if you do pay for apps, most have exclusive sports available on them, too. I'm missing ESPN, ESPN2 and reg Fox sports channels. Those should all be part of the new sports pack this fall. I'll just have to wait to see exactly what you get and whether it will be worth it for me.
Seems there is chaos in the entire industry both content creators and content providers. The cable companies are charging too much money . Is it out of greed? Now we are dealing with content creators switching to streaming services and they too are raising their prices. I wonder if the entire system is sustainable. I don’t care , I watch tv about 1 hour a week.
I'd rather have the CBS and NBC included in the price with commercials, and not have to pay for ad-free just to get the live local affiliates, which still have ads anyway. That kind of defeats the purpose of the ad-free tier.
Comcast/Xfinity have a monopoly in sections of our city & not till late last year were we able to finally get T Mobile internet. Before that Century link a block away told us only thing they could provide was a landline. So HOA & renters are not the only ones stuck.This happens all over the US. They sign contracts with cities all over the country. We can't use OTA because we live under a flight path. Reception drops every 30 seconds. 😢 We bought the house before airport expanded and they lied.
It’s similar here with cable cause spectrum cable is all we are allowed to use since I was a child in the 90’s it was satellite or time Warner as spectrum was called then so we still have our subscription now mainly cause it allows us to have max free
@bg1jh I have news for you, anywhere you move can fall victim to an airport. Just take a quick look at any of the flight apps. My friend did just that, sold her house and purchased somewhere else thinking she was good to go. She could not be too far from her family in Seattle, she moved to Auburn which is nowhere close to SEATAC and now has a flight path over her house and can't even use her backyard or deck. Airports are always expanding and they constantly lie to cities and get away with it. I have lost count of how many class actions are out there against airports and judges routinely drop them. $$$$$$$$ wins over people's rights. To add insult to injury, Delta now lowers wheels over us dropping gear oil over everything. They have ruined 3 outdoor deck umbrellas and furniture with their nasty oil. Who knows what that is doing to soil, water...wildlife? Every other airline comes in with wheels lowered already. We have contacted the FAA and they do nothing. Another $old out useless fake entity.
@bg1jh No clue what happened to my reply. My good friend did just that. She moved far from the airport and now there is another flight path over her house and she can't enjoy her deck or backyard. We've gone to a slew of meetings with the airport and all they do is lie. Now Delta is lowering wheels over us and dropping gear oil over everything. I have gone through 3 deck umbrellas so far. I have tried contacting FAA. They do nothing. If you take a few moments to check the flight apps you can see what the airlines are doing to the country. They don't care. Its all about the $. If you don't have planes flying over you, consider yourself lucky but don't bet that at some point an airport will add more flight paths like they have done here and ruin your property.
I WOULD love Peacock & Paramount be in one , i have Both of them for years AD FREE.. would be nice all in one BUT i really wish & loved WB bought the Paramount & WB leave the Discovery behind & they open up thire own streaming service together , that would be F*N GREAT, i would be the first to Subscribe 👍
The issues with streaming services today remind me of a conversation I had with a local broadcaster(OTA), about a decade ago. The main issue, is that the streaming business model is contrary to most business models. Where the more successful one is (in terms of viewership), the more it will cost the platform in the form of bandwidth. This is not even considering that many of these platforms have went into debt in order to obtain more content(ie buying other collections or creating new content). Where as for an OTA TV station, the startup costs is a lot higher, but the costs are fixed/predictable.
Actually none of that is why they are going broke. What happened is basically the exact same thing that’s going on in the auto industry, they expected the good times to keep on rolling & didn’t have foresight enough to see the boom was VERY temporary. What they did was stop selling their content libraries whine at the same time spending money on original content. The simple fact is Hollywood has ALWAYS made more money on selling rights to their libraries than actually making the product itself. However you probably had some younger executives thinking the old way was outdated & instead of updating to fit streaming they tried to reinvent the wheel so to speak. Things like having the servers is a zero net cost much like a brick and mortar building would be, meaning it’s just the cost of business and you don’t expect to make any money off of it. However when you go billions in debt trying to produce a product, sell it to a consumer AND compete with other services that’s where you lose money. This is exactly why a service like Netflix will be okay because they have cutback on producing new shows and at the same time buying the rights to content from the companies that realized the old way was better.
Cord cutting is so very frustrating for me as I/2 of my monthly cable bill is for high speed internet. That leaves only the other half of my bill to be used to select alternative streaming services which limits my choices dollar wise. I sure wish that there were more choices for reliable high speed internet as I only have one option/provider in my area. Monopolies are not price negotiable.
The community I had a home built at had cable and fiber internet included in the HOA. Then CenturyLink shut down the cable business (kept the internet) forcing us into streaming. The cost we pay to stream equivalent service doubled or tripled depending on the cable replacement you went with.
Its ironic that paramount was the first to pull out of HULU which originally was a partnership between all the major studios is now looking to start a partnership with another studio
Simi Valley, CA - city is building a Fiber network. My apartment building owned by Avalon has a deal with spectrum and they are not even allowing the construction of the fiber network into the property.
Motor Trend was never going to work. They didn't have a major live motorsports hook. All they had was a library of existing shows and it just can't last forever before they run out of new content. The new shows being made just don't have the output needed to keep the library fresh. If all you are is a content library, do you need to be a separate service? I don't think so.
I never checked it out. You're Right, and the number of FREE RU-vid videos out there about cars is huge. They review cars, show you how to do things and so much more. Sit through a short commercial and that's it. Some of the car video producers do an outstanding job.
Luke: I don’t know if I will get the $5 credit from AT&T or not as we have fiber optic & could still use our Apple phones. Not sure if our U-verse landline was affected or not.
I think that a rental apartment that requires you to pay for cable is much different than an HOA that requires it. It is much simpler to move out of an apartment you rent than to sell your house. That requirement might also affect the price you could get for your home. I would think that many HOAs will eliminate that requirement as their contracts with cable companies expire or the members of those HOAs will run for the board on a promise of eliminating such requirements. Apartment buildings might also terminate their deals with cable companies as including cable TV as part of their rent is no longer considered a perk to tenants.
I've lived in communities with HOA fees most of my life. The fees are used for commonly maintained amenities, whether you use them or not. For example, my condo building has an indoor swimming pool that I never use, but still pay for indirectly. We don't have a cable deal, but as long as the HOA doesn't charge a separate fee for cable, it falls into the same category as any amenity in my mind. BTW, if you don't want your community to include cable as one of its amenities, you can always lobby the Board not to renew the contract the next time it comes up. Doing away with an indoor pool is much harder ;-).
What always bugged me about cable is that when I call to add service, they claim they can't tell me what my monthly bill will be. Yet they bill me "accurately" just fine.
@@Banzai51 Interesting. Now when Spectrum was Time Warner Cable yeah we had issues with hidden crap but when Spectrum took over it wasn't much of an issue
@@NormanF62 yep me too. the sales people get so confused with me. like cable internet, but it is X amount for 3 months. But I ask what is it after that? and what is the total bill going to come to with taxes and the fees. they just go silent.
I had an AT&T cellphone back about 2010; lots of dropped calls and "no service" spots around where I live. I don't know anyone who's an AT&T phone customer these days. Paramount/Peacock Bundled Service - How would that work if the owners of Paramount are trying to sell it? (the multi-billion-dollar Byron Allen deal. Cable TV in Apartment Complexes and HOA - I had that situation back in the 1990s, it was an option, a sole provider, but no required payment. I just used an OTA antenna at that time; I was on the top floor of my HOA building and snuck an antenna into the attic. 😎 Unless the new owner(s) shimmied up into the attic and removed it the antenna is probably still there.
Where I live NOW, in this GOD-AWFUL wilderness, I CAN'T get ANY antenna to pick up even ONE channel!!! I'm VERY LOW INCOME, cable/streaming is NOT an option in MY case ... GRRRRRRRR!!!
Luke: re my comment re my FireStick 4K Max 2nd gen still having ABD Debugging that was incorrect. It’s not available with OS 8.03 update. Another FireStick with OS 07 has disabled ABD Bugging. I have one 4K Max 2nd gen which has not been updated to 8.03 so will✅ it & advise. My onn, Kinhank G1 & TiVo still have ABD Debugging enabled & allowed TDUK App Killer to be installed while 2 Fire Stick have not. You get Not available when you buy this item. Thanks
My mom will have to pay Internet fees next year when she doesn’t even use it. I am against HOA’s or apartment complexes that force people to pay for cable or internet. Sounds like cable TV companies are trying to grasp the last thing they can… People who can’t get away without moving.
It is time to have Streaming service with local stations like NBC and Fox... everything U see on smart TV s...I think the problem whatever it is...They need to add NBC and Fox etc ..we should not have the reason to use old technology like antenna or cable in this day and age...they need to end the reason to pay for TV...we had free TV since the beginning of the 1920s...lets call for the end of the reason to pay for TV 😮😢😮😢😮...Dish Direct and cable please shout 👇 down..!!!
We tried cutting the chord. Just a big disappointment. If you only watch specialty tv then it's fine. But something as simple as networks that are displayed quickly, clearly and without any glitches or buffering and play in real-time just didn't happen for us. Back to satellite TV programming for network TV and sports and then Netflix and free Roku for everything else. Doing it this way is far cheaper than subscribing to the likes of RU-vid TV ( very expensive) and then adding specific services. It turned out to be a joke.
When you pay only $50/month, and the service is out for 1/2 day, you are entitled to less than $1 refund. Don't expect a free month (or more) for a blip in service. Good Lord, people love to complain.
I am for any sports, merging, rolling together, or whatever else you want to call it. It allows me to watch the Pittsburgh Steelers in Chicago. I hate the Bears I always have, but I love the Pittsburgh Steelers and if I could watch them every Sunday, I would be willing to pay for it, not NFL ticket prices either.
Regular day 0-20 miles Regular week -40 miles I have a surgeon that is 101 miles away each way, I have a few doctors ~35 miles away, and my PCP is 14 miles away Visits to UPenn doctors are rare, but I’m good with my Bolt EUV and stopping at a Volta charger at a Giant at worst. The current, or now past, Bolt was more than adequate