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Answer / Comment to Rick Beato: Please stop ignoring KISS 

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A fan's case for not longer ignoring KISS in best-of lists, top-x aspects of music and rock history. KISS is a serious band with great talent and a lot of substance. Please wake up and see it.

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@MaverickGrabber71
@MaverickGrabber71 4 года назад
I was wondering today if he had ever made any mentions of KISS, so I did a search and found this video. Nicely done.
@darielalle7144
@darielalle7144 3 года назад
Same here.
@yanikkunitsin1466
@yanikkunitsin1466 3 года назад
Yeap.
@RockFan98
@RockFan98 2 года назад
The one time he did is in top 20 rock anthems that had Rock And Roll All Nite.
@RockFan98
@RockFan98 2 года назад
That being said. I was quite furious when he didn’t put Rock And Roll All Nite in the top 20 greatest drum intros. That is instantly recognizable even more then some of the other picks on that list IMO
@thegolgatha5337
@thegolgatha5337 2 года назад
So did I !!!
@julianbustamante6643
@julianbustamante6643 4 года назад
I totally agree with you
@joshua.snyder
@joshua.snyder 2 года назад
Marketing, trinkets and makeup. Cannot overlook them enough.
@johnmastrogiovanni527
@johnmastrogiovanni527 4 года назад
Thank you for including KISS in your suggestions to Rick Beato... I really like him... But not to have KISS is like not having Ringo Starr in the Beatles.
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 4 года назад
Excellent comparison. Maybe send Rick this link. I already have.
@TheJimbo1791
@TheJimbo1791 16 дней назад
Actually, I don´t like Kiss at all myself, BUT SAYING THAT I would love to hear what Rick Beato has to say about them! So, good point. You can hate them but you cannot really ignore them?
@OneOfTheRobs
@OneOfTheRobs 8 месяцев назад
Come on man.. Asking Rick why he doesn't do a talk on Kiss songs ?! Maybe you can ask Nikki Tutorials to talk about the KISS make-up 😅 I'am a huge Kiss Fan. I joined the KISS-ARMY several years too. But thats not for Rick. The music is WAY to predictable.
@sindriblue
@sindriblue 2 года назад
Has anyone really taken there time and listened to the solos in Firehouse? That shit riiiips!!!
@prokopiskranidiotis1951
@prokopiskranidiotis1951 4 года назад
Ι Τotally agree with you.I think though there are better solos,instaed of the "Dark Light"solo...I would say the solos to " Shock Me"&"Calling Dr.Love, are far more Superior From Ace..then ther is "A Million To One" fron Vinnie Vincent,"King of the Mountain fro Bruce Kulick"."I Still Love You" from Robben Ford.Superior Vocals than I'll Fight Hell To Hold you are on "I Stiii Love You"&"A Million To One" Obviously Rick does not like KISS ...and that's ok..But I would love to Hear him analyze KISS!!!
@paulwalrond8836
@paulwalrond8836 4 года назад
Alex i couldn't thank you enough for bringing this to light.
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 4 года назад
Yeah. Let's all tell him about it.
@paulwalrond8836
@paulwalrond8836 4 года назад
We might have to surround his studio like the kiss army did the radio station when they refused to play kiss.
@hypermac77
@hypermac77 3 года назад
Thank you Sir. This is the reason why I have mixed feelings about Rick Beato's professionalism. How the f**k can KISS be totally ignored... baffling.
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 3 года назад
Yes, weird...
@hypermac77
@hypermac77 3 года назад
@MrBrenman Who the hell is Stan? You mean Stanley Eisen aka Paul Stanley, one of rocks greatest voices ever. Why isn't he ever mentioned? The closest thing so far is when he had Chris Jericho on, and Jericho mentions a conversation he had with Gene Simmons, and Beato chuckles at the mention.
@purplebondsaiyan2987
@purplebondsaiyan2987 3 года назад
@@amsalespush isn't Kiss are Blockers? Rick Wants to do it But if Bands like Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Queen (Etc.) Are Blockers and takes out his Videos why Can't those Bands Quit Taking Money On Videos That are Fair Use? (Fair Use Mind You) I Totally Agree with You But I'm Certain that Rick Wants to do a What Makes This Song Great On Kiss but aren't they're Blockers? I Just Don't Understand!!!
@purplebondsaiyan2987
@purplebondsaiyan2987 3 года назад
Guys Rick Had Rock and Roll All Nite number #15 as His Top 20 Rock Anthems of All Time He Did Mentioned KISS in there!!!
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 3 года назад
@@purplebondsaiyan2987 Hm, interesting. I do not know this for sure. But there are dozens of cover bands and all sorts of KISS podcasts, lots of guys doing Ace solos etc. And they appear to have no problem.
@gnbgffgcd3902
@gnbgffgcd3902 4 года назад
Wow. Well said!! I can’t stand when people say that KISS is just pyro and makeup.
@davidtassy9901
@davidtassy9901 Год назад
I like kiss but I’m sorry kiss really isn’t that good. They are a great example of power through fandom but on a technical side their songs are very elementary when it comes to writing. Only aces solos and a few odd jazz drumming things from Peter stand out .
@amsalespush
@amsalespush Год назад
Well, that's your opinion, great. I have a very different perception of the musical quality. For me, the songwriting is immensele underrated. I am curious: Did you actually listen to my examples? As Michael Brandvold says, if you don't like KISS, you're not listening to KISS.
@philhogan3668
@philhogan3668 4 года назад
Brilliant!! Thank you for calling Rick out. Love Rick Beato, but wish he would acknowledge my favorite band of all time.
@chriszollner6593
@chriszollner6593 2 года назад
I couldn't have said it better.
@jhay3966
@jhay3966 3 года назад
I think that Ace's best solos are found in the older albums, like 100,000 years or Let me go Rock n' Roll and I think that Kiss' best intros are Black Diamond(live versions) or Rock Bottom if you're looking for meaningful lyrics, look no further than The Elder if you're looking for classic rock, the earlier albums(KISS Alive, Hotter than Hell, Rock and Roll Over, Dressed to Kill, Love Gun, and Destroyer has that covered) if you're into Disco and ballads, Dynasty and Unmasked has some of those if you're into hard rock, the albums during Kulick/Carr and Vincent/Carr have heavier songs
@leeturiano4419
@leeturiano4419 2 года назад
I wish Rick would at least acknowledge their work on the Unplugged session. The musicianship was excellent right there
@damonanderson8500
@damonanderson8500 4 года назад
I agree, don’t know why Rick ignores my favorite childhood band
@TomTobin67
@TomTobin67 Год назад
I know kiss very well. I don't know who rick beetoff is.
@amsalespush
@amsalespush Год назад
Rick Beato is a quite respectable producer and musician. He just has a little blind spot here.
@planetcool2240
@planetcool2240 3 года назад
Rick is not the only one who ignores the whole side of Kiss that pertains to musicianship and songwriting. It is weird that no one talks about it that much. All members of now and then from Kiss were really good as musicians and songwriters. If you play music and tried to learn songs from Kiss from all stages of their career, you know there is a cleverness and absolutely genius in the artistic side of things that's there. Peter Criss had unique drum patterns that worked so well with the guys. Eric Carr was a beast on the drums and created amazing fills and patterns that made the Creatures Album famous. As a fan of Kiss, I couldn't care less if someone is praising them or not. I as a fan and musician know that already and its kind of a well kept secret right! and yea one more thing....Rock isn't dead... sorry Gene...love your bass playing and songwriting but your dead wrong on that one.
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 3 года назад
Yes, cleverness there is. The ultimate proof for the skill of all band members were the solo albums in 1978.
@barrycrawford3495
@barrycrawford3495 3 года назад
Radioactive is one of my all time favorites. it features extreme qualities of classical strings, opera, and the intro/1st verse transition is hands down awesome!! Great video. Stop the rain.... thought I was the world's only kiss fan who appreciated this. I expect to see more KISS based vids. Great job!
@vancelray
@vancelray 2 года назад
Yeah, Rick totally ignores one of the best sounding and most popular band of all time - KISS. Why? Only Rick knows.
@stevecoconis2076
@stevecoconis2076 3 года назад
Alex I can see you’ve gone through the Kiss discography by picking out Ace Frehley’s Fractured Mirror. I’ve played this as well as the intro to Rock Bottom. Both are excellent examples of Ace’s melodic playing.
@rickthendersonjr
@rickthendersonjr 2 года назад
What have they done to deserve inclusion? Ace's input is the lone exception, and agree, but he has a genius level IQ, got bored, got into drugs to cope, stopped developing his craft as a result, Gene and Paul couldn't put up with it due to trying to run a "business" rather than a band (don't blame them), drove him away, and the rest is Kisstory. Honorable mention for Black Diamond being included, but let's see if Rick ever bites on Kiss other than that.
@sherrywhitmore1167
@sherrywhitmore1167 2 года назад
Love gun is Ace's best solo
@GalvinTaylorRai
@GalvinTaylorRai 3 месяца назад
Yes i totally agree with you because they were huge back in the 70s and early 80s along with ky favourite band van halen in the 80s so yeah i totally agree with you
@shamusokingsley2412
@shamusokingsley2412 Год назад
Well done, you are right on. I think RB is purposely ignoring them because they are not considered a technically good band. Whether he cares to admit it or not, KISS is one of the biggest, most bombastic, and most popular rock bands of all time and has instantly recognizeable music. Rock on KISS, however I still think Peter Criss had a much better voice than Gene and should have been allowed to sing more songs.
@samuraidarryl
@samuraidarryl 4 месяца назад
I’ve always thought that he has certain artists that he prefers and always thought KISS was one he didn’t like or never delved into. Not unlike so many ppl that are ignorant of their music becase they had a dislike developed thru perception. Great underrated band. Very underrated musicians. Very underrated creativity that resulted is some awesome music. Thanks for this vid. Btw Paul’s voice is definitely amazing and his singing of I Still Love You on MTV Unplugged is astounding
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 4 месяца назад
Yes, I Still Love You is another amazing performance, live and in the studio.
@stevecoconis2076
@stevecoconis2076 3 года назад
Rock and Roll Hell was originally written by Jim Vallance for BTO. The song was reworked with Bryan Adam and Gene Simmons adding new elements to the song. The Kiss version is one hell of a song. Pardon the pun!
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 3 года назад
Yes, it is.
@NotMyGuns
@NotMyGuns 3 года назад
No other band has influenced more people to play air guitar and pretend THEY are the rock stars. The real critics have already spoken.
@zennomad258
@zennomad258 7 месяцев назад
The only person Rick Beato could interview is a fan such as yourself. Paul wouldn’t do it, Gene is too big for his boots, Ace would only talk about himself, Peter is in retirement so if they were going to cover all eras of Kiss, that’s not really gonna work out. I understand your sentiment though, and I agree with some of your choices. Gene is an underrated bass player. He is melodic player same as Ace was melodic. There’s plenty of guitar solos that Ace did that he would have to interview them separately. That would be a real treat.
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for your comment. Yet I think, Paul might do it.
@cameronburroughs9537
@cameronburroughs9537 5 месяцев назад
Its probably because Kiss is a "blocker" band. So if he publishes a video mentioning kiss the video will get taken down. Kiss is not the only band he doesn't mention
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 5 месяцев назад
Interesting. Yet there are hundreds of other people comemnting on KISS where the videos are still on.
@saulrabiela4862
@saulrabiela4862 Год назад
Hello from México City
@amsalespush
@amsalespush Год назад
Hello
@marslennon1
@marslennon1 Год назад
Hey Braindeadidiot.. Naked City great bass line 💪 Alive great drumsolo, Alive2 great guitarsolo, So many great Leadvocal songs, all instantly recognizable 🎸 👊
@amsalespush
@amsalespush Год назад
Thank you so much.
@Hejirah
@Hejirah 2 года назад
so why doesn't he mention or do Kiss videos? They have so many great songs..
@TheJbhmetal
@TheJbhmetal 10 месяцев назад
That's because Kiss is the most overrated band of all time. For a band that gets put on a super, high pedestal, most of their music is underwhelming. A few good songs here and there, but most of their music is disappointing. Paul's voice is silly and made for disco. Gene sounds like a cartoon character. A lot of their music is as goofy and cringeworthy as you talking with your German accent and dental appliance.
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 10 месяцев назад
Senk yu for commenting on ze aksent and ze dental appliance, votever sat is. I vill prectis.
@damon1000
@damon1000 9 месяцев назад
Why then am I always singing KISS song to myself throughout the day? They are catchy and memorable
@TheJbhmetal
@TheJbhmetal 9 месяцев назад
@@damon1000 1. A few good songs (I will admit) 2. You're part of the herd
@MrRumorg
@MrRumorg 2 года назад
Excellent analysis with many valid points. Well done!
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 2 года назад
Thanks. Your name tells me that you are a fan of either Iron Maiden oder Edgar Allan Poe ?
@KAFKUBA
@KAFKUBA 3 года назад
You're talking about they're lame years...now it's getting good!
@Jeanolavo
@Jeanolavo 3 года назад
His video on top 20 rock anthems had Rock and Roll all Nite
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 3 года назад
Thanks. I checked it out. Cool.
@erikroman4430
@erikroman4430 3 года назад
He doesn't include Kiss because they were FAR better at marketing than actual musicianship.
@mr.brenman2132
@mr.brenman2132 10 месяцев назад
KISS is one of the most influential bands off all time. Plenty of classic tunes. You are biased.
@jacintofragoso1211
@jacintofragoso1211 10 месяцев назад
They may be influenced but they're not musicians they didn't write good music like UFO
@mooch514
@mooch514 9 месяцев назад
Well done
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 9 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@z955st
@z955st Год назад
Couldn't agree more. Great and well done vídeo! Thanks
@KAFKUBA
@KAFKUBA 3 года назад
The Peter criss Paul Stanley was incredible
@jamesdean3548
@jamesdean3548 Год назад
I just finished watching 5 Beato videos and ended up here, like others, wondering if Rick has ever mentioned KISS once. I enjoyed your best of selections and loved the many Creatures references and completely agree with the Dark Light solo. Rick Beato may ignore KISS for not being as technically brilliant as Rush, YES, Beatles, Boston and so on... but he can't deny the influence KISS has had on so many bands and the millions of fans since the 70's until now.
@amsalespush
@amsalespush Год назад
Actually, Rick mentioned KISS at least once when he talked about the great rock hymns, he included "Rock and Roll all Nite".
@jamesdean3548
@jamesdean3548 Год назад
@@amsalespush thanks, at least there was one mention.
@rumplstilskin2000
@rumplstilskin2000 3 года назад
yeah, Kiss sucks so.......
@hannesluettringhaus1615
@hannesluettringhaus1615 3 года назад
Kiss is so preadolescent. I listened to them in primary school, but have a hard time to endure their music today. It’s pop music with an overdone rock attitude. I find them boring and sort of embarrassing. Glad Rick Beato doesn’t undermine his own class by endorsing them.
@ForzaChi
@ForzaChi 4 года назад
Rick doesn’t include KISS because they are terrible. Nothing more than a gimmick band. Without the makeup and costumes they would still be playing in a garage. Paul Stanley’s voice is decent. Gene Simmons has one of the worst voices of any famous rock band in history. Finally, to say that poor excuse for a solo by Ace Frehly was the greatest of all time is so ridiculous that I actually think you might be trolling everyone. Either way thanks for sharing the vid. Cheers
@amsalespush
@amsalespush 4 года назад
Thanks for your opinion.
@jhay3966
@jhay3966 3 года назад
not being a close-minded jackass, but I'm just going to ask, have you given them a chance? also, yeah they have gimmicks, but atleast give them kudos for their showmanship, it's hard as fuck to be moving around and playing, if you want to hear some of their greatest song, try listening to some of their late 80s songs(if you don't want to, it's okay, all I'm asking is to give them a chance(if you haven't already) because some of their songs are really cool)
@greggyoshimoto8703
@greggyoshimoto8703 3 года назад
if it were just costumes and makeup, why aren't there S-load more wannabees looking to make a buck utilizing the same formula. And achieving similar success.
@ForzaChi
@ForzaChi 3 года назад
​@@greggyoshimoto8703 I respectfully disagree. There are a S-Load of Artists who have achieved similar success using costumes and makeup. In fact, the trend spans across almost every genre from classic rock to underground hip/hop to modern pop music. Some examples: Alice Cooper, Gwar, King Diamond (Who Gene Simmons himself accused of copying them), Twisted Sister, Mötley Crüe, Poison, Devo, Sia, Daft Punk, DeadMau5, Marshmellow, and MF Doom (RIP).... I think its kind of funny that most "successful" pop artists are promulgated by image and gimmicks rather than musical integrity and work. As opposed to say someone like MF DOOM whom many people didn't even learn of until his passing, yet had a huge underground following based on his lyrical skill and musical talent. That said, imagery is absolutely a form of artistic expression and so I am not knocking any of those artists good or bad for utilizing it. Every band has a certain look, whether intended or not. I believe these things often enhance the musical experience as well but music must come first. My point is simply that KISS, particularly Gene Simmons, is more of a businessman than a musician and good for him. They have achieved great success because of it. Nonetheless, the bottom line is that KISS would not have achieved that success on the strength of their musical/songwriting abilities alone. It takes both to be great in my book and the music is always the top priority. The KISS logo is cool and there are some decent songs that rock and roll but overall I am still not boarding the KISS bandwagon anytime soon. This is just my personal subjective opinion. I am really not trying to offend anyone on here, just enjoy a good music debate! Cheers!
@ForzaChi
@ForzaChi 3 года назад
@@jhay3966 I give kudos for showmanship and I have explored many of their albums, specifically Hot In Shade per your late-80s suggestion. Still not my cup of tea but I can understand why some would like the later work. After going through most of their catalog I think the early stuff, "KISS" Alive, and DESTROYER appeal to me the most. That said, with exception to a couple hit songs, I still don't think they come close to their musical counterparts of the mid-70s but there are some cool songs!
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