Although I've never done much in depth studies on the matter, I've always thought there were small groups/ clans other than the the 2 main ones. My view from back in the early 90s was that ninja started out as a sort of freedom fight for there village, there skills became so good, that they eventually hired themselves out over time. That was my take on it back then. Thanks for the indepth studying you have been doing so we all are able to have a better understanding of the subject.
I almost feel like Stephen Hayes has bought into the Ninja boom, and Ninja boom information so much, that he really can't let it go for some reason. Even though legitimate academics and researchers on the subject including Mie University come out with information that conflicts with a good portion of the X-kan information, and the stereotypes that are portrayed through Iga Museum. I can't for the life of me understand why some can't add the truth and new findings through research to their knowledge base. It can literally only benefit your training. Keep up the good work Antony!
So for something to be legit a university or researchers have to approve it? I learned a family style of Arnis, does that make it less legitimate from other widely known and recognized styles of Arnis? Sorry to break it to you but not all martial arts have that kind of microscope on them because they were kept within a family or clan or what have you. Doesn’t make them not legit.
Decimation was a mass punishment for the Legions. Centuries were divided into a group of ten and made to draw lots and (this is where my memory gets dodgy) I believe the other nine were made to stone their man to death.
I think his knowledge of the Shinobi is stuck in time, the 1980s...I don't think he realizes that we know a lot more when it comes to Shinobinojutsu, these days. There were Shinobinosamurai that got payed for being spies, commandos, saboteurs, mercenary for hire he's stuck in the "ninja" were just these nice people defending their land against evil samurai, like native American stories, which made for great marketing in the 80s..
I mean not all Ninja were the same, they were assasin ninjas, spies, Kunoiuchi, The Hojo Clan and the Fuma Clan a lot of ninjas were from different parts of Japan and served different purposes it's just that Koga and Iga were the most famous, important and powerful ninja groups
Hi Anthony, You write so many books about samurais, ninjas, and even about Vikings.But the true shinobi is your dog please show him on video and some basic info about that pet of yours. Another great video as usual.
I actually have Stephen K Hayes books and followed his teachings. I also have your books especially the lost school of samurai and the Ninja scroll which I found interesting. I think both what is taught in the present whatever it be karate, judo, kendo, as well as what Stephen K Hayes and what you wrote about it is based on the fighting arts that the Samurai and Ninja of old had practiced. With some variations added to it including the Japanese Martial arts paths i mentioned above as well as Ninjutsu. To call it Ninjutsu is to pay homage to those who practice something similar a long time ago. As for me, I had learned Karate and jujitsu from my father whom was stationed in Japan after the second world war. And loved the Japanese culture and it's people. And past on his knowledge to me. I love the books of Stephen K. Hayes and I love your books as well. I hope someday you both will have a chat on RU-vid. To me Stephen K. Hayes is my Sensei even if it is through his books. 素晴らしい新年をお過ごしください
Iga is NOT the origin of Ninjutsu, you proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt in your book "In search of the Ninja" where warriors of Iga were demolished in a surprise attack on Kasagi castle by warriors from Bitchu province who were using what we would call Ninjutsu tactics, against which the Iga warriors were totally unprepared. This proves that Ninjutsu, and what might be called "Proto Ninjutsu" (tactics which we would call Ninjutsu like) did not originate in Iga at all. I will say however that it doesn't make sense that Ninjutsu would have died out- as I understand it, no other Koryu or art form died out in the Edo period. There are extant flower arrangement schools which have been preserved since the Edo period There are extant Noh theater schools which have been preserved since the Edo period. There are extant sword smithing schools which have been preserved since before then. There are dozens of extant Martial Arts schools which have been preserved since before then. There are extant Bunraku schools which have been preserved since the Edo period. And many, many, many more. While specific schools do and have died out (Like Natori Ryu), I haven't heard of the extinction of an entire art form. If there is one thing on the planet that Japan does better than everyone else, it is the successful preservation of their various arts, and there is no reason to believe that Ninjutsu would be any different in terms of preservation and continuation.
It honestly makes more sense that the best would be from a certain area, specifically iga. I mean here in the states, many soldiers are from Texas. Us Texans live and breath guns and other activities that are very much what the army and marines are looking for. It's true of many people in the south. As a song goes, we love to fight, kiss our rebel ass. I'd imagine it's similar in mideval well, anywhere.
1.) Where did ninjutsu originate? Not definitively known. 2.) Not all ninja came from Iga and Koka, the Iga/Koka mono were just really good at ninjutsu.
But just how many historical sources we have before the Nobunaga that mention ninjas in Iga? looks to me there is a level of propaganda here and that a myth of the mystical warriors with long traditions was created to explain how such little number of people could give Nobunaga such a hard time.
@@AntonyCummins The Ikko Ikki Monks were much more problematic for Nobunaga than the Jizamurai of Iga. I think it took 10 years for Nobunaga to pacify the Ikko Ikki, whereas he demolished Iga in less than a year.
